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The left will find out when trump wins in the landslide coming in November...they only pretend to be ‘winning’.
He lost the popular vote his first time, and barely won the electoral college. His margin was less than 100k votes. Additionally over half of the country disapproves of the job he is doing, over forty percent strongly disapprove. Given all of this what makes you think he has a snowball's chance in hell of a landslide?
 

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He lost the popular vote his first time, and barely won the electoral college. His margin was less than 100k votes. Additionally over half of the country disapproves of the job he is doing, over forty percent strongly disapprove. Given all of this what makes you think he has a snowball's chance in hell of a landslide?
Over forty percent is over half the country? Hmmm..

But he did win..so what does it matter how close it was? We’ve now got 3.5 years to see what trump accomplished. And we see what the dems are capable of doing too..tearing down the cities to tear down a leader they hate in the insane idea that that wins them the White House. He wins in a landslide..people don’t like the riots or that elected officials won’t stop it.
 
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VC owns this platform. It's his, or her, right to remove anything from it they choose to. It won't hurt my feelings, and I won't be screaming censorship because I actually understand what free speech is.
you missed the point entirely. i wasnt talking about platform vs. publisher. i was talking about how utterly silly cancel culture and censorship is when someone disagrees with someone else. the banning of alternative viewpoints and unpopular ideas is wholeheartedly embraced by the progressive leftists. anyone supporting the censorship of unpopular opinions does not know the first thing about freedom of speech.

That's why the "canceling" works.
of course canceling works... instead of debating, leftists resort to cancel culture. this is a tactic for those who cannot properly defend their viewpoints and arguments in open debate.
 

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Conservatives always want a "marketplace of ideas" until their ideas are rejected, then they scream censorship. I'm sorry, not really, that your ideas are fading from the mainstream, but there is no conspiracy. people hear your ideas, and are simply rejecting them.
It goes both ways. Conservatives are whiny snowflakes like the far left. They are both the face/mouth of the current media/cultural trends. As a result normal people who try to enjoy life suffer cause they get pulled into the political fiasco. The reason why I always have that middle approach around this board. I cannot stand those far right q-anon hicks and I cannot stand the far left. These two groups are made for each other
 
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QUOTE="Lisa, post: 343834, member: 28"]
most Americans don’t like totalitarianism or violence.
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That's why they are going to vote for Trump, right? The dude, who at 2016 campaign rallies, told people they'd pay their legal bills if they dealt with people protesting him... And even more recently, sent soldiers in unmarked uniforms to arrest people who aren't even taking part of riots, who refuse to identify themselves when making arrests. 'cause they hate totalitarianism and violence.
 

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you missed the point entirely. i wasnt talking about platform vs. publisher. i was talking about how utterly silly cancel culture and censorship is when someone disagrees with someone else. the banning of alternative viewpoints and unpopular ideas is wholeheartedly embraced by the progressive leftists. anyone supporting the censorship of unpopular opinions does not know the first thing about freedom of speech.
You're the one missing the point. We've heard your ideas. We've heard them a thousand times before, and debunked them just as many. the problem is that you don't care and you still want to enact or spread debunked unpopular ideas. Logical debates don't work with Trump supporters, if they did you wouldn't be Trump supporters. Since you cannot be argued with silencing you is the next best thing.

Now repeat after me: Freedom of speech only protects people form government censorship. It does not protect me form the consequences of stupid and unpopular ideas.

A marketplace of ideas isn't kind to bad ideas.
 

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They went on a right wing social media purge. And then they went on a left wing social media purge. Seems to me they are purging in equal amounts on the political spectrum. What I haven’t heard is a single free speech complaint coming from the usual suspects about the left wing social media purge that just occurred. So maybe we can stop pretending it’s actually about free speech?

I did state at the time I thought it was wrong to purge right wing voices. And that this was coming next. I get an A+ for consistency.

cancel culture is stupid. But boycotting people you don’t agree with is the same thing with the same goal in mind. If you aren’t getting the same results then see the poster above mes explanation as to why. But don’t pretend it is not the same motivation.
 

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Over forty percent is over half the country? Hmmm..
52% of Americans disapprove of Trump. 43% Strongly disapprove of Trump. Are you still following me, or is this to complicated?
ut he did win..so what does it matter how close it was? We’ve now got 3.5 years to see what trump accomplished. And we see what the dems are capable of doing too..tearing down the cities to tear down a leader they hate in the insane idea that that wins them the White House. He wins in a landslide..people don’t like the riots or that elected officials won’t stop it.
And what are those accomplishments exactly? Some tax cuts for the rich. A massive expansion of the budget defecate (remember when republicans cared about fiscal responsibility?) The highest unemployment since the great depression. Which of those accomplishments are supposed to persuade people vote for him?

This is also why the fact that the last election was incredibly close matters. He hasn't done anything to expand his appeal beyond those who already voted for him, and that is an ever shrinking demographic group. This is why I'm so confused that you think he will win in a landslide. Also your whole "people don't like the riots" idea ignores the basic fact that the people ARE the riots. That's how angry people are at the direction the country is going, and the person leading it. The people are rioting.
 

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Oh, no! How can I ever enjoy playing Scrabble again, when I can't use the words like "cum", "honky", and "shemale". The official Scrabble tournament organizers
youre right meatus! i ought to thank scrabble for setting me straight. now that theyve removed these horrible words, the thoughts and feelings associated with them can longer exist!
 

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You're the one missing the point. We've heard your ideas. We've heard them a thousand times before, and debunked them just as many. the problem is that you don't care and you still want to enact or spread debunked unpopular ideas. Logical debates don't work with Trump supporters, if they did you wouldn't be Trump supporters. Since you cannot be argued with silencing you is the next best thing.
youve debunked nothing when it comes to censorship and free speech. im actually glad you respond to what i write so that i can illustrate how ludicrous your argument FOR censorship is. you can see how the chinese are enjoying it over there.
and what does censorship have to do with trump? thats part of your problem-- you think this is a left- right thing. its freedom of speech thing. if someone was being censored for ANY kind of unpopular speech, id be backing them. antifa and NAMBLA and BLM included, no matter how revolting their ideas are.

Now repeat after me: Freedom of speech only protects people form government censorship. It does not protect me form the consequences of stupid and unpopular ideas.
so... since someone has a problem with what i have to say, theyll resort to violence because they cannot debate it? so typical. this is exactly why the comments sections are closed on so many youtube channels-- your ideas cannot hold up to open debate (same with 9/11).
id like to remind progressive leftists that the consequences of attacking those whose ideas may be unpopular will force those others to defend themselves, if necessary, with lethal force.
 

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What I haven’t heard is a single free speech complaint coming from the usual suspects about the left wing social media purge that just occurred. So maybe we can stop pretending it’s actually about free speech?
tell me where, say, BLM is being censored or blocked. i can include a whole forums worth of evidence showing you where "all lives matter" is unacceptable.
anyway, if you are so in tune with rife leftist censorship, why havent you posted all of these examples?

cancel culture is stupid. But boycotting people you don’t agree with is the same thing with the same goal in mind. If you aren’t getting the same results then see the poster above mes explanation as to why. But don’t pretend it is not the same motivation.
completely different. cancel culture wants the individual fired (essentially a punishment) for wrongthink. boycotting simply lets the company continue without the business of the individual(s). let games magazine sell to woke leftists. i dont want this guy to be fired nor do i ask for an apology, like the leftists do. they simply wont get another dime from me. i will find another magazine that will simply do what theyre good at: provide puzzles and games with no political bent. not too much to ask.
 

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tell me where, say, BLM is being censored or blocked. i can include a whole forums worth of evidence showing you where "all lives matter" is unacceptable.
anyway, if you are so in tune with rife leftist censorship, why havent you posted all of these examples?


completely different. cancel culture wants the individual fired (essentially a punishment) for wrongthink. boycotting simply lets the company continue without the business of the individual(s). let games magazine sell to woke leftists. i dont want this guy to be fired nor do i ask for an apology, like the leftists do. they simply wont get another dime from me. i will find another magazine that will simply do what theyre good at: provide puzzles and games with no political bent. not too much to ask.
Do you only pay attention to right wing news?


Any censorship whatsoever should be an issue for a free speech guy. It was an issue for me when social media started banning right wing outlets. You can look back at my comments from the time to confirm this. It seems like everyone else’s principles die across the partisan divide:rolleyes:

and no, sorry that’s a bunch of horseshit and
People don’t boycott something unless they have a goal bigger then their own personal non involvement. That’s inherent in the definition of boycott.


If your only motivation was personal you wouldn’t call it a boycott or make any public statements regarding it. You just wouldn’t fuck with it. There’s a million things I don’t fuck with because I don’t like or agree with them. I don’t call that a boycott. No one in their right mind would. Two things I boycott and I sincerely hope they catch on and result in changes: voting and self checkout lines.
 

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That's why they are going to vote for Trump, right? The dude, who at 2016 campaign rallies, told people they'd pay their legal bills if they dealt with people protesting him... And even more recently, sent soldiers in unmarked uniforms to arrest people who aren't even taking part of riots, who refuse to identify themselves when making arrests. 'cause they hate totalitarianism and violence.
They voted for him to make America great again..and he did before the dems wrecked it with their fake virus..and he said he knew how to do it again so..he will win in a landslide..the dems know it. That’s why they keep the riots going..trying to scare and intimidate Americans into voting their dementia patient. Stupid campaign strategy....who says tptb are smart? :rolleyes: Lol!
 

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52% of Americans disapprove of Trump. 43% Strongly disapprove of Trump. Are you still following me, or is this to complicated?

And what are those accomplishments exactly? Some tax cuts for the rich. A massive expansion of the budget defecate (remember when republicans cared about fiscal responsibility?) The highest unemployment since the great depression. Which of those accomplishments are supposed to persuade people vote for him?

This is also why the fact that the last election was incredibly close matters. He hasn't done anything to expand his appeal beyond those who already voted for him, and that is an ever shrinking demographic group. This is why I'm so confused that you think he will win in a landslide. Also your whole "people don't like the riots" idea ignores the basic fact that the people ARE the riots. That's how angry people are at the direction the country is going, and the person leading it. The people are rioting.
51% approve of trump..


Highest unemployment since the Great Depression isn’t bad is it? That alone gets so many votes. He’s proved he wanted to make America great again by...read carefully...making America great again!

Students are the people in the riots..and some adults who should know better but it’s mostly brainwashed students. Average Americans are not in that and don’t support that.
 

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youve debunked nothing when it comes to censorship and free speech. im actually glad you respond to what i write so that i can illustrate how ludicrous your argument FOR censorship is.
Again, you've missed the point. I'm not arguing for censorship, I'm saying that you are a chicken little screaming censorship when you are not in fact being censored. You put forward your ideas and they are rejected. You are being told you are wrong and asked to be quiet now so that the adults can talk.
so... since someone has a problem with what i have to say, theyll resort to violence because they cannot debate it?
No one is resorting to violence. Blocking a youtube channel isn't violence
id like to remind progressive leftists that the consequences of attacking those whose ideas may be unpopular will force those others to defend themselves, if necessary, with lethal force.
Chill the fuck out keyboard cowboy. No one is coming for you.
 

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51% approve of trump..
Rasmussen always has a house effect in favor of trump. If you average the polls he's at 54% disapprove, 41% approve.
Highest unemployment since the Great Depression isn’t bad is it?
Are you retarded? I'm honestly asking, do you not know what unemployment is? A big number, the highest number since the great depression, of people who want to work cannot find a job. That is in fact a bad thing.
 

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Rasmussen always has a house effect in favor of trump. If you average the polls he's at 54% disapprove, 41% approve.

Are you retarded? I'm honestly asking, do you not know what unemployment is? A big number, the highest number since the great depression, of people who want to work cannot find a job. That is in fact a bad thing.
I heard someone say that after awhile the pollsters have to start being accurate because it’s their reputation on the line. No one believes the biden is winning polls anyway..you can’t win an election from the basement.

Lol...from what I know it’s the opposite. Most people who wanted a job had one...that’s how good trump is! I think the economy will rebound once trump wins and we will again have record unemployment...means most people will be employed again.

I sure hope he can fix the restaurant industry though..
 
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It’s the leftist ideas that are indefensible..which is why they think they need a virus and constant riots to try to win an election..which will fail because most Americans don’t like totalitarianism or violence. The left will find out when trump wins in the landslide coming in November...they only pretend to be ‘winning’.
definitely the majority are going conservative.. the communistic, crazy,, child p***philia satan loving, country destroying, left are loosing their base and are running scared... obviously...those who were leaning left are done. Sick of watching the destruction and perversion being crammed down their families throats. Yeah the top of the pyramid has money. But all that baby eating sick twisted destructive hate stuff getting old for the people who just want to keep their kids safe. The left can't promise to keep the kids safe they are too busy stealing them.People want their kids to have happy normal lives not crazy sick twisted new normal bs.They definitely overplayed their hand and they know it...they are desperate..they know their time is short.Found this scripture on FB and thought it pretty much sums it up Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise mans heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fools heart at his LEFT.
 
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youre right meatus! i ought to thank scrabble for setting me straight. now that theyve removed these horrible words, the thoughts and feelings associated with them can longer exist!
From official tournaments. Official tournaments always have rules, beyond basic rules of the game. If you want to use cum and shemale in your home games, no one is going to stop you... There's a lot of things to be concerned about, especially as far as censorship goes... The Scrabble thing is entirely a non-issue though.

They voted for him to make America great again..and he did before the dems wrecked it with their fake virus..and he said he knew how to do it again so..he will win in a landslide..the dems know it. That’s why they keep the riots going..trying to scare and intimidate Americans into voting their dementia patient. Stupid campaign strategy....who says tptb are smart? :rolleyes: Lol!
Trump lost the popular vote... Against Hillary fucking Clinton. Consider that for a moment... Donald Trump lost the popular vote to a woman who is one of the most hated people in American politics. He's not terribly popular among independent voters, either... Who make up the vast majority of voters in American politics.

That's not to say he can't win 2020... But it was never going to be a landslide, considering he's been sitting in somewhere in the 40's for his approval rating since he got elected. That's not exactly popular.
 

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From official tournaments. Official tournaments always have rules, beyond basic rules of the game. If you want to use cum and shemale in your home games, no one is going to stop you... There's a lot of things to be concerned about, especially as far as censorship goes... The Scrabble thing is entirely a non-issue though.



Trump lost the popular vote... Against Hillary fucking Clinton. Consider that for a moment... Donald Trump lost the popular vote to a woman who is one of the most hated people in American politics. He's not terribly popular among independent voters, either... Who make up the vast majority of voters in American politics.

That's not to say he can't win 2020... But it was never going to be a landslide, considering he's been sitting in somewhere in the 40's for his approval rating since he got elected. That's not exactly popular.
Trump won the election and he’s gonna win the next one too. He’s got to 51% and I bet it’s even more than that..
 
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