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just in time...right back in korea for his kookie birthday
You say damage control?
this hypocrite! he is trying so hard to make people forget about his scandal using kook birthday, and guess since ratarmy are blind and brainwashed it's working. I saw many people mocking jikook shipper that jm is spending time in club forjk birthday, he probably saw it all and use it as a cover
 

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I'm sure 100% that's Jamal. The only differences between that two pictures are make up (obviously he's wearing to much make up in the first pic) shirt, and the channel necklace lmaoo :D
Regarding the Chanel necklace -- do the fans not know that he has a contract with them to wear their stuff? If he is truly out on his own -- not a PR thing -- maybe he doesn't want to wear the necklace because he doesn't actually like it. Maybe he only has it on ALL the time in PR photos because Chanel paid him to do that. The fact that he isn't wearing it in the video does NOT prove or even provide reasonable doubt that this is a fake JM. Maybe only JM's "persona" likes Chanel. Maybe real life JM hates it.
 

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Regarding the Chanel necklace -- do the fans not know that he has a contract with them to wear their stuff? If he is truly out on his own -- not a PR thing -- maybe he doesn't want to wear the necklace because he doesn't actually like it. Maybe he only has it on ALL the time in PR photos because Chanel paid him to do that. The fact that he isn't wearing it in the video does NOT prove or even provide reasonable doubt that this is a fake JM. Maybe only JM's "persona" likes Chanel. Maybe real life JM hates it.
Not denying that they have contracts, but it is more likely that he didn’t want to bring attention to himself when going out to get wasted in a club or pub somewhere. The average person doesn’t sport luxury brands like that and anyone who does will stick out like an eyesore. It could get dangerous when you are really drunk, especially in big cities at night, you could get robbed and for him, higher chance of getting recognized.
 
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I hate that he always steal attention from the other guys! Are you honestly telling me that he couldn't wait to go to Paris until jk's birthday? He could've but he couldn't let that happen. If you go on Instagram there a lot of the picture he posted and everything now is tagged #jamal#jikook#birthday. It's no longer about jk it's all about how he left his good vacation for jk so selfish! And he's definitely trying to do damage control but I don't think there's a need the fans are far to up their asses to notice that.
 

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look here:


in the picture they made it obvious to put all the presents on display
the clothes are from paris...same with that musical box that can only be buy there (again related to the nightmare before christmass movie)


they know fans analyse all the pictures so they do it on purposse.....now it's all about Jamal going to paris and bringing presents to his "boyfriend"...nobody remebers the club part o_O

gotta give him to Jamal...he is a clever snake
 
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look here:


in the picture they made it obvious to put all the presents on display
the clothes are from paris...same with that muscal box that can only be buy there (again related to the nighmare before christmass movie)


they know fans analyse all the pictures so they do it on purposse.....now it's all about Jamal going to paris and bringing presents to his "boyfriend"...nobody remebers the club part o_O

gotta give him to Jamal...he is a clever snake
i... i can't believe he is such a manipulator, o_O he probably brought it it after the club thing bc he knew he fucked up.
I literally thought jikooker gonna be sad/ give up on their ship, but it became worst
 

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i... i can't believe he is such a manipulator, o_O he probably brought it it after the club thing bc he knew he fucked up.
I literally thought jikooker gonna be sad/ give up on their ship, but it became worst
yep, jikookers are rejoicing right now
Especially because Jamal made it clear the main competition (Tea) was not present at the party

he is so lucky the scandal happened right before JK's birthday...I knew big hit was going to use that for cover
 

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look here:


in the picture they made it obvious to put all the presents on display
the clothes are from paris...same with that musical box that can only be buy there (again related to the nightmare before christmass movie)


they know fans analyse all the pictures so they do it on purposse.....now it's all about Jamal going to paris and bringing presents to his "boyfriend"...nobody remebers the club part o_O

gotta give him to Jamal...he is a clever snake

I don't necessarily think that this is Jimin's doing. He might not have even posted that tweet. Everyone who had access to their account could have written that.
Let me speculate for a bit. It looks like he was on vacation, and if he is anything like your average Asian tourist, he will do several locations in Europe instead of just one. Especially since they have so little free time.
So, as a normal person, if your vacation happens during your friend's birthday, what would you do? Buy presents beforehand, so that that friend can open them on their birthday most of the time. Just because that stuff is from Paris doesn't prove that he bought it during this trip. They were in Paris just a few months ago. And you can get almost everything online, even more so if you are a celebrity. How would someone as popular as Jimin enter a location full of young people like Disneyland unnoticed? In my opinion, that is almost impossible.

So my guess what happened: BH learned about the video and became really scared. Girls, bars, alcohol? Big no-nos.
So they either divert attention by pretending that Jimin is back in Korea while he is still in Europe. Throw the fans off.
Or, and this is in my opinion more likely: cut his vacation short, told him he had to get on the next available flight and then prepare everything. You can get a flight on short notice, especially if you have money. Put up the picture to pretend that he went back just for Jungkook and then lock him in the basement for punishment.

Edit: The "Paris exclusive" Music box is available online. It is a valuable collector's item and pretty rare. I could not find a new edition.
Right now one is being sold on yahoo.
http://yahoo.aleado.com/lot?auctionID=l508187041
 
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I don't necessarily think that this is Jimin's doing. He might not have even posted that tweet. Everyone who had access to their account could have written that.
Let me speculate for a bit. It looks like he was on vacation, and if he is anything like your average Asian tourist, he will do several locations in Europe instead of just one. Especially since they have so little free time.
So, as a normal person, if your vacation happens during your friend's birthday, what would you do? Buy presents beforehand, so that that friend can open them on their birthday most of the time. Just because that stuff is from Paris doesn't prove that he bought it during this trip. They were in Paris just a few months ago. And you can get almost everything online, even more so if you are a celebrity. How would someone as popular as Jimin enter a location full of young people like Disneyland unnoticed? In my opinion, that is almost impossible.

So my guess what happened: BH learned about the video and became really scared. Girls, bars, alcohol? Big no-nos.
So they either divert attention by pretending that Jimin is back in Korea while he is still in Europe. Throw the fans off.
Or, and this is in my opinion more likely: cut his vacation short, told him he had to get on the next available flight and then prepare everything. You can get a flight on short notice, especially if you have money. Put up the picture to pretend that he went back just for Jungkook and then lock him in the basement for punishment.
I won't be surprised if he gets reprogrammed and his hair color changes so quickly :/
 

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I don't necessarily think that this is Jimin's doing. He might not have even posted that tweet. Everyone who had access to their account could have written that.
Let me speculate for a bit. It looks like he was on vacation, and if he is anything like your average Asian tourist, he will do several locations in Europe instead of just one. Especially since they have so little free time.
So, as a normal person, if your vacation happens during your friend's birthday, what would you do? Buy presents beforehand, so that that friend can open them on their birthday most of the time. Just because that stuff is from Paris doesn't prove that he bought it during this trip. They were in Paris just a few months ago. And you can get almost everything online, even more so if you are a celebrity. How would someone as popular as Jimin enter a location full of young people like Disneyland unnoticed? In my opinion, that is almost impossible.

So my guess what happened: BH learned about the video and became really scared. Girls, bars, alcohol? Big no-nos.
So they either divert attention by pretending that Jimin is back in Korea while he is still in Europe. Throw the fans off.
Or, and this is in my opinion more likely: cut his vacation short, told him he had to get on the next available flight and then prepare everything. You can get a flight on short notice, especially if you have money. Put up the picture to pretend that he went back just for Jungkook and then lock him in the basement for punishment.
oh I have no doubts BH told him to take the next flight and take his ass home....using JK as an excuse because that is his most popular ship
And Basically dressing JK in paris clothes and surrounded by presents from Paris (not subtle)

The tweet saying "I feel so good to see you after so many days".... damage control and promoting the most popular ship, as expected from BH
 
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I don't necessarily think that this is Jimin's doing. He might not have even posted that tweet. Everyone who had access to their account could have written that.
Let me speculate for a bit. It looks like he was on vacation, and if he is anything like your average Asian tourist, he will do several locations in Europe instead of just one. Especially since they have so little free time.
So, as a normal person, if your vacation happens during your friend's birthday, what would you do? Buy presents beforehand, so that that friend can open them on their birthday most of the time. Just because that stuff is from Paris doesn't prove that he bought it during this trip. They were in Paris just a few months ago. And you can get almost everything online, even more so if you are a celebrity. How would someone as popular as Jimin enter a location full of young people like Disneyland unnoticed? In my opinion, that is almost impossible.

So my guess what happened: BH learned about the video and became really scared. Girls, bars, alcohol? Big no-nos.
So they either divert attention by pretending that Jimin is back in Korea while he is still in Europe. Throw the fans off.
Or, and this is in my opinion more likely: cut his vacation short, told him he had to get on the next available flight and then prepare everything. You can get a flight on short notice, especially if you have money. Put up the picture to pretend that he went back just for Jungkook and then lock him in the basement for punishment.

Edit: The "Paris exclusive" Music box is available online. It is a valuable collector's item and pretty rare. I could not find a new edition.
Right now one is being sold on yahoo.
http://yahoo.aleado.com/lot?auctionID=l508187041
100% sure he is still in Paris, he sent the video wishing JK a happy birthday and said "let's have a drink" if you were gonna see him the next day, why would you send him a let us have a drink later and toast (since it is a surprise he "flew back to Korea"). Plus, some stalkers found him again in a bar yesterday meaning a flight back to Korea was 11-13 hours and this (JK birthday post with gifts) was posted too early for his "bday" with the time changes. Either way, he is a great manipulator and probably got help from Bigshit to clear up this craphole. Wasn't Bighit the one that probably stringed them to go to Disneyland in Tokyo together to go along with the shipping thing. Oh and last time I checked Supreme is Hobi's thing and Jack Skellington is Jm's thing (signature). ANyways, that might just be BH's office space or Hobi's space and BH just added JM message to the twitter while he rejoices in Paris. Most likely that is why JM is posing alone and no other pics with the group or team are present. Just my theory. If he were to buy that exclusive Item in disneyland I assure you the amount of stalking in Paris inside DL would've been crazy. Seems like those gifts were for themselves and not JK to clean up some drama lol!
 

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So the girl who flicked the finger got JM French friend's number and they had a whole convo, which means he was just asking for more info for maybe services since she is the one that started the whole convo as to meet later. Peep her background lmao... The guy later says that JM is leaving to Paris the next day hahahahaha. If it was just him trying to hang out why does he have to mention that his bff is travelling to Korea. Big BS alert! OH and this is just prob his friend texting her and translating everything to JM in Korean in person lol. Midway the girl texts him in Italian. So she knows idk how many languages lmao.

http://instagr.am/p/B14nbxJIZcr/
 
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So the girl who flicked the finger got JM French friend's number and they had a whole convo, which means he was just asking for more info for maybe services since she is the one that started the whole convo as to meet later. Peep her background lmao... The guy later says that JM is leaving to Paris the next day hahahahaha. If it was just him trying to hang out why does he have to mention that his bff is travelling to Korea. Big BS alert! OH and this is just prob his friend texting her and translating everything to JM in Korean in person lol. Midway the girl texts him in Italian. So she knows idk how many languages lmao.

http://instagr.am/p/B14nbxJIZcr/
Did you take screen shots? Was it the same girl as before (the suspect escort) or a different one? Because then our theory about JM and his gang using her and the boo dude for special services is correct. One thing: from the quality video the girl certainly looks like herIMO it is not a coincidence that they were hanging out in the first place. The whole we ran into them at the bar and happened to know some korean is complete BS. They probably had planned this beforehand or the escorts hang out in such places to find costumers.

Yeah about the languages: not strange. She is hispanic and spanish is her native tongue. Lives or grew up in France so obviously knows french. English is the default international language of the world and most people speak it. Italian is one of the romance languages like french, spanish and portugues, easy to learn for someone like her. I myself speak 4 languages because of similar circumstances. Not proof of being an escort. Her pictures and the other dude are more telling.

These tweets are saying he has been spottes in Paris and that pictures was sent to him by Hobo, so technically he didn’t lie, just shared a pic and said oh I haven’t seen your face. Hobi is there with the gang. He never said he himself was there. Makes sense the timing is way off.
 
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Did you take screen shots? Was it the same girl as before (the suspect escort) or a different one? Because then our theory about JM and his gang using her and the boo dude for special services is correct. One thing: from the quality video the girl certainly looks like herIMO it is not a coincidence that they were hanging out in the first place. The whole we ran into them at the bar and happened to know some korean is complete BS. They probably had planned this beforehand or the escorts hang out in such places to find costumers.
I dont know if @lightmightgirl translated anything

But I saw the word "service" several times...there were 3 different screenshots, and in the third one jamal friend used that word..
then both of them started to talk in italian..... I don't speak italian so have to wait for confirmation

but the way armies are working so hard to hide it tells me there is something more
 

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BH specifically telling Armii in that letter to avoid the members in public on their "break" and to protect their privacy must've been for this.

I mean, if they hadn't so directly said that, I bet half of the fans wouldn't be mass reporting the way they are, screeching about how they've been told to give them space.
 

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I feel Bad for k00k.. He didn't have the best of bdays even on his hiatus.. First everything was about j1min and then his fansite abused him... For not acknowledging his gifts.. They're surrounded by shady people...

It is not the first fansite to write hateful things about him, i wonder why, maybe he is a douche irl? One thing to remember: these fansites are all about business, they are not obsessed fans. They have a job and get payed in return. Many times they promote more than one idol. Essentially they work as PR machines releasing high quality photos and videos, birthday projects or whatnot. They are often supported by the companies themselves. Same with sasaengs, there is good money in that stuff, they are similar to paparazzis. I would assume many are even hired by companies like Dispatch or other media outlets disguised as obsessed fans. You know how much money they could recieve blackmailing these companies by threatening to spill dirt?

Anyhow: The timing for the release of this is very suspicious, maybe to deter from Jm’s scandal and once again make these idols look like the good guys...
 

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im sorry this is kind of off topic, but what do you guys think about JKs new song. i just want to know your opinions.
hes talking about himself here and hes admitting he is not his real self on screen and wants to be that JK. its depressing
Most of them are singing the same thing.. Aren't they...?
RM in pers0na
H0b1 in Daydream
Jk in new song..
All of them in fake love..
 
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