BTS/KPOP Shipper Mentality

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You get why the companies have same sex ships? Why do the companies do it?
It's easier to portray the idea that fans have a chance to be with their idol. Sasaengs say its easier seeing idols have the borderline same sex love ships because they feel they have a chance. While most fans are like they'd be happy if they found someone realistically most of the fans still want that special someone to be them.
 






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I’m really not sure what your post means. Where did I say that any of those things equalled masculinity?
The only thing I mentioned was how Yuta was a nice guy who seemed to care about gender equality issues. I didn’t say that contributed to his masculinity. Quite the opposite really. I meant that in spite of his masculinity it might show he has a softer side which explains why he is affectionate etc with Mark.
A definition of masculinity would probably include attributes which people think are typical of men - handsome, strong, intelligent, muscular, a sharp jaw line, dressed in a particular way etc, etc. Increasingly though, that definition is including men who are all of those things but also include men who aren’t afraid to be what they want to be - men who dress how they want to dress, who know how to show emotion, who can be very funny but very sensitive. There is so much more to masculinity than you appear to believe.
How you find none of NCT or any other Kpop males masculine is beyond me. in reality, there is no definition of masculinity.
I don’t know who you’re talking about when you said no one said anything sexual. Yuta? The other poster?
If the other poster didn’t mean anything sexual then she needs to think about she writes things. She talked about being touched by boys and it being wrong and she mentioned how people in Kpop had to pretend to be gay. If you mean Yuta, then please tell me where I said he said anything sexual?
That is the definition made by low value males so that low value women will accept most of the bs that men throw at us. It's simple, high value women view masculinity different from that definition you gave. VERY different. There is a definition of masculinity depending upon the groups. High value men and women vs low value men and women. I was talking about sad truth's overall comment she made.
 






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That is the definition made by low value males so that low value women will accept most of the bs that men throw at us. It's simple, high value women view masculinity different from that definition you gave. VERY different. There is a definition of masculinity depending upon the groups. High value men and women vs low value men and women. I was talking about sad truth's overall comment she made.
So I’m asking a genuine question. What type of a man do you think a high value woman wants. Although I’m thinking it’s kind of degrading to women and men to label them as high value and low value.
 






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So I’m asking a genuine question. What type of a man do you think a high value woman wants. Although I’m thinking it’s kind of degrading to women and men to label them as high value and low value.
Why is it degrading? It's just a fact - either you're high quality or not, poor or rich, beautiful or ugly (thinking everyone is beautiful in their own way is also low value thought)

A high value man is respectful, loyal and faithful(all which take time to show). A man or woman can act one way on camera but treat their spouse like trash behind the scenes. A man that shows his woman he can provide(a rich man can be low value), he pays for dates and a relatively higher proportion of expenses in the relationship(all low value men/women love the split everything 50/50 before marriage). A man that is confident, consistent and reliable(once again it's impossible to know unless you deal with them in a romantic type way one-on-one, away from managers, which idols cannot prove on camera).

A man that takes care of their body, face and physical appearance(once again idols have very little control over their overall image and managers approve outfits or not and even tell them what to wear. Entertainment companies can and do force idols to get plastic surgery or fillers all the time). Women who love "dad" bods or chunky dudes are low value women as well (I personally feel the same about men who like fat/chunky women but that's a debate in itself). They feel by going for the less traditionally attractive guy they can score a good guy or they feel a guy with a dad/chunky body is in their looks-match or a fetish - high value people don't fetishize. High value men care about their partner's happiness and sexual pleasure (most men don't care as they should, let's be honest). Sex is off the table until exclusivity is mutually agreed upon. Sure, you can sleep with a guy before then but the chances of him taking you serious are slim to none.

A high value man guards his mate; however, he will not be abusive and will wait on the woman, until she is sure that his offer of commitment is good. High value men will put in actual effort and compete, he also understands that a woman can entertain multiple suitors until commitment is established(because most high and low value men/women will generally have multiple suitors). He uses this opportunity to show her why he is the best (likewise for a high value woman). It generally takes a long time for a man to prove if he is masculine/a high value male. Simply based off this guideline most of the kpop idols cannot be "masculine". They're males yes, they dress nice yes, they're generally attractive but knowing how much companies and managers dictate their whole persona it's hard to say they're masculine or high value males.


Everything i said is not being incredibly picky but low value women and mothers have set the standards so low for a man that even most low value men aren't capable of even 1/2 of these requests.
 






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Why is it degrading? It's just a fact - either you're high quality or not, poor or rich, beautiful or ugly (thinking everyone is beautiful in their own way is also low value thought)

A high value man is respectful, loyal and faithful(all which take time to show). A man or woman can act one way on camera but treat their spouse like trash behind the scenes. A man that shows his woman he can provide(a rich man can be low value), he pays for dates and a relatively higher proportion of expenses in the relationship(all low value men/women love the split everything 50/50 before marriage). A man that is confident, consistent and reliable(once again it's impossible to know unless you deal with them in a romantic type way one-on-one, away from managers, which idols cannot prove on camera).

A man that takes care of their body, face and physical appearance(once again idols have very little control over their overall image and managers approve outfits or not and even tell them what to wear. Entertainment companies can and do force idols to get plastic surgery or fillers all the time). Women who love "dad" bods or chunky dudes are low value women as well (I personally feel the same about men who like fat/chunky women but that's a debate in itself). They feel by going for the less traditionally attractive guy they can score a good guy or they feel a guy with a dad/chunky body is in their looks-match or a fetish - high value people don't fetishize. High value men care about their partner's happiness and sexual pleasure (most men don't care as they should, let's be honest). Sex is off the table until exclusivity is mutually agreed upon. Sure, you can sleep with a guy before then but the chances of him taking you serious are slim to none.

A high value man guards his mate; however, he will not be abusive and will wait on the woman, until she is sure that his offer of commitment is good. High value men will put in actual effort and compete, he also understands that a woman can entertain multiple suitors until commitment is established(because most high and low value men/women will generally have multiple suitors). He uses this opportunity to show her why he is the best (likewise for a high value woman). It generally takes a long time for a man to prove if he is masculine/a high value male. Simply based off this guideline most of the kpop idols cannot be "masculine". They're males yes, they dress nice yes, they're generally attractive but knowing how much companies and managers dictate their whole persona it's hard to say they're masculine or high value males.


Everything i said is not being incredibly picky but low value women and mothers have set the standards so low for a man that even most low value men aren't capable of even 1/2 of these requests.
Just to be clear - when I offered a definition of masculinity in my post earlier of what people might think was masculine, I was doing so to show you that there is no actual definition of masculine. When I described Yuta as masculine I did do within what a traditional view of masculine might look like. Not knowing any of them in real life I can’t comment definitively on how masculine he is - not can you!
As regards your definition of high and low value men and women. If only life were that straightforward that everyone could be separated into two groups the way you try to. In real life, I’m guessing you will find that no one fits your definition of low value or high value in a perfect way. People are individuals. Who they are and what they are is influenced by so many different things. They don’t fit into the categories you want to put them in. Life just isn’t that simple.
I don’t assume that I know what any celebrity’s personality is, Kpop or otherwise. In fact, I don’t really assume to ever know anyone’s true personality. I have known my husband since I was 14 - although we were not a couple then. We have been married for almost 26 years. I probably know him better than he does himself but occasionally, he still does things I don’t expect him to do. Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest. Would he be your perfect husband? Probably not.
Everyone has different needs and desires. They are influenced by their experiences, their culture, their religious background etc, etc . What might be high value to me will not be to you. You can’t put people into boxes. People just are what they are and no one is perfect, all of the time. Perfect doesn’t exist. If you’re looking for it, you’re not going to find it.
 






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Just to be clear - when I offered a definition of masculinity in my post earlier of what people might think was masculine, I was doing so to show you that there is no actual definition of masculine. When I described Yuta as masculine I did do within what a traditional view of masculine might look like. Not knowing any of them in real life I can’t comment definitively on how masculine he is - not can you!
As regards your definition of high and low value men and women. If only life were that straightforward that everyone could be separated into two groups the way you try to. In real life, I’m guessing you will find that no one fits your definition of low value or high value in a perfect way. People are individuals. Who they are and what they are is influenced by so many different things. They don’t fit into the categories you want to put them in. Life just isn’t that simple.
I don’t assume that I know what any celebrity’s personality is, Kpop or otherwise. In fact, I don’t really assume to ever know anyone’s true personality. I have known my husband since I was 14 - although we were not a couple then. We have been married for almost 26 years. I probably know him better than he does himself but occasionally, he still does things I don’t expect him to do. Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest. Would he be your perfect husband? Probably not.
Everyone has different needs and desires. They are influenced by their experiences, their culture, their religious background etc, etc . What might be high value to me will not be to you. You can’t put people into boxes. People just are what they are and no one is perfect, all of the time. Perfect doesn’t exist. If you’re looking for it, you’re not going to find it.

First off Yuta still isn't traditionally masculine, he looks incredibly feminine half of the time or looks like a fuckboy which isn't masculine either. Most of his fans call him pretty or gorgeous or that he looks angelic which arent terms generally used to describe masculine men.

Second off traits/characteristics =/=! Personality, you can have a bad personality and still be high value, although its hard lol

After reading this, I honestly feel incredibly sad for your daughters. You're teaching them to be low value women and pickmeishas. Please have your daughters read feminine dating strategy, the rules there are golden and teaches women to truly love themselves and to have standards and not to take bs from men and other low value women although the women can be a little mean. You are a low value woman and married a low value man and are defending your choices by saying he's perfect whilst telling me perfection doesn't exist.

90% of my description of a high value man does not differ from culture to religion. Be respectful, faithful, and consistent (these are traits you're ok with a hvm not having to you? So he's still high value if he cheats on you, disrespects you constantly, ignores you?) YOU literally just said that, not me.

A high value male provides financially across most religions and cultures, in 95% that's a basic requirement to provide financially. So we learn that you feel a man with no means to provide financially, mentally or physically is still high value. Cool, a high value man to you doesn't have to care about your happiness or his appearance or health. Cool, you feel a high value man can abuse you mentally,physically or verbally? Sweet. A man can just not care to make sure you're sexually satisfied and he's still high value to you? yikes my dear, just yikes.

Do you see WHY i'm calling you low value? You're telling me these basic human traits that every man and woman should have are impossible to have and thus i'm expecting perfection? I can tell you didn't thoroughly comprehend what I wrote, you do that a lot and you become emotionally charged in most of your answers and just write whatever to shut people up or try to make them seem they're not normal albeit a lot of people here do the same so I can't blame you for that.


High value men and women exist all the time in daily life, if you have a friend or coworker that is cheating on their spouse - low value , a spouse that doesn't help raise the kids 50/50 = low value, doesn't at least try to actually help with cooking or cleaning or doesn't cook or clean = low value, secretly hides their money from a normal spouse = low value, doesn't respect their spouse = low value, constantly doing things knowing their spouse doesn't like it/want it/has a fear of it= low value, not willing to communicate issues to their spouse = low value, these are just a few examples of basic stuff a low value man would do and you're telling me you're totally fine with it. Disabled people are not an exemption either, my mom was paralyzed for 2 years and still tried to help my dad around the house.

You and I both know that women in oppressive cultures would love if their man didn't do most of what i pointed out as low value, you and I both know it. But if you had actually read and comprehended what I wrote you wouldn't have disagreed with what I said.


"Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest." You couldn't even describe what he does do that is high value, so 9 times out of 10 he has little to no high value traits. You couldn't even post well he doesn't do all of that but he does x,y,z for me and our family. The fact you cant even point out what he does for you guys is incredibly sad and shows what little standards you were taught by your mother/father. If I were in your position I could easily describe what high value traits my ex had/has.


"People just are what they are and no one is perfect, all of the time. Perfect doesn’t exist. If you’re looking for it, you’re not going to find it." But you said your husband is the perfect husband but then you also said he lacks at least half to most basic traits to be a high value male so how does that work? I know you're going to say something like i don't have to explain that to you, etc because all low value women are like broken records. I literally hear and read the same stuff you spew in different formats from friends in real life to women over the internet. It's incredibly depressing and you all deserve more than that but you're going to continue to disagree with me.

I agree no one is perfect, a one off of some low value traits will happen but if it's consistent or your spouse decides to not get help they're low value. I had my father and mother teach me what a high value male looks like and they still do till this day, I understand that most women don't have that type of role model in their life or they're just desperate for male attention but once you know better do better is my motto.
 






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Well, I'm not a Kpop fan by any means and I do not follow gossip or watch videos about them but to answer OP's earlier comments (not sure if someone has said this, I skipped through many comments), the reason they take certain videos down may be because it still feeds the minds of young fans. Think about it. Most fans are pre-teen to teenage girls. You remove a video of their favorite ship engaging in some act that fuels their fantasies, then it's all they talk about. Gossip and rumors abound. Why did they delete it? Do they not want us to know? But it's so obvious (insert ship here) are in love! You have group members that will address it (PR approved comments, of course. From what I do know, Kpop image is very controlled.) As someone mentioned in an earlier comment, these boys are supposed to be just the right amount of seductive (not too much, gotta keep it PG13 for the younger fans) but keep their innocence/naivety/chasteness. So they make coy comments like, "get that out of your imagination."

It's not too deep...it's just another way of adding fuel to the rumors which adds more publicity and fan service. It feeds the obsession of the fans.
 






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First off Yuta still isn't traditionally masculine, he looks incredibly feminine half of the time or looks like a fuckboy which isn't masculine either. Most of his fans call him pretty or gorgeous or that he looks angelic which arent terms generally used to describe masculine men.

Second off traits/characteristics =/=! Personality, you can have a bad personality and still be high value, although its hard lol

After reading this, I honestly feel incredibly sad for your daughters. You're teaching them to be low value women and pickmeishas. Please have your daughters read feminine dating strategy, the rules there are golden and teaches women to truly love themselves and to have standards and not to take bs from men and other low value women although the women can be a little mean. You are a low value woman and married a low value man and are defending your choices by saying he's perfect whilst telling me perfection doesn't exist.

90% of my description of a high value man does not differ from culture to religion. Be respectful, faithful, and consistent (these are traits you're ok with a hvm not having to you? So he's still high value if he cheats on you, disrespects you constantly, ignores you?) YOU literally just said that, not me.

A high value male provides financially across most religions and cultures, in 95% that's a basic requirement to provide financially. So we learn that you feel a man with no means to provide financially, mentally or physically is still high value. Cool, a high value man to you doesn't have to care about your happiness or his appearance or health. Cool, you feel a high value man can abuse you mentally,physically or verbally? Sweet. A man can just not care to make sure you're sexually satisfied and he's still high value to you? yikes my dear, just yikes.

Do you see WHY i'm calling you low value? You're telling me these basic human traits that every man and woman should have are impossible to have and thus i'm expecting perfection? I can tell you didn't thoroughly comprehend what I wrote, you do that a lot and you become emotionally charged in most of your answers and just write whatever to shut people up or try to make them seem they're not normal albeit a lot of people here do the same so I can't blame you for that.


High value men and women exist all the time in daily life, if you have a friend or coworker that is cheating on their spouse - low value , a spouse that doesn't help raise the kids 50/50 = low value, doesn't at least try to actually help with cooking or cleaning or doesn't cook or clean = low value, secretly hides their money from a normal spouse = low value, doesn't respect their spouse = low value, constantly doing things knowing their spouse doesn't like it/want it/has a fear of it= low value, not willing to communicate issues to their spouse = low value, these are just a few examples of basic stuff a low value man would do and you're telling me you're totally fine with it. Disabled people are not an exemption either, my mom was paralyzed for 2 years and still tried to help my dad around the house.

You and I both know that women in oppressive cultures would love if their man didn't do most of what i pointed out as low value, you and I both know it. But if you had actually read and comprehended what I wrote you wouldn't have disagreed with what I said.


"Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest." You couldn't even describe what he does do that is high value, so 9 times out of 10 he has little to no high value traits. You couldn't even post well he doesn't do all of that but he does x,y,z for me and our family. The fact you cant even point out what he does for you guys is incredibly sad and shows what little standards you were taught by your mother/father. If I were in your position I could easily describe what high value traits my ex had/has.


"People just are what they are and no one is perfect, all of the time. Perfect doesn’t exist. If you’re looking for it, you’re not going to find it." But you said your husband is the perfect husband but then you also said he lacks at least half to most basic traits to be a high value male so how does that work? I know you're going to say something like i don't have to explain that to you, etc because all low value women are like broken records. I literally hear and read the same stuff you spew in different formats from friends in real life to women over the internet. It's incredibly depressing and you all deserve more than that but you're going to continue to disagree with me.

I agree no one is perfect, a one off of some low value traits will happen but if it's consistent or your spouse decides to not get help they're low value. I had my father and mother teach me what a high value male looks like and they still do till this day, I understand that most women don't have that type of role model in their life or they're just desperate for male attention but once you know better do better is my motto.
Wow!! I make emotionally charged answers?
You’ve just written a whole pile of nonsense about me that I haven’t even come anywhere close to saying!
You want to know about my high value husband? I’ll tell you about him.
One night about, 17 months ago, I woke him up in the middle of the night and told him that I had a really bad headache and I needed him to phone an ambulance. I told him that something really bad was happening to me and I needed him to look after me. That’s pretty much the last thing I remember happening until several days later when I wakened up in Intensive Care having had a really serious subarachnoid brain haemorrhage which nearly killed me. He had barely left my side since I had asked him to phone the ambulance. He had to tell my daughters what had happened, my elderly parents and my sister who lives in a different country.
It was 2 weeks before Christmas and he tried to juggle visiting me in ICU with sorting out Christmas for my daughters because he knew I would want them still to have a good Christmas. He visited me several times a day for the whole time I was in hospital while trying to look after my girls also. He cooked meals for me and brought them to the hospital, he washed my clothes. He never once let me down.
When I got out of hospital he stayed at home to look after me for 4 months. He did everything for me until I was able to do some small things myself. He never once complained, or became impatient or anything else. He did all the housework, the cooking, the shopping - everything that needs done really. When he had to go back to work because he was the only wage earner in the house, he continued to do those things and still does do a lot of them because there is still so much I cannot do.
None of this was anything new. All our married life, he has put me and my children first. He is patient, tolerant, funny, generous and rarely loses his temper. He loves me and my children unconditionally and would go to the ends of the earth and back for all of us. He has never once said or done anything to intentionally hurt me.
When we married we both had very well paid jobs. I worked for a little while after my eldest daughter was born. She was a little unwell at times and my employer was very strict about taking time off. Instead, he would take time off.After my second daughter was born, my eldest daughter was more unwell and I wanted to stay home with her. It was going to make things hard financially but we decided if I wanted to be at home for her then I should. He never complained about being the only wage earner, he worked hard and looked after us.
There is nothing my husband would my do for me. He had a good role model in his own father and I had an excellent role model in mine.
All my life, I’ve been lucky to be surrounded by people who cared about me and loved me. People have behaved selflessly towards me and I try to do so towards them. My children have grown up in a home where their parents love each other abd respect each other. We are a very happy family. My children have been taught morals and values and they have been taught how to respect other people.
As girls, they both hate feminists. They see most feminists as a bad advertisement for equality. Respect should be mutual. It works both ways. If you want to be respected then you have to give it.
There are no perfect husbands but I can tell you without doubt, that my husband, is as perfect as you’re going to damn well get. We’ve always shared things between each other - long before we had children. We’re a partnership - that’s how it works.
You have a lot to learn. You know nothing about me or my life. Your assumptions couldn’t be further ftom the truth!
 






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Wow!! I make emotionally charged answers?
You’ve just written a whole pile of nonsense about me that I haven’t even come anywhere close to saying!
You want to know about my high value husband? I’ll tell you about him.
One night about, 17 months ago, I woke him up in the middle of the night and told him that I had a really bad headache and I needed him to phone an ambulance. I told him that something really bad was happening to me and I needed him to look after me. That’s pretty much the last thing I remember happening until several days later when I wakened up in Intensive Care having had a really serious subarachnoid brain haemorrhage which nearly killed me. He had barely left my side since I had asked him to phone the ambulance. He had to tell my daughters what had happened, my elderly parents and my sister who lives in a different country.
It was 2 weeks before Christmas and he tried to juggle visiting me in ICU with sorting out Christmas for my daughters because he knew I would want them still to have a good Christmas. He visited me several times a day for the whole time I was in hospital while trying to look after my girls also. He cooked meals for me and brought them to the hospital, he washed my clothes. He never once let me down.
When I got out of hospital he stayed at home to look after me for 4 months. He did everything for me until I was able to do some small things myself. He never once complained, or became impatient or anything else. He did all the housework, the cooking, the shopping - everything that needs done really. When he had to go back to work because he was the only wage earner in the house, he continued to do those things and still does do a lot of them because there is still so much I cannot do.
None of this was anything new. All our married life, he has put me and my children first. He is patient, tolerant, funny, generous and rarely loses his temper. He loves me and my children unconditionally and would go to the ends of the earth and back for all of us. He has never once said or done anything to intentionally hurt me.
When we married we both had very well paid jobs. I worked for a little while after my eldest daughter was born. She was a little unwell at times and my employer was very strict about taking time off. Instead, he would take time off.After my second daughter was born, my eldest daughter was more unwell and I wanted to stay home with her. It was going to make things hard financially but we decided if I wanted to be at home for her then I should. He never complained about being the only wage earner, he worked hard and looked after us.
There is nothing my husband would my do for me. He had a good role model in his own father and I had an excellent role model in mine.
All my life, I’ve been lucky to be surrounded by people who cared about me and loved me. People have behaved selflessly towards me and I try to do so towards them. My children have grown up in a home where their parents love each other abd respect each other. We are a very happy family. My children have been taught morals and values and they have been taught how to respect other people.
As girls, they both hate feminists. They see most feminists as a bad advertisement for equality. Respect should be mutual. It works both ways. If you want to be respected then you have to give it.
There are no perfect husbands but I can tell you without doubt, that my husband, is as perfect as you’re going to damn well get. We’ve always shared things between each other - long before we had children. We’re a partnership - that’s how it works.
You have a lot to learn. You know nothing about me or my life. Your assumptions couldn’t be further ftom the truth!
I already figured you'd come back with a lot of fluff about how great your man is, I even called it LOL. If what you said was true you'd have put some of that in your first reply to what I said about the qualities of a hvm instead of, "Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest". Do I personally care? No, your comments overall have shown the type of woman you are. You literally said i'm looking for perfection when I said a high value man treats his spouse with respect, is consistent, not abusive, cares about their health and your happiness. My assumptions about you are 1000000% accurate. Also your daughters hating feminists is an incredibly low value mindset. Sure some are crazy but without feminism most women would have no rights. I have nothing to learn lol, you on the other hand do along with your children. Also you're pretty emotionally charged in your reply :), it's not that serious.


Also as having worked in a hospital you're generally not allowed to bring outside meals to patients to minimize risks to them in the ICU. Either you're over-exaggerating or the hospital is sketchy. Anyway i'm de-railing the thread and talking to you is boring at this point. So it's w/e, thanks for the chat.
 






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I already figured you'd come back with a lot of fluff about how great your man is, I even called it LOL. If what you said was true you'd have put some of that in your first reply to what I said about the qualities of a hvm instead of, "Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest". Do I personally care? No, your comments overall have shown the type of woman you are. You literally said i'm looking for perfection when I said a high value man treats his spouse with respect, is consistent, not abusive, cares about their health and your happiness. My assumptions about you are 1000000% accurate. Also your daughters hating feminists is an incredibly low value mindset. Sure some are crazy but without feminism most women would have no rights. I have nothing to learn lol, you on the other hand do along with your children. Also you're pretty emotionally charged in your reply :), it's not that serious.


Also as having worked in a hospital you're generally not allowed to bring outside meals to patients to minimize risks to them in the ICU. Either you're over-exaggerating or the hospital is sketchy. Anyway i'm de-railing the thread and talking to you is boring at this point. So it's w/e, thanks for the chat.
Wow!! What else can I say?
When I go for my next brain MRI to check that my aneurysm is still occluded, I’ll reassure myself that it’s all good. There’s no need to worry it’s going to happen again because I made it all up in the first place!
You really are pathetic!
Your reaction to my post says so much more about you than it does about me!
 






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Wow!! What else can I say?
When I go for my next brain MRI to check that my aneurysm is still occluded, I’ll reassure myself that it’s all good. There’s no need to worry it’s going to happen again because I made it all up in the first place!
You really are pathetic!
Your reaction to my post says so much more about you than it doees about me!
I said I’m de-railing the thread, I thought you would understand that meant ok let’s drop it but no. So drop it. If you want to continue your lame and bullshit rebuttals then dm me.
 






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I don't like queer baiting but I don't understand how come fans purchase their music just because of shipping (kpop pairings not delivering items )

 






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This stuff they do at concerts, I don't remember ever seeing western artists do this unless it was like a male singing to a female about a relationship inspired song. BTS have become known for singing about Army and themselves, but they act like this during such a "deep meaningful" song.View attachment 33544
Suga looks disgusted
 






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Idols have strict dating rules and devoted fans will rage if they see them with someone of the opposite gender.

To avoid the rumours or backlash fans give, they just stick to same sex 'shipping', so that the illusion of their availability for YOU (the fan) is always there.
 






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Idols have strict dating rules and devoted fans will rage if they see them with someone of the opposite gender.

To avoid the rumours or backlash fans give, they just stick to same sex 'shipping', so that the illusion of their availability for YOU (the fan) is always there.
i find it a contradiction , the fans want them together with someone else in the group but they became angry if they falling love, dating etc, with someone of the opposite sex
 






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