BTS discussion thread

lauren_xox · Sep 19, 2020

It's been a while since I was on this thread. I don't think anyone remembers me lol, but I was reading a netizen buzz article about Bighit gathering IT employees and positioning itself to be a company that incorporates a lot of IT stuff. Some people were interpreting it as them veering into becoming solely IT-focused though to keep their corporate heads happy because they sure as hell won't be able to maintain the growth that BTS gave them once BTS enlists or if they don't renew. TXT isn't a flop by any means, but they aren't as popular as BTS and aren't likely to be. BTS was a bit of an anomaly in terms of popularity for K-pop in the West, they've kind of eaten up all the possible market share and K-pop really can't get more popular than this in the West unless the general public suddenly starts stanning Jungkook or something, which they won't, so this is the peak. I think Bighit is in for a massive correction event after BTS. They can't stay this profitable without BTS so they'll coast on profits and speculation based off past glory for a few years post-BTS, then they'll decline, then plateau to their new normal to reflect the profitability of their actual current talent like TXT and the new girl group they'll be having soon.

I also read a few pages back. I see things haven't gotten any better with Taehyung. I really think that if nothing happens to him, he'll be the first to leave. Even if he's not being mistreated, I don't think he is mentally handling the challenges of fame very well. If we disregard his insistence that his change in personality was "just growing up" and realize it as a prolonged depressed mood caused by episodes of depression (and we can kind of assume that given the way he's been acting with random outbursts of crying) and pair that with him complaining about how people don't see him as Taehyung, only as V, I think we can, without seeming like we're assuming based on blind faith, kind of agree that he does not seem to like fame. I've said it before but if Tae leaves or something happens to him or BTS as a whole I feel like the floodgates will kind of open and any news company or sasaeng that has a vendetta against Bighit will end up releasing what they have.

somewhat_yuna · Sep 19, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
Please pray! your prayer will be answered. I really really think Bighit are doing something very evil. I am worried for BTS

Jonghyun left a lot of signs before he died

Sulli death scene in drama

V death scene in drama pt2 - Minho was also here

Taehyung scene in save me webtoon (this explains the universe storyline)

View attachment 42353
can you see the blood sprinkles on his chest - that is where he is stabbed in hwarang also he is tied up meaning trapped.... this was explaining the part where he goes to prison for murdering His abusive dad but it can have many interpretations to it

If they sacrifice him I will cry my eyes out. How are fans not connecting the dots? All of this is being repeated over and over again but no one except us seems to notice it. Maybe they aren't going to sacrifice him YET because they are milking his money along with his parents. Plus he does bring so much popularity to the group. I pray they don't sacrifice any of the members. They should honestly just take a break.

somewhat_yuna · Sep 19, 2020

lauren_xox said:
It's been a while since I was on this thread. I don't think anyone remembers me lol, but I was reading a netizen buzz article about Bighit gathering IT employees and positioning itself to be a company that incorporates a lot of IT stuff. Some people were interpreting it as them veering into becoming solely IT-focused though to keep their corporate heads happy because they sure as hell won't be able to maintain the growth that BTS gave them once BTS enlists or if they don't renew. TXT isn't a flop by any means, but they aren't as popular as BTS and aren't likely to be. BTS was a bit of an anomaly in terms of popularity for K-pop in the West, they've kind of eaten up all the possible market share and K-pop really can't get more popular than this in the West unless the general public suddenly starts standing Jungkook or something, which they won't, so this is the peak. I think Bighit is in for a massive correction event after BTS. They can't stay this profitable without BTS so they'll coast on profits and speculation based off past glory for a few years post-BTS, then they'll decline, then plateau to their new normal to reflect the profitability of their actual current talent like TXT and the new girl group they'll be having soon.

I also read a few pages back. I see things haven't gotten any better with Taehyung. I really think that if nothing happens to him, he'll be the first to leave. Even if he's not being mistreated, I don't think he is mentally handling the challenges of fame very well. If we disregard his insistence that his change in personality was "just growing up" and realize it as a prolonged depressed mood caused by episodes of depression (and we can kind of assume that given the way he's been acting with random outbursts of crying) and pair that with him complaining about how people don't see him as Taehyung, only as V, I think we can, without seeming like we're assuming based on blind faith, kind of agree that he does not seem to like fame. I've said it before but if Tae leaves or something happens to him or BTS as a whole I feel like the floodgates will kind of open and any news company or sasaeng that has a vendetta against Bighit will end up releasing what they have.

I've never discussed with you before but I remember you from when I was reading the posts as a lurker. Glad you're back!

lauren_xox · Sep 19, 2020

Does anyone know if @Door (I think was her name) still posts here? I remember telling her about parasocial fan-artist relationships to explain ARMYs obsessive nature towards BTS and talking about a video essay I'd show her on the topic by a youtuber. At the time though, I wasn't able to show her this video because the youtuber in question deleted it (and her whole channel) due to mental health reasons, but now it's back up.

Fujiko · Sep 19, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
Please pray! your prayer will be answered. I really really think Bighit are doing something very evil. I am worried for BTS

Jonghyun left a lot of signs before he died

Sulli death scene in drama

V death scene in drama pt2 - Minho was also here

Taehyung scene in save me webtoon (this explains the universe storyline)

View attachment 42353
can you see the blood sprinkles on his chest - that is where he is stabbed in hwarang also he is tied up meaning trapped.... this was explaining the part where he goes to prison for murdering His abusive dad but it can have many interpretations to it

Sulli scene is horrible...i never saw this drama..and Taehyung Save me scene is horrible too...who did this webtoon??I have no words,horrible very horrible i am shocked

Fujiko · Sep 19, 2020

Kathyyy said:
I think the webtoon is from b1gh1t itself.

Yes it's from Bighit
I can't understand the final of the story...Jin died to avoid that Tae kills his father,but the time goes back again...so nothing solved...Jin can't do anything for saving the others?And how they explain that also Tae could do dreams about members?

Openso15t · Sep 19, 2020

Fujiko · Sep 20, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
Bighit did the webtoon

if they do something to taehyung, not only will it affect BTS popularity (without Tae they will lose a lot of fans) but it would have very damaging impacts like @somewhat_yuna said to their fans . It would really break their hearts just like Shawols. That is very scary to think about

i couldn’t read through this because it would hurt too much but this is very very very sick. No wonder they killed Paul Walker when he tried to show everyone the truth. Same with Isaac Kappy.... these deaths were to silence them. It’s absolutely disgusting

It’s so nice to see you again @lauren_xox. I remember you!!. Thanks for the post

Yes it will be a ruin for Bts,and even if Bang wants money and his favourite is Jk the most popular and appreciated is Taehyung.
But really the webtoon is strange
About pedos i can't read it too...i watched videos about pizzagate and i am very very horrified.The video with The rock joking about eating children and with reference to pedo was very very shocking...i skipped Marina abramovic part because it is revolting

queen82 · Sep 20, 2020

Fujiko said:
Sulli scene is horrible...i never saw this drama..and Taehyung Save me scene is horrible too...who did this webtoon??I have no words,horrible very horrible i am shocked

sometimes they predicted their deaths with those scenes, nothing is a coincidence anymore to me

ShiningCarat14 · Sep 20, 2020

Basically just ignoring him literally...
if he was the leader like everyone said here this wouldn’t be a problem...... Jhope and Suga have a lot of authority

queen82 · Sep 20, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
Basically just ignoring him literally...
if he was the leader like everyone said here this wouldn’t be a problem...... Jhope and Suga have a lot of authority

why he didn't just leave the group like other members of other bands do like Robbie Williams _ Take That ; Camila Cabello _ Fifth Harmony and Zayn Malik - One Directions, this is really sad ..

Fujiko · Sep 20, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
Basically just ignoring him literally...
if he was the leader like everyone said here this wouldn’t be a problem...... Jhope and Suga have a lot of authority

They treated him in a bad way...this is horrible...i saw on Run bts that they didn't took him seriously...but this very disrepectful....he is the most talented and the best of them but he is not the leader

Honey · Sep 20, 2020

queen82 said:
why he didn't just leave the group like other members of other bands do like Robbie Williams _ Take That ; Camila Cabello _ Fifth Harmony and Zayn Malik - One Directions, this is really sad ..

Cause he can't, they will never ever let him, he's the x factor member, he is the Money machine, without him fandom will be half and he has the most solo fans and attention he brings! Bighit is aware of it and will never let him get out at any cost!

Fujiko · Sep 20, 2020

queen82 said:
sometimes they predicted their deaths with those scenes, nothing is a coincidence anymore to me

It is very difficult understand when it is a prediction and when not...but for example with Jjong they started years ago...and there are a lot of hints about it

ShiningCarat14 · Sep 20, 2020

KTH1 Lyrics Analysis
Spoiler 1:
“The worst was given to me from the heart of the loveless” - I think he’s talking about the devil here and how he got the worse deal out of fame

“I play the games fixed the puzzles, although I’m missing pieces” - he is continuing on this BTS journey even though he’s not sure where it will head him or what even is going on

“And it looks Like my life is just perfect, but behind the smile it hurts me” - he is not the persona they give him, he’s finding it difficult but he needs to fake it for the public

“I’m trying to save my love, saving myself with an umbrella” - saving his soul perhaps?

Spoiler 2:
“Where’s my angel? I’m sick and tired of everything” I think here he is talking about being protected. He feels he has no one to guide him. He used to talk a lot about having angels... I really think he’s a moonchild so as a child probably he didn’t even know what Satanism was and they probably told him the demons were the angels. So now when he understands he is saying he’s afraid because it was a lie. He’s sick of this life and this fame

“Someone come and save myself, cause I can’t take it anymore.” This is self explanatory

“Everywhere I go, everywhere I see, (everytime I cry everytime I smile) can you look at me cause I’m blue and grey” he’s trying to tell everyone that he’s depressed

“I just wanna be happier, baby please don’t let me go” I think he’s talking to himself. Telling himself to be stronger

“I feel tired in the winter sky, wish I could be stronger” feelings of self hate. If he is the weeping child... they are always getting their orders from their handlers wrong and messing up... not adapting to the mind control. He wishes he could be stronger to face his mind control or even leave... I think he’s very afraid.

queen82 said:
why he didn't just leave the group like other members of other bands do like Robbie Williams _ Take That ; Camila Cabello _ Fifth Harmony and Zayn Malik - One Directions, this is really sad ..

I don’t know why he didn’t leave in 2018 like he wanted to.... I think they must have bribed him.... I wonder if they only allow certain people to leave

they need him... without Taehyung BTS would be really affected. Taehyung is the member everyone notices. He’s the one with the most unique voice in all ok Kpop (after hwarang, a lot of companies from the big3 too like sm wanted him but he stuck to Bighit), he’s very popular and he’s got this charm a lot of the others don’t possess. I don’t know what it is about him but he’s special in a way...jimin is a copy of taemin and Kai, jk has the same breathy tone as nearly every singer but Tae he’s so different. Not a lot of people have what he has and that’s why he’s a gem by the elite ... he can’t be easily replaced

Fujiko · Sep 20, 2020

Honey said:
Cause he can't, they will never ever let him, he's the x factor member, he is the Money machine, without him fandom will be half and he has the most solo fans and attention he brings! Bighit is aware of it and will never let him get out at any cost!

Do you think it is the same with Jonghyun?That's why he didn't left the group and take a break??They needed him?

Honey · Sep 20, 2020

Lostgirl said:
Hey guys!
Sorry for interjecting but I just wanted to expand on this.
As Muslims, we don't actually know whether Non-Muslims go to heaven or hell. We assume that we don't know what is in their hearts as only God is aware of this and can judge them.
Allah evaluates the life and deeds of each person on an individual basis. This is not only limited to faith.
Here is a video for more information

"And for those who disbelieved in their Lord is the punishment of Hell, and wretched is the destination. When they are thrown into it, they hear from it a [dreadful] inhaling while it boils up. It almost bursts with rage. Every time a company is thrown into it, its keepers ask them, "Did there not come to you a warner?" They will say," Yes, a warner had come to us, but we denied and said, ' Allah has not sent down anything. You are not but in great error.' " And they will say, "If only we had been listening or reasoning, we would not be among the companions of the Blaze." And they will admit their sin, so [it is] alienation for the companions of the Blaze. (Quran 67:6–11)

Honey · Sep 20, 2020

Fujiko said:
Do you think it is the same with Jonghyun?That's why he didn't left the group and take a break??They needed him?

I do believe its the same, they Don't give a break, its either they keep you for money or they sacrifice you for money and power, its crazy how these idols are treated like that, ceos Don't care about the idols, all they need is cash out of them its so inhuman!

SHinEeHeaven · Sep 20, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
The lyrics to this song are so strange. It’s called even if I die it’s you, Taehyung dies in Hwarang. I’m not implying anything but kdramas are also satanic, also a lot of fans including me when we watched this scene felt so emotional. Even now when I watched it back I teared it is very weird... I never felt such sadness the way I felt it the first time I watched it. I cried so much and Taehyungs acting made it very realistic. I hope this was just a movie concept.

What else I find weird is he wore a similar outfit to Jonghyun in 2018 mama awards. Jonghyun wore the same colour in the music video that was released after his death View attachment 42350 and V wore red which is the colour of sacrifice. His new mixtape has the same vibe of Jongs View attachment 42349
I heard that they make you post things to tel you that if you mess up they will get you. Now when I think about how V posted about his dog being named after coal maybe it was to say “if you don’t shut up, we will do something to you too”. This was the MAMA 2018 show where he had the breakdown

Oh my they did the similar song thing With Jonghyun and Onew. They have a song called Please don’t Go and then Jong did go and left Onew It was weird to me that Onew had a scandal just before Jongs death (like a humiliation ritual) what if Jong and Onew were both rebelling or in danger just like both BTS and Jin are. Thanks for sending the song to me @Fujiko. Isn’t this song so similar to even if I die it’s you

The lyrics “don’t leave me” are the same
Even the aesthetics live to thee songs are so similar:

https://youtu.be/OEDM93B_uJc

I’m probs far reaching but this is so creepy

its sooo obvious for me....if anything...its JIN in danger...don't worry...Taehyung are so safe...he is the one leading all sacrifices, they won't sacrifice him...even if you look at the second picture, the second one is the one who is in danger, Jin is in the second picture

if anyone still have doubt about that, read lyrics Jin awake, its their in our faces..he says its his fate and he accepted it

I don't think the Illuminati would sacrifice more than one member in BTS...I think its just one member, which means the other are safe

Honey · Sep 20, 2020

ShiningCarat14 said:
I disagree with you... we don’t know who will be sacrificed. If it will be Tae, Jin, JK (they are the ones from the mv symbolisms who seem to be in danger) Yes Jin has death symbolism in awake but so does Suga in many of his songs... you have to look at multiple factors not just one song... I studied the storyline, their lyrics, their behaviours a lot, and this is what I got. Sometimes the elite trick the masses and they reverser good and evil... so taehyung May seem like the opposite to Jin but maybe he’s not

I don’t think Taehyung leads The group at all lol. There is a lot of evidence for this, including him breaking down from his programming multiple times, his possible depression, him actually wanted to leave the group in 2018. There is much more. He’s not in charge of sacrifices either. I asked a YouTuber who knows a lot about the occult about Taes grandmas death and she said that she doesnt think Tae had a say in his grandmas death. The elite decide who they kill because they have to be religiously linked and fit the gemetria. One of Jins grandparents also passed and Jonghyuns death wasn’t just for V, it was for superM, BTS and the whole industry. someone here told me that Key Talked about Jongs death in an interview.... so they knew their team member would be killed... it could link to taemin... his symbolism is very very occultic. I felt sick when I watched criminal

What picture are you talking about. I know you and some other members don’t like taehyung, but this is what my analysis showed. I am not saying for a fact he will die, but the fact that he died in hwarang protecting his friend (what if Jin was the initial sacrifice and Tae jumps in instead). Sulli also dies in a bathtub in the drama with blood then she commits “suicide”. In the drama someone close to her kills her. Goo hara before she died was sleeping in a bathtub.... the fact that they chose V to die out of all the cast isn’t a coincidence. The fact that they made him dress in all red at mama having a breakdown isn’t a coincidence either.....

But I already know that you don’t like Tae and believe he’s the most evil so I will respect your opinion my friend

Same i agree with you, its not in any members hand who will be sacrificed, its chosen by the elites,members can't do nothing about it, and also i Don't think jungs death is Related to v, if anyone’s benefits from it is SM and Their artists, also for years i read many deep analysis about jin being sacrificed but i Dont agree with it anymore i feel like we are being misguided and it could be another member, tae is the possible member that comes in my mind~

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