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It’s so weird how army doesn’t see anything fishy with the fact that everyone else’s image is being torn down and bts is just oh so perfect like they do realize that these are men and their human so they aren’t perfect and it just isn’t realistic for them to not be flawed and do things that maybe they wouldn’t exactly be proud of. Whenever fans say oh they don’t do anything they’re the perfect guys I’m like man you guys sound so dumb the stories come off and sound so fake like I know the members don’t just ride bikes down to Han river...I mean look at the people they hang around and all the suspicious ways they behave I bet at least majority of them partake in things that could possibly ruin their career.
i agree everyone is human and not perfect. people need to be realistic and not idolize them. I'm sure the day will come when the truth will come out especially if they truly are involved in controversial stuff that's just being covered up for now..just look at Seungri and T.O.P, who would of imagined these idols who were so big and in their prime back in the day are now coming out with scandals left and right. It's all a matter of time. we just have to wait and see how this unfolds in the future.
 





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dear there is no coincidence, it doesn't exist neither in the Illuminati controlled world nor in the normal world, V is clearly the chosen member to make sacrifices for BTS, he has sacrificed his friend, and also grand mother(sorry if I confused him with other member but I think its him), because he have his grand mother in some MV and then news came out that she is dead..he is clearly the one responsible for making sacrifices, so he named his dog coal briquette...I don't believe any normal person would give that name to a dog, its very odd, and he chooses this weird name just before 4 hours of Jongyhyun death, its not way coincidence...any way, I have no idea if he wanted to leave BTS or not, but may be thats why he wanted to leave, because they want from him a lots of sacrifices he must made, so may be he fed up with it
I wonder why tae is the only one that has to do these sacrifices I mean it seems he’s the only one that’s really lost anyone close to him apart from jin who lost his grandmother, but was he even that close to her? I’m sure that him having to sacrifice so much for the group has to make him feel so guilty and feel some sort of animosity towards the members hence him maybe wanting to distance himself from the group. I would think that the sacrifices would be spread amongst the group but I guess that isn’t how it works.
 





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I wonder why tae is the only one that has to do these sacrifices I mean it seems he’s the only one that’s really lost anyone close to him apart from jin who lost his grandmother, but was he even that close to her? I’m sure that him having to sacrifice so much for the group has to make him feel so guilty and feel some sort of animosity towards the members hence him maybe wanting to distance himself from the group. I would think that the sacrifices would be spread amongst the group but I guess that isn’t how it works.
I don't think grandparents dying is a sacrifice, come on people die when they get old. That's called the circle of life. If it was their mother father or sibling dying then maybe It could be.
 





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I don't think grandparents dying is a sacrifice, come on people die when they get old. That's called the circle of life. If it was their mother father or sibling dying then maybe It could be.
his grandma is a sacrifice, she is sacrificed before the wings era and wings is the start of their career, they got an award left and right and theyre famous after wings album, and there are hints of his grandma in mvs, and dont forget his song stigma, he sounds like he is talking to someone and apologizing for his sins, it could be him talking to his dead grandma and apologizing because she is dead because of him, i dont know about his grandpa though, could be dead by age or a sacrifice.

p.s. dont be blind and think all of this regarding you bias taehyung is just a "coincidence", youre still blinded.
 





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I wonder why tae is the only one that has to do these sacrifices I mean it seems he’s the only one that’s really lost anyone close to him apart from jin who lost his grandmother, but was he even that close to her? I’m sure that him having to sacrifice so much for the group has to make him feel so guilty and feel some sort of animosity towards the members hence him maybe wanting to distance himself from the group. I would think that the sacrifices would be spread amongst the group but I guess that isn’t how it works.
maybe because bighit have a beef with him, bighit treated him like shit and gave him a bad stage persona and bighit wanted him to not be as famous, not to mention he was the last member to be revealed and he is the "secret member", he told his sad story to us about how he was sad because he was the last member to be revealed, he thought bighit doesnt want to debut him, so maybe he is only in the group for sacrificing purposes, sacrificing his loved ones for the group, or even worse, sacrificing himself, but i think as time passes by, bighit realized how important he is to the group and to the armys because he is very popular, he can act and sing too, he is a great puppet and has a connection to the illuminati and spirits since he is an indigo and he is loyal to his god thus the many handsigns he do and his kaballah red string he wears 24/7 and his eerie energy rings, he can make lots of money for bighit, and thus why bighit decided to also make jin to be a sacrifice, he sacrificed his grandpa (rumoured/theory) and even worse, sacrificing himself, thus why he has many sacrifice hints like him kissing the statue in bst, and that jail count thingy, i dont know what the name is, but taehyung also has sacrifice hints but not as much as jin.

overall, i think tae is the secret member because he is used to sacrifice, a ritual, or even darker than that, his parents could be an elite or have connections to the illuminati, thus why he is a moonchild and i remember that hotel in jeju that he visited with his parents, its eerie as fu*k, i think he also has beef with his family im 100% sure of that so he can be the one who is in debt with bighit, thus why he sacrifice a lot.
 





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Seems like more and more names are being exposed. Junhyung from BEAST (very popular group) is the next one, he admitted to veiwing the r*pe/unconsensual footage in the chatroom making inappropriate remarks. His own chatroom conversartion was exposed with JJY where he called some girl group members loose and used derogatory terms for women (referred to them as va**na).
I have to admit I am shocked. I knew the industry was dirty and that these idols are far from innocent, however, this is a different level of low. They actively drugged and raped fans and rookie idols or trainees filmed them and spread it among themselves. Guess that makes them serial rapists. Not that getting consensual s*x would be hard for them, but no they got pleasure out of this. People are hating on the industry, after so many people being exposed one by one. Comments like I am not excited for comebacks are being spread, which is understabdable. Even BBC and other international new outlets are coveribg this.
 





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Seems like more and more names are being exposed. Junhyung from BEAST (very popular group) is the next one, he admitted to veiwing the r*pe/unconsensual footage in the chatroom making inappropriate remarks. His own chatroom conversartion was exposed with JJY where he called some girl group members loose and used derogatory terms for women (referred to them as va**na).
I have to admit I am shocked. I knew the industry was dirty and that these idols are far from innocent, however, this is a different level of low. They actively drugged and raped fans and rookie idols or trainees filmed them and spread it among themselves. Guess that makes them serial rapists. Not that getting consensual s*x would be hard for them, but no they got pleasure out of this. People are hating on the industry, after so many people being exposed one by one. Comments like I am not excited for comebacks are being spread, which is understabdable. Even BBC and other international new outlets are coveribg this.
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this is him wearing beta kitten and all, speaking of mk ultra, now im not really sure if the people that are exposed is in an mk ultra control while doing the dirty things or not.
 





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VvV is not my bias :) The members are old enough to be my little brothers. At the end of the day every celebrity is a human being, people tend to forget that. They are somebody's brother or child. I know that his grandmother raised him so to sacrifice her? Even that idea is sickening. I hope all thoses theories are fake.
its hard to believe someone could sacrifice a loved one for fame or fortune, besides its normal to die because we are all human

But there is one Illuminati channel I watch on youtube and they always say "when I see a celebrity winning a lot of awards in a year I always think who they sacrificed this time? and when I investigate I always find that same year someone closed to them died"
If you investigate famous celebrities you always find a close friend, father or mother died in strange circumstances and after that death their fame rises..... this happens not with all celebrities but with A LOT of them yes it happens

If you research about it you will be surprised
 





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"journey to find yourself with bts"? why would armys NEED bts to help them find themselves? its like saying bts is the only one who could let them see their trueselves, this is bullsh*t, and again, bts is trying to be "relatable" with their psychology concept like LovInG yOurSeLf,DePrEsSiOn, SuiCiDe, because they think teens would LOVE that, this is such a joke.
This isn't actually about BT3, though. It's not this simplistic.

I've been away from this thread for a long time so I'm not sure what most people believe atm, but I'll put it here. (Not directed at you, just generally)

Bighit is a company with an agenda that is connected to things we can't see and currently perceive. It has connections to the occult and its directors serve another master. This latest song is to educate us or make us aware of something that is either connected to something in the future or connected to something currently happening to us behind the scenes.

This isn't done with our good in mind. It's simply adhering to a law. The so called elite (I prefer to call them parasites)must inform the public of their plans before they actually go ahead with them. It's a law they can't break. This is done mostly through the entertainment industry, in movies and music with the use of symbolism and metaphors. The plans will never be told directly, so you have to read between the lines. A lot of this stuff is also hidden in children's cartoons.

I find this latest topic BT3 will be singing about very interesting. With all of the things going on lately...'persona' as the topic of choice will probably be eye opening in some ways. I'll be paying close attention to the lyrics.
 





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Seems like more and more names are being exposed. Junhyung from BEAST (very popular group) is the next one, he admitted to veiwing the r*pe/unconsensual footage in the chatroom making inappropriate remarks. His own chatroom conversartion was exposed with JJY where he called some girl group members loose and used derogatory terms for women (referred to them as va**na).
I have to admit I am shocked. I knew the industry was dirty and that these idols are far from innocent, however, this is a different level of low. They actively drugged and raped fans and rookie idols or trainees filmed them and spread it among themselves. Guess that makes them serial rapists. Not that getting consensual s*x would be hard for them, but no they got pleasure out of this. People are hating on the industry, after so many people being exposed one by one. Comments like I am not excited for comebacks are being spread, which is understabdable. Even BBC and other international new outlets are coveribg this.
Sometimes - actually, very often from what I've seen and heard - the more conservative the image, the more depravity behind closed doors. I'm learning to become more wary of people who are all about cultivating and upholding a clean image - they're almost always not wired right or hiding something dark.
 





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its hard to believe someone could sacrifice a loved one for fame or fortune, besides its normal to die because we are all human

But there is one Illuminati channel I watch on youtube and they always say "when I see a celebrity winning a lot of awards in a year I always think who they sacrificed this time? and when I investigate I always find that same year someone closed to them died"
If you investigate famous celebrities you always find a close friend, father or mother died in strange circumstances and after that death their fame rises..... this happens not with all celebrities but with A LOT of them yes it happens

If you research about it you will be surprised
When you watch their videos on the internet, programs where they act they are 15 but actually are grown man, MV etc after a while you suddenly start liking them. Just like that. It's almost like being under a spell. Because they aren't special singers with awesome vocals or anything. They dance coordinately and good since they practice day and night but that's all. Even older people like them. They haven't saved the world or done anything special to have Ride-Or-Die fans like that. They aren't even handsome without makeup, laser treatment, lip fillers done to their face to look more white flawless and appealing, and to have a more caucasian looking hair style they get perms done to have volume and they dye their hair blonde, brown or all the colors in the rainbow. Blinded people are not realizing that they are constantly touching each other in inappropriate ways in thoses videos, doing inappropriate gesture etc or is that to slowly acclimate kids/teenager views to certain ideas?

I definitely fell there is some kind of magic done there. You almost can feel a different "aura" around them. And it takes you in. And that's not because they are famous. Famous or not people are people period. The sacrifice theory might be very true. But the effects of this "spell" has on people is way stronger that what is done in other countries. They were comparing them to the "beetlejuice".
 





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sacrifice or not, bts wont have the fame they are having now if they dont sacrifice someone, so they had sacrifice someone, believe it or not, truth hurts. and they always sacrifice their grandparents because they want to appear that its not a death for a sacrifice but by age, so dont say that "its just a coincidence" NOTHING is a coincidence in this time, everything is connected, mvs, songs, lyrics, tea's grandmother has been talked in this thread a lot and people agreed that she is a sacrifice, there are many hints, and i cant believe i have to repeat that again to make you wake up and see, bts is not pure, it is not hard to believe that they had sacrificed their loved ones for fame and fortune, we dont know them personally and we dont know what bighit told them to do, bts HAVE to make a sacrifice to get into the position they are in, ever since wings era, their popularity grows so much and theyre famous internationally, all because of tea's grandmother, he wrote the song stigma for her, told him how he was sorry for his sins, and i believe he became different and not in his goofy 4D image after wings era, thus fans started noticing it and say thay maybe its because of his grandmother, he changed a lot, maybe its because he doesnt want his loved ones to die again, but now they had sacrificed his friend and probably his grandfather, and from others' theory, jonghyun. i cant imagine how much he felt.

so dont say that its just a coincidence or nature, bts cant be famous without a sacrifice, period.
 





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you are right, Jonghyun death was sacrifice to BTS, and now, EXO could be the next, because they are very popular in Korea, so the Illuminati want to make BTS further more popular than them, and they wanted to destroy every popular boy group, so make everyone eye into BTS, its pathetic how they can control people easily like this
I don't think Jonghyun's death had something to do with BTS...
this is a past post from the Kpop thread...

"Jonghyun's death was not for BTS. But many people actually knew what was coming so...Jonghyun was in conflict from very long time with some people.
[...]I think Jonghyun himself didn't thought it will happen but it did. Jonghyun was in conflict with powerful people and with Minho. Many people will not believe me but they had a physical fight in the beginning of 2013.
There was situation where Shinee was on music award show and there was a yelling happening between Jonghyun and Minho. The argued really loud and not so far away from them there was fans with cameras recording everything. EXO members were sitting there too and they tried to wave and send smiles to these girls with cameras so they don't pay attention to Jonghyun and Minho fighting.They called each other very bad names and Manager told them to change seats and Jonghyun sat closer to EXO. I know that few days after this they had physical fight. Jonghyun had very serious anger outbursts.He would make scenes where there was cameras or many people around. He was not saint himself and did some things that I don't want to share because of his memory.He didn't want to be mind controled.

I'm very,very sure that 3 people was involved in his death. 1 of them I used to see almost on regular basis in work. I can't say who this person is because my identity might me exposed. The 2 person was Jonghyun's friend who he used to hang out very often. I can't say who is 3 person because that would be too dangerious. But THEY wanted Jonghyun out for good. Also let me tell you something. This "sacrifice" it was not for Jonghyun in the beginning. It was supposed to be for one of ex members of DBSK. This member found connection to Yakuza in Japan and he was protected for some time until he left SM and DBSK. The "sacrifice" was only postponed in time to find other person.DBSK reason for breaking up was totally different that many people could think. It was not about money, not about being traidor, not about anything that you heard on interview or readed. ALL of them wanted to leave. But JY stayed to protect one of the member that left. He loves him."

About Exo

"Before relationship between EXO members was very bad.
There was a time that some of the current members would not speak with each other at all. They would speak when fans or cameras were around or they were in studio. But in their privite time they avoided each other. There was a lot of talk going between company and EXO. Now their relations are much better but they treat each other just like acquaintances in work.

EXO are very jealous of BTS success.
EXO wanted very much to be worldwide successful, to hang out with american celebrities, to attend american award ceremonies etc.. They wanted to dominate China and Korea first and later America. One of the dance choreographers spoke about BTS dance in the practise room and one of the EXO members said "whatever,we are more handsome" and discussion started why people would like to watch ugly idols etc..The choreographer mentioned something like: "maybe you should just get naked and have sex on the concert" "C" from EXO said: "just like in Incheon?" (it's a korean city btw) and all of them laughed. I don't know what he meant by that.

Super Junior were incredible jealous when EXO debuted and gained many fans. There was many comments that EXO is Super Junior replacement, that they are too old etc.. Super Junior wanted desperately new album but it was postponed because of EXO. A lot of drama went down because of this..."
 





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Even bigbang knew that something would happen.

http://instagr.am/p/Bu_PQvFANeO/
Scandals like that are revealed in a convenient time. I was watching Korea Scouter TV just a few minutes ago and he said that there's a huge uprising in the feminism movement in South Korea at the moment. By this I am absolutely not saying that this scandal didn't happen, it did, we know how the entertainment industry works. But these scandals are being brought up when it's time to reveal them. It will ignite hate against men and will further divide men and women. I mean look at America, that's how South Korea will look like soon as well.
 





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The rapture comes FIRST. We are NOT destined for wrath. Seriously, learn your bible and learn to rightly divide it.
The bible describes the rapture and the second coming as different events.

Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:51-52

Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. Revelation 3:10

For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 5:9

The Rapture is described as occurring at any time without warning.
The second coming is preceded by many events such as the rise of the antichrist, a treaty with Israel and the rebuilding of the jewish temple. Christians are called to look for the lords return rather than signs such as the antichrists arrival. Even the judgement seat of christ disproves your satanic doctrine, the so called ''post-trib rapture''.
I think it's quite hyprocritical to call for other christians to learn read the Bible when you yourself do not know what you're talking about.
It says "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet [...]" So what does it imply? At the last trumpet we will be changed, meaning the rapture comes last.

Revelation 3:10 doesn't talk about being taken away from earth during the Great Tribulation, it talks about being protected by God from sin and tribulation during that time. Look: "I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth."