BTS discussion thread

[SHinEeHeaven]

Well I have read some very disturbing things about JB which I can post later. Honestly disturbing, explains his current state though. People have a hard time understanding why a 25 yo with 300 million $$ in his bank account, a hot wife and a huge platform of followers would be this depressed. Reading the story, his current behaviour makes sense.

If anything BP have more support from western artists compared to BTS as in they actually look like they are enjoying each others company. If you ask me BP are more well liked by the general public, cause I actually know quite a few people who know their song (dudududu) and like their image who are not kpop l/bts fans. They do have the most viewed kpop music video and popular song, difference is fans are not obsessed. And YG is to blame too for the slow comebacks. Nevertheless i laughed so hard when I saw this photo, Pharell is not having it with BTS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1111198087899283457

what disturbing thing JB have done? I have heard verrrry long time, that JB was molested by Usher, he certainly have many traumas that he wanted to forget

 

[NotDelulu]

Why there are 991 pages now instead of 995?

 

[Truthteller]

what disturbing thing JB have done? I have heard verrrry long time, that JB was molested by Usher, he certainly have many traumas that he wanted to forget

Blind item:
Had a hard time coming up with a title to this one. Over the years I have written bits and pieces of the entirety of this story as they were told to me. Over the last week or two, it has all come together to the point where I don't even know where to begin. Go back almost a decade. You had this foreign born rising star in his early teens. He flies here to the US and meets one of his idols. Probably a permanent A lister. The idol is closeted and has sex with women but much prefers men. Well, young men. He made it very clear to the teen what he needed to do and the teen did it. Did it is probably the wrong term. The teen was raped. Repeatedly. By his idol. This went on for years. The teen was super confused. He was becoming an A+ lister. He is still pretty close to that now. Women were throwing themselves at him but his only sexual experiences had been with this singer who was raping him. I don't think our singer has ever really adjusted to that time period. He needs a lot of therapy and he is getting it. BUT, and this is a big but. The people he is getting therapy from are people who have ulterior motives. The biggest of those motives is money. Our singer is handing money over hand over fist. More exploitation is not what he needs. It will come out eventually and then he will be using more and end up in a death spiral. Another big issue in all of this are the ongoing legal troubles of the permanent A lister. His sexual history and partners are going to come out and it is going to drag the subject of this blind front and center.

Usher was JB mentor in his early days. Usher has had rumours surrounding him and very young men was at the time having legal troubles with it. Two other youngsters claimed he had given them an STD. Usher himself used to live with P-Diddy as a young teenager and was abused and passed around. P-diddy needless to say is rumoured to be in the closet, has multiple witnesses actually. The vicious cycle of abuse. That is entertainment industry for you.

 

[Chic]

Bang Pd is not going to let any of them get in a relationship unless is gets the company and the group a promo. These boys are merely escorts until further notice. I personally think that Bang Pd keeps one of the boys strictly for himself. I have a feeling its Namjoon, just because he has a lot of wiggle room to play with. It's like a pimp with his favorite prostitute.

By the way, what in the world does "I'm a good boy" mean? Why did Taehyung say that on the Late Night Show? Is that like an initiation for someone to give him a call later? I cringed when I saw the short clips on instagram. It was like he was initiating indirect foreplay to somebody watching. I don't know what sane grown man or woman would consider that to be adorable. I hope that he didn't come up with that on his own, because that was just plain weird and forced. Plus, the host himself, didn't really hype them up either during the questions. Like, he was wasting his time asking the questions. (Which in all honesty, he kinda was wasting his time.) We've all heard these questions before, and its just very repetitive. The interview was painful to watch after watching it. Stephen Colbert doesn't take them seriously.

Yes! I also thought it to be funny how out of all of the photoshoots they have for their albums, the two chosen were when they were dressed in silly clothing. The entire appearance came off as a mockery to me.

 

[NotDelulu]

I dont know if taekook is a valid subject to discuss here as it's not related to illum8nati/occult but I think it is related to b1ghit.
So there is this channel on YouTube, where she analyzes a lot of their different interactions, some videos make more sense than other and she does dig deep - example is when tae drastically lost a lot of weight in a span of 9 days and appeared blond and lost and jk was allegedly worried about him at concert.
Anyway, she uploaded a new video where she says bh edit a lot of their videos and cut out taekook scenes deliberately. She also claims bh are actively working to take her analysis videos down and block them.
Bh have a really shitty way to handle bts videos - they don't supply English subtitles, post lousy fancams instead of buying rights to good footage - but they go out of their way to take down her videos (so she claims).
I know this is all highly speculative but if it is true, this is really weird and suspicious.
The video - it's long- is here

I noticed in the run episodes lately - I wasn't watching but many pointed out - they do edit taekook scenes in a very botched and obvious way. Strange.

 

[Chic]

I dont know if taekook is a valid subject to discuss here as it's not related to illum8nati/occult but I think it is related to b1ghit.
So there is this channel on YouTube, where she analyzes a lot of their different interactions, some videos make more sense than other and she does dig deep - example is when tae drastically lost a lot of weight in a span of 9 days and appeared blond and lost and jk was allegedly worried about him at concert.
Anyway, she uploaded a new video where she says bh edit a lot of their videos and cut out taekook scenes deliberately. She also claims bh are actively working to take her analysis videos down and block them.
Bh have a really shitty way to handle bts videos - they don't supply English subtitles, post lousy fancams instead of buying rights to good footage - but they go out of their way to take down her videos (so she claims).
I know this is all highly speculative but if it is true, this is really weird and suspicious.
The video - it's long- is here

I noticed in the run episodes lately - I wasn't watching but many pointed out - they do edit taekook scenes in a very botched and obvious way. Strange.

I personally don't get into the shipper material as it's not my thing. I do think the maknae line are close and I also think they are often taken advantage of. There's no telling why the company so actively works to keep them separated.

Now I'm bothered by the way TH introduced himself as a good boy. Reminded me of the interview when NJ asked JM what would he like to do (not say) to S. Mendes. JM puckered his lips, looked directly into the camera and said, "You? Very nice" and gave off a flirty gesture. That made me shutter more than anything they've ever done.

 

[Follower0fChrist]

Bang Pd is not going to let any of them get in a relationship unless is gets the company and the group a promo. These boys are merely escorts until further notice. I personally think that Bang Pd keeps one of the boys strictly for himself. I have a feeling its Namjoon, just because he has a lot of wiggle room to play with. It's like a pimp with his favorite prostitute.

By the way, what in the world does "I'm a good boy" mean? Why did Taehyung say that on the Late Night Show? Is that like an initiation for someone to give him a call later? I cringed when I saw the short clips on instagram. It was like he was initiating indirect foreplay to somebody watching. I don't know what sane grown man or woman would consider that to be adorable. I hope that he didn't come up with that on his own, because that was just plain weird and forced. Plus, the host himself, didn't really hype them up either during the questions. Like, he was wasting his time asking the questions. (Which in all honesty, he kinda was wasting his time.) We've all heard these questions before, and its just very repetitive. The interview was painful to watch after watching it. Stephen Colbert doesn't take them seriously.

What? Saying "I'm a good boy" sounds like something he was indeed forced to say. I personally think he means it as "I listen to what THEY say, and what THEY tell me to do. My fans are still not aware of who I truly am, they don't have to either. I'm a good boy in both of their eyes." Then again, he could have meant it differently, idk.

 

[Follower0fChrist]

I dont know if taekook is a valid subject to discuss here as it's not related to illum8nati/occult but I think it is related to b1ghit.
So there is this channel on YouTube, where she analyzes a lot of their different interactions, some videos make more sense than other and she does dig deep - example is when tae drastically lost a lot of weight in a span of 9 days and appeared blond and lost and jk was allegedly worried about him at concert.
Anyway, she uploaded a new video where she says bh edit a lot of their videos and cut out taekook scenes deliberately. She also claims bh are actively working to take her analysis videos down and block them.
Bh have a really shitty way to handle bts videos - they don't supply English subtitles, post lousy fancams instead of buying rights to good footage - but they go out of their way to take down her videos (so she claims).
I know this is all highly speculative but if it is true, this is really weird and suspicious.
The video - it's long- is here

I noticed in the run episodes lately - I wasn't watching but many pointed out - they do edit taekook scenes in a very botched and obvious way. Strange.

You know, I think that tae and jungk know that the fans like 'em together. So they're just acting everything out to fool their foolish fans anyways. Plus tae is tired of being in this illuminati mess, or so it seems while jungk looks to be enjoying every last bit of it. I don't think someone who wants to be free from something satanic would get along with someone who is 100% fine with it.

 

[Follower0fChrist]

Off topic real quick:
Guys what happened? There was 995 pages yesterday and today, but now there's 987.

 

[Chic]

This thread is so close to being 1000 pages. There's only so much we can discuss here. I think it is ok to talk about other troubling facets that don't necessarily involve symbolism and the occult. It's been talked about in depth obviously. In regards to occultism and such, the only way anything different can be added is if people come here to bring attention to something new (B+S music videos, interviews, appearances, etc.), which to me means people are still continuing to follow what they are doing to some degree--even if they are not a fan. The only way you know what's going on with the group is if you find new content to share.

I feel like that needed to be said.

 

[Follower0fChrist]

This thread is so close to being 1000 pages. There's only so much we can discuss here. I think it is ok to talk about other troubling facets that don't necessarily involve symbolism and the occult. It's been talked about in depth obviously. In regards to occultism and such, the only way anything different can be added is if people come here to bring attention to something new (B+S music videos, interviews, appearances, etc.), which to me means people are still continuing to follow what they are doing to some degree--even if they are not a fan. The only way you know what's going on with the group is if you find new content to share.

I feel like that needed to be said.

Alright, thanks!

 

[Chic]

Alright, thanks!

Lol. It's just that I've seen the complaints before in the past. I think some prefer to see posts bashing the company and group rather than having insightful conversations about all of the issues and problems we find. Everything is pure speculation, of course, but for everyone to discern the bigger picture proves there's something off about their success.

 

[NotDelulu]

This thread is so close to being 1000 pages. There's only so much we can discuss here. I think it is ok to talk about other troubling facets that don't necessarily involve symbolism and the occult. It's been talked about in depth obviously. In regards to occultism and such, the only way anything different can be added is if people come here to bring attention to something new (B+S music videos, interviews, appearances, etc.), which to me means people are still continuing to follow what they are doing to some degree--even if they are not a fan. The only way you know what's going on with the group is if you find new content to share.

I feel like that needed to be said.

Thank you. Also, it is great to talk to all of you - a bunch of intelligent people, thats rare to find nowadays, not to mention among other bts fans.
I find myself coming every day!

 

[NotDelulu]

Off topic real quick:
Guys what happened? There was 995 pages yesterday and today, but now there's 987.

I asked the same thing.. someone deletes their posts apparently..

 

[Truthteller]

I dont know if taekook is a valid subject to discuss here as it's not related to illum8nati/occult but I think it is related to b1ghit.
So there is this channel on YouTube, where she analyzes a lot of their different interactions, some videos make more sense than other and she does dig deep - example is when tae drastically lost a lot of weight in a span of 9 days and appeared blond and lost and jk was allegedly worried about him at concert.
Anyway, she uploaded a new video where she says bh edit a lot of their videos and cut out taekook scenes deliberately. She also claims bh are actively working to take her analysis videos down and block them.
Bh have a really shitty way to handle bts videos - they don't supply English subtitles, post lousy fancams instead of buying rights to good footage - but they go out of their way to take down her videos (so she claims).
I know this is all highly speculative but if it is true, this is really weird and suspicious.
The video - it's long- is here

I noticed in the run episodes lately - I wasn't watching but many pointed out - they do edit taekook scenes in a very botched and obvious way. Strange.

I previously posted about how odd it is that they went from being close to avoiding each other and having no interactions. The fact that the company tried to block her videos makes it all the more believable. Either way every group is marketed in it own way, for BTS it is the close relationships between members and free going personalities. That being said, I have a hard time seeing why anyone would want to watch 7 dudes being friendly with one another without further speculations about something more going on. That is where shipping and more gossip about personal matters comes in, it’s what keeps many interested. When they overprotect, ove- rehearse and restrict and censor their content and interactions to much, they go against their own brand value. Sad but true, and that’s when they get boring. There is a reason why social media influencers and celebrities stir up public drama/scandal every so often, people live for gossip and it keeps them interested.

 

[Shuna]

Speaking all the time of Pan (I do not know if we had already put but ...) in front of the Produce 101 he has a statue of Pan:

 

[NotDelulu]

I previously posted about how odd it is that they went from being close to avoiding each other and having no interactions. The fact that the company tried to block her videos makes it all the more believable. Either way every group is marketed in it own way, for BTS it is the close relationships between members and free going personalities. That being said, I have a hard time seeing why anyone would want to watch 7 dudes being friendly with one another without further speculations about something more going on. That is where shipping and more gossip about personal matters comes in, it’s what keeps many interested. When they overprotect, ove- rehearse and restrict and censor their content and interactions to much, they go against their own brand value. Sad but true, and that’s when they get boring. There is a reason why social media influencers and celebrities stir up public drama/scandal every so often, people live for gossip and it keeps them interested.

Well considering at least half their fandom ships 2 or more members of the group, they should know people are actively looking for this content. So either they promote excessive skin ship and fan service or they panic about it. The more bts get famous (and I joined this thing literally this month) the more stiff and boring they become. Looking at earlier videos, of run episodes stages variety shows etc, they were much more natural and fun and this is probably why they became so popular. Numbing them down and make them act to restrained is really a bad move but at this point it doesn't even matter, army will chew on whatever they are fed and praise whatever mediocre content is given.. even the music got boring! And fans who said they didn't like bwl were treated like traitors.. bts can do no wrong now and their increasing disinterest is ignored by most of the fans

 

[BlueNeon]

The name dna is pretty famous concept for these western celebrities
K3ndrick Lamar has a dna song,little mix has one,l1a marie johnson has one,just saying.
And guess what? both lamar and bt5 had the dna song in the same year,2017.
And in 1magine drag0ns' believer mv(also from 2017),dna strands are flashed many times.It's like they got their pointers from the higher ups.

DNA... could be referring to the hand micro-chip implant like Alex the activist mentioned
P.S. thanks for all the likes guys!

 

[NotDelulu]

P.S. thanks for all the likes guys!

You nice! Keep going!
(Sorry. I had to)

 

[rottielover]

Well,bt5 is what one would call a late bloomer.
Usually,groups would attain success pretty quickly.But,it took them almost 7 years to gain international recognition.(they started training and making content-feelers for audience in 2010 and kind of gained wide western recognition around 2017),which is what made fans proud and rest of the public suspicious(even irritated) of their sudden rise to fame after all these years.
By then,even if the fandom seems to have grown into a monster,the group has almost run out of steam.They are done away with all the good content.(despite the ever existent agenda-peddling,they atleast had some decent music back then).
Now,they are just another generic boy band and whatever made them different,no longer exists.
Oh well,another group lost in the abyss that is music industry.

i agree...their older material specifically their music was actually better than today's.