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They went with them to sign the second contracts. Those are grown men. There was a rumor about the parents suing because they were being filmed while sick or injured. But I didn't hear anything more about it.
i talked about Jungkook in particular, he was a kid when he was a trainee and when he debuted, his parents def sold him to the industry
 
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i talked about Jungkook in particular, he was a kid when he was a trainee and when he debuted, his parents def sold him to the industry
I think all of the maknae line were sold. Has anyone ever seen an audition tape for Tae? What about Jm? I've it seen auditions for Jk, Sg and Jh. Supposedly Jin was picked off the street. That's a snowball's chance in hell of being the truth. There's a girl from a kpop group with a similar story. She's also well to do like Jin and was very homely like he used to be. What did Tae do to get into btees? What about Jm? I have a good idea and it's making my stomach hurt.
 
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Their audition stories sound fake to me always, in my opinion they were already selected secretly and just played the role of normal audition boy. Not showing audition clips just proofs they had foul play in that what that b@ng is doing from the beginning. And they weren't struggling so hard as they showed. T4e's family weren't that poor moreover his parents were too greedy for money and decided to sale him. J!m!n used to attend a dance school that seemed his family's living was already wealthy enough to pay for that. I used to feel pity for their condition how they were unprotected from those perverts but now they seem to be happily accepting and gaying with it. You should read the thread thoroughly or use search engine to get more information, these were discussed before.

Squeezing all money from the fans for their idiotic behavior and pushing damaging agendas being a role model isn't a normal job for sane people. They do next to nothing hardwork now than to giggle like idiots in the shows, hundreds of people are getting their work done in that hybe building, they signed 2nd time the deadly contract for nothing. And now they are reaching the level of their handlers slowly, p***philic theme from dynamite was a huge step to progress further and of course to suck that grammy award. I don't see any sign in anyone of them of dissatisfaction with that false godly prideful life, especially jekey nowadays looks creepy and overly prideful to me, like he newly got the sweet taste of evil, Im getting his creepy vibe from the middle of last year. All of them, maknae and hyung line, are now similar with their evil and getting more downwards day by day, tbh this new concept got me speechless. I have no consideration for anyone of them anymore unless anyone really tries to get outta it openly cause showing a little depressing face or stories are like trynna get attention from their level, but that escaping from idol life sounds delusional or fanatic to me now.
There's no public audition tape for Tae, Jm and Jin. I agree that's a red flag. I've read most of this thread but will search for more about their parents selling them.

A few years ago, Jk was very different. Something has changed with him. Yes they're growing up but when you look at his eyes, there's nothing there. I have to resist babying them or falling for their manipulation. They calculate everything to gain the most attention, money and babying.

I get tired of Armys saying they work so hard. The struggle story is so false. Their success is also the success of hundreds or more employees and ghost writers. Bang was well to do when he trained btees. He chose to take care of them so cheaply. Everyone but btees is living well off their money. Do you think they signed again because he has info on them? There's rumors that one of them was at Burning Sun. Han Seo Hee said Tae was in a club with her when he was a minor. Most people accept that dispatch has or had a deal with Bh to keep their secrets. There's little incentive to keep paying if btees is on the way out. They chose to sign again with one of the worst contracts in kpop. They're benefiting in some way.
 

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I think all of the maknae line were sold. Has anyone ever seen an audition tape for Tae? What about Jm? I've it seen auditions for Jk, Sg and Jh. Supposedly Jin was picked off the street. That's a snowball's chance in hell of being the truth. There's a girl from a kpop group with a similar story. She's also well to do like Jin and was very homely like he used to be. What did Tae do to get into btees? What about Jm? I have a good idea and it's making my stomach hurt.
i think the one of Jin may be a made up story, since he's from a very rich family.. what's the name of the girl group?
 

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There's no public audition tape for Tae, Jm and Jin. I agree that's a red flag. I've read most of this thread but will search for more about their parents selling them.

A few years ago, Jk was very different. Something has changed with him. Yes they're growing up but when you look at his eyes, there's nothing there. I have to resist babying them or falling for their manipulation. They calculate everything to gain the most attention, money and babying.

I get tired of Armys saying they work so hard. The struggle story is so false. Their success is also the success of hundreds or more employees and ghost writers. Bang was well to do when he trained btees. He chose to take care of them so cheaply. Everyone but btees is living well off their money. Do you think they signed again because he has info on them? There's rumors that one of them was at Burning Sun. Han Seo Hee said Tae was in a club with her when he was a minor. Most people accept that dispatch has or had a deal with Bh to keep their secrets. There's little incentive to keep paying if btees is on the way out. They chose to sign again with one of the worst contracts in kpop. They're benefiting in some way.
they all change not just Jungkook
 
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i think the one of Jin may be a made up story, since he's from a very rich family.. what's the name of the girl group?
I think it was Umji. People bullied her, saying she's ugly. Even an article doubted she was scouted on the street. She's glowed up recently and looks very pretty.
they all change not just Jungkook
He never had a chance. Surrounded by yes men and women, doted on and worshipped by fans. That warps well adjusted adult stars. He was raised by his hyungs and exposed to debauchery. I think that applies for the whole maknae line. The group has changed a lot. They can barely be bothered to say hi to fans or look interested during interviews.
 

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I think it was Umji. People bullied her, saying she's ugly. Even an article doubted she was scouted on the street. She's glowed up recently and looks very pretty.

He never had a chance. Surrounded by yes men and women, doted on and worshipped by fans. That warps well adjusted adult stars. He was raised by his hyungs and exposed to debauchery. I think that applies for the whole maknae line. The group has changed a lot. They can barely be bothered to say hi to fans or look interested during interviews.
that's really sad
 

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Speaking of vocals, Jin mentioned about not having a vocal training for 5 years, but BH or Hybe deleted that part. I found the translation on twitter and the unsubbed video on choachan, but I'll just share both the choachan post (just search on that page "kiwi") and the direct link.



The bigger companies put more effort into training their idols. Why didn't they put some of the money back into bts to improve their singing?
 

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Speaking of vocals, Jin mentioned about not having a vocal training for 5 years, but BH or Hybe deleted that part. I found the translation on twitter and the unsubbed video on choachan, but I'll just share both the choachan post (just search on that page "kiwi") and the direct link.




I don't know what to believe because I feel they play victim to get fans more addicted
playing the victim has been part of this group forever

Jin is close to 30 years old
With all his money, why isn't he hiring a vocal teacher for himself?
after dancing for 10 years there are no excuse for being bad at it STILL

sorry if I sound insensitive, but they always use the victim card, maybe BH deleted it because it was bad for the company
But their movies are always about crying and suffering
 

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Their audition stories sound fake to me always, in my opinion they were already selected secretly and just played the role of normal audition boy. Not showing audition clips just proofs they had foul play in that what that b@ng is doing from the beginning. And they weren't struggling so hard as they showed. T4e's family weren't that poor moreover his parents were too greedy for money and decided to sale him. J!m!n used to attend a dance school that seemed his family's living was already wealthy enough to pay for that. I used to feel pity for their condition how they were unprotected from those perverts but now they seem to be happily accepting and gaying with it. You should read the thread thoroughly or use search engine to get more information, these were discussed before.

Squeezing all money from the fans for their idiotic behavior and pushing damaging agendas being a role model isn't a normal job for sane people. They do next to nothing hardwork now than to giggle like idiots in the shows, hundreds of people are getting their work done in that hybe building, they signed 2nd time the deadly contract for nothing. And now they are reaching the level of their handlers slowly, p***philic theme from dynamite was a huge step to progress further and of course to suck that grammy award. I don't see any sign in anyone of them of dissatisfaction with that false godly prideful life, especially jekey nowadays looks creepy and overly prideful to me, like he newly got the sweet taste of evil, Im getting his creepy vibe from the middle of last year. All of them, maknae and hyung line, are now similar with their evil and getting more downwards day by day, tbh this new concept got me speechless. I have no consideration for anyone of them anymore unless anyone really tries to get outta it openly cause showing a little depressing face or stories are like trynna get attention from their level, but that escaping from idol life sounds delusional or fanatic to me now.
after getting a Grammy nom with Dynamite, they will do another song in English trying to get the same attention

Their music getting worse with every album, now they are singing songs for kids, with embarrassing lyrics
their debut albums were all about criticizing the goverment, the school system. And now they are the biggest goverment puppets
the korean president loves them and keep them away from enlistment, all the other male idols are going to the Army while BTS are filming RUN shows playing with toys.
 
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I don't know what to believe because I feel they play victim to get fans more addicted
playing the victim has been part of this group forever

Jin is close to 30 years old
With all his money, why isn't he hiring a vocal teacher for himself?
after dancing for 10 years there are no excuse for being bad at it STILL

sorry if I sound insensitive, but they always use the victim card, maybe BH deleted it because it was bad for the company
But their movies are always about crying and suffering
Hi, the fans are starting to get tired of the victim and struggle story. Maybe they need a new survey to come up with another concept.
 
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They have gone too far. They are competing with lady gaga type of s4tanic lady in america, its understandable how deep they have got into occult and sinister business. Its no more about they want it or not, its a cycle which is almost impossible to escape from. The level they have reached already they definitely have many confidential materials to be scared of, containing sexual assault on them or by them, p***philia, or any drug usage or seungri scandal type materials etc etc. I remember how dispatch was using T4e's and jk's photo on their dp continuously. Its like they were scaring bang for more cash to hide out something otherwise will expose them, altho there is no benefit for dispatch by doing that.

I also believe its possible T4e was really in that bar, its not a surprise if he himself was there or for other reason. They are being passed around way too much from debut, bang literally put on an "escort boy" written tshirt on him, how more obvious it can be. But I don't think beetes or bang will be that fool to get involved in burning sun, thats too risky when beetes is still his only ultimate cash cow.
They are in deep and once on that level, how can they get out? Has anyone ever gotten out? Their escort status has always been obvious. The overseas trips, homoerotic pictures, the t-shirt, call me signals and that pic with Psy. Do you think they ever got tired of it? I'm reading old posts about Jimin's alcoholism. He drinks to get drunk as fast as possible. Sometimes survivors will abuse drugs or alcohol to feel better. Tae's sad demeanor can be another manifestation. So can Rm and Jk's desire to please. Those are dynamics seen in dysfunctional families.

The person who went to burning sun was a hyung. Tae was accused of being at a club with Han Seo hee. She got caught selling drugs. A lot of idols went down as a result of her confessions. There is a video on YouTube about Dispatch using Tae and Jk on their Instagram and twitter. The person said they might be trying to say something or doing it for clout. I don't doubt that they probably experimented when they were younger. It's a stretch to say that they're in a long term relationship. There was one exposed in another group and admitted to by the members. Once they went solo, their new company denied it. They probably have a graveyard in their closet.
 

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Hi, the fans are starting to get tired of the victim and struggle story. Maybe they need a new survey to come up with another concept.
you know after that survey a lot of the members became even more fake, for example RM became this clumsy guy, it was said it this thread that his clumsy acts are all an exageration, they are acting in those RUN shows

It's the same with the ships, because they know what ship is more popular

I have to say I'm shocked they are still a complete group after all these years
at this point most popular groups already lost a member or at least had a scandal

The fact that BTS remains super clean is very strange, of course their goverment ties makes the media protect them , for example Dispatch
I wonder how long will this last? they don't enlist, their have no competition and no scandals, and BH keeps buying all small companies in kpop.
 

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I think all of the maknae line were sold. Has anyone ever seen an audition tape for Tae? What about Jm? I've it seen auditions for Jk, Sg and Jh. Supposedly Jin was picked off the street. That's a snowball's chance in hell of being the truth. There's a girl from a kpop group with a similar story. She's also well to do like Jin and was very homely like he used to be. What did Tae do to get into btees? What about Jm? I have a good idea and it's making my stomach hurt.
Their audition stories sound fake to me always, in my opinion they were already selected secretly and just played the role of normal audition boy. Not showing audition clips just proofs they had foul play in that what that b@ng is doing from the beginning. And they weren't struggling so hard as they showed. T4e's family weren't that poor moreover his parents were too greedy for money and decided to sale him. J!m!n used to attend a dance school that seemed his family's living was already wealthy enough to pay for that. I used to feel pity for their condition how they were unprotected from those perverts but now they seem to be happily accepting and gaying with it. You should read the thread thoroughly or use search engine to get more information, these were discussed before.

Squeezing all money from the fans for their idiotic behavior and pushing damaging agendas being a role model isn't a normal job for sane people. They do next to nothing hardwork now than to giggle like idiots in the shows, hundreds of people are getting their work done in that hybe building, they signed 2nd time the deadly contract for nothing. And now they are reaching the level of their handlers slowly, p***philic theme from dynamite was a huge step to progress further and of course to suck that grammy award. I don't see any sign in anyone of them of dissatisfaction with that false godly prideful life, especially jekey nowadays looks creepy and overly prideful to me, like he newly got the sweet taste of evil, Im getting his creepy vibe from the middle of last year. All of them, maknae and hyung line, are now similar with their evil and getting more downwards day by day, tbh this new concept got me speechless. I have no consideration for anyone of them anymore unless anyone really tries to get outta it openly cause showing a little depressing face or stories are like trynna get attention from their level, but that escaping from idol life sounds delusional or fanatic to me now.
yeah ive been seeing some weird vibes from j k as well... the way he acts is sometimes so weird. After reading all the things you guys have said, it's got me thinking, what do you guys think about the stories of t ex t getting into the company? i dont see any of their audition videos either.... Some of the members said that their parents were not happy with them choosing to become idols, and i believe s00bin dropped out of highschool to become a trainee and his family was pissed or something like that. However it sounds alot like bt5's story, where there parents also opposed the idea of them becoming an idol. on soompi it said that Yoongi's parents opposed to his choice of becoming an idol at first because it was their way to look after their son. Since they suffered a lot, they wanted their children to have a stable life by working an office job. But after reading what you guys said it's really surprised me.i know especially the "worked their way up" was a lie because their sucesss was planned from the beginning, but for some reason i thought they all came from poor families
And I assume most, if not all of the t ex t members come from rich families/ families that are well off. After reading all the things you guys have said, I get the feeling that they were born into this industry, especially hu3ning ka1 and ye0njun. In one mtv interview where they were making pizza, t@ehyun said that they were born to do music... and Be0mgyu used to talk about how he was starting to feel depressed and not knowing who he is anymore, and I felt bad for him and it made sense knowing the industry they are in and how young they still are, but now again after reading what you guys are saying, he's starting to sound alot like t@e, and I can't tell if its genuinley him speaking about his feelings or their company pulling the victim card again :( And i really dont want to believe they were passed around/ serviced like i see you guys speculating about bt5, but with the p3d0 agenda being pushed heavily on them, the leapord/ cheetah print that they wear in their mv's and photoshoots, and s00bins sudden random love and him constantly mentioning bebe rexha, im getting second thoughts :(
 

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They are in deep and once on that level, how can they get out? Has anyone ever gotten out? Their escort status has always been obvious. The overseas trips, homoerotic pictures, the t-shirt, call me signals and that pic with Psy. Do you think they ever got tired of it? I'm reading old posts about Jimin's alcoholism. He drinks to get drunk as fast as possible. Sometimes survivors will abuse drugs or alcohol to feel better. Tae's sad demeanor can be another manifestation. So can Rm and Jk's desire to please. Those are dynamics seen in dysfunctional families.

The person who went to burning sun was a hyung. Tae was accused of being at a club with Han Seo hee. She got caught selling drugs. A lot of idols went down as a result of her confessions. There is a video on YouTube about Dispatch using Tae and Jk on their Instagram and twitter. The person said they might be trying to say something or doing it for clout. I don't doubt that they probably experimented when they were younger. It's a stretch to say that they're in a long term relationship. There was one exposed in another group and admitted to by the members. Once they went solo, their new company denied it. They probably have a graveyard in their closet.
what do you mean by the overseas trips? are you talking about the one's during their b0n voyage trips? I remember for their one in malta, t@e had to stay in sk for a bit i believe but i couldnt remember why... i think y00ngi had to leave too after some episodes
 
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you know after that survey a lot of the members became even more fake, for example RM became this clumsy guy, it was said it this thread that his clumsy acts are all an exageration, they are acting in those RUN shows

It's the same with the ships, because they know what ship is more popular

I have to say I'm shocked they are still a complete group after all these years
at this point most popular groups already lost a member or at least had a scandal

The fact that BTS remains super clean is very strange, of course their goverment ties makes the media protect them , for example Dispatch
I wonder how long will this last? they don't enlist, their have no competition and no scandals, and BH keeps buying all small companies in kpop.
By this point, Nj has to hate playing the clown. I heard he's depressed because the song that got them Grammy nominated was written by foreigners in English. He's put his heart into bts, and nothing he did paid off overseas. Despite his English skills, writing and intensity, they couldn't get a hit in Korean. There was a post about their longevity. None of the groups they debuted with are still around. Even their sunbaenim have enlisted or disbanded. The company will pump them until they're not needed. Then discard, deny any knowledge of wrongdoing and deprive them of any help.
I've always seen mainstream A-level singers either fully enjoy what they are doing or become heavily drug addicted out of misery, but that also mostly they have spoiled money to waste on. It would be interesting to know what exactly is in that contract that keeps them in never ending cycle. People on defense services, doctor and more people risk their life to save others altho in return they get little comparing to celebrities. If they really had any intention to show the ultimate truth of the industry and excatly what they are promoting, long term damage, they would do it, they have numerous followers. There is a saying in programming(CSE), "every system has hole/bug in it". Only expert hackers can solve no matter how much impossible that is. If there is really any way out only they can know from their position

About T4e, I thought he was acting on MAMA 2018 on stage cause he wouldn't have nothing else to do without beetes. But now looking back to that I believe he really wanted to disband. He was always cheerful from debut but after his grandma died, his personality turned total 180 and never was like before again. And day by day he is becoming more miserable. AFAIK he is the only one in the group who has already acted outside beetes and had so much interest on other skills, but now he has become a lazy head. I had read a story where mouse were keep running in a wheel to get a food on the top but after sometime they got tired of it and stop trying. Maybe the same happenedwith t4e. But nowadays they are unstoppable; and this will remain till they win gr4mmy.

And its hard to imagine they and bang will ever be exposed. They literally got government and president in their back even making new rule about army. Its only possible if someone else takes the risk outside dispatch and their cycle.
At this point, no one is going to expose BH and btees. They're unstoppable and we can't get them to go away. They're everywhere, even on YouTube ads.

He was so motivated, and a happier person. The loss of his grandfather took a lot out of him. Someone said they also considered disbanding because Dispatch was going to expose them. With this level of fame, I don't doubt that someone would kill to maintain it. It's speculated that Jonghyun was killed by his connection to a female madame. I can look it up if you're interested in reading about her? She's a lot like Epstein and procured prostitutes for the industry. There is a trail of bodies behind her. Anyone who tries to expose her ends up dead.

yeah ive been seeing some weird vibes from j k as well... the way he acts is sometimes so weird. After reading all the things you guys have said, it's got me thinking, what do you guys think about the stories of t ex t getting into the company? i dont see any of their audition videos either.... Some of the members said that their parents were not happy with them choosing to become idols, and i believe s00bin dropped out of highschool to become a trainee and his family was pissed or something like that. However it sounds alot like bt5's story, where there parents also opposed the idea of them becoming an idol. on soompi it said that Yoongi's parents opposed to his choice of becoming an idol at first because it was their way to look after their son. Since they suffered a lot, they wanted their children to have a stable life by working an office job. But after reading what you guys said it's really surprised me.i know especially the "worked their way up" was a lie because their sucesss was planned from the beginning, but for some reason i thought they all came from poor families
And I assume most, if not all of the t ex t members come from rich families/ families that are well off. After reading all the things you guys have said, I get the feeling that they were born into this industry, especially hu3ning ka1 and ye0njun. In one mtv interview where they were making pizza, t@ehyun said that they were born to do music... and Be0mgyu used to talk about how he was starting to feel depressed and not knowing who he is anymore, and I felt bad for him and it made sense knowing the industry they are in and how young they still are, but now again after reading what you guys are saying, he's starting to sound alot like t@e, and I can't tell if its genuinley him speaking about his feelings or their company pulling the victim card again :( And i really dont want to believe they were passed around/ serviced like i see you guys speculating about bt5, but with the p3d0 agenda being pushed heavily on them, the leapord/ cheetah print that they wear in their mv's and photoshoots, and s00bins sudden random love and him constantly mentioning bebe rexha, im getting second thoughts :(
I would be angry if my child became an idol. Years of sacrifice, paying for education and hoping they make something of their lives wasted. Just so they can go play with toys and act gay. Has anyone seen Suga's parents? I wonder if they're still upset or have become closer with their son.

The juniors are heavily influenced by their Sunbaenim. They have the boys acting more gay, sexual and ridiculous, sooner than btees. Do you know if Soobin went back to school? He's so out of it and unaware during interviews. Why is he chasing Bebe? Would it be since Tae sat near her at the 2018 BBMAS? She really liked Tae and he's one of their managers.
what do you mean by the overseas trips? are you talking about the one's during their b0n voyage trips? I remember for their one in malta, t@e had to stay in sk for a bit i believe but i couldnt remember why... i think y00ngi had to leave too after some episodes
After debut, they were taking trips to Thailand, Brazil, the United States, Europe and Dubai. I heard their room in Dubai was expensive. The hotel was a luxury upscale place. There's a lot of sex trafficking in the gulf states. They were very young and I put the dots together.
Yes they are passed around way too much. Heres a rm admiitting the "wild side" :D
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I didn't consider them way too poor or way too rich except jin. But tbh none of them looks born in the industry. Yes there have been many predictions or signs we have got from their mvs that looks preplanned, but what if they were getting ideas from their past mvs? Bang always used shady ways to go top. They wouldn't be singing against government from debut if they were that planned. Their predictive programming started from INU and with bst they suddenly blew up not only korea but also america, that don't happen when you work honestly unless you got smokescreen your back.

And releasing audition clip isn't necessary or obligatory for any company. If they find someones audition worth enough to be cheered up they will do otherwise they will hide it. They provided jks clip cause armys would be mothering him anyhow how baby he was, but AFAIK t4e did rap in his audition, maybe sth else too and debuted as vocal artist, you understand how embarassing it would be for the company to show it publicly? Also its out of context to accept someone only for his looks, and we can see the effect now, his voice is degrading day by day, I only hear blow of air now. Idrk is this the company who don't train him or he is the lazy one...



And whatever image we see of them thats for marketing purpose. A few days ago bh uploaded one of his pictures with tops/crystals on his cheek, idk which guy who likes to grow mustache would be uploading it. This is the soft version they feed army. Their real manly side will drop income. Atleast this is what I learned, as long as they are in front of camera, they are acting continuously.
Their butts have to look like the Holland Tunnel as much as they've been blasted through. A lot of army acknowledge that Tae can't rap. He was cute and someone saw his potential. I hope that's as far as it went, but who knows. He dressed as a drag queen when he was little, and his 4D side is more gay than weird. I can't speak on his sexuality but he has gay tendencies. A predator would sniff out a child with abandonment issues a mile away. A child with abandonment issues, gay tendencies and unsupervised? I wonder if he had a chance.

Some Armys found girls in their videos. Sometimes they do things to redirect attention. If it was staff, they would know better. Although maybe they're interacting with them for attention. I can't watch more than a few minutes of their shows. It's so repetitive and phoney.
 

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The juniors are heavily influenced by their Sunbaenim. They have the boys acting more gay, sexual and ridiculous, sooner than btees. Do you know if Soobin went back to school? He's so out of it and unaware during interviews. Why is he chasing Bebe? Would it be since Tae sat near her at the 2018 BBMAS? She really liked Tae and he's one of their managers.
i believe s00bin dropped out and got his GED. He now attends global cyber university like bt5
 
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