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Naomi is famous for being a madame, she was accused of being right there on Epsteins Island when things were going down lol. Not to mention her own sordid history with Afric dictators and Russian billionaires. She is 1000% a pimp.

The Idol is the most disgusting show and I wonder what escorting and deals are being made while at Cannes. It is incredibly known for just being a prostituting hotbed lol.

Tae looks awful, old and haggard. He's really quite messed up and into some stuff with these men he keeps around him when he's in Europe lol.

Lisa is just being pimped out by Fred Arnault or actually dating him. And Jennie is just an opportunist hoe lol.
 
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e-Enoch said:
In my opinion, they are all basically the same...."you see one, you see them all..." They all even look alike... No group is actually excitingly unique...no matter what the gen is...
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I totally agree but thought (going back now) that BIGBANG, FTIsland (as a band) and Monsta X had/have a very unique quality about them and certain individuals within groups have also stood out to me. Here I'm thinking about GOT7 and Stray Kids in particular where I know who some of them are. That's saying a lot for me so ... I know who Jay B and Jackson Wang are. I know who Bang Chan and Changbin are and Felix is completely recognizable. I don't know who any of the girl groups are individually except for BlackPink and I also know who Hwa Sa is (I don't know her group but I know who she is). I'm from Canada and older so quite useless here. Point being, I agree with you entirely that there is rare uniqueness in Kpop. It takes enormous personality or style or talent to be able to stand out. It takes excellent PR. Musically, BIGBANG and BTS have reigned supreme (their songs) even to this day. But for sure -- it's very hard to make that grade and I think it will become even more difficult as competition increases.
 
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I'm not the supernatural type but I get what you're saying. It's there forever. It's about as foolish as when people get someone their dating or even someone they're married to tattooed on them. I'm cool with people tattooing their kids' names or faces on them, or tattoos of/about certain family members, though. But man is it weird when it's a celebrity. I guess people don't think much of it because it's a famous person, but it'd be no different than a stalker getting their victim tattooed on them.
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Or tattooing an idol's name or face on your body would be like an act of worship (like Biblical-times pagan-style idol/god worship very infuriating to and punishable by God).
 
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theartbook35 said:
I remember when I first heard Jennie, which was on Lee Ho's song, Special. I instantly thought she sounded amazing. She also sounded NOTHING like how she sounds today. If they had let her keep up with her real voice and used that style, BP would sound very different today. Same can be said for Jisoo.

They did the same with JH. He could sing, really really well before debut, but they made him into a rapper. Like, why? Why not use an artist's strengths instead of trying to make them into something they aren't.
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I love J-Hope's voice but J-Hope himself disappoints. He's anti-everything righteous, consistently. Even just ... why in the hell would he wear a communist symbol? What jackassery is that.
 
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Riko said:
Naomi is famous for being a madame, she was accused of being right there on Epsteins Island when things were going down lol. Not to mention her own sordid history with Afric dictators and Russian billionaires. She is 1000% a pimp.

The Idol is the most disgusting show and I wonder what escorting and deals are being made while at Cannes. It is incredibly known for just being a prostituting hotbed lol.

Tae looks awful, old and haggard. He's really quite messed up and into some stuff with these men he keeps around him when he's in Europe lol.

Lisa is just being pimped out by Fred Arnault or actually dating him. And Jennie is just an opportunist hoe lol.
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Yes he looks better while ago
 
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Lily-Blue said:
I totally agree but thought (going back now) that BIGBANG, FTIsland (as a band) and Monsta X had/have a very unique quality about them and certain individuals within groups have also stood out to me. Here I'm thinking about GOT7 and Stray Kids in particular where I know who some of them are. That's saying a lot for me so ... I know who Jay B and Jackson Wang are. I know who Bang Chan and Changbin are and Felix is completely recognizable. I don't know who any of the girl groups are individually except for BlackPink and I also know who Hwa Sa is (I don't know her group but I know who she is). I'm from Canada and older so quite useless here. Point being, I agree with you entirely that there is rare uniqueness in Kpop. It takes enormous personality or style or talent to be able to stand out. It takes excellent PR. Musically, BIGBANG and BTS have reigned supreme (their songs) even to this day. But for sure -- it's very hard to make that grade and I think it will become even more difficult as competition increases.
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You are right. There are exceptions, too, especially during Bigbang's era. I've observed that YG tries to "create" quite "unique" groups also like Bigbang and 2NE1... It's sad that YG "reverted" back to the common "idol group" concept...like BP, "replacing" 2NE1...There's nothing unique about BP, I supposed... Rap groups such as Epik High is also unique in terms of their lyrics highlighting Korean psyche..

Hwasa (Mamamoo), Hyolyn (Sistar), and Jessie have similar "concepts" showing more of the "liberated" and "daring" types of women...but it seems that Korean society isn't "ready" yet for this kind of "showmanship..."

Overall, there's still some "sporadic uniqueness" in KPop, I agree... But nowadays, I see more of boring sameness in their industry...
 
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Riko said:
Naomi is famous for being a madame, she was accused of being right there on Epsteins Island when things were going down lol. Not to mention her own sordid history with Afric dictators and Russian billionaires. She is 1000% a pimp.

The Idol is the most disgusting show and I wonder what escorting and deals are being made while at Cannes. It is incredibly known for just being a prostituting hotbed lol.

Tae looks awful, old and haggard. He's really quite messed up and into some stuff with these men he keeps around him when he's in Europe lol.

Lisa is just being pimped out by Fred Arnault or actually dating him. And Jennie is just an opportunist hoe lol.
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Oh I checked Naomi out after reading your comment. What with her obsession with weird space inspired looking houses, one specifically looks like this. (bombastic side-eye)images (8).jpeg
So now if V is running around in these elite circles, he is a total sell-out.
 
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theartbook35 said:
The fact that they don't even speculate, they just openly declare that certain BT5 members are gay without enough facts to support it gets on my nerves. It's just as bad as insisting that someone who's gay is straight. Bottom line, we don't know, and we probably never will know for certain. Like, I could speculate all day about somebody like JH who has sent mixed signals for years, or SG who is hilariously cryptic, or go as far as to say that at least half the members are likely straight, but I'm never gonna be right or wrong because I can't say for sure either way.

It really does bother me too that armpits have zero issue with any BT5 member being close to a man. It's weirdly bias and also, I think these armpits use this as a way to make themselves look like they are pro-LGBT+ when they actually aren't. They don't give a crap about the LGBT+ community, they just like the appearance of being "pro-pride", and there's a huge fetishism and exploitation wrapped up in this.
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I believe homosexuality is a spiritual disease, nothing else. This thread was started on the premise of them working as pawns of Satan which I totally believe that's the case but there is a little glimmer of hope everytime, may be they are normal in some sort of way but no, they are not. My point was why people of book specifically here knowing damn well homosexuality is a sin likes to push this idea onto them. Well it could be he is into men, but I hope that's not the case and he or any other person just comes out of it. I know you are not religious, and on the subject, we certainly don't see each other eye to eye. But yes I agree, bt* is not pro anything, that's just a money making gimmick. When they toured Muslim countries back in the day, they use to wear their clothing and some naive Muslims or kids got so inspired by them here in Asia lol because they market themselves this way to appeal the masses.
 
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So jk came vlive and suddenly started talking about seventeen.
New type of promotion i see.
Remember those days where they act as they are high and didn't mention any other artists except themselves.
We all know they transferred their fame when every group idol went to svt concert.

They are heavily promoting svt now but which group they will promote if svt starts to enlist.

There are rumours of jk and Jay park Collab. He did a Collab with the one who criticized his group.
 
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delusion.everywhere said:
Oh I checked Naomi out after reading your comment. What with her obsession with weird space inspired looking houses, one specifically looks like this. (bombastic side-eye)View attachment 87315
So now if V is running around in these elite circles, he is a total sell-out.
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That house was given to her by the Russian billionaire ex.

The same ex who allegedly asked her to service Mr Putin one night and ended up with her being in the news for having been "mugged" in Russia, due to her being papped having come back home to the UK in a wheelchair with a broken leg and covered in bruises. It's a sick world lol.

Jennie allegedly got the highest amount for a yacht girl for one night, 2 milli that all went to her manager. Cannes is just somewhere to secure deals, will be interesting to see where she and the girls end up next. Tae is clearly aiming for a more elite clientele with Naomis help. No wonder the other members don't want anything to do with him lol. It's so obvious, cracks are showing.
 
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But yes I agree, bt* is not pro anything, that's just a money making gimmick. When they toured Muslim countries back in the day, they use to wear their clothing and some naive Muslims or kids got so inspired by them here in Asia lol because they market themselves this way to appeal the masses.
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I was speaking specifically to armpits not being pro-LGBT+, but I do agree that BT5 are not as a whole pro-anything. Generally speaking, if someone is misogynistic, they are also homophobic and transphobic. All three go hand-in-hand and all three are all about how sexes should behave based on the rules other people set. So even though BT5 members often pass themselves off as pro-LGBT+, their history of misogynistic behavior automatically proves otherwise.

Simplified: RM is a known misogynist but claims to be okay with gays (aka feminine acting men), which makes exactly zero sense.
 
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theartbook35 said:
I was speaking specifically to armpits not being pro-LGBT+, but I do agree that BT5 are not as a whole pro-anything. Generally speaking, if someone is misogynistic, they are also homophobic and transphobic. All three go hand-in-hand and all three are all about how sexes should behave based on the rules other people set. So even though BT5 members often pass themselves off as pro-LGBT+, their history of misogynistic behavior automatically proves otherwise.

Simplified: RM is a known misogynist but claims to be okay with gays (aka feminine acting men), which makes exactly zero sense.
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I disagree. Like I said, when it comes to this, we don't see eye to eye. Anyone who is against gays doesn't have to be misogynistic.
In short, regarding bt* they are here to make some coin.
 
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Riko said:
That house was given to her by the Russian billionaire ex.

The same ex who allegedly asked her to service Mr Putin one night and ended up with her being in the news for having been "mugged" in Russia, due to her being papped having come back home to the UK in a wheelchair with a broken leg and covered in bruises. It's a sick world lol.

Jennie allegedly got the highest amount for a yacht girl for one night, 2 milli that all went to her manager. Cannes is just somewhere to secure deals, will be interesting to see where she and the girls end up next. Tae is clearly aiming for a more elite clientele with Naomis help. No wonder the other members don't want anything to do with him lol. It's so obvious, cracks are showing.
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The other members do services too, but maybe are more discrete than him
 
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I believe homosexuality is a spiritual disease, nothing else. This thread was started on the premise of them working as pawns of Satan which I totally believe that's the case but there is a little glimmer of hope everytime, may be they are normal in some sort of way but no, they are not. My point was why people of book specifically here knowing damn well homosexuality is a sin likes to push this idea onto them. Well it could be he is into men, but I hope that's not the case and he or any other person just comes out of it. I know you are not religious, and on the subject, we certainly don't see each other eye to eye. But yes I agree, bt* is not pro anything, that's just a money making gimmick. When they toured Muslim countries back in the day, they use to wear their clothing and some naive Muslims or kids got so inspired by them here in Asia lol because they market themselves this way to appeal the masses.
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Homosexuality is absolutely spiritual, I agree, and I believe transgenderism (not kids who are gaslit by transgenders but actual gender dysphoria) is a strong demonic spirit.
 
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