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"What if they did something bad to get fame?Does it matter?
Just be happy for others' success,rather than trying to point out what they might've done behind the scene.
What will you get by pointing out any negative side of those who have success?
Does it make you feel higher or better?You will only be stuck in this negative point of view.
And,they will keep doing their thing anyway and have success."
This is what an acquaintance has to say when I tried to show them the truth behind the showbiz.
So,what is your take on this,guys?:)
This is a sign of a sick mentality.. The weakest sign of a goodness in a human is to Atleast condemn what is wrong if you can't stop the bad thing by hand..
 

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I see... yes he's too, a victim.
But one thing for sure, he knows better than the rest of members. The book he's reading and other dark philosophy and occult/satanic in the core.



Hmm, like how do you think he managed Vii?

And wow, "after performances they have to grab him sometimes"

wait what?! what do u mean?
lol I'm sorry If I wasn't clear enough there. (English is not my first language) When I said grab him, I meant they have to pull him sometimes after their performances when it's time to go. He tends to linger on stage or his mind wanders off. And "handle" like cover for him maybe in a way I don't know how to explain it in english very well. Like a parent has to be understanding of his child that acts out. And he says ok, lets go or tries to do the same thng he does so he doesn't get angry or upset. When posing you can seem him even putting his hand over him/hugging him even so he feels better and not left out etc. You know what I mean? :) Don't get me wrong guys.
 

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"What if they did something bad to get fame?Does it matter?
Just be happy for others' success,rather than trying to point out what they might've done behind the scene.
What will you get by pointing out any negative side of those who have success?
Does it make you feel higher or better?You will only be stuck in this negative point of view.
And,they will keep doing their thing anyway and have success."
This is what an acquaintance has to say when I tried to show them the truth behind the showbiz.
So,what is your take on this,guys?:)
I would say this to them:
This is not like cheating on a test bad. This is like messing up the whole world youth mind. And we are talking about people worshiping the devil himself. They want to end gender and religion altogether.

"Selling" your soul to the devil and with that condemning your eternal life in the hereafter to hell. Just for money and only for a short time that they will be spending in this world, is that worth it? Can we really call that being "sucessful"? (I don't think so)

It doesn't make us feel anything. Only a psycho would be happy that people are doing bad stuff. Pointing out the negative stuff is only to be aware and be ready to fight against it. To wake people against it etc. There is a saying "Keep your friend close and keep your enemy closer" Nobody is "stuck" to anything. There isn't any positive side to the devil and his work. But I understand what you're saying. A positive way is that the members are praying for them to see the right path and leave this industry. But just like another person said before "Fame is like a poisonous honey that kills the heart. And makes a person slave/servant to the people." So earning a lot a money is not always good. Would you sell your soul and put your eternal life in the hereafter in jeopardy just for "money"? Do not forget that this life is temporary. And don't be so materialistic that's not healthy.
 
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What kind of fan service is that?
http://instagr.am/p/BwzTFgXgbWv/

And I was trying not to mention it but I have because Genie fell on the "idol" song when he was in the middle of the stage.
And call me crazy because I don't think this is just a coincidence.

And also jamal almost lived the same fate as MJ. He almost got burned by a firework.
 
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You can see that despite all the happy faces there is a real struggle.
http://instagr.am/p/Bwzcrb5gCBV/
Jk looks worried.
If all of these years his persona was indeed just an act, a scripted character to hold 24/7 , it is indeed very sad.

Looking at the actual performance it doesnt look like they're looking directly at each other. It could just be from this person's angle and thus it's feeding into the whole Taekook shipping frenzy.

Edit: See the screenshot I added in case anyone doesn't want to watch it.
 

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look at their expresions....Sugar eyes are so telling
Just observing this you can tell they dont enjoy fanservice or the stupid things they have to do

I think most of them are fed up .....I start to believe this group wont be here for much loger tbh. I feel like we are watching the end stages of something (might be my wishful thinking but.....they are strange)
 
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look at their expresions....Sugar eyes are so telling
Just observing this you can tell they dont enjoy fanservice or the stupid things they have to do

I think most of them are fed up .....I start to believe this group wont be here for much loger tbh. I feel like we are watching the end stages of something (might be my wishful thinking but.....they are strange)
Kpop in korea is mostly targeting kids and teenagers. The fans are deeply into that baby cute stuff. And maybe that's why those groups don't usually continue their career into their 30 and up.
 

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Hi everyone. So happy to find this thread and go down this crazy and sad rabbit hole. I'm learning SO much. I was hooked on BTS after they released Dope, but got extremely disinterested once they got popular in America. I feel like I'm going through a breakup because I just deleted all their pics from my phone haha.

I'm wondering if anyone is into astrology on here? I looked at a chart made up for their debut time and noticed some questionable things. But the big thing and maybe it's been mentioned on here was that they debuted on June 13th 2013. I don't know really anything about numerology, but with everything else it's like damnn

here's the blog with a person's interpretation. but of course i guess it's in a more positive light since they're a fan. https://bangtanastrology.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F167270981092
Also is anyone gonna watch the BBMAs? It's held on May 1st this year and incidentally, that's an occult holiday
 

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Astrology itself is occult/pagan in origin and root. Nothing good come out of it. Don't read into it.
The stars or the heavens (galaxy, planets, sun and moon included) were created by God to show His power and majesty. They are God's handiwork. They are also for signs and seasons. The signs as in the sense of navigational “indicators".

The heavens are not for “interpretation” of an assumed influence the stars (and planets) exert on human destiny. Read more here.
To my fellow Christians, God condemns the practice of divination and sorcery. So let's not play around with those practices. I attached a picture of bible verses that mention the practice of divination.

We're discussing BT$ involvement with the darkness so let's not bring one of the darkness teachings in here.
 

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Looking at the actual performance it doesnt look like they're looking directly at each other. It could just be from this person's angle and thus it's feeding into the whole Taekook shipping frenzy.

Edit: See the screenshot I added in case anyone doesn't want to watch it.
That was silly of me. Looking at the stage they were not looking at eachother and the clip was taken during a rap solo in the boy with luv part. Tae was just taking a moment to breath. I fell to the taekook shippers once again. Thank you for correcting me
 

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That was silly of me. Looking at the stage they were not looking at eachother and the clip was taken during a rap solo in the boy with luv part. Tae was just taking a moment to breath. I fell to the taekook shippers once again. Thank you for correcting me
It's okay I thought too before realising it was just an angle.
When I discovered them (bts) thank to taekook, I thought they were real.
 

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That was silly of me. Looking at the stage they were not looking at eachother and the clip was taken during a rap solo in the boy with luv part. Tae was just taking a moment to breath. I fell to the taekook shippers once again. Thank you for correcting me

No problem. Shippers love taking things out of context, making things appear the way they want to interpret it. It almost fooled me too lol.
 

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So recently I've come across this video that is weird/creepy and has a lot of evil symbolism. The video dates back to 2012.But the man behind the video said that making the video took about 6years. So this is actually from 2006.

Strangely it depicts the exact fire/burning of Notre Dame de Paris.

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So coming to bêtise.

Monsta solo song personality. First of all it takes place in a school room at first just like in that video.
And I felt that this too is very similar.


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This video is being promoted by youtube right now.
It is a documentary about l0u p3arlm@n which is supposed to reveal the darkside of boy bands and stardom.It has interviews from members of many boy groups that worked with him.Worth a look,maybe.And billb0ard is promoting this video.:oops:
So they got ripped off? lol I didn't know that.
Artists not being paid enough or barely given any money is something that is often seen in kpop. So I guess they have taken this from this guy.
 
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Hi everyone. So happy to find this thread and go down this crazy and sad rabbit hole. I'm learning SO much. I was hooked on BTS after they released Dope, but got extremely disinterested once they got popular in America. I feel like I'm going through a breakup because I just deleted all their pics from my phone haha.

I'm wondering if anyone is into astrology on here? I looked at a chart made up for their debut time and noticed some questionable things. But the big thing and maybe it's been mentioned on here was that they debuted on June 13th 2013. I don't know really anything about numerology, but with everything else it's like damnn

here's the blog with a person's interpretation. but of course i guess it's in a more positive light since they're a fan. https://bangtanastrology.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F167270981092
Also is anyone gonna watch the BBMAs? It's held on May 1st this year and incidentally, that's an occult holiday
Ahhh...someone saw the technique I used? and switched up the time. umm...k.

Are you new here btw because a few posts back I've done a natalized event reading.

The debut hour is WRONG.

BTS's debut MV was released FIRST at 11:59 am before they debuted on stage which was later that day.

Most groups (at least these days) debut a MV first that have a debut STAGE.

Real debut hour is via. YouTube/internet, where most are first exposed to the energy of the event.

And of course the fan will sugarcoat the chart and tell amazing things and sure the chart promised success but there are TRANSITS and SOLAR RETURNS, even progressions involved that affects the event chart and you have to also see personal transits that affects the natal charts of the members. For example, Transit Uranus in Aries was one of the reasons why Jessica Jung (an Aries) left the group (Uranus conjunct Sun=need for freedom...and she was the ONLY Aries in that group) and the Solar Return of that year and the year prior for SNSD was bad and showed a break up. All you need is a badly aspected Saturn and Uranus. I checked out Seo Taiji and the boys and understood why they broke up. It takes one planet sometimes. Astrology shows a lot of dark and reality in charts; flaws of human nature. It's not of God. I'll be honest.

BTS won't last another 7 years, I'm only going to share that. This year is manifesting as I expected as I know a year ago it will be their hardest year since debut. It only will get worse on the world tour.
 
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"...Saturn in the 10th. it really sums up their 7 year long climb to success and recognition. Saturn brings challenges and obstacles, but also the resilience to overcome them. they’ve been through failure and know it well, but didn’t let it stop them. it took hard work to get the top and make as much of an impact they’ve made today..."
Again, this fan has it wrong. This is why it's important to know the right time of debut. When BTS debuted at 11:59 am there was a Gemini mid-heaven in Seoul Korea, it pointed to the sky, it's the public-eye, and how we are viewed by others, this is the Mid-heaven. When they debuted, Jupiter was in Gemini. The transit began in June 2012 until late June 2013. it was a period of time when social media was building stronger especially YouTube. People around the world was antsy to gather information and share it.

Gemini mid-heaven rules computers and the media.

So the timing was right for the company to upload BTS's "No More Dream" on social media platforms when everyone was all around these platforms. They could have done the traditional route and debuted on stage FIRST like the older generational K-pop groups but didn't.

June was the month when many teenagers were out of school and on social media, they were wide awake at nearly 12:00 pm for sure, it's afternoon, lots of social activity. Gemini Sun was very social that month.

The Moon was also in Cancer in a critical degree (29th degree) that day, so A LOT of intense emotions that day for all of Korea, the world actually, a need to feel like they BELONG. This is Cancer's energy. To nurture. To protect. A family-like unification. And this is what I ask of BTS fans here, how were you FEELING at least 1 day before BTS's debut. A bit emotional? A desire to belong? How did "No More Dream" speak to you?

At 11:59 pm, Jupiter and the Sun was in their 10th house of again, the PUBLIC eye. So, there was an EXPANSION to their image (Jupiter does this, it expands) Jupiter blesses, brings LUCK. So actually...they did NOT need to work hard because Jupiter blessed them with an admired image already. Look closely on the SOCIAL MEDIA activity after they debuted. They were lucky. ARMY can't and will not accept that social media is the reason why BTS is successful.

Sun in the 10th is a classic aspect that gave the group brilliance, sort of a king like status. But it also made them targets to gossip because it's in the sign of Gemini. The ruler of the ascendant (Virgo), is also in the 10th house (Mercury) which makes them extra communicative towards the public.

Ascendant is appearances. Virgos in general are perfectionists, very hard-working and practical. BTS also appeared PURE to many. Like virgins or innocents. That's how they APPEARED to us, but it wasn't the reason why they are popular. It's Gemini mid-heaven.
 
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Again, this fan has it wrong. This is why it's important to know the right time of debut. When BTS debuted at 11:59 am there was a Gemini mid-heaven in Seoul Korea, it pointed to the sky, it's the public-eye, and how we are viewed by others, this is the Mid-heaven. When they debuted, Jupiter was in Gemini. The transit began in June 2012 until late June 2013. it was a period of time when social media was building stronger especially YouTube. People around the world was antsy to gather information and share it.

Gemini mid-heaven rules computers and the media.

So the timing was right for the company to upload BTS's "No" on social media platforms when everyone was all around these platforms. They could have done the traditional route and debuted on stage FIRST like the older generational K-pop groups but didn't.

June was the month when many teenagers were out of school and on social media, they were wide awake at nearly 12:00 pm for sure, it's afternoon, lots of social activity. Gemini Sun was very social that month.

The Moon was also in Cancer in a critical degree (29th degree) that day, so A LOT of intense emotions that day for all of Korea, the world actually, a need to feel like they BELONG. This is Cancer's energy. To nurture. To protect. A family-like unification. And this is what I ask of BTS fans here, how were you FEELING at least 1 day before BTS's debut. A bit emotional? A desire to belong? How did "No" speak to you?

At 11:59 pm, Jupiter and the Sun was in their 10th house of again, the PUBLIC eye. So, there was an EXPANSION to their image (Jupiter does this, it expands) Jupiter blesses, brings LUCK. So actually...they did NOT need to work hard because Jupiter blessed them with an admired image already. Look closely on the SOCIAL MEDIA activity after they debuted. They were lucky. ARMY can't and will not accept that social media is the reason why BTS is successful.

Sun in the 10th is a classic aspect that gave the group brilliance, sort of a king like status. But it also made them targets to gossip because it's in the sign of Gemini. The ruler of the ascendant (Virgo), is also in the 10th house (Mercury) which makes them extra communicative towards the public.

Ascendant is appearances. Virgos in general are perfectionists, very hard-working and practical. BTS also appeared PURE to many. Like virgins or innocents. That's how they APPEARED to us, but it wasn't the reason why they are popular. It's Gemini mid-heaven.


Sooooo...their popularity is all a sham. They just got lucky.


Lol. I'm kidding a little. I have to admit, [true] astrology is too detailed and difficult to understand for my simple brain and I don't care to follow it so I stay away from it. These are some things to think about, though. But who behind the scenes is thinking of such intricate details and putting this much effort into such planning/timing? I know it happens but when you think about it, it's insane.


I wasn't into them when they debuted. N.O. isn't one of the songs I like by them either. It would be interesting to find out how others felt towards it.
 
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