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It will be really sad if the guys are sick.......but maybe,just maybe,this collapse infront of fans(though I don't think that faint is fake) was to have the sympathy and support of fans and justifying to take break from making the content and giving way to the junior group while they get enlisted.........this way their popularity remains unaffected and fans don't complain........just saying.
I dont think so in this case....the others are ignoring him and this is not good for their family image, if this was planned I think the others would act different with him but they are all pretending like nothing is happening

And he is collapsing on stage, so this is not good for Bighit image too and they will be accused of overworking them
The timing is good for the new group if they have to give BTS a hiatus but ....Jungkook looking like this is not a good image for them
 





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Speaking of resemblance to other clips here is the trailer of ASTRO:
We will believe in d'Ateez and BTS ... as well as a reminiscent of Wings RM when he represents V, when he tries to phone a phone booth, which ultimately displays WAR written in red (what he can make think of the red moon).
Wow.......bathtub(satanic baptism),flowers(rothschild illuminati party),masonic pillars and hall,garden resembling the garden of adam and eve......telephone symbolic of programming(trigger words are spoken through phone)......glass boxes(literally products on display)and flowers in cases(symbolic of caged innocence)..........at this point,it is hard to say if the groups got inspired by bigheat and bt3 to be more blatant without any reprisal or they are just deep now.
 





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I dont think so in this case....the others are ignoring him and this is not good for their family image, if this was planned I think the others would act different with him but they are all pretending like nothing is happening

And he is collapsing on stage, so this is not good for Bighit image too and they will be accused of overworking them
The timing is good for the new group if they have to give BTS a hiatus but ....Jungkook looking like this is not a good image for them
True that.........him literally falling even while getting up is a bad sight.....that family image has been taking a beating for a long time especially that time when tea was crying and others were trying to not laugh and then laughing in his face........and now this.......but,really,the timing is perfect......I think @Dove28 did say that this year won't be that good for bt3 or something like that......wonder what will happen.
Also......did you notice his shirt with the new dualistic colours of black and yellow?
 





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True that.........him literally falling even while getting up is a bad sight.....that family image has been taking a beating for a long time especially that time when tea was crying and others were trying to not laugh and then laughing in his face........and now this.......but,really,the timing is perfect......I think @Dove28 did say that this year won't be that good for bt3 or something like that......wonder what will happen.
dont know what will happen but fans cant stay blind for so long.
If they love BTS but they see them fainting on stage, crying on stage, looking exhausted, being harrassed by sasaengs....until when will they turn a blind eye to the ugly life BTS are living?? ....talk about "fake love"
 





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Bighit is so smart


this guy is half brazilian, and BTS has a lot of brazilian fans....there is garanteed those brazilian fans are going to support this guy.
And he plays instruments and composes too....bighit are marketing genius putting a half south american man in the group....

believe me when I say....Brazilian fans are HARDCORE
 





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Bighit is so smart


this guy is half brazilian, and BTS has a lot of brazilian fans....there is garanteed those brazilian fans are going to support this guy.
And he plays instruments and composes too....bighit are marketing genius putting a half south american man in the group....

believe me when I say....Brazilian fans are HARDCORE
that character description makes him sound like a musical prodigy and an intelligent guy........something along the lines of character description of one eyed(writer-producer and can speak different languages) and sweet boi(who also plays piano and writes and produces music).......
About his father.......he is a musician and is well known in china........he has an album 'tree of life',hmmmmm.........tree of life holds a lot of significance in occult
so,this new member of +*+ comes from the family......meaning, born in occult and is probably a moonchild
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-07/06/content_8381725.htm
https://achsstinger.com/6931/features/nabil-huening-the-man-of-many-languages/
 





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Not sure what the deal of K-pop companies having multi/bi-racial members as "secret weapons" to draw the crowd.

Waiting for these members official birthdays so I have a real understanding of their astrological make-up. Because I am not buying these manufactured personalities.

Well, in 2019-2020 (activation 3 months before their debut "birthday") there is a T-square so it's a year of fated events. The 6th, 12th and 8th houses are afflicted. And that worries me a lot.

6th=co-workers, employees, daily routines, health, work, diet, service; Cancer, emotional roots in work and health, stomach issues, emotional service; Mars conjunct Mercury in Cancer.

"...Something needs to be hit, belted out, burned, buried, blessed, and finally alchemized. Because if we don’t, if we try our best to ignore the monsters in our deep and write off the demons in our heads, they will grow fiercely. And the haunting begins…"

8th house=sex, death and rebirth, shared resources, taxes, other people finances; Libra Moon; afflicted, the moon in Solar Returns is the emotional RESPONSE towards events and so there will be imbalance and disharmony.

Perhaps subconsciously, things will re-surface; a realization that fairness and justice needs to be ingrained within the company for BTS attain MENTAL PEACE. They are NOT being treated fairly and BTS haven't realized it yet. Well, until this new boy group ignites with silver platter popularity they'll understand the truth. I also see an unfair distribution of money earned from touring. Maybe after the tour the company will hog up all the cash and BTS will be paid unfairly.

12th=mental institution, jails, unconscious, solitude, exclusion, karma, house of un-doing; Saturn conjunct Pluto in Capricorn. Abuse from the company guarantee for that year. Capricorn rules businesses. Capricorns are bosses or CEO's of companies. So you get the hint. Sorry I said such bold statement and of course they were always abused but that year seems to highlight it even more. I just have a feeling someone is going to be hospitalized for "exhaustion" or have a real mental breakdown. Suicide attempts/ideation? Depressive year all around. Really sad.

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Not sure what the deal of K-pop companies having multi/bi-racial members as "secret weapons" to draw the crowd.

Waiting for these members official birthdays so I have a real understanding of their astrological make-up. Because I am not buying these manufactured personalities.

Well, in 2019-2020 (activation 3 months before their debut "birthday") there is a T-square so it's a year of fated events. The 6th, 12th and 8th houses are afflicted. And that worries me a lot.

6th=co-workers, employees, daily routines, health, work, diet, service; Cancer, emotional roots in work and health, stomach issues, emotional service; Mars conjunct Mercury in Cancer.

"...Something needs to be hit, belted out, burned, buried, blessed, and finally alchemized. Because if we don’t, if we try our best to ignore the monsters in our deep and write off the demons in our heads, they will grow fiercely. And the haunting begins…"

8th house=sex, death and rebirth, shared resources, taxes, other people finances; Libra Moon; afflicted, the moon in Solar Returns is the emotional RESPONSE towards events and so there will be imbalance and disharmony.

Perhaps subconsciously, things will re-surface; a realization that fairness and justice needs to be ingrained within the company for BTS attain MENTAL PEACE. They are NOT being treated fairly and BTS haven't realized it yet. Well, until this new boy group ignites with silver platter popularity they'll understand the truth. I also see an unfair distribution of money earned from touring. Maybe after the tour the company will hog up all the cash and BTS will be paid unfairly.

12th=mental institution, jails, unconscious, solitude, exclusion, karma, house of un-doing; Saturn conjunct Pluto in Capricorn. Abuse from the company guarantee for that year. Capricorn rules businesses. Capricorns are bosses or CEO's of companies. So you get the hint. Sorry I said such bold statement and of course they were always abused but that year seems to highlight it even more. I just have a feeling someone is going to be hospitalized for "exhaustion" or have a real mental breakdown. Suicide attempts/ideation? Depressive year all around. Really sad.

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After that speech at mama.. Where they cried.
They have all become a bit open i feel.. They are all getting into chat rooms one way or another to talk to normal people .. Even if it's for a little while .. H0b1 after the 2nd concert day was in the chat room even at 4am.. And he had to catch a flight that day. He said he couldn't sleep

And yesterday taehyung went to kkt and created a room and said he couldn't sleep..even though they were dead tired yesterday..
i can clearly say they're searching for peace in any way.. And if.. IF... they didnt find it this way either.. They will end up doing something ..
 





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Just wanted to add this here.
Jin said THE COMPANY DIDN'T ASK THEM TO SAY THIS....
This thing can have like many meanings.. Like first they are supporting the company so that people don't think that they have been pushed by b1gh1t to say this..

Second.. Either the company doesn't care or didn't talk with them about giving this message.. So they all ended up being nice seniors and all.. After seeing some army tweets against txt..

He could have skipped that part but he didn't.. And j00n rolled his eyes at the support statement.. Which a person does when in confusion or when they support their own statement half heartedly...
 





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that junglebook fainting clip reminded of this

many opined that it could be mkultra glitches,demonic possession,exhaustion or dehydration...........
However, the facts relating to junglebook made me wonder .......the fact that the guys were ready backstage to haul him away....or that there is a doctor by his side all the time these days,it seems........that doctor part reminded of a handler.....oh well,it could very well be just exhaustion..........i'll leave it to your discretion.
 





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that junglebook fainting clip reminded of this

many opined that it could be mkultra glitches,demonic possession,exhaustion or dehydration...........
However, the facts relating to junglebook made me wonder .......the fact that the guys were ready backstage to haul him away....or that there is a doctor by his side all the time these days,it seems........that doctor part reminded of a handler.....oh well,it could very well be just exhaustion..........i'll leave it to your discretion.
The doctor part is scary ..
These doctors can be used for manipulation..
Jhonghyun's psychiatrist was also a reason for him to stop being strong.. That guy was of no help.. He used to say to him to MAN UP and stuff..
 





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Not sure what the deal of K-pop companies having multi/bi-racial members as "secret weapons" to draw the crowd.

Waiting for these members official birthdays so I have a real understanding of their astrological make-up. Because I am not buying these manufactured personalities.

Well, in 2019-2020 (activation 3 months before their debut "birthday") there is a T-square so it's a year of fated events. The 6th, 12th and 8th houses are afflicted. And that worries me a lot.

6th=co-workers, employees, daily routines, health, work, diet, service; Cancer, emotional roots in work and health, stomach issues, emotional service; Mars conjunct Mercury in Cancer.

"...Something needs to be hit, belted out, burned, buried, blessed, and finally alchemized. Because if we don’t, if we try our best to ignore the monsters in our deep and write off the demons in our heads, they will grow fiercely. And the haunting begins…"

8th house=sex, death and rebirth, shared resources, taxes, other people finances; Libra Moon; afflicted, the moon in Solar Returns is the emotional RESPONSE towards events and so there will be imbalance and disharmony.

Perhaps subconsciously, things will re-surface; a realization that fairness and justice needs to be ingrained within the company for BTS attain MENTAL PEACE. They are NOT being treated fairly and BTS haven't realized it yet. Well, until this new boy group ignites with silver platter popularity they'll understand the truth. I also see an unfair distribution of money earned from touring. Maybe after the tour the company will hog up all the cash and BTS will be paid unfairly.

12th=mental institution, jails, unconscious, solitude, exclusion, karma, house of un-doing; Saturn conjunct Pluto in Capricorn. Abuse from the company guarantee for that year. Capricorn rules businesses. Capricorns are bosses or CEO's of companies. So you get the hint. Sorry I said such bold statement and of course they were always abused but that year seems to highlight it even more. I just have a feeling someone is going to be hospitalized for "exhaustion" or have a real mental breakdown. Suicide attempts/ideation? Depressive year all around. Really sad.

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Wow.......looks like 12th house effects are already being seen with exhaustion videos going viral......it will only be a matter of time for atleast one of them getting hospitalised............
About not being fairly........it is a given that they won't be paid fairly........the company's line would more probably be about the expenses they made on each of them for costumes at award shows and tours and for promotional activities(billboard,youtube, buzzfeed and other companies have been promoting the group tirelessly).......those costumes themselves are supposed to cost a lot......and they'll be paying from their own pockets.......even if there are sponsors,the company can always cut that money from the artists,as it will be the main middleman between the sponsor and the artist.......they are worth around 70million dollars right now .....earlier it was sweetboi(9mil) getting more than others(8mil) because of his writing credits...........but now,somehow hoppie(12mil) overtook sweet boi(8mil) in getting paid more.
 





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Wow.......looks like 12th house effects are already being seen with exhaustion videos going viral......it will only be a matter of time for atleast one of them getting hospitalised............
About not being fairly........it is a given that they won't be paid fairly........the company's line would more probably be about the expenses they made on each of them for costumes at award shows and tours and for promotional activities(billboard,youtube, buzzfeed and other companies have been promoting the group tirelessly).......those costumes themselves are supposed to cost a lot......and they'll be paying from their own pockets.......even if there are sponsors,the company can always cut that money from the artists,as it will be the main middleman between the sponsor and the artist.......they are worth around 70million dollars right now .....earlier it was sweetboi(9mil) getting more than others(8mil) because of his writing credits...........but now,somehow hoppie(12mil) overtook sweet boi(8mil) in getting paid more.
How do we know they getting paid this much? Like suga 8mil.. H0bi 12mil..

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That btstarot account said even if they're being paid in millions.. It's still less for them. They should be paid more

Suga has i think stopped much of his writing and composition because company always made changes in his stuff.. So when you stuff is changed you automatically lose interest in it..

And h0b1 is the dance leader. And dance is a necessity for them. So maybe yes and his h0peworld was also a success
 





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Just wanted to add this here.
Jin said THE COMPANY DIDN'T ASK THEM TO SAY THIS....
This thing can have like many meanings.. Like first they are supporting the company so that people don't think that they have been pushed by b1gh1t to say this..

Second.. Either the company doesn't care or didn't talk with them about giving this message.. So they all ended up being nice seniors and all.. After seeing some army tweets against txt..

He could have skipped that part but he didn't.. And j00n rolled his eyes at the support statement.. Which a person does when in confusion or when they support their own statement half heartedly...
It was already guessed that they would promote the new group in some way or other..........
Of late,they are making a new script of these seven guys going against the company's wishes and are speaking from their heart.......like that 'supposed' inside scoop of planning to disband and now going against the company's wishes and supporting the juniors........it's funny how both statements are made by jinnie,it's as if to show that since he's the oldest of them,he's leading the guys in this kind of 'rebellion'........because,these announcements are usually made by the leader of a group.........
 





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After that speech at mama.. Where they cried.
They have all become a bit open i feel.. They are all getting into chat rooms one way or another to talk to normal people .. Even if it's for a little while .. H0b1 after the 2nd concert day was in the chat room even at 4am.. And he had to catch a flight that day. He said he couldn't sleep

And yesterday taehyung went to kkt and created a room and said he couldn't sleep..even though they were dead tired yesterday..
i can clearly say they're searching for peace in any way.. And if.. IF... they didnt find it this way either.. They will end up doing something ..

them staying in chat rooms could very well be to gauge the fans' mood right now especially with the new group debuting and this helps to keep the fans still hooked to them............that not being able to sleep even after that exhaustion videos......speak of insomnia,which can be dealt with drugs,which I'm sure they have access to since they have an attending doctor with them nowadays
It could be because of wearing off of the enhancement drugs they take before performances
It could mean unable to sleep due to increased demonic activity.......these artists who invoke demons are usually haunted by these entities....there are few videos of artists talking about shadows in their bedroom.......
it could be a ploy to gain more sympathy from the fans and to stop them from going to other groups through emotional manipulation(the company is good with this)
About hoppie not being able to sleep,it could very well be because of catching flight and he might be too sleepy and afraid of being late.......so,he might just be keeping himself awake.
However,with all their activities carefuuly moniored,how can anyone be sure that they are in the chatroom by themselves?It could just be an insider or if the members are there themselves,then they have company,literally the 'company' represented by atleast one employee.
 





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How do we know they getting paid this much? Like suga 8mil.. H0bi 12mil..

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That btstarot account said even if they're being paid in millions.. It's still less for them. They should be paid more

Suga has i think stopped much of his writing and composition because company always made changes in his stuff.. So when you stuff is changed you automatically lose interest in it..

And h0b1 is the dance leader. And dance is a necessity for them. So maybe yes and his h0peworld was also a success
It is all over internet,their networth as a group and as an individual........
https://www.quora.com/How-much-is-BTS-net-worth-in-2019
https://thenetworthportal.com/celeb-net-worth/bands/bts-net-worth-career-assets/

That tarotaccount is either a diehard fan or an insider..........not sure about needing to be paid more though,they are really successful,agreed...........but the amount of dirty play and the promotions and to keep up their allegiances with the elite,besides their refined appearances and media play requires a lot of money.
In no way saying that they don't deserve more but,the company has many employees(84 to be exact) and many more will be needed for the new group and they have just one official group until now,so,the guys are feeding a lot of mouths and might not be getting a lot more(though they have to)......if the new group starts making money,the pressure probably reduces over them and then maybe, they'll get more money individually.