BTS discussion thread

[Chic]

Some of you may recall during the promotions for Tear, YG (Candy--I like that pseudo name for him) was the one who looked downcasted and done with it all. We talked about it. We've talked about them all.

Idk. It's really hard to tell which ones are unhappy and which ones are satisfied. Using TH as an example since he's the one who looks dejected this go round (and previous times), someone made a good observation a page or 2 ago about him having to deal with all of the fame and not having the freedom like normal people have. I really think it depends on one's temperament in how they will handle the fame and all that comes along with it. Some people may want it, but they're not truly cut out for it. Just think about how they start entertainers out so young! It's all so deceiving starting at a young age when they can't assess the pros and cons but only see what's presented to them in a shiny, beautiful package. They may have ambition, but that can only take you so far before greed takes over.

To me--from what I've seen--YG and TH seem like they are the most detached. JM (so cleverly referred to as Jamal on here lol) is the most insecure. SJ, the eldest, would likely be the one to rebel *if* any of them ever were to do so. The rest of the members are harder to read.

 

[Chic]

Yes the days and numbers they chose are always occultic and why always a Friday for a comeback? Or some new mv related to music..
Sapphire is always worn by V.. But fans say it's his birthstone maybe that's why..
Nowadays they're wearing a lot of pink stones matching their album's color.. Pink opals or rose quartz most probably..

J00ns pink stones
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Looks an opal because of rainbowish colors
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Blue kind of opal?
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And i don't know about these some greens.. Emeralds maybe
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But hey, those rings are pretty tho.

Sapphire is my birthstone and my birthday is not in December. Do birthstones differ in other countries for birthdays?

 

[Deadlylady]

I think it has already been posted, I give it as with the video:
Looking a little more about the Illuminates of Thanateros:
Looking at the logo I thought back to R_M in Mono:
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So this "thanos" again a greek god reference? The "god" of death. He has been seen a lot lately even in the fornite game. Which is played by a lot of kids. So this thing is a representation of that secret society and what they did or are still doing to the world. And showing themselves as powerful and immortal huh? But in reality they are only weak mortal people with a lot of money. Money can't buy you eternal life on this earth. Maybe they are trying to become robots to live "forever". But that can't never be like being a normal human. And let's face it, this world is no heaven.

A lot of conspiracy theorist are claiming that they will make a fake alien attack so that the world countries will unify against that fake stuff. And of couse a lot of people will die and that's what they want in the first place. And those superheros are what? Regular people that want to do good? A lot of them died in that movie so maybe it a message saying a lot of your relatives will die? Hopefully this movie is just stupid stuff. And all the predictive programming vibes it has are not real. Marvel movies has gotten very weird with deadpool. I don't like their antihero trend which people seems to love right now. I've heard all the movie tickets were sold out for the first day even in my country where not a lot of people go to the movies.

 

[hrosies]

Hi, i just recently discovered bts and been watching everything about them for the past 2 weeks.
About tae -I just saw the red carpet pics with his new dark hair , he barely smiles, gave one fake smile that vanished in 3 seconds.. where is that bubbly personality that is all over older clips on YouTube? He seems not himself for a while now.. as they are reaching global success and flashing all kinds of signs they haven't needed to do before.. I am worried:/

Maybe that persona is what they company made up for him. Maybe he isn’t as playful and bubbly on real life. I don’t know...

 

[hrosies]

I feel like Vizz is psychologically drained, everything about being this charater he is portraying is too much. And the fakeness is starting to show. This is his best look so far. Natural hair color, looking like a "man"!

http://instagr.am/p/BwofitOgFUb/

Fake smile 101:
http://instagr.am/p/BwojsIBAaCV/
Stoping his smile because he doesn't feel good:
http://instagr.am/p/Bwor9kolgPX/
Forgetting to do "hand sign":
http://instagr.am/p/Bwov01pFryc/
Why am I here vibes:
http://instagr.am/p/BwovxgnBsE9/

During commercial breaks just looking down :

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwo2VxvFu4r/

Cook trying to console him:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwo7xHqA9vJ/

Are we done yet lol:

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They look 100x better dressed in suits. The hand signs are horrible and ugly, but they actually look like guys for once.

 

[Hopeful]

But hey, those rings are pretty tho.

Sapphire is my birthstone and my birthday is not in December. Do birthstones differ in other countries for birthdays?

Yeah the pink ones are like really pretty..
And no they're the same all around According to horoscopic signs.. Mine is diamond (clear one.. The one without colors)

 

[Hopeful]

the last time they collabed with nicki.. V had to to dye his hair the color same as Minaj's from 2011
It was like a tribute or something out of respect for the featuring artist..

Now V had his hair blue for the comeback and guess what the hair color for 2017 ha1sey was.. Yes it was Blue..



he got all the possible blue shades ha1sey did on her hair..
So V is kind of the one paying respects or is Made to pay respects to the female artists collabing ... and he even represented the grammy to HER

 

[Deadlylady]

But hey, those rings are pretty tho.

Sapphire is my birthstone and my birthday is not in December. Do birthstones differ in other countries for birthdays?

Stones are fine. But him wearing that in a frame like that could have an ulterior meaning Since they are into occultism and do give out messages through those mv, whether we believe in it or not. We can only talk about the visuals since the music seems normal to our ears, but it could have waves to affect the brain. Kids and teenager will be the most affected since they are young and can't go on for long without listening to music. I think after the non-smoking space trend the non-music space should be the new thing.

The rings they wore at that fan event looks pretty fake lol. And k-pop likes that gothic castle, anime style knight or royalty style stuff. Wearing saphire or precious stones is not a thing most guys would do. Maybe royalty. I heard they were called the princes of pop.

 

[Deadlylady]

the last time they collabed with nicki.. V had to to dye his hair the color same as Minaj's from 2011
It was like a tribute or something out of respect for the featuring artist..
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Now V had his hair blue for the comeback and guess what the hair color for 2017 ha1sey was.. Yes it was Blue..
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So V is kind of the one paying respects or is Made to pay respects to the female artists collabing ... and he even represented the grammy to HER

On the other hand the girl had a wig with the similar hair color as jamal. Maybe Vii wanted to try it out himself after looking at their mvs.

 

[Hopeful]

Something is going on with fansites.. They aren't allowed in the fansign maybe the last one and they're forming a union and trying to sue b1gh1t? Suing b1gh1t won't get anyone anywhere but these are the poeple who get paid by b1gh1t.. It's just a confusing scenario now.. I mean these fansites are no less than sasaengs.. They're provided with tickets hotels and flight schedules.. Just a few days back eternal diamond one of h0b1s fansite said she is stopping this.. Now i kind of feel she was just backing away from this drama that was beginning to stir.. These fansites have many secrets of the idols and protect the image of them for the company

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121867015927427072

 

[WhiteSnowflakesN]

Hello everyone!

Today I saw BigHit uploaded a new music video of "Boy with love (boylover aka p***philia)" and it looked almost the same. Except the scenes I mentioned before in my analyzis has been changed. I have the feeling BigHit is monitoring this forum. What do you guys think?

That's possible. But, why would they care?

 

[NotDelulu]

Something is going on with fansites.. They aren't allowed in the fansign maybe the last one and they're forming a union and trying to sue b1gh1t? Suing b1gh1t won't get anyone anywhere but these are the poeple who get paid by b1gh1t.. It's just a confusing scenario now.. I mean these fansites are no less than sasaengs.. They're provided with tickets hotels and flight schedules.. Just a few days back eternal diamond one of h0b1s fansite said she is stopping this.. Now i kind of feel she was just backing away from this drama that was beginning to stir.. These fansites have many secrets of the idols and protect the image of them for the company

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121867015927427072

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First of all it means the same people go to these events all the time and other, poorer or less powerful fans, lose their spot because if them.
I dont want to pity them but i wonder why bighit excluded them this time and how they are planning to sue when bighit will claim its a lottery.
But still they sound extremely entiteled to me, these mega fans

 

[NotDelulu]

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Maybe that persona is what they company made up for him. Maybe he isn’t as playful and bubbly on real life. I don’t know...

I wonder if he really played the other persona for years, in all of the variety shows, vlives, performances.. could he really fake it for so long? I think not.
I think they broke him

 

[NotDelulu]

Some of you may recall during the promotions for Tear, YG (Candy--I like that pseudo name for him) was the one who looked downcasted and done with it all. We talked about it. We've talked about them all.

Idk. It's really hard to tell which ones are unhappy and which ones are satisfied. Using TH as an example since he's the one who looks dejected this go round (and previous times), someone made a good observation a page or 2 ago about him having to deal with all of the fame and not having the freedom like normal people have. I really think it depends on one's temperament in how they will handle the fame and all that comes along with it. Some people may want it, but they're not truly cut out for it. Just think about how they start entertainers out so young! It's all so deceiving starting at a young age when they can't assess the pros and cons but only see what's presented to them in a shiny, beautiful package. They may have ambition, but that can only take you so far before greed takes over.

To me--from what I've seen--YG and TH seem like they are the most detached. JM (so cleverly referred to as Jamal on here lol) is the most insecure. SJ, the eldest, would likely be the one to rebel *if* any of them ever were to do so. The rest of the members are harder to read.

You are right. Yoongi looks alive only during performances, other times he looks like he dispises all of them. Tae really looks detached. I wonder if the other members show any support or just ignore his pain. Maybe they are told not to help even if they want, who knows ( i dont think him and jk are a couple). Someone said hes not living with the rest of them, maybe this way they can cause more damage to him without others noticing

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Something is going on with fansites.. They aren't allowed in the fansign maybe the last one and they're forming a union and trying to sue b1gh1t? Suing b1gh1t won't get anyone anywhere but these are the poeple who get paid by b1gh1t.. It's just a confusing scenario now.. I mean these fansites are no less than sasaengs.. They're provided with tickets hotels and flight schedules.. Just a few days back eternal diamond one of h0b1s fansite said she is stopping this.. Now i kind of feel she was just backing away from this drama that was beginning to stir.. These fansites have many secrets of the idols and protect the image of them for the company

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121867015927427072

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suing bighit will getting them nowhere, that company is scary with all the connection they have

 

[Truthteller]

It is possible to fake it.There is an acquaintance who had to fake a personality and they did it for around 8 years because,reasons. Then, one day,they were like,"I'm starting to become too fake.Let us take a break" and they did a 180 degree flip,freaking out everyone.But,over time,they managed to get a balance between the two.
Besides,this guy is playing a part,a character in this mega show about a boy group(the whole bt5 project) produced by their boss.It is only natural to be off-character once in a while.
And his stance in those red carpet photos with hands behind his back and the way he stood,it is very telling that he feels superior to the rest of the group.It's not that he is done with them,it is rather that he feels that he is more deserving and doesn't want to associate with them.And in some earlier posts,it was pointed out that he was in a higher degree than the rest of them earlier and that,they closed in the gap pretty quickly.So,it could be more of an anger that they did so easily what he took so long and worked so hard.It won't even be a surprise if he leaves the group and pursues acting.The new contract is not about them singing.It's about the company owning them,whatever they do over the next 7 years,to ensure that it still gets royalties from their old music and any of their new pursuits.Actually,the company needs him more as it appears that he draws in more international fans,meaning more money.

I am sorry but this kind of behaviour is not ”normal” in anyone in the long run regardless of personality or profession. If personalities are fake they will show through somehow, do you really think it is possible to script an enire personality 24/7? If it were possible they would to something about Suga who has one of the most anti climactic attitudes, which he has confessed to large part due to him being an introvert with social anxiety and depression. Yet people have come to accept Suga because he has always been this way, yet Taehyung is different, has always been pretty extroverted and social and his off cam moments support this. IMO is the most troubled member, I never got as bad of a vibe from Suga as I get from him now. The other members also know about his troubles, but there is only that much you can do. Saw a clip where Jimin said the thing that makes him happy, someone said the cliche Army but Jimin negated and it is Taehyung’s eye smile at a fan sign which suggests that he knows about the situation, aka he wants to see a genuine smile on him. The rest is up to professional help. Nevertheless anxiety and depression is extremely common in the music industry , studies show that up to 65% of musicians and their staff suffer from it. Being in the public eye and having other personal problems makes matters even worse.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

fame comes with a prize....we see this situation repeated all the time
Celebrities get all this fame, money and popularity but for some reason they start looking sad and depressed

This already happened with Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato, etc....and just look at Brintey Spears situation....once she was the biggest star alive and now??? she is a robot that cant even drive on her own

in BTS some of them are enjoying the fame to the fullest (RM and JK ) while others like V are looking sad and bored
Maybe it depends on the person and what type of sacrifices they have to do to get there

But fans dont really care ....they just want to be entertained and get more BTS "fun" videos and concerts

this is just speculation, may be V is looking sad because he is the one who required to make sacrifices for the group? others might not have to do, when I saw those post about him, I remembered Kanye West, he always have those fake smiles, because he was so depressed because he have sacrificed his mother, so I am guessing might be the same for V

and fans oh...I am disgusted with them, I just have discussion with one of the blind fans, they care NOTHING but only entertainment, fandom are just...no comment

 

[Deadlylady]

Princes of pop?They?Hmm,interesting.
Do you guys know that Jb1eber is called prince of pop,Br1t spears princess of pop,Mj king of pop and Mad0nna Queen of pop?
And someone in other thread,I think said something about kings,queens,barons,earls,princes,princesses,priests,priestesses etc being the many levels in occult and that these titles indicate at which level someone is in the occult.
So,interesting.
You guys might've heard about backmasking,right?There is one more technique where an image is attached to the music in such a way that when someone hears that particular music,the attached image is burnished into the subconscious,like a visual subliminal.
They say that if one puts a song through spectrum analyzer and run the spectrogram,one can see if there is any image in it.It became famous with Aph3x tw1n song(equation/formula) where the singer's face appeared at the end.If you are interested,you can run any of bt5's mp3s on a spectrum analyzer.Maybe there are any images.Now this is just a suggestion but,that bl,sw &ts might have something interesting.This is a link for an analyzer.
https://academo.org/demos/spectrum-analyzer/

I looked up that website.

I uploaded that luv song.
This was the end

 

[Truthteller]

But Kanye is bipolar, so being sad and depressed is just a part of his life. It might not have to do with this stuff. People with this disorder at one point of time during the year are really depressed. Then it switches to very happy. This goes on until they die.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1120008184272490497

Vii is an emotional person. He likes art, he even draws. So if he isn't getting along with one member that alone can mess him up. They are together 24/7 during those promotions and touring.


Earlier you guys were talking about this I think:
It looks like he is getting even angrier when jamal says that.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1122221169426554880

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119863625194205185

Look how members get worried when they ask him if he want to make it right with someone on live tv. And they crack up when he mentions something irrelevant. Even candy smiled at that. Genie borderline scared or is it just me?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119873379635552256

And also feels like those 2 have a love/hate relationship. And you don't want to get on Jamal bad side.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1122138606167121920

I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:
https://twitter.com/kimvanadium/status/1121251023094292480?s=20
His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?
https://twitter.com/aroharmybaby/status/1116347866543345665?s=20
More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.
https://twitter.com/loverofoptimism/status/1119960924264095745?s=20

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.

 

[Chic]

I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121251023094292480

His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1116347866543345665

More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119960924264095745

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.

That is a thought.