BTS discussion thread

[queen82]

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[Beholden to Paramatma]

Hey everyone!
As you can make out from my profile, I am a rookie and have been the most active in this thread. So, I am most comfortable raising a question in here. I hope some of you wont mind answering me.
I am a practicing Hindu. But, I am deeply interested in theology and presently I am reading up a bit about Abrahamic faiths. My history teacher, a Roman Catholic who does not believe in the theory of evolution after teaching us about it and quiet frequently inserts biblical anecdotes into her classes, has spurred my interest in the idea of Satan in Abrahamic faiths.

My question to adherents of Abrahamic faiths is as follows:
Do you believe that Satan or The Devil exists as a creature?
Elaboration : When I, as a Hindu, think of evil I don’t necessarily personify it as the Devil. But do you, as a practitioner of an Abrahamic faith, tascribe all evil deeds to a creature say Satan or is it more allegorical?

 

[Beholden to Paramatma]

Iblis | Meaning, Name, & Significance

Iblis, in Islam, the personal name of the Devil. The counterpart of Satan in Christianity, he was created either as an angel or a jinni but was condemned after refusing to bow before Adam. Until his punishment on Judgment Day, he may tempt all but true believers to evil.

www.britannica.com

Seeing occultism and satanism is very real and they work with demon/jin, I have no doubt satan is a real thing.

Chapter 4: Other Beliefs and Practices

Both the Quran and hadith make reference to witchcraft and the evil eye as well as to supernatural beings known in Arabic as jinn (the origin of the

www.pewforum.org

Thank you very much For sharing these links!
The spammer most definitely has to be BigSit employee.For them to resurface suddenly on this thread, I believ we might have been on to something explosive.
My guess Is that our theories of chart manipulation were correct.

On another note, BTS‘s popularity is definitely on the decline PTD‘s performance has been dismal. Popular fan accounts that I have been keeping track of have stopped speaking about it in the entirety.
The rabid fans are trying to justify the ear-cancer ptd and rebuking other k-fandoms, primarily blinks by asserting that Ltd was a gift to army’s.

 

[swayy000]

Read some comments from here.

Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

Another kpop idol, Kang Min Soo or Aquinas comes out as bisexual today. He definitely got more attention from that. And his last mv one month ago was pretty symbolic too, with the colors, masks and the devil horns dance move in the chorus. The same old same old, this is not surprising at all...

vigilantcitizenforums.com

If bh was so annoyed with this thread, they would have deleted it already in 3 years or started to spam right after chart manipulation posts. Reality is every adults knows these celebs chart is manipulated and idols are corrupted. They don't need to go in depth to ghost that out. The spammer was in disguise from the very beginning and was spreading misinformation and started to spam right after, just after 5 mins, that satan-lucifer conversation when someone asked whats the real deal with being vague.
Its no bh staff but, a disguised paid occultist.

paid by who? sorry im just trying to understand

 

[swayy000]

Whoever appoints occultists on an occultic forum or......

Spoiler

Bhi si

Or.....

Spoiler

Himself

To be honest, they are jewish occultists trying to freak the hell out of goyim with disinfo and impose occult.

wait im confused what does bhi si mean? and who is "himself" that you're referring to? the spammer? or im just dumb and not catching the hints lol
and i checked their profile and it seems to me that vc finally took care of the problem...

 

[swayy000]

But not on the right time

Truth Zone Forum: vigilant citizen forum (1/2)

I was wondering if there are any members here who were on the 'old' Vigilant Citizen Forums - before it became co...

truth-zone.net

thats why i was so confused when i asked this at first

Vc is keeping it for a reason to hide something you still don't understand? Now Im confirmed what is all this about

what could he be hiding?

 

[FoamyBubbles]

Hey everyone!
As you can make out from my profile, I am a rookie and have been the most active in this thread. So, I am most comfortable raising a question in here. I hope some of you wont mind answering me.
I am a practicing Hindu. But, I am deeply interested in theology and presently I am reading up a bit about Abrahamic faiths. My history teacher, a Roman Catholic who does not believe in the theory of evolution after teaching us about it and quiet frequently inserts biblical anecdotes into her classes, has spurred my interest in the idea of Satan in Abrahamic faiths.

My question to adherents of Abrahamic faiths is as follows:
Do you believe that Satan or The Devil exists as a creature?
Elaboration : When I, as a Hindu, think of evil I don’t necessarily personify it as the Devil. But do you, as a practitioner of an Abrahamic faith, tascribe all evil deeds to a creature say Satan or is it more allegorical?

I also believe that satan is a real creature. The Bible clearly talks about the earth being satan's domain(seeing what is happeningnin the world,this should come to no surprise)
satan fell because he tried to exalt himself above God.
Here is a Link to a short written explanation of who satan is, where he comes from, what he does etc.

Who is Satan? Who is the devil?

What does the Bible say about Satan? Who is Satan? Where did he come from? What caused his fall? What does he do now, where is he now?

activechristianity.org

 

[Strawberrypie]

There is no way they could hold the top three spots simultaneously. That makes no sense. If they are so popular to take number one, then how are they less popular enough to take number two and three? I'm willing to bet they paid for that. Because the top three are going to be marketed to Spotify users the most I'll bet, so if they are in the top three, all people will see is BT5.

Most articles do just a bit more research than that, and try to explain how this actually occurred. They don't just write that something happened and expect readers to take their word for it the way that Forbes did here.

Forbes probably got paid to write a bogus article selling BT5 to their readers in the hope that they'd see this "top artist" and be influenced to listen simply because they sound popular.

Edit: I also want to say that I don't know what the demographics are of Forbes readers, however, I highly doubt that pre-teens, teens and young adults read Forbes. I cannot imagine two 14 year olds sitting in home-room together saying "Hey did you read that Forbes article about BT5?"

I don't think kids read Forbes. It's usually older people who are investing. There's a lot of articles about Bang. This could be an attempt to get more investors and influence stock purchases.

Whoever appoints occultists on an occultic forum this can be regular occultist
Or......

Spoiler

Bhi si ef

Or.....

Spoiler

Himself

Cz

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They weren't banned for a long time and tried a lot to clear they know secrets, when a user was at a stake of being exposed with holding the same secret and started spamming after 5 mins.

To be honest, they are jewish occultists trying to freak the hell out of goyim with disinfo and impose occult.

Can we please refrain from antisemitism. It's offensive to some people here.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Can you put the timestamp where he does the handsign? Sorry I might have missed it, i put the video on mute and skipped around cause i didnt want to watch them for too long. I will say sugar acts so weird, looks like he's completely unaware of what's going on...
Regarding t ex t, i personally think that all the members were born into the industry. And if not all then especially y30njun, t@ehyun, and hu3n1ng ka1. I posted in the kpop thread a picture i found of hu3n1ng kai's dad doing the 666 symbol. Sad to see how all the siblings were/are in the industry. And if i remember t@ehyun and y30njun where in the spotlight since they were kids, and i believe they came from wealthy/ well-off families. I also saw a picture of s00bin doing the one eye as a kid which i thought was pretty sus. T@ehyun does resemble jayk but i always thought the person he reminded me of the most was j0nghyun from sh1nee.

Huening Kai's father is an actor in China. In some ways, he's always been a part of the business. Taehyun does look like Jonghyun. I thought I put the timestamp in, sorry about that. It's around 4:04

 

[NGodsHnds]

Even after releasing such horrible music, Bt5 become the front runners in grammys. I mean what other proof do people need to realize that grammys are rigged? I bet they wouldn't even acknowledge it if some other group released those songs instead of Bt5.

That’s why I was saying I would be okay of they didn’t win or of they even came. A lot of rituals happen on the night of the grammy’s, not to mention the debauchery that happens at the after parties. I really want to believe they go straight back to the hotel after these US visits but I highly doubt it, especially if it’s time to “pay up”

 

[NGodsHnds]

Thats funny cause i remembered when i watched jd's video where she exposed them she said that y30njun reminded her of t@e from bt5. And i remembered in the past when i had my twitter fan account soo many people would compare them together. I think that was bigshit/hyb3's goal though, to make him the "t@e" of the group even though i never saw it, he reminded me of j1m1n for some reason. I guess now its because of plastic like features and overdone lip fillers they both have. He probably does have sponsors and is a pass around like tae, he's clearly bang p3d0's favorite with the gay twink shota (boy version of lolita) image they gave him

The thought of Tae or any of these men (at one time boys) getting passed around just breaks my heart. It’s a cruel reality of this industry that I pray os exposed to the point of dismantling. I know that’s wishful thinking but I pray for it nonetheless.

 

[eaisa]

I said jewish "occultist"

and why do you need to point out the jewish part? it has the same energy as "black gangster"

 

[Strawberrypie]

Let me rephrase--
I said jewish "occultist" that shouldn't be offensive.

Are you saying all Jews are occultists? Like @eaisa said, it's like saying black thug. You don't have to point out race to get a point across. I've met or known of occultists of all races. There's a lot of blood libel in the conspiracy community. Soon, someone will say Jews eat babies and drink blood with their matzos.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Occultism is alive due to a group of jewish people and they are spreading it in the name of enlightenment with so called secret societies.

I'm a Jew. We're not thinking about nonjews that way. We're usually trying to get through each day, survive and are wary of others because we've been persecuted a lot. As a non-white Jew, this is hella offensive. Maybe a very few are involved in something, but I put this in the same category you put Satanism. No proof.

 

[Strawberrypie]

That’s why I was saying I would be okay of they didn’t win or of they even came. A lot of rituals happen on the night of the grammy’s, not to mention the debauchery that happens at the after parties. I really want to believe they go straight back to the hotel after these US visits but I highly doubt it, especially if it’s time to “pay up”

They and many others are being passed around and used at the Grammys. That whole town needs to be brought down.

 

[Daisy2]

Are you saying all Jews are occultists? Like @eaisa said, it's like saying black thug. You don't have to point out race to get a point across. I've met or known of occultists of all races. There's a lot of blood libel in the conspiracy community. Soon, someone will say Jews eat babies and drink blood with their matzos.

I'm a Jew. We're not thinking about nonjews that way. We're usually trying to get through each day, survive and are wary of others because we've been persecuted a lot. As a non-white Jew, this is hella offensive. Maybe a very few are involved in something, but I put this in the same category you put Satanism. No proof.

What do you mean by putting in same category? So many jews are involved and porn industries, worlds biggest politicians and power are trying to build the state of israel again and majority of the people know why. Satanism is what worshipping lucifer, what jews want, proof is infront of you. Satanism is extremely bad and heinous. Noone is offending you personally. I see many people say very badly in this forum about my religion but I simply avoid it. Because thats not personal. Stop blaming people every now and then and keep calm.

 

[Yellowish]

I'm a Jew. We're not thinking about nonjews that way. We're usually trying to get through each day, survive and are wary of others because we've been persecuted a lot. As a non-white Jew, this is hella offensive. Maybe a very few are involved in something, but I put this in the same category you put Satanism. No proof.

Maybe you aren't thinking the same but history and the world's current wave say the opposite. You are trying to justify satanism for the lack of proof? You are trying to gain credibility by saying Ive met many occultists? Im doubtful about you now. People know what these are with common sense and what they do. People see through their eyes and brain why exactly jews were persecuted. Don't play the victim game. If you are really good, don't take side of the occultic jews and the bad one too. Peace

 

[Strawberrypie]

What do you mean by putting in same category? So many jews are involved and porn industries, worlds biggest politicians and power are trying to build the state of israel again and majority of the people know why. Satanism is what worshipping lucifer, what jews want, proof is infront of you. Satanism is extremely bad and heinous. Noone is offending you personally. I see many people say very badly in this forum about my religion but I simply avoid it. Because thats not personal. Stop blaming people every now and then and keep calm.

I avoided a lot of people saying racist and outrageous things about blacks, Muslims, Asians, Christians etc. The conspiracy movement is infested with racism, ignorance a lack of common sense. These same claims were made once before. It ended with the deaths of 6millions Jews,a million Romani, 6 millions Polish, an unknown number of Christians, a million gays, many disabled, mixed race, and mentally ill. Do you stand with the Nazis or decent people? Many whites were involved in the slave trade, colonization and r*pe of the environment. I don't go around screaming about them. Every group does bad things. You're not talking about my religion, you're talking about my ancestry and my people.

Maybe you aren't thinking the same but history and the world's current wave say the opposite. You are trying to justify satanism for the lack of proof? You are trying to gain credibility by saying Ive met many occultists? Im doubtful about you now. People know what these are with common sense and what they do. People see through their eyes and brain why exactly jews were persecuted. Don't play the victim game. If you are really good, don't take side of the occultic jews and the bad one too. Peace

What are you talking about. Lal has denied satanism after I said it's true. You're saying all Jews are satanists. That's dangerous and has gotten my people killed before. I'm sickened that people still think like this. Blocked.

 

[Yellowish]

I avoided a lot of people saying racist and outrageous things about blacks, Muslims, Asians, Christians etc. The conspiracy movement is infested with racism, ignorance a lack of common sense. These same claims were made once before. It ended with the deaths of 6millions Jews,a million Romani, 6 millions Polish, an unknown number of Christians, a million gays, many disabled, mixed race, and mentally ill. Do you stand with the Nazis or decent people? Many whites were involved in the slave trade, colonization and r*pe of the environment. I don't go around screaming about them. Every group does bad things. You're not talking about my religion, you're talking about my ancestry and my people.


What are you talking about. Lal has denied satanism after I said it's true. You're saying all Jews are satanists. That's dangerous and has gotten my people killed before. I'm sickened that people still think like this. Blocked.

I witness you are so good at pointing others fault. She constantly proving satanism is evil as hell dude. You are only proving her point of satanist shills being here and what others years ago exposed. Ignored

 

[NGodsHnds]

They and many others are being passed around and used at the Grammys. That whole town needs to be brought down.

It certainly does and I’ve wanted to be an actress my whole life but it has to be brought down in order for it to be all about the art instead of this other disgusting crap. The unfortunate thing is there are so many people in this industry who are genuinely talented and just want to share their gift. I guess maybe the dismantling of the “celebrity” or “idol” itself needs to be dismantled so artist will no longer be used for nefarious agendas…I know, I know wishful thinking