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Most victims of grooming sometimes don't even realize they are victims but grow up to be very confused, very sexually perversed, oversexualized, and have no inhibitions.

On that note a plenty of straight men have gay sex or recieve sexual favors, especially from male prostitutes so they won't feel guilty for it afterwards since they paid.
A lot of straight boys/men are also just "gay for pay"

Lastly want to add the only ones young enough for grooming in trainee years was maknae line. JM was almost kicked out many many times. Hyung line was old enough to make their own choices.

I'm not directing all this info towards B*S exactly but just sharing this info, take it & interpret as you guys want.

@deniiiiXD As for reporting drugs, I personally think it wouldn't be worth the time and effort. They are bringing a lot of money into their countries economy. Also I think their drug use is technically "legal". They are probably just being prescribed prescription drugs galore for whatever "ailment" they want EX: Adderall and other uppers for performance purposes, Xanax or other anxiety medication for stage fright and they are constantly surrounded by people, Depression medication bc most high level celebs like them become depressed esp being in a cycle of receiving an adrenaline kick from huge concerts and the lows soon after from going back to your hotel room alone, and Pain meds, plenty of alcohol, and sleeping meds. And you can receive opiates in the form of prescription drugs as well.

Don't worry too much about them bc we all have our fate written and we all have guardian angels. Don't spend too much energy trying to save them bc we don't know them and they are kinda unreachable. You might damage your own emotional well being trying to expend that energy towards them.
i agree with this post (stop caring too much abt them bc unless they rebel themselves with smthing we can do nothing idk how you do it i've lost hope in them long ago and i feel like God is not against it but that doesn't mean you can't feel pity towards them either )(sorry i'm bad with words lol you can hate me now )
(deni also it could put you a dangerous spot and even more bc you don't know them personally i'm scared for you plz take care )


(i will delete this probs later i know my opinions aren't very welcomed anywhere XD)
 

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This is why I am so sad about Bt$. They are just puppets and a bad influence. They are promoters of the New Age. As I said in one of my earlier posts, I think they have good intentions. I think they believe that they are doing something positive for this world, but we here know that the truth is another one.
Maybe some of them don't really agree with this, but being a celebrity means that they have to be politically correct all the time, so they don't lose their fans,which is tiring.
But I am losing my respect for them day by day, because they are just like everybody else. Nothing special. When I first discovered them I thought they were different, I thought they would be a positive influence, but no. They are just brainwashed puppets and I hope that at least one of them realises that they are just being used.
As you said, in your country being homophobic is considered a big crime. I noticed this also in the music industry. If you don't agree with this community you are automatically considered problematic, a sh*t etc. How can people call someone like this?
Siwon from S. Jun!0r is considered problematic, because of this. Ikon is considered problematic because of this. I also read a comment in which someone said bad things about Cardi b. because she is "transphobic"(Idk when this word was created).
And those who support this community are seen as superheroes and the most incredible human beings who exists on this planet. Please... Ariana G. is praised for being tolerant. I hope she wakes up some day. And this community gets too much attentions anyway, like they are some superheroes, some sort of Messiah who saves the world. There are people who really need more attention. I know I might sound like a horrible person for some people who don't know me, and I am sorry if people will misunderstand me, but my intention is not to offend or drag people down. I know being in this situation is not easy, but fighting for your "rights" is not the best thing to do in this situation. Living like this is normal and even benefic is wrong. We can't just stay silent while people are destroying themselves. I know that there are healing for everybody.
But there are also more things that have to be changed, not only this. And I think even hereosexuals need to learn to be more normal, because being straight is not enough. Now people praise themselves for watching porn, like wtf? As this is a very honorable thing. There was a time, not long ago when people were terrified if someone knew that they were doing this, and now they are praising themselves and the others who do the same.
And their dear ArMy would start hating them if they dare to say that they don't agree with the community or if they accidentally say something considered offensive. I hope they will have the courage to be themselves and to speak their minds some day without being afraid of losing their fans, not just be fawners their entire life. I talked more than I thought. Sorry.
so true !!!!

(sorry i'm on a roll rn )
(you can hate me bc i speak too much XD )



idk how much time i got left on here bc i have to see doctors,abt studies and stuff like that so i'll spam you guys a bit before i'm gone and also wishing you all good luck (also scared everyone will know one day and attack me but i trust God so )
 
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yeah probably Jimin or V, they are both the most openly flirty and Jimin is.....something else. I cant imagine him saying NO to anyone.

And talking about him I will share this video


This constant need for attention is not normal for an adult like him...his childlike personality mixed with his sexual fanservice is a disturbing combination
bc he has no self-confidence and perfectionism at the same time so it's another dangerous combinatiion (ugh idk why i bother i hope i will be gone from internet soon )
 

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Tbh this isn't really a popular theory. It's just how i interpret it. I notice how cautious look jk around tae. And try to not being close to him.
http://instagr.am/p/Bon9n3qnFwi/ here Jk wanted to go through namjoon and tae. Namjoon was ready to make space for jk but Tae hold namjoon hand. http://instagr.am/p/Bjj7XezlRwh/ seem like he doesn't want to sit next to him
http://instagr.am/p/BjSUjN1lFNr/ that seem like fake smile
http://instagr.am/p/BjR_pjmFOMw/ read the comment but it might be people been delulu.
http://instagr.am/p/BjSlWaMlpbC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BjR4SyulrgE/
to me, it look like jk didn't want to be next to tae and interact with them. Tae wanted to show some fanservice bc he is a good actor but jk isn't. Don't take it seriously it just my opinion and it might be obv fake
Thanks for sharing but tbh I can't see what you see hahaha, these look like normal interactions and you're just reading into them and making it out to be something it's not
But it's good to have an eye open and analyse!
 

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i agree with this post (stop caring too much abt them bc unless they rebel themselves with smthing we can do nothing idk how you do it i've lost hope in them long ago and i feel like God is not against it but that doesn't mean you can't feel pity towards them either )(sorry i'm bad with words lol you can hate me now )
(deni also it could put you a dangerous spot and even more bc you don't know them personally i'm scared for you plz take care )


(i will delete this probs later i know my opinions aren't very welcomed anywhere XD)
I respect your opinion pls don't delete <3
 

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But have you watched k00kies reaction of Normani Love Lies.....he seems reallly enjoy the performence. K00kie is shy by girls you can watch one of the ahl videos where he sit next to a girl he was really shy also when this girl wink to him he run away XD and he also said i cant look in her eyes. Also i think he dont like to be shipped with other idols maybe he reacts because of that to be not shipped. Also dont forget his fan love to iu. He was asked what kind of girls are you ideal type he said iu and gets shy.
He seems interest to girls but i think he is shy. Sometimes he acts like he is not here with his mind.
Idk but 100% gay are no one of them. Maybe they are more comfortable with mans than womens because of culture. Koreans are strict about realtionships between boy and girl contact. They are open but not that much. Also dont forget guys when his hyungs get some of hate because they was just kind to some girl idols. They really cant interact with girls normal without get hated.
Really? I watched their reaction some time ago and his reaction looked normal to me, he was shock, but that normal.
Jimin seemed more interested in the performance. Also he was shy with everyone who is stranger. Other members even mentionned how he was shy with them during predebut. Also those show are scripted, i don't doubt he will be shy with those girls and guys but not that much, it's was obviously overact. Also it's not like he never saw a woman in his life, he even had a girlfriend in middle school. i talked on other forum and she said me how much things are scripted for the fun of the show. I believe the extreme shy personlity was a security to don't have rumors, just like V fake 4D personality or Jhope sunshine thing. To me he is the member who show the least reaction to women and im saying it as someone who follow them since early 2016. So 3years, maybe i missed smth. But people often assume sommeone is straight if he show no mannerism just like @Truthteller said
Plenty of gays people like female artist. In most gay men korean forum, all they do is talk about female idol. It's not just a western gay men thing to prefere female artist to male.
 
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But have you watched k00kies reaction of Normani Love Lies.....he seems reallly enjoy the performence. K00kie is shy by girls you can watch one of the ahl videos where he sit next to a girl he was really shy also when this girl wink to him he run away XD and he also said i cant look in her eyes. Also i think he dont like to be shipped with other idols maybe he reacts because of that to be not shipped. Also dont forget his fan love to iu. He was asked what kind of girls are you ideal type he said iu and gets shy.
He seems interest to girls but i think he is shy. Sometimes he acts like he is not here with his mind.
Idk but 100% gay are no one of them. Maybe they are more comfortable with mans than womens because of culture. Koreans are strict about realtionships between boy and girl contact. They are open but not that much. Also dont forget guys when his hyungs get some of hate because they was just kind to some girl idols. They really cant interact with girls normal without get hated.
Honestly I am not here to convince anyone. I as a women can act excited, hype and enjoy performances by other women, think they are very beautiful, be a fan of a female artist, doesnt mean I am attracted to them. Same goes for gay men. It is not one or two things, its a number of things and of you put 2 and 2 together it klicks. The most compelling is how he acts around other men, though I didnt include that because I said wouldnt include member interactions. He is not a boy he is a grown man at an age where you are over your awkward shy teen phase. He works with female staff every single day, what makes you think he doesnt talk to women on a regular basis. Some of their female staff are pretty and they do their makeup and style them, which involves close physical contact. On idol stages they get to see a lot of female artists as well.

There is no compelling evidence of the members having orgies with one another. These are mere speculations. What is more likely is them having transactional sex with powerful people in the industry for favours, which is all too common, aka casting couch. There was a blind item of one of the members hooking up with Ryan Seacrest before appearing on his show. My guess is Jimin. Before breaking big they could have had rich sponsors (very common in kpop) hence all the suggestive photoshoots.
 

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Showing his indifference is good evidence you posted but w golden closet I think he called it that because he's called the golden maknae (because he's good at doing everything) and his bedroom is literally like a closet lol (as shown in the mnet comeback show), and they're Korean so while maybe Namjoon is more aware of these terms, I highly doubt Jungkook would have been aware (it's not like it's a super popular lgbt term right?)
 

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Showing his indifference is good evidence you posted but w golden closet I think he called it that because he's called the golden maknae (because he's good at doing everything) and his bedroom is literally like a closet lol (as shown in the mnet comeback show), and they're Korean so while maybe Namjoon is more aware of these terms, I highly doubt Jungkook would have been aware (it's not like it's a super popular lgbt term right?)
true, but there is another thing, he say that he loves the most in his golden closet are rainbow light. So a golden closet with rainbow light is a bit weird. Or maybe coincidence. Maybe he like to world play
 

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This is a video of Jungkook and Taehyung reacting to a fan saying she loves Taekook. To me they look more than happy, look at their smiles. She was the one posting this video clarifying their conversation. So no they are not bothered by it. You can find the whole video on youtube.


Once again I am not here to convince anyone, but Troy Sivan is an artist that caters to the LGBT community, he is not just an artist who happens to be gay like Sam Smith. His videos and music are about being gay, gay rights etc. The majority of his fanbase are LGBT who feel he represents them. Feel free to check out his music videos by yourself. Also JK doesnt live in a closet, he doesnt even have a proper bed in his closet, just clothes and a computer. He probably shares rooms with another member or has another room where he sleeps. I refuse ro believe that no one in his company has told him about the hidden meaning of closet in the English language, because everytime Bighit posts his videos it say Golden Closet Productions. It is too much of a coincidence imo. If Jk looks in the direction of any woman, people assume he is interested, but if he stares and feels up a male interviewer he is just being friendly. What logic is this? JK and JM (especially Jimin) seem to like this attractive Access Hollywood interviewer Scott Evans. Jk even made sure to feel his muscles first chance he got. Now if he looked at a female interviewer like this, all hell would break loose. By your logic he probably wants to bed him because he kept staring.


 

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And there was an interview in which jk stared so hard at the interviewer and he smiled a lot. He didn't even try to hide that he likes what he is looking at. People also noticed this. He looked like he wanted to take her clothes of. Please, forgive the way I expressed this, but this is what he looked like. Sug@r also liked the woman and smiled the entire interview and he tried to talk, while in the other interviews he seemed a little bored and he didn't talk much. And RM also liked her and he grabbed his belt while looking at her, which is an obvious sign of flirting. And Jimin tried to catch her attention too. And JK also checked Ciara out when they met her.
And also with another interviewer, a very beautiful woman, he was so shy and he was trying to catch her attention and he even leaned his hand against the wall, maybe because he would have liked to touch her, but he couldn't, because they have manners.
Also, we could see how they reacted to cardi b ar grammys.
And also this:
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And in another video when they were reacting to old videos or pictures of them or something like this, Jk and Tea were reacting together and they said: "We are Taekook in a cute way."
These were their words. Which I guess means that they are just friends. But this was a few years ago and of course a lot of things can change. I tried to find the video, but I haven't found it.
And about the butt grabbing. I read an article about things that a man who visited SK didn't like about the country and one of the reasons was the skinship. This was he wrote.
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It might mean that he is just pervert. I don't know. Jk said that he likes to grab their butt when he is stressed or something like this.
I personally don't have anything against skinship as long is not too exagerated.
And just because JK likes Troye it doesn't mean that he relates to him. For example, my favorite singer ever is gay. I love him since 2010,and one of my favorite songs of his is about his love for a man, which is condemned by the others. I like the song with all my heart and I feel it, but it doesn't mean that I am in the same situation.
And in Korea praising men's beauty is not weird, because beauty is a very important thing there. So, praising Shawn is not something out of common.
Also, in an interview they were asked if they like bikinis, and Rm and Jin said that they like them and JK said that he knows what he needs to know about bikinis. Rm also said that fans don't really realise that they are men.
But yes, RM definetly supports the lgbt and maybe all of them. And their behavior is very questionable sometimes.
But, please, please, don't take these as facts, because I don't know them personally and of course I don't know everything about them, so I can't say that what I say here is 100% correct,these are only my observations. I might be wrong.
those are the interview you are talking about:)
I wonder if those can be really considered as attraction since we see it through an heterosexual point of view madeby society which tend to labell interaction, even the slighest between man and a woman as romantic or sexual

I think people react that way bc those are women, so bts breathing next to women mean they want them naked. To me they just look like people who don't understand what is going because the interview is in english , so that why all they can do is staring. during the interview on grammy made with that black male interviewer, jk keep hiding at the back and smile shyly and is embarassed but no one is the comment mention about this.
Jimin imo is bi but the only thing that made me think jk could be attracted to women is when they asked who is the best with women and who is most likely to get married the first.
But again that not sure since Jk along with Jimin are the most popular member and Jk is often portrayed as the perfect guy/ gentleman.

But anyway you could be right, I could be right, in the end we know nothing about them. And all they do is mostly scripted. That why im not an army since i hate their toxic fanbase and bc they have no real personality
 
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Let me clarify, my intention from the very start was to show BTS pro LGBT agenda, which goes beyond makeup, ships or skinship. It is by no means meant as evidence to their sexuality, although the public (not private) receipts provided do awaken strong suspicions. I said suspicion not proof. But it does seem to bother some people’s sensitivities, so I will stop. Wish you all a pleasant day.
 

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If they are gay or straight that doesnt change much......being part of that industry they have to be part of sex rituals and have sex with other men ....even if they are not atracted to them they will have to do it

Those shows are all edited by Bighit.....they could easily cut that scene of Jungkook getting upset about being "friendzoned" by Taehyung but they decided to keep that scene in the show because they want the fans to analyse their actions.
BTS promotes the LGBT agenda, fans write fanfiction and use topics like p***philia and sexual abuse as topics.... this is the real problem with the extreme fanservice
 
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there is also a thing i noticed in bts fans. The majority of their fans (at least the one i encountered irl or on social networks) are low on the social scale, mean they have no good knowledge. Even when i was in high school, last year, the one that liked them was the one with bad grades, who went in literature & art, were lgbt, were fans of asians stuff and no one liked them in school, they were seen as trash so the only thing they had is kpop. I never exposed i liked bts or kpop since i knew it's a shame, and myself i knew it's pathetic to be fannatic. sorry if i come off rude but it's the things i noticed about the fanbase
 

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If they are gay or straight that doesnt change much......being part of that industry they have to be part of sex rituals and have sex with other men ....even if they are not atracted to them they will have to do it

Those shows are all edited by Bighit.....they could easily cut that scene of Jungkook getting upset about being "friendzoned" by Taehyung but they decided to keep that scene in the show because they want the fans to analyse their actions.
BTS promotes the LGBT agenda, fans write fanfiction and use topics like p***philia and sexual abuse as topics.... this is the real problem with the extreme fanservice
Tell me if I am wrong, but it actually makes all the difference. Them having s** is something that happens behind the scenes and one can mostly speculate or draw conclusions.Most people wouldnt think about what goes on behind the scenes. However them giving a homosexual vibe/ support is something which can be felt by their following/audience publicly. If someone you idolize is suspiciosuly gay, then this normalizes or glamorizes this issue even more.
 

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Yes i've noticed that in myself too.. when i was their fan my grades and confidence was not the same as before..back then i thought that their music and lyrics would help me to improve in those things but it never happened, i only became worse...now i am trying to bring back the best of me .
This thread changed my whole view in life and im so thankful to all the old and new users who never closed their eyes and mouths in front of the dark truth of how the industry really works.
that why never say never, it's possible to get ride of everything especially from trash like them and their irrelevant music. Even sasaeng stop being sasaeng.
I freed myself from smoking 6 or 5 month ago. It was addiction but now everything is behind.
 

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This is freaky!!!:oops: People from staff and security def let these sasaengs in, there's no other way they're finding these boys and getting that close to them like that.
i heard they pay or sleep with staff or producer to get close to the boys. One of their porducers "Supreme boi" sleep with young sasaeng and fool them something or give number of phone
 
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