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inquisitor said:
This video is being promoted by youtube right now.
It is a documentary about l0u p3arlm@n which is supposed to reveal the darkside of boy bands and stardom.It has interviews from members of many boy groups that worked with him.Worth a look,maybe.And billb0ard is promoting this video.:oops:
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So they got ripped off? lol I didn't know that.
Artists not being paid enough or barely given any money is something that is often seen in kpop. So I guess they have taken this from this guy.
 






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ddaeng said:
Hi everyone. So happy to find this thread and go down this crazy and sad rabbit hole. I'm learning SO much. I was hooked on BTS after they released Dope, but got extremely disinterested once they got popular in America. I feel like I'm going through a breakup because I just deleted all their pics from my phone haha.

I'm wondering if anyone is into astrology on here? I looked at a chart made up for their debut time and noticed some questionable things. But the big thing and maybe it's been mentioned on here was that they debuted on June 13th 2013. I don't know really anything about numerology, but with everything else it's like damnn

here's the blog with a person's interpretation. but of course i guess it's in a more positive light since they're a fan. https://bangtanastrology.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F167270981092
Also is anyone gonna watch the BBMAs? It's held on May 1st this year and incidentally, that's an occult holiday
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Ahhh...someone saw the technique I used? and switched up the time. umm...k.

Are you new here btw because a few posts back I've done a natalized event reading.

The debut hour is WRONG.

BTS's debut MV was released FIRST at 11:59 am before they debuted on stage which was later that day.

Most groups (at least these days) debut a MV first that have a debut STAGE.

Real debut hour is via. YouTube/internet, where most are first exposed to the energy of the event.

And of course the fan will sugarcoat the chart and tell amazing things and sure the chart promised success but there are TRANSITS and SOLAR RETURNS, even progressions involved that affects the event chart and you have to also see personal transits that affects the natal charts of the members. For example, Transit Uranus in Aries was one of the reasons why Jessica Jung (an Aries) left the group (Uranus conjunct Sun=need for freedom...and she was the ONLY Aries in that group) and the Solar Return of that year and the year prior for SNSD was bad and showed a break up. All you need is a badly aspected Saturn and Uranus. I checked out Seo Taiji and the boys and understood why they broke up. It takes one planet sometimes. Astrology shows a lot of dark and reality in charts; flaws of human nature. It's not of God. I'll be honest.

BTS won't last another 7 years, I'm only going to share that. This year is manifesting as I expected as I know a year ago it will be their hardest year since debut. It only will get worse on the world tour.
 






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"...Saturn in the 10th. it really sums up their 7 year long climb to success and recognition. Saturn brings challenges and obstacles, but also the resilience to overcome them. they’ve been through failure and know it well, but didn’t let it stop them. it took hard work to get the top and make as much of an impact they’ve made today..."
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Again, this fan has it wrong. This is why it's important to know the right time of debut. When BTS debuted at 11:59 am there was a Gemini mid-heaven in Seoul Korea, it pointed to the sky, it's the public-eye, and how we are viewed by others, this is the Mid-heaven. When they debuted, Jupiter was in Gemini. The transit began in June 2012 until late June 2013. it was a period of time when social media was building stronger especially YouTube. People around the world was antsy to gather information and share it.

Gemini mid-heaven rules computers and the media.

So the timing was right for the company to upload BTS's "No More Dream" on social media platforms when everyone was all around these platforms. They could have done the traditional route and debuted on stage FIRST like the older generational K-pop groups but didn't.

June was the month when many teenagers were out of school and on social media, they were wide awake at nearly 12:00 pm for sure, it's afternoon, lots of social activity. Gemini Sun was very social that month.

The Moon was also in Cancer in a critical degree (29th degree) that day, so A LOT of intense emotions that day for all of Korea, the world actually, a need to feel like they BELONG. This is Cancer's energy. To nurture. To protect. A family-like unification. And this is what I ask of BTS fans here, how were you FEELING at least 1 day before BTS's debut. A bit emotional? A desire to belong? How did "No More Dream" speak to you?

At 11:59 pm, Jupiter and the Sun was in their 10th house of again, the PUBLIC eye. So, there was an EXPANSION to their image (Jupiter does this, it expands) Jupiter blesses, brings LUCK. So actually...they did NOT need to work hard because Jupiter blessed them with an admired image already. Look closely on the SOCIAL MEDIA activity after they debuted. They were lucky. ARMY can't and will not accept that social media is the reason why BTS is successful.

Sun in the 10th is a classic aspect that gave the group brilliance, sort of a king like status. But it also made them targets to gossip because it's in the sign of Gemini. The ruler of the ascendant (Virgo), is also in the 10th house (Mercury) which makes them extra communicative towards the public.

Ascendant is appearances. Virgos in general are perfectionists, very hard-working and practical. BTS also appeared PURE to many. Like virgins or innocents. That's how they APPEARED to us, but it wasn't the reason why they are popular. It's Gemini mid-heaven.
 






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Again, this fan has it wrong. This is why it's important to know the right time of debut. When BTS debuted at 11:59 am there was a Gemini mid-heaven in Seoul Korea, it pointed to the sky, it's the public-eye, and how we are viewed by others, this is the Mid-heaven. When they debuted, Jupiter was in Gemini. The transit began in June 2012 until late June 2013. it was a period of time when social media was building stronger especially YouTube. People around the world was antsy to gather information and share it.

Gemini mid-heaven rules computers and the media.

So the timing was right for the company to upload BTS's "No" on social media platforms when everyone was all around these platforms. They could have done the traditional route and debuted on stage FIRST like the older generational K-pop groups but didn't.

June was the month when many teenagers were out of school and on social media, they were wide awake at nearly 12:00 pm for sure, it's afternoon, lots of social activity. Gemini Sun was very social that month.

The Moon was also in Cancer in a critical degree (29th degree) that day, so A LOT of intense emotions that day for all of Korea, the world actually, a need to feel like they BELONG. This is Cancer's energy. To nurture. To protect. A family-like unification. And this is what I ask of BTS fans here, how were you FEELING at least 1 day before BTS's debut. A bit emotional? A desire to belong? How did "No" speak to you?

At 11:59 pm, Jupiter and the Sun was in their 10th house of again, the PUBLIC eye. So, there was an EXPANSION to their image (Jupiter does this, it expands) Jupiter blesses, brings LUCK. So actually...they did NOT need to work hard because Jupiter blessed them with an admired image already. Look closely on the SOCIAL MEDIA activity after they debuted. They were lucky. ARMY can't and will not accept that social media is the reason why BTS is successful.

Sun in the 10th is a classic aspect that gave the group brilliance, sort of a king like status. But it also made them targets to gossip because it's in the sign of Gemini. The ruler of the ascendant (Virgo), is also in the 10th house (Mercury) which makes them extra communicative towards the public.

Ascendant is appearances. Virgos in general are perfectionists, very hard-working and practical. BTS also appeared PURE to many. Like virgins or innocents. That's how they APPEARED to us, but it wasn't the reason why they are popular. It's Gemini mid-heaven.
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Sooooo...their popularity is all a sham. They just got lucky.


Lol. I'm kidding a little. I have to admit, [true] astrology is too detailed and difficult to understand for my simple brain and I don't care to follow it so I stay away from it. These are some things to think about, though. But who behind the scenes is thinking of such intricate details and putting this much effort into such planning/timing? I know it happens but when you think about it, it's insane.


I wasn't into them when they debuted. N.O. isn't one of the songs I like by them either. It would be interesting to find out how others felt towards it.
 






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Chic said:
Sooooo...their popularity is all a sham. They just got lucky.


Lol. I'm kidding a little. I have to admit, [true] astrology is too detailed and difficult to understand for my simple brain and I don't care to follow it so I stay away from it. These are some things to think about, though. But who behind the scenes is thinking of such intricate details and putting this much effort into such planning/timing? I know it happens but when you think about it, it's insane.


I wasn't into them when they debuted. N.O. isn't one of the songs I like by them either. It would be interesting to find out how others felt towards it.
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I got No More Dream and N.O mixed together. It was No More Dream. But anyways, yeah astrology isn't for everyone. It's complex and a Pandora box. Sometimes I wish I didn't know too much. Many ARMY got into them because of a show called American Hustle. When there is Gemini-mid-heaven you tend to have career doing T.V stuff or something that involves a lot of communication/interaction and this was one of them. When Jupiter is there (10th house), all it gave was more opportunities. So yes it was Luck. I'm not denying their hard-work but it wasn't the MAIN reason why they are where they are. Media made them big. But in a few years people will get sick of social media.
 






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Dove28 said:
Ahhh...someone saw the technique I used? and switched up the time. umm...k.

Are you new here btw because a few posts back I've done a natalized event reading.

The debut hour is WRONG.

BTS's debut MV was released FIRST at 11:59 am before they debuted on stage which was later that day.

Most groups (at least these days) debut a MV first that have a debut STAGE.

Real debut hour is via. YouTube/internet, where most are first exposed to the energy of the event.

And of course the fan will sugarcoat the chart and tell amazing things and sure the chart promised success but there are TRANSITS and SOLAR RETURNS, even progressions involved that affects the event chart and you have to also see personal transits that affects the natal charts of the members. For example, Transit Uranus in Aries was one of the reasons why Jessica Jung (an Aries) left the group (Uranus conjunct Sun=need for freedom...and she was the ONLY Aries in that group) and the Solar Return of that year and the year prior for SNSD was bad and showed a break up. All you need is a badly aspected Saturn and Uranus. I checked out Seo Taiji and the boys and understood why they broke up. It takes one planet sometimes. Astrology shows a lot of dark and reality in charts; flaws of human nature. It's not of God. I'll be honest.

BTS won't last another 7 years, I'm only going to share that. This year is manifesting as I expected as I know a year ago it will be their hardest year since debut. It only will get worse on the world tour.
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Yes, I'm new and I haven't gone through the whole thread so I didn't know if someone else dipped into their charts. My bad. But I love your interpretation and noting how many things you have to consider. Thanks so much.
 






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Deadlylady said:
When people are saying why is this bad and they are successful. This is making the youth forgetting about god and searching happiness only through them.

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This is really sad to see...it looks like the agenda/goal of the elite of making young minds to deviate away from God, who we should be praying to and relying on, and instead towards them (idols/celebrities) is showing these results. This is the danger of idolatry - worshiping the creation rather than the creator. It's one thing to admire and enjoy something/someone but too be obsessed with it and making it your sole source of happiness/joy alone will only leave them empty in the long run coz these idols/celebrities are just as flawed human beings as we are...who are not perfect, will make mistakes...etc. Putting hope and reliance on things or persons that aren't meant to be stable or strong enough will only lead to disappointment when they fail us, which they will coz they're human, will in turn leave their hope in ruins which sometimes lead to people into depression/hopelessness. It's all a cycle of looking up and trusting in the wrong things that will never fill that void. That void alone that I believe could only be filled by someone Supernatural that's greater than mankind. Sorry was just spilling my thoughts as I saw this and it makes feel sadden what our generation has led up to.
 






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It's the sacrifice time of the year,which got me thinking,"How does a victim is selected?"
Recently,sister of a 1D guy died.Some people said that it's a sacrifice while some said it's an accident(drug overdose,her brother's friend from 1D hooked her onto drugs,it seems.)
Anyway,after some digging,found that (not saying that this is what happened in this case),usually,industry is run by favours,give and take.And those favours include all kinds,even for guys,as you guys might have already known.And when someone becomes old enough to attract pedos anymore ,then how does one continue to keep their standing?
Sacrifice,of course.
But,this scum of a people believe in numerology,palmistry,astrology and many other sorts of divinations and occult practices.You know this.And this next part is creepy.Not only do they select victim by numerology,they also select them based on the victim's horoscope and the transits at that time.
You see,they are not going after someone just because their age,date of birth or the date of sacrifice is fancy.They also need the horoscope to be good for such a deed to garner the most power from the act.
This matching of horoscopes with transits is also required when one has to select a victim from families of a group,like a boy band or a rock band.So,for the success of the group,some sifting through the horoscopes of friends and family is done before zeroing on someone.And then,according to that,they will time it.
A long time ago,someone did say on this thread or kp0p one about how j0nghyun was selected,not just because he is 27 but also because,there was a saturn return to it's own sign of capricorn after 27 years,considered extremely important by the occult.And due to his horoscope,he was selected.Of course,there might be other factors(souring of relations with others)that might've compounded his situation.But,this aspect is indeed important for these acts.RIP J0nghyun.
And there were wild fires in sk over April this year.The fire looks eerily similar to that of california,which many believe,was artificially created with directed energy weapons as a part of the fire ritual.Smh.Same old tropes in all parts of the world.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/world/asia/south-korea-fires.html
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"They" are devil worshiper and also do magic. But not like "h@rry p0tter". In real life magic is bad, there is not white or black only bad. Regular people use magic to make a husband and wife seperate or make a person fall madly in love with them. But with those money hungry people I guess they use it to earn a fortune and manipulate their industry.

In order to do magic first you have to sell you soul/your hereafter life in heaven. A person that does magic is condemning him/herself to hell. So after agreeing to that I heard they go into a cave or the forest and stay there in the dark isolated for days, even stay in their own feces etc. Then a demon/jinn comes to them and they make a pact. That's how the most famous magicians are doing "magic" like making people levited. Which is only demons holding the persons. It's only them working and doing what he or she wants but of course selling your soul is not enough after a while they will ask for sacrifices and to make more people give up their "soul". They do magic in different ways. Numerology etc is used to do magic. Also rituals where they do very nasty things and offerings. Burying spells into graves etc. Nowdays there is maybe a lot of people not even believing in god, but there are also a lot of famous and rich people believing/worshiping the devil himself.




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This is funny.

http://instagr.am/p/Bw1UCH8gLrc/
 






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What's the criteria for winning an award for being a top group? Music or having a strong social media presence. I mean One Direction winning 3 times says it all.

I feel sorry for the fans, it's like a drug, their fav continuously winning awards, it's like a high. Always winning and flaunting. Their wins is sort of like a security blanket. The coddle themselves with cheap recognition. Then the end begins...the emptiness grows. Nothing lasts forever. All the glitter and gold...

And I also feel sorry for the haters, probably feeling more enraged, empty, jealous, wishing their favs won so something to validate their existence. So sad.

Idol worship is just so empty. Honestly.
 






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Dove28 said:
What's the criteria for winning an award for being a top group? Music or having a strong social media presence. I mean One Direction winning 3 times says it all.

I feel sorry for the fans, it's like a drug, their fav continuously winning awards, it's like a high. Always winning and flaunting. Their wins is sort of like a security blanket. The coddle themselves with cheap recognition. Then the end begins...the emptiness grows. Nothing lasts forever. All the glitter and gold...

And I also feel sorry for the haters, probably feeling more enraged, empty, jealous, wishing their favs won so something to validate their existence. So sad.

Idol worship is just so empty. Honestly.
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I felt like they'd win for two reasons: so they won't be viewed as that Korean boy band who only wins social media fanbase awards and because it was simply given to them. Whatever the reason, it's still not about the music. I dont know what the criteria is. When I first heard they were nominated I assumed it was a made up category just for them. I dont know all of the categories for the BB MAs but it seemed that way to me. And now they've won. Not surprised.


They also won Top Social Media artist as expected.
 






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its not surprising if they win....like I said Bighit mediaplayed about this months ago "their big night at the BBMAS" and I heard even a korean channel was broadcasting the BBMAs for the first time this year (because they knew BTS were going to win)

in social media I saw BTS keep posting pictures with celebs saying "we met" this celebrity and this other celebrity

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1123789564114608130

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1123769735546638336

They brag about all the celebrities they meet....but these people are not their friends...they just take pictures because they are on the same "club"
(something similar happened with Blackpink at coachella).....this is the way of saying "we belong in the club" and brag about it
 






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