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You know why men are higher than woman, its not because woman are not respected its because, God created men first, then he created eve. Eve was created from Adams rib, so man is in charge of woman. Eve was also the first one to sin, so ya. Men are hard working and are the head of the house. Where does it say in the Bible when a woman had control over her husband. The wife has to submit to her husband and love her husband, for he is the head of the house. Men are men there is not much of a problem with toxic masculinity, people in the Bible where strong and manly, and woman loved them. All men have feelings no matter how muscular or serious they are, they need love. So stop listening to this trash as world and read the Holy Bible
For what the hell God created women who are "worse" than men. People are some toys where one is better than the other? I'm men and I never would think like that, its just pure sexcism. I surely would not become a Christian after reading your posts, so just stop. Maybe God is evil, haha who know :D. After checking all pages of this thread i became atheist so xD I've been reading this forum since the beginning, and I'm still army haha, i think it started in "dna" era or something around, so it's great. Sometimes i just think about bad and good sides of these boys, there is no pure good or bad people, everything have coexistence like yin yang, of course that doesn’t mean actions don't have consequences, you must receive the right punishment for your actions and be responsible, for ex. Seungri, he did something bad, (no one is itself bad, rather your part/action is) and I will not support someone who did wrong and hurt others, he must receive a proper punishment but I'm not gonna say he is not human and can't change, don't fight fire with fire.
Also this thread is not about religion and sexuality, you guys going offtopic - _ -
Finally I'm posting! But this is my second (third? Idk) and last post there, so im leaving, too much toxicity for me, I will miss all of this nice and not so nice theories, i love conspiracy etc., but when i read this forum i always have headache xD
Thank
Also sorry for my english ~ xD
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Sometimes I don't understand why artists/musicians/groups that participates WITHIN the emotional/psychological/mental/physical abusive SYSTEM of the music industry/corporation believe they can "self-reflect" they're way out to "freedom"--whatever they define it, perhaps in a form of dissociation, who knows. In matter of fact, reading the "Persona" lyrics, it looks like he was ruminating.

"...We are a proud species that is able to reflect upon ourselves. Self-reflection is the process through which we focus on our feelings, thoughts, and experiences in order to gain insight, to learn from our mistakes and develop a better self. If however self-reflection is triggered at the point of distress, there is a high likelihood of engagement with an unproductive self-focus whereas stimuli (internal, bodily symptoms and external, events) are appraised as strongly related to own person. Rumination appears to have a unique relationship with depression, but self-focus is also a major component in anxiety related problems..."

https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor-articles/when-self-reflection-is-counter-productive

Namjoon (the human, apart from his "persona" RM), no matter how psychologically analytical he THINK he is, he is still choosing to disregard what surrounds him externally (i.e. BigHit, CJ Entertainment) that is stimulating his depression and suicidal ideations. If he really wants to know who he is, then he should leave the entertainment business but money matters of course.

And what I quotes, I looked closely, "We are a PROUD species..." I'm not religious, in matter in fact with what is really all going on in this world, I wouldn't be surprise eventually giving my life to Jesus (I'm, agnostic) because of all the distrust humans project, all the lies, it's disgusting, but back to my point, humans are TOO PROUD to give themselves away to God for real answers, like Namjoon, who deemed himself as an atheist, and like Jung, they hate God and thinks they can SELF-reflect, or engage with these split personalities to understand who they are (I use to think I can do it too, when I was younger, but it's like going on circles), sometimes it's best to just rid of them, cause these split personalities are not of God, but fragments of abuse created by others, even self, the ego. Stop entertaining them. They are empty, useless. But I guess when you are an artists making money from abuse, it doesn't matter.

And...what is the freaking point for this whole album again? ARMY are spending HOURS decoding a person they don't really know.
 





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I wanna talk about something. Im not sure if its important tho.
There is an account on twitter that most of you know about. Its a bts theorist account
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A lot of members thought that this account might be used by an insider/insiders based on the strange informations they post.
The first owner was a girl who's name was Hana (i dont know if you remember an old post i made about her, back then she was still alive), the account stopped being used and after a while she made a personal account on twitter and tagged herself to let people know about it and thats when i followed her. Something about her username caught my attention, it was "Hana Jung" same last name with J-hope. After a while she changed it, there was no "Jung" in her whole account. I sent her a message asking her if she was family relatives with Hoseok and she replied with "I can't share that at the moment. I might in the future." which never happened because guess what... at the beggining of January 2019 she passed away and the other owner of the theorist account confirmed it.
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Hana said that she was struggling with a disease.
I dont know if this is true, we're on the internet, we cant be sure of anything.
But if she was honest , then what if she really was relatives with Jhope?What if her death was a sacrifice for the group? She also mentioned that the theorist account was given to her by someone else like she was forced to do it and never said who this person was.

Ps1. Im confused about this topic, as i've already said we are on the internet and there are a lot of fake people, fake news etc.

Ps2. I sent her my condolences, just in case.

You can see the conv here:
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I wanna talk about something. Im not sure if its important tho.
There is an account on twitter that most of you know about. Its a bts theorist account
View attachment 20383
A lot of members thought that this account might be used by an insider/insiders based on the strange informations they post.
The first owner was a girl who's name was Hana (i dont know if you remember an old post i made about her, back then she was still alive), the account stopped being used and after a while she made a personal account on twitter and tagged herself to let people know about it and thats when i followed her. Something about her username caught my attention, it was "Hana Jung" same last name with J-hope. After a while she changed it, there was no "Jung" in her whole account. I sent her a message asking her if she was family relatives with Hoseok and she replied with "I can't share that at the moment. I might in the future." which never happened because guess what... at the beggining of January 2019 she passed away and the other owner of the theorist account confirmed it.
View attachment 20385
Hana said that she was struggling with a disease.
I dont know if this is true, we're on the internet, we cant be sure of anything.
But if she was honest , then what if she really was relatives with Jhope?What if her death was a sacrifice for the group? She also mentioned that the theorist account was given to her by someone else like she was forced to do it and never said who this person was.

Ps1. Im confused about this topic, as i've already said we are on the internet and there are a lot of fake people, fake news etc.

Ps2. I sent her my condolences, just in case.

You can see the conv here:
View attachment 20384
well, hoseok and his family isnt the only one with the surname jung, and try to look in her profile and see if she looks like hoseok or his sister or not, from what i know, hope only has 1 older sis, but she can be his relative, so im not sure, but her death is suspicious but of course, we dont know if its true, if it is, may she rest in peace.
 





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Sometimes I don't understand why artists/musicians/groups that participates WITHIN the emotional/psychological/mental/physical abusive SYSTEM of the music industry/corporation believe they can "self-reflect" they're way out to "freedom"--whatever they define it, perhaps in a form of dissociation, who knows. In matter of fact, reading the "Persona" lyrics, it looks like he was ruminating.

"...We are a proud species that is able to reflect upon ourselves. Self-reflection is the process through which we focus on our feelings, thoughts, and experiences in order to gain insight, to learn from our mistakes and develop a better self. If however self-reflection is triggered at the point of distress, there is a high likelihood of engagement with an unproductive self-focus whereas stimuli (internal, bodily symptoms and external, events) are appraised as strongly related to own person. Rumination appears to have a unique relationship with depression, but self-focus is also a major component in anxiety related problems..."

https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor-articles/when-self-reflection-is-counter-productive

Namjoon (the human, apart from his "persona" RM), no matter how psychologically analytical he THINK he is, he is still choosing to disregard what surrounds him externally (i.e. BigHit, CJ Entertainment) that is stimulating his depression and suicidal ideations. If he really wants to know who he is, then he should leave the entertainment business but money matters of course.

And what I quotes, I looked closely, "We are a PROUD species..." I'm not religious, in matter in fact with what is really all going on in this world, I wouldn't be surprise eventually giving my life to Jesus (I'm, agnostic) because of all the distrust humans project, all the lies, it's disgusting, but back to my point, humans are TOO PROUD to give themselves away to God for real answers, like Namjoon, who deemed himself as an atheist, and like Jung, they hate God and thinks they can SELF-reflect, or engage with these split personalities to understand who they are (I use to think I can do it too, when I was younger, but it's like going on circles), sometimes it's best to just rid of them, cause these split personalities are not of God, but fragments of abuse created by others, even self, the ego. Stop entertaining them. They are empty, useless. But I guess when you are an artists making money from abuse, it doesn't matter.

And...what is the freaking point for this whole album again? ARMY are spending HOURS decoding a person they don't really know.
Very well said
 





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I wanna talk about something. Im not sure if its important tho.
There is an account on twitter that most of you know about. Its a bts theorist account
View attachment 20383
A lot of members thought that this account might be used by an insider/insiders based on the strange informations they post.
The first owner was a girl who's name was Hana (i dont know if you remember an old post i made about her, back then she was still alive), the account stopped being used and after a while she made a personal account on twitter and tagged herself to let people know about it and thats when i followed her. Something about her username caught my attention, it was "Hana Jung" same last name with J-hope. After a while she changed it, there was no "Jung" in her whole account. I sent her a message asking her if she was family relatives with Hoseok and she replied with "I can't share that at the moment. I might in the future." which never happened because guess what... at the beggining of January 2019 she passed away and the other owner of the theorist account confirmed it.
View attachment 20385
Hana said that she was struggling with a disease.
I dont know if this is true, we're on the internet, we cant be sure of anything.
But if she was honest , then what if she really was relatives with Jhope?What if her death was a sacrifice for the group? She also mentioned that the theorist account was given to her by someone else like she was forced to do it and never said who this person was.

Ps1. Im confused about this topic, as i've already said we are on the internet and there are a lot of fake people, fake news etc.

Ps2. I sent her my condolences, just in case.

You can see the conv here:
View attachment 20384
I asked this account if bts will disband. They replyed me with a block after some months. They might be insiders; useless people payed to entertain bts fans and make sure they don't get bored
 





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well, hoseok and his family isnt the only one with the surname jung, and try to look in her profile and see if she looks like hoseok or his sister or not, from what i know, hope only has 1 older sis, but she can be his relative, so im not sure, but her death is suspicious but of course, we dont know if its true, if it is, may she rest in peace.
I agree... They might be liars they might not... I just hope that her death news are not true.
As for her facial features, her cheeks are kinda similar to Hoseok's. I guess we'll never know if they're relatives.
 





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I asked this account if bts will disband. They replyed me with a block after some months. They might be insiders; useless people payed to entertain bts fans and make sure they don't get bored
I asked them if bts is in real danger in real life and not just in theories and replied with a "no".
The industry has a lot of ways to keep fans distracted and this account might be lying all this time too. They just dont seem trustworthy at all
 





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These are, to me, the most significant screenshots that I think we need to take special note of (there are so many of him doing hand signs and one-eye, but these ones I think are especially significant).
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Does he think he "pretends" to be evil? So he acknowledges the fact that the things he does are seen as evil? Is he really "pretending?" Why is he "pretending?" Screen Shot 2019-03-27 at 2.13.23 PM.jpg
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https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/bts-map-soul-persona-trailer-references/
Quote from the above article:
"Carl Jung labeled the parts of the unconscious mind as the anima/animus, shadow, self, and ego, which are layered behind the conscious mind’s persona. The shadow is a person’s inner 'dark side'."
The following picture is a screenshot I made but didn't think was significant until I read this article. Notice how his left hand is just flailing about, it looks like it's open and does not look like it's making a horns sign. Now, look at his shadow. Here you see his left hand making a horns sign.
Seeing as how this whole comeback revolves around Carl Jung, and they were particular enough with details to include a paint can with RM's birth year on it, it's extremely likely that this hand symbol was done purposely either by RM himself or by the editors. There is no possible way this was accidental. This shadow, this horns symbol, shows RM's "dark side" as being Satanic.
End of story.
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BTS interview with some US magazine:
pay attention to this pic: RM in the middle doing the shhhh sign and one eye



Next picture: Jhope does the horn sign with his hand



And in case that wasnt enough...... here BTS decide to cover each other's eyes because "aesthetic"



Thats about it....I think this is my last contribution to the thread. If I keep talking about BTS I keep repeating myself
Goodbye Friends:

 





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BTS interview with some US magazine:
pay attention to this pic: RM in the middle doing the shhhh sign and one eye



Next picture: Jhope does the horn sign with his hand



And in case that wasnt enough...... here BTS decide to cover each other's eyes because "aesthetic"



Thats about it....I think this is my last contribution to the thread. If I keep talking about BTS I keep repeating myself
Goodbye Friends:

The one eyed gesture is too obvious and constantly repeated. The symbolism is very clear. They are showing their allegiance to their masters. LOL
 





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That nigga falling out there is pretty funny.
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And btw thank you @with.hardship.comes.ease for posting those ss bc I really was curious ab the MV even tho I just didn't want to click it. He does so so
So many horns signs like he is drunk with this cult.
Anyway those niggas now are just some Ariana Grande for me. Even their fandom isn't to pity anymore. People there deserve such kind of exposing for accepting such twisted messages and symbolism in their MVs.