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I’m confused…If they are not “normal people” what are they?............


Happyalone…You truly are an interesting character…

“Hello guys / im so happy to finally join this forum with you, although its a little late this conversation have already more than 800 pages now ^^ but i wanted to be a part of this even by just thanking @Maggieca for making this place, so brilliant of her.
I hope this community grows day after day until the word is spread everywhere because people needs to wake up faster than ever.
god bless all of you” --> Nov 16, 2018, #16,350 – p818

But then something seems to have bitten you…

“The more time that passes the more this forum turns to poison.
Like honestly guys, do you realize how much time you spend spreading false information and negativity about these boys. LIKE what in the hell have they done wrong or bad to this world that you have witnessed with your mother eyes ?? Thats right : 0

But somehow you KNOW they are serial killers, occultists, gays, transgenders, magicians,devil worshippers, XD
I can say too that I KNOW you have killed any person you know who died, you do witchcraft to pass your exams, you are secretely a lesbian, and you will never prove me that those things aren't fact...

And btw how did that make you feel ?

to just make a bottom line to this: you do not know anything about bts,in fact they may be the most angelic sweet boys in this whole world but you could miss on that because you choose to believe what you want to believe.
Love yourself ♡” --> Feb 28, 2019 - #18,218 –p911

“What do you want to do with this knowledge ? End bts ? Get their attention ? Waste your time thinkinh that u are resolving one of the world's top problems ?” --> Mar 4, 2019 - #18,338 - p917

“You make fun of mental disorders, how wonderful !! I guess that's why you never liked bts from the first place because they are woke about the real issues of our generation : like mental illnesses which you dont know if they exist at all but you are just here concerned with these conspiracy theories that have not to do with reality...” --> Mar 4, 2019 - #18,329 - p917

???????????????????????????????????

What happened???


You even created a thread called “Symbolic Pic Of The Day”…

In your recent post (#18,749), you assimilated yourself as an army but:

I'm not fan of them, but I witnessed so many good things they do, and let's say that they have done bad things in this world, one day they will leave it like all of anyways, but what it's going to be left, is the message they passed to our generation !
so many people are very thankful to bts because they made them feel good and happy in their most darkest moments, so many girls are gaining confidence and loving themselves more because of bts, so many lives have changed because of bts's positivity!” --> Feb 28, 2019 - #18,225- p912

“Yall ever realize that mic drop is a song made for people like us ^^ like beyonce said in formation "yall haters corny with that illuminati mess"
Im sure none of yall gain something from reading, searching, analyzing things bts do unless someone pays you for that ;)

Be either a real fan or move the fuck on. I rememeber reading a quote that said " some are busy living their dreams and some are busy explaining those people's dreams"
What kind of knowledge is this ? Its the kind that breaks you not builds you, im sorry to hurt you with my words but yall seem so smart i dont want to see you wasting your intelligence over these losers.♡ ♡ happy new year to all of you ♡ ♡” --> Dec 16, 2018 - #17,162 - p859

Etc :rolleyes:…..

Sometimes, talking too much is not an advantage…If inconstancy in a character and scenario are found then what’s the point?...

You should be very careful Happyalone…

How privileged. Thank you for the spoilers…
yall seem so smart i dont want to see you wasting your intelligence over these losers
Did i lie ? did I FUCKING LIE ? XD I mean you literally gave your time and attention to make a post about my old fucking posts !!
:D
But if you are that curious to know why I said what I said, I will tell you :
I only joined after reading the first pages of this forum, the gold pages where people really cared about facts more than mere personal unpopular irrelevant ( and even sexist ) opinions about the members, I am here because I want to learn more about bts dark side, even without denying that i still love them for their bright side, it's really how it is supposed to be for everyone, you know this person who is involved in bad things and you are interested to know about that only because you love that person for the other good things about him, but you can tell that so many people here are only doing this because they want to damage the good side of bts and not expose their dark side !
If you just hate on bts and reclaim that every single thing about them is bad or evil, ur still not woke on what's really going, ur just a hater !
 





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I dont think we can know if they are bad or good people. If they were fooled and entered this dark world, or if they willing chose to do such things. And if they do these thigns knowing that they're bringing people to worship bad things and to be brainwashed, then they're not good. Thats what i think. But of course some of them may repent and leave the industry
 





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yall seem so smart i dont want to see you wasting your intelligence over these losers
Did i lie ? did I FUCKING LIE ? XD I mean you literally gave your time and attention to make a post about my old fucking posts !!
:D
But if you are that curious to know why I said what I said, I will tell you :
I only joined after reading the first pages of this forum, the gold pages where people really cared about facts more than mere personal unpopular irrelevant ( and even sexist ) opinions about the members, I am here because I want to learn more about bts dark side, even without denying that i still love them for their bright side, it's really how it is supposed to be for everyone, you know this person who is involved in bad things and you are interested to know about that only because you love that person for the other good things about him, but you can tell that so many people here are only doing this because they want to damage the good side of bts and not expose their dark side !
If you just hate on bts and reclaim that every single thing about them is bad or evil, ur still not woke on what's really going, ur just a hater !
AMEN amen preach girl preach you are so right
Are you done?Good now goodbye and next time don't ignore me when I put you to read. U want proof yet u are too lazy to read older info.
YH SO YOU ANNOYING B*CH just stop claiming you know anything when all you do is exactly what you claim we do: interpret things in the way you want.
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I think that there is a possibility that he is clinically depressed, however it is not possible to diagnose someone based on some short clips of them feeling unwell. He is trying to make it seem like everything is ok, but he really wasnt feeling well at all and it showed. It is evident is that he is very tired and sick while being required to perform in front of people many nights in a row. That alone is enough to make anyone look sad and burned out. He was barely able to stand on his feet.


Here is a clip of Jk being unable to walk after the concert.






Michael Jackson was probably killed, doesnt change the fact that he was a p***phile. Far too much evidence, even before his documentrary Leaving Neverland came out. I mean you guys dont know what a person with actual multiple personality disorder is like, it is not this. That is very rare and the victim has gone through some severe abuse at a very young age (5-7). Even war victims dont develop this. Mk ultra is symbolic and represents the elite’s control over their tools. It is not actual mutiple personality disorder which is too severe, a person with it could not hold a public job.
I recommend the followung videos: warning triggering content. First video shows people with MPD, second video entails what kind of abuse during childhood we are talking about. Even this girl didnt develop MPD and she is a victim of satanic ritual abuse of the political elite in the UK.



I'm not knocking your posts at all, however, in this stance, most of these decisions are pure choice. I'm not commenting on Michael being a p***phile, because every person who is a elite member is a p***phile. When I used Michael Jackson as an example, I used him for this reason. Michael started speaking against Sony Records, and had regain rights to his music. That means all of the money that Michael had accumulated over the years for the company went right back to him. That means they were no longer getting his earrings from his music. Michael Jackson turned his own net worth from millions to billions. Sony did not like that decision, he also spoke against Sony Records, and made a mockery out of them. They took Michael Jackson out for that Sole purpose. Michael wanted out completely. However, they killed him.


Same thing with R. Kelly.. He doesn't own any of his music, which is why he is in bankruptcy, and they are trying to take down his legacy with these accusations. Not saying he didn't do any of the things that he is/was accused of, but there is always a reasoning behind the madness.

I call multiple personalities demons. I believe in possession, and being tempted by the cares of this world. (Not going to preach lol). When Taehyung really wants out, you will see scandals happening, and the scandals will pop out of thin air. Like I said, watch Bohemian Rhapsody. When Freddie Mercury Fired his Manager, the manager started telling all of his business. That he slepy with men, had a disease and all. (Which Freddie Mercury did do those things). However, Freddie tried to become a better person, and that's when the scandals started to come out.
 





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I'm not knocking your posts at all, however, in this stance, most of these decisions are pure choice. I'm not commenting on Michael being a p***phile, because every person who is a elite member is a p***phile. When I used Michael Jackson as an example, I used him for this reason. Michael started speaking against Sony Records, and had regain rights to his music. That means all of the money that Michael had accumulated over the years for the company went right back to him. That means they were no longer getting his earrings from his music. Michael Jackson turned his own net worth from millions to billions. Sony did not like that decision, he also spoke against Sony Records, and made a mockery out of them. They took Michael Jackson out for that Sole purpose. Michael wanted out completely. However, they killed him.


Same thing with R. Kelly.. He doesn't own any of his music, which is why he is in bankruptcy, and they are trying to take down his legacy with these accusations. Not saying he didn't do any of the things that he is/was accused of, but there is always a reasoning behind the madness.

I call multiple personalities demons. I believe in possession, and being tempted by the cares of this world. (Not going to preach lol). When Taehyung really wants out, you will see scandals happening, and the scandals will pop out of thin air. Like I said, watch Bohemian Rhapsody. When Freddie Mercury Fired his Manager, the manager started telling all of his business. That he slepy with men, had a disease and all. (Which Freddie Mercury did do those things). However, Freddie tried to become a better person, and that's when the scandals started to come out.
MJ got his hair and head burned very badly during one Pepsi commercial maybe it was a wake up call who knows. But they also say that the elite gave him vitiligo because they didn't want a colored person to be the king of pop. There are so many rumors. And even his children were born from other people he wasn't their biological father, which I found weird why didn't he want to be their biological father? Everything is rumors if you ask me. Those men should go through a lie detector. Because they are and have been money hungry people.



 





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MJ got his hair and head burned very badly during one Pepsi commercial maybe it was a wake up call who knows. But they also say that the elite gave him vitiligo because they didn't want a colored person to be the king of pop. There are so many rumors. And even his children were born from other people he wasn't their biological father, which I found weird why didn't he want to be their biological father? Everything is rumors if you ask me. Those men should go through a lie detector. Because they are and have been money hungry people.



all the current allegations are just another ploy to tear down his reputation and legacy too, nothing new as to what MJ has been facing even when he was alive. Mainstream media including that "documentary" have no reliable and relevant facts attached to their stories to prove him guilty of these accusations so I don't find them credible. If people were to do their own research on this subject and timelines, they'll understand what's real.
 





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Wow.....just wow..........for a while,been literally saying that this is what the company is planning to do(planning to sell shares) and they go and do just that.............guess I called it:)
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-890#post-186255

However,
There are already reports denying this sale
https://www.soompi.com/article/1312...s-reports-of-bang-shi-hyuk-selling-his-shares
https://www.allkpop.com/article/201...sold-his-equity-in-the-company-for-57-million

But..........they didn't make a definitive denial of the deal........they simply said that the details can't be specified and those in the comments are guessing that maybe he did sell the shares after all,but is planning to keep it a secret for now.
So,it looks like they really are going public and all the media play we've been seeing over the past few weeks including the scandals(however unrelated they seem...... https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-923#post-192061) is to drum up the goodwill of the company so as to inflate the price of the stocks before an ipo.......Wonder why that one reporter spoke of bankruptcy......since,he mentioned that,there is only good news about the company.
Also, @cadiz under the twitter post you mentioned,fan(atic)s are contemplating to buy the stocks themselves so that they can own the company and the groups......yes,a different level of dedication or desire to literally possess them........they know that who owns the company owns the groups so,planning to do just that..........but the company is not foolish to give up on their golden goose that easily.

Right now,the boss owns 50.88% of the shares while his cousin owns around 30%.....it's funny how they have around 20% unaccounted shares which I believe are held by the bt3 and other staff of the company..........that is one of the tricks of a startup company or a company that starts small.......it offers stocks to its employees(as an incentive) so that everyone works to increase it's value which will in turn reap them profits........facebook did it as well in the beginning.
As for the supposed sale of shares.......there are many likely scenarios.
it could be more likely that bt3 members itself bought the shares (it may even be a part of their new contract)of around 8%(which still makes the boss,the biggest share holder with 42%).......they've each been making around 10 million a year over the past few years and with their families chipping in,it could be possible for them to buy the shares(value around 50 million)...........
with their supposed biggest comeback around the corner...............the company's plans to go public while recruiting more groups(auditions were already announced)...........and their impending enlistment...........all these reasons could make this a ripe opportunity for them to make a lot of money if they invest in the company now.
Or .....Jyp really bought the shares as part of the rumoured merger between the two companies but they don't want to make it public just yet due to the recent report of the four companies' sales and profits over the last financial year........and any reports of the mergers now will sound like attempts to break the fair competition rules of the companies and unnecessarily draw attention to the deal.
Or.....some western companies or someone influential in the government bought the shares as part of their promotion deal for the comeback and have to keep it secret due to confidentiality clause..........bigheat would milk publicity from anything so the reports came of the sale......but when the purchasing company/entity reminded the confidentiality clause,they had to retract the report.......however,bigheat being bigheat,they didn't overtly deny it thus keeping it open for speculation.
Or .....there really was no deal and they are simply trying to make buzz to guage the investor's interest in the company and decide whether to go public or wait.


On a side note.........whenever there are reports about the company making deals,there are a lot of comments that it could be jinnie......people are joking that he should take over the company,for some reason..........with that old news of him buying an apartment in the same building as the company's dormitories for trainees and people speculating that he might be the one in most contact with the company that way........and he was the one wearing the hooved shoes in some photoshoots and the one who gave tea wings in bs&t in satanist's backwards version...........
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-871#post-178498
so,it makes one wonder.
 





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Wow.....just wow..........for a while,been literally saying that this is what the company is planning to do(planning to sell shares) and they go and do just that.............guess I called it:)
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-891#post-186255

However,
There are already reports denying this sale
https://www.soompi.com/article/1312...s-reports-of-bang-shi-hyuk-selling-his-shares
https://www.allkpop.com/article/201...sold-his-equity-in-the-company-for-57-million

But..........they didn't make a definitive denial of the deal........they simply said that the details can't be specified and those in the comments are guessing that maybe he did sell the shares after all,but is planning to keep it a secret for now.
So,it looks like they really are going public and all the media play we've been seeing over the past few weeks including the scandals(however unrelated they seem...... https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-923#post-192061) is to drum up the goodwill of the company so as to inflate the price of the stocks before an ipo.......Wonder why that one reporter spoke of bankruptcy......since,he mentioned that,there is only good news about the company.
Also, @cadiz under the twitter post you mentioned,fan(atic)s are contemplating to buy the stocks themselves so that they can own the company and the groups......yes,a different level of dedication or desire to literally possess them........they know that who owns the company owns the groups so,planning to do just that..........but the company is not foolish to give up on their golden goose that easily.

Right now,the boss owns 50.88% of the shares while his cousin owns around 30%.....it's funny how they have around 20% unaccounted shares which I believe are held by the bt3 and other staff of the company..........that is one of the tricks of a startup company or a company that starts small.......it offers stocks to its employees(as an incentive) so that everyone works to increase it's value which will in turn reap them profits........facebook did it as well in the beginning.
As for the supposed sale of shares.......there are many likely scenarios.
it could be more likely that bt3 members itself bought the shares (it may even be a part of their new contract)of around 8%(which still makes the boss,the biggest share holder with 42%).......they've each been making around 10 million a year over the past few years and with their families chipping in,it could be possible for them to buy the shares(value around 50 million)...........
with their supposed biggest comeback around the corner...............the company's plans to go public while recruiting more groups(auditions were already announced)...........and their impending enlistment...........all these reasons could make this a ripe opportunity for them to make a lot of money if they invest in the company now.
Or .....Jyp really bought the shares as part of the rumoured merger between the two companies but they don't want to make it public just yet due to the recent report of the four companies' sales and profits over the last financial year........and any reports of the mergers now will sound like attempts to break the fair competition rules of the companies and unnecessarily draw attention to the deal.
Or.....some western companies or someone influential in the government bought the shares as part of their promotion deal for the comeback and have to keep it secret due to confidentiality clause..........bigheat would milk publicity from anything so the reports came of the sale......but when the purchasing company/entity reminded the confidentiality clause,they had to retract the report.......however,bigheat being bigheat,they didn't overtly deny it thus keeping it open for speculation.
Or .....there really was no deal and they are simply trying to make buzz to guage the investor's interest in the company and decide whether to go public or wait.


On a side note.........whenever there are reports about the company making deals,there are a lot of comments that it could be jinnie......people are joking that he should take over the company,for some reason..........with that old news of him buying an apartment in the same building as the company's dormitories for trainees and people speculating that he might be the one in most contact with the company that way........and he was the one wearing the hooved shoes in some photoshoots and the one who gave tea wings in bs&t in satanist's backwards version...........
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-871#post-178498
so,it makes one wonder.
yep, and i believe he is in debt with the company, so your theory could be right
 





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Yes, this next comeback is inspired by Murray Stein's book Jung’s Map of the Soul: An Introduction. A Jungian Analyst name Laura London spoke on this and BTS.

Q: If we are identifying with only one of the masks we wear then would you say that we are not in touch with the Self, that we abandoned it?

A: It's possible, yeah, it's possible. Optimal is that you can play the role consciously, more or less consciously, without losing yourself in it and without identifying with it.

And I was quite impressed by Kim Namjoon, RM as he is called, I guess he is the leader of the BTS group, when he spoke at the United Nations, Generation Unlimited speech. The speech he made I watched couple of times on YouTube. And what impressed me about that was that he kept the distinction carefully between who he was as a boy growing up in a small village outside of Seoul, Korea and who he is publicly and famously now - a star and the firmament of the entertainment world. And if he were to identify with that role totally he would lose contact with himself, with the boy he was, with the human being that he is. He would be un-grounded.

And when that happens then you are out of contact with the Self and you are terribly vulnerable to what other people think and say about you. Because once you enter into the public domain everything depends on their admiration, their approval, their lifting you up to the pedestal. And when they stop you would have nothing, you would be empty. And then you would have to go on a quest for the Self and find your link again to the core of yourself. But that core of yourself usually is best discovered through going back and tracing your history and looking into your childhood and your heritage and your family. And then even beyond that to a kind of archetypal or transcendent sense of Self that underlies everything.

Q: Just to give briefly a little bit of background on BTS: there are seven members of the band, they are all men. Not going to call them boys because they range in age from 21 to 26. And the gentleman you were just referring to, RM, he is the translator of the group, I believe he is the only one who speaks English, he is 24 years old, he is so articulate, gave such an eloquent speech..

A: Very moving speech, very, very touching.

Q: Yes, it was. And it was in September of last year. And just a couple more things. They were the most retweeted celebrities in the world in 2017-2018. And in October they were featured on the cover of Time magazine, their international edition, as the next generation leaders. So it has been just a whirlwind for both you, Dr. Stein and myself on twitter this past week of all the attention that our tweets have been getting by the BTS ARMY which is what their fan-base is known as.

A: Well, there were some questions that came in from the fanbase that I would like to address if you could read them off to me, Laura.

Q: Yes, so the first question I have here from twitter, this is from Kookie Crumbles, she asks: I would love an open ended question to Dr. Stein about how he first became aware of BTS's interest in and focus on his and Jung's work and what he would most want to convey to people meeting Jung and the concept of Persona for the first time.

A: Well, let me start with how I met BTS. At my age I'm quite out of touch with that Post-Millennial or Millennial generation although I have grandchildren in that age group. So I haven't heard anything about BTS. I live in Switzerland, sort of out of the way when it comes to popular culture here. And I'm very involved in Jungian world and I don't know how many Jungian analysts worldwide know about BTS although I have asked some of my colleagues and a few of them have acknowledged that they have patients who are fans of BTS (lol). But it came to my attention from a Japanese student at the school in Zürich who asked me: did you know that your book is being recommended on the web-site of the BTS group? And I asked him who that was and he told me: they are very well-known in Japan, they have a huge following there. So I googled it, looked at it and sure enough, my book, Jung’s Map of the Soul, was listed along with Demian by Hermann Hesse and The Art of Loving by Erich Fromm. And I felt in very good company! My goodness how did I get there? And then I have discovered later that they have taken quite an interest in Jung's work, that Jung's name is mentioned occasionally in some of their songs. And then suddenly I was told, I guess a week or so ago, that their new album is titled Map of the Soul: Persona. And of course that floored me! And I then was contacted by ARMY, the fan-group, who discuss the meaning of their lyrics and so on, I have become more familiar with them. And I must say I'm thrilled that they have taken an interest in Jung and in my book.
She finishes here:
That Jung's message and Jung's vision is being transmitted to people who otherwise would never hear about him or pay any attention to what he has to offer. Because I think what Jung has to offer in this century is a vision of wholeness and a vision of integrity and human rights that would be so valuable for people all over the world to come into contact with and to study and to integrate into their daily life. Jung's message is a very hopeful one. That our unconscious is a spark of light, it is creative, it has much to offer to us if we pay attention to it, it gives us inner guidance. And really his emphasis on the sacredness of the individual and the importance of the individual to take responsibility for his or her own life and to take responsibility for the planet and for the world. I think that's the message that we really need today and that's what I hope would come across - that we need to be strong individuals, we need to be able to name ourselves and find ourselves and to take responsibility for the world around us.

Psychology; it's theories and concepts are always modifying, so for her to conclude that the unconscious is "a spark of light" is ignorant and flat out dangerous. The majority of the ARMY fandom don't even have access to proper mental health treatment, let alone qualified therapists who can perhaps help them navigate their problems so why promote this mystical methodology? The unconscious can hold VERY dark things too, that sometimes is best to be left alone if you don't have proper guidance from a professional.

She isn't really honest with herself, the majority of ARMY don't want to understand themselves APART from BTS.

I like psychology but understand that it has it flaws. A lot of people like her romanticize Carl Jung. He was misogynist, he had sex with clients, he suffered from schizophrenia, he deeply criticized Christian theologians, he was apart of a cult and practiced occult magic.

Laura London practices Transcendental Mediation, Kundalini Yoga, astrology, Tibetan Buddhism. I can't take her seriously honestly, especially on her views on RM. Did she bother to read the lyrics from his mono mix-tape? He's still disturbed by his own celebrity. He hates it. He is lost in it, he's fragmented like the rest of the members.
 





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The mysterious Jung: his cult, the lies he told, and the occult
https://www.hgi.org.uk/resources/de...terious-jung-his-cult-lies-he-told-and-occult

  • "....It began with a deification experience in late 1913 while he was inducing visionary states in himself what he was later to interpret as an initiation into an ancient Hellenistic mystery cult. Mithras..."
  • "....So, getting back to the cult issue, you have a charismatic leader who claims to be in contact with a transcendence reality and, by being in contact with him, you can also, potentially, be in contact with that transcendent reality. Moreover, you can only do it through Jung's form of analysis, which he re-frames during World War I as a kind of religious initiation..."
  • "....Jung saw psychoanalysis as path of redemption, of revitalization, of rebirth. Indeed, he wrote of psychoanalysis becoming a totaling world-view saying: “great is the power of the psychoanalytic truth, and it will prevail”. For him, psychoanalysis was the new salvation of the world, with Jung as the prophet who understood its religious nature. Religion, he believed, could only be replaced by another religion..."
  • "...He was saying that gods ruled the collective unconscious. I'm simply saying that Jung was using, or rather hiding behind, psychological jargon to reintroduce the Hellenistic cosmos..."
  • "...If you were actually somebody in need (as Edith Rockefeller was, she was on the edge of a breakdown) Jung basically just opened up your head to his crazy ideas and made it fuzzier. His techniques took away people's ability to focus their attention and to separate out thoughts. Their cognitive resources were just shot to hell after a while because all he did was induce visions all the time. His patients were constantly lost in their dreams and visions, looking for mythic symbols, signs of Greek gods and goddesses..."
 





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Yes, this next comeback is inspired by Murray Stein's book Jung’s Map of the Soul: An Introduction. A Jungian Analyst name Laura London spoke on this and BTS.



She finishes here:
That Jung's message and Jung's vision is being transmitted to people who otherwise would never hear about him or pay any attention to what he has to offer. Because I think what Jung has to offer in this century is a vision of wholeness and a vision of integrity and human rights that would be so valuable for people all over the world to come into contact with and to study and to integrate into their daily life. Jung's message is a very hopeful one. That our unconscious is a spark of light, it is creative, it has much to offer to us if we pay attention to it, it gives us inner guidance. And really his emphasis on the sacredness of the individual and the importance of the individual to take responsibility for his or her own life and to take responsibility for the planet and for the world. I think that's the message that we really need today and that's what I hope would come across - that we need to be strong individuals, we need to be able to name ourselves and find ourselves and to take responsibility for the world around us.

Psychology; it's theories and concepts are always modifying, so for her to conclude that the unconscious is "a spark of light" is ignorant and flat out dangerous. The majority of the ARMY fandom don't even have access to proper mental health treatment, let alone qualified therapists who can perhaps help them navigate their problems so why promote this mystical methodology? The unconscious can hold VERY dark things too, that sometimes is best to be left alone if you don't have proper guidance from a professional.

She isn't really honest with herself, the majority of ARMY don't want to understand themselves APART from BTS.

I like psychology but understand that it has it flaws. A lot of people like her romanticize Carl Jung. He was misogynist, he had sex with clients, he suffered from schizophrenia, he deeply criticized Christian theologians, he was apart of a cult and practiced occult magic.

Laura London practices Transcendental Mediation, Kundalini Yoga, astrology, Tibetan Buddhism. I can't take her seriously honestly, especially on her views on RM. Did she bother to read the lyrics from his mono mix-tape? He's still disturbed by his own celebrity. He hates it. He is lost in it, he's fragmented like the rest of the members.
What you said about Jung is true........Jung is an occultist and most of his theories have been debunked by later psychologists.......... and like you mentioned in the other post,he worked through appealing to the inner psyche and confusing the already mentally troubled patients with his lies.
And that Laura l0nd0n is in the occult........Her mentioning the group and one eyed itself is a red flag..........and the mention of the un speech........if you guys remember,I did mention that they will keep reminding of the speech everytime the group is talked about to show their reach.......but,the weird thing is the un officials don't seem to know who the group is or even if it is a group .........."what is bt3?" and "who is bt3?" the un spokespersons asked.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-885#post-184772

Mental health has been a burning topic in the public domain,of late,especially with the influence of many tv series and other media content including bt3 focusing on mental health topics.......some are even thinking that it is fashionable to have mental problems...... being depressed is being showed off as a badge with people mentioning it casually(not looking down on mental problems here,they are real and have to be treated with care and not to be showed off without proper awareness)...........
now,not many know the real truth about Jung..........due to glorification of him and his theories in the mainstream media,people consider him an authority figure in mental health.........and so,believe his lies.........which brings to the group promoting his theories and kind of influencing their millions of impressionable youthful fans to buy these lies........many of these so called "experts" are used by the 'elite' to influence the public's opinion..........it's just like l0nd0n mentioned.....many of her psychology colleagues have patients from the fandom(a fact that makes her chuckle,wonder why).......due to bt3's suggestion,her book is flying off shelves,the whole fandom is following her and contacting her and asking her opinions........she got attention and success with her book..........she returns the favour by appreciating the group and giving fans what they want to hear......the fans will be happy that their group is thoughtful and knowledgeable and this kind of gives them bragging rights......this is quid pro quo......just like that hyundai deal and the research findings.

However,the additional aspect here is that more people are introduced to Jungian theories and the elite gets to promote it's propaganda.............most of these famous psychologists including l0nd0n are in the know and are involved in the programming..........and if you check her recent tweets about persona,she is openly promoting the concepts of "alters"...........infact the agenda seems to be to promote this concept and normalise the appearance and disappearance of alters.....to make it quite a normal occurrence(like how they promote compartmentalising different experiences).
This four level concept is not of Jung's original idea.....it is lifted from Qabalah which mentions 4 levels to reach the divine womb(physical,astral,spiritual and divine).......( http://www.fellowshipofisiscentral.com/star-of-ishtar---the-four-levels )
.....whatever rosy explanation they give,guys......this 4 level concept and 4 parts of album is carefully planned to initiate public into the occult and take control of their minds.......first they whet your intellectual appetite and once you take the bait,they reel in and before you know it,you are ensnared..............be warned.
 





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@Dove28 In my opinion this concept is all propaganda by Big Hit and a way to lure more fans, make them believe BTS can help them with mental health problems

RM mixtape is full of self- Hating songs and in BTS comic the characters are suicidal....the fans are being exposed to that kind of negative energy all the time

And about their comeback.....do we really think BTS members read that book or care about it?
Maybe RM did....but the others are just following the concept that Big Hit made for them
 





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I'm surprised any of them are able to walk, they seem to have been touring forever and they're now going on a stadium tour and a come back, with promotion etc.?

On a side note.........whenever there are reports about the company making deals,there are a lot of comments that it could be jinnie......people are joking that he should take over the company,for some reason..........with that old news of him buying an apartment in the same building as the company's dormitories for trainees and people speculating that he might be the one in most contact with the company that way........and he was the one wearing the hooved shoes in some photoshoots and the one who gave tea wings in bs&t in satanist's backwards version...........
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-871#post-178498
so,it makes one wonder.
This is interesting. Particularly since he's the one who comes from a very rich family, right? Often, the members of groups who seem like they don't contribute much are there for a reason. And people never really suspect them because they seem quite harmless, and Jin is often dismissed as useless or silly. But I wouldn't be surprised if he's the main liaison with the company and higher-ups, or a combination of him and RM.
 





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