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hey im here after a long hiatus, and i will be back in my hiatus after this post, i just wanted to adress a few things about the thread and what is happening lately, because im kinda pissed.

yall need to stop talking about taehyung and how he is making you sad, we get it, he lost his grannies, he cry a lot, he is dead inside boohoo ;-; he is a very pure person yatta yatta yatta, just admit that youre still attached to him and he is still your bias, thats why you defended him and you know what, thats what the devil wants. i need yall to just stop and realized that EVERYTHING they do is SCRIPTED, even the cryings and all the 'friendship' they have, its all fake, and i dont trust no people but i asked a bts predictions account that everything they do is fake and most of the cryings are scripted, and trust me on this, and listen to me, they are NOT what you think they are, and if someone is sacrificed in bts, that doesnt mean that they are pure from evil, and if someone cries in cameras a lot, and talk about how they cant sleep, its not 100% true, open your eyes, dont trust your emotions, trust your brain and intuition. also, there are 7 members people????? and yall only talk about your bias, or at least your bias wrecker???? hello??? earth to taehyung stans? i believe they are all hurt but they dont show it that much, yall only care for what the camera gives you and it is absolutely annoying.

and all i need yall to do is MAKE THEORIES, MAKE REAL THEORIES, not ramble about your oppa taehyungie 'uwu ;-; he is in need of help' EVERYONE IN BTS IS IN NEED OF HELP and i doubt he is the only one who 'cries' a lot, yall are just so pathetic, seeing things because THEY ARE IN CAMERAS, if you are here just to say those things, you should just stick to lurking, this thread is made for THEORIES goddamn it, not bts' emotional support team,this is why people leave this thread and there is clearly no real theories here, just some fangirls that convinced themselves to stop stanning them but deep down theyre still, i cant believe some of yall call yourself 'woke' lmao, youre still clearly in their trap.never trust ANYONE in your life guys, because i have been through a lot of backstabs, and trust me, having trust issues is like a shield, and the key to being vigilant.

adios kitty girls <3
I agree, not long ago I posted pictures of him crying at the concert and I felt bad for him but at the very next day he was smiling and acting all happy again :rolleyes: after that I dont believe nothing from him anymore

And he is always doing the hand signs and he does it way more than the others (him and RM are the biggest offenders) so I don't believe he regrets it. A lot of people here love him but we cant be blinded when he is always doing the one eye and the horn sign. I think people have more consideration for him because he is good looking
 

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hey im here after a long hiatus, and i will be back in my hiatus after this post, i just wanted to adress a few things about the thread and what is happening lately, because im kinda pissed.

yall need to stop talking about taehyung and how he is making you sad, we get it, he lost his grannies, he cry a lot, he is dead inside boohoo ;-; he is a very pure person yatta yatta yatta, just admit that youre still attached to him and he is still your bias, thats why you defended him and you know what, thats what the devil wants. i need yall to just stop and realized that EVERYTHING they do is SCRIPTED, even the cryings and all the 'friendship' they have, its all fake, and i dont trust no people but i asked a bts predictions account that everything they do is fake and most of the cryings are scripted, and trust me on this, and listen to me, they are NOT what you think they are, and if someone is sacrificed in bts, that doesnt mean that they are pure from evil, and if someone cries in cameras a lot, and talk about how they cant sleep, its not 100% true, open your eyes, dont trust your emotions, trust your brain and intuition. also, there are 7 members people????? and yall only talk about your bias, or at least your bias wrecker???? hello??? earth to taehyung stans? i believe they are all hurt but they dont show it that much, yall only care for what the camera gives you and it is absolutely annoying.

and all i need yall to do is MAKE THEORIES, MAKE REAL THEORIES, not ramble about your oppa taehyungie 'uwu ;-; he is in need of help' EVERYONE IN BTS IS IN NEED OF HELP and i doubt he is the only one who 'cries' a lot, yall are just so pathetic, seeing things because THEY ARE IN CAMERAS, if you are here just to say those things, you should just stick to lurking, this thread is made for THEORIES goddamn it, not bts' emotional support team,this is why people leave this thread and there is clearly no real theories here, just some fangirls that convinced themselves to stop stanning them but deep down theyre still, i cant believe some of yall call yourself 'woke' lmao, youre still clearly in their trap.never trust ANYONE in your life guys, because i have been through a lot of backstabs, and trust me, having trust issues is like a shield, and the key to being vigilant.

adios kitty girls <3
Agree completely. What some don't get is how self-obsessed those boys are(and anyone in kpop or high position in real life are). Do you really believe they care for each other when you don't even know you'll debut for sure? They are rivals until the very last second! You never know what are the exact plans of the company for a group. Just like Sug2 thought they'd be a rap groups or sth and end up as an "idol" one. You either stick to it without knowing what'll happen to you or you are kicked out. This is such a programming of either surrendering yourself completely and following everything they tell you or leave it altogether. And mind that they have a free will to choose! This is when you see the real intentions of someone! So they agree on it for fame and money while saying they have freedom in what they do. Really? They are big fat liars and you keep baby-sitting them...
I was an over-achiever and was regarded so highly in my school days but you know what's the reality? It was me against everyone, you lose people and become self-obsessed. It was sad for me because I wasn't doing it on purpose. I was doing it because I thought that's what others wanted from me. But then real life hits you and you realise it's not about this at all. In the end, I saw all those people who bad-mouthed teachers, were constantly cheating on tests and didn't even know why they're studying the said majors getting ahead. But do you know how it all happened? Through other people writing their assignments for them, having secret meeting with the professors who helped them getting fake As and because their parents were rich/high status in the society. And me, a girl with only a mother and no other help out there has to make it on my own. I was so depressed and suicidal because with each day I was seeing the true nature of those teachers and "friends" preaching morals that they don't even believe into! And only God saved me from this and I trust Him only!
Those boys are even worse than that because they want to be basically worshipped by you, a nameless crowd who will applause them whenever they want. Is this what you want? To be someone else's pray and believing a lie that will be destroyed soon. And all of this, while those boys have all the fun, money, women, etc behind the scene. You should be disgusted by them, not seeking for ways to say it's not their fault and that they were forced into it! No, they weren't. No one made them stay training by force. It was their greed to be on TV and therefore idolised. They don't want a simple job where they won't be remembered...

Also, don't forget that us and them have the same 24-hour day and will give account for our lives in front of God. Better use your time on Him and warning others on what's coming!
Don't play it victims, guys thinking you're smarter than satan. It's not about simply knowing the truth but sharing it with others and bringing them back to God. Proverbs 26:11 (KJV) "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly." <---- This proverb really reminds us well what we do each time we go to the dirt and try to find ways to make it look clean. It won't happen and it shows to God you still prefer that dirt instead of Him for your heart still seek satisfaction in the evilness.
Guard your hearts and spend as much time as possible on/with God for the distractions here are many but they only last for a short time. Set your mind on God and our eternal lives.
 
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Interesting, this girl I posted talks about "the sun" card a lot. The sun represents someone who can be a leader, but she is not a BTS fan so she related "the sun" with a person who is most popular

This girl said the other members are jealous of "the sun" and the attention he gets, this could be because Bighit is biased with RM and gives him all the power? ... we have to wait and see what happens :)
You remember when i said j00n would be leaving .. If that really happens.. You know who be the leader? .. JHOPE...
Are you guys seeing how they let H0bi make speeches now while receiving awards.. Rm stands behind.. But h0b1 is the one who speaks mostly recently ...

And since everything with them is pre planned.. Rm said years ago.. IF he won't be the leader jh0pe would be the leader then..

And h0b1 never used the translator guy during the tour concert endings.. He would only try to speak in English . While the others used the translator to translate for them
 

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There is a rumor which army is trying to hide.. When they came back from Japan .. V didn't sit in the regular cars that come and pick them.. He went away on a separate car.. Which was already parked there infront of the other two.. And that he is not staying in the dorm anymore with the others ..

And someone that i follow just posted a post saying that taehyung has been rude envious and having clashes with jamal and k00k and doesn't like j00n .. Notice in the above red carpet pic.. Jamal and k00k are standing away from taehyung .. And trust me it's Jin's job to keep them separate.. During such photo shoots or redcarpet moments

So basically beetees is falling apart i guess ... And the one's you find good may not be good at all.. So stay Vigilant ...
 

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Some people here are still viewing all of this with their feelings. Like you said it's better to stick on theories because some of y'all are still very attached which is quite toxic. You either stan them and be "on their side" or not. Choosing to stan them and come here and try to convince how this member is an "angel" or so pitiful doesn't really make sense. Some of you need to take a total break from the guys by all means (@Jay ho for example). Stay away from stanning and this thread and try to be productive. I promise it will be so worth it, you'll feel free. Come back only when the guys won't have such an effect on your life anymore, not before :)
I clearly said i m again falling for him .i need to stay away from him... I said it good bye all.... i want to achive something in my life thank u fo your time
 

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There is a rumor which army is trying to hide.. When they came back from Japan .. V didn't sit in the regular cars that come and pick them.. He went away on a separate car.. Which was already parked there infront of the other two.. And that he is not staying in the dorm anymore with the others ..

And someone that i follow just posted a post saying that taehyung has been rude envious and having clashes with jamal and k00k and doesn't like j00n .. Notice in the above red carpet pic.. Jamal and k00k are standing away from taehyung .. And trust me it's Jin's job to keep them separate.. During such photo shoots or redcarpet moments

So basically beetees is falling apart i guess ... And the one's you find good may not be good at all.. So stay Vigilant ...
Sources?
 

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Sorry i don't take screenshot of every single thing i read or get to know
No need to say that, no one here is a screenshot maniac, me first. But that's the purpose of this thread though. Theories and stuff we share here need to be proven. I'm not questioning what you said but it would be nice to see what exactly the original post said about this. I was really curious about what you said, that's only why I asked you for the source.
 
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If you're interested about the car incident ..
Search on twitter taehyung Car.. Dated the day they came back from Japan .. You will see the sources..
No need to say that, no one here is a screenshot maniac, me first. But that's the purpose of this thread though. Theories and stuff we share here need to be proven. I'm not questioning what you said but it would be nice to see what exactly the original post said about this. I was really curious about what you said, that's only why I asked you for the source.
Alright ..
 

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Okay, I have quite a few things to say.

First of all, I agree with the fact that we shouldn’t idolize them. I haven’t been idolizing anyone ever. I’m not going to start doing that now. I was a fan I guess. Of them or other people. I believe there’s a difference.

Second of all, what some of you are suggesting is for some of us to stop having feelings altogether. Which, shockingly, is not possible for human beings, unless you’re a psychopath. I feel sorry for idols in koreā or any other place on this earth and that includes Btś.

If you think they knew what they were going to get into you’re delusional. They didn’t. You thought they told some 16 year olds that they were going to sacrifice everything in their lives and have a deal with the devil and everything will be horrible? No. When you’re young (or even an adult in some cases) you’re naive. They painted a beautiful picture and the idols believe it.

I know about the mk ultra and the programming you’re talking about. Point is we don’t know to what extent is that happening. You’re all talking about btś as some robots who have can’t even dye their hair as their own decision. You took it to a point where it’s not even believable anymore. I saw someone saying something about jín being in the occult because he posted a picture with an umbrella. What type of proof is that???? It’s ridiculous.

They were tricked into this dark world like a lot of artists did and they’re staying because they want to. I strongly believe they could get out of they wanted to. It’s hard to do that, maybe that involves dying, but they could. They’re not robots, bíghít doesn’t control their every move. They do things because they want to, not because they’re forced to. They have feelings like everyone else does. So when I say I feel sorry for them is because they’re miserable. Some let that show more than others. They do feel pain. And just because they look like they’re happy doesn’t mean they really are. I think feeling sorry for them is a natural thing. Some of y’all about them like you hate them. That’s not healthy.

I heard all that about being born into the occult. That is possible. But what you’re saying is that they have no way out, so they’re destined to go to hell, which I don’t believe in. I would not worship a God who would let that happen. Jesus died for every single person out there. Everyone has a choice.

I had a talk with my dad and he said something interesting. Satan HAS to say what his plans are. They can’t stay hidden. Just like God put all his plans in the Bible. That’s the reason for all the hand signs, covered eyes, numerology and reversed talking. They have to say who they’re worshipping in one way or another. The signs are purely for that. They don’t affect your life. That’s them saying “Hey, I’m still in the occult”. But it’s good to know what they stand for. The music is a totally different thing. Music can literally control your daily life and turn you into a different person. It’s even been scientifically proven. That’s why we should stop listening to it altogether.

The point is, theories are interesting and addicting but in your desperate way to find proof you don’t make sense. Btś are not robots. And we may act like we know what’s going on but in reality we don’t. We have no solid proof for most things. Maybe they really are evil people, but maybe they’re struggling and they want out. Don’t listen to their music anymore, I don’t. But they’re still human beings so they deserve salvation like everyone else.

God bless.
 

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Okay, I have quite a few things to say.

First of all, I agree with the fact that we shouldn’t idolize them. I haven’t been idolizing anyone ever. I’m not going to start doing that now. I was a fan I guess. Of them or other people. I believe there’s a difference.

Second of all, what some of you are suggesting is for some of us to stop having feelings altogether. Which, shockingly, is not possible for human beings, unless you’re a psychopath. I feel sorry for idols in koreā or any other place on this earth and that includes Btś.

If you think they knew what they were going to get into you’re delusional. They didn’t. You thought they told some 16 year olds that they were going to sacrifice everything in their lives and have a deal with the devil and everything will be horrible? No. When you’re young (or even an adult in some cases) you’re naive. They painted a beautiful picture and the idols believe it.

I know about the mk ultra and the programming you’re talking about. Point is we don’t know to what extent is that happening. You’re all talking about btś as some robots who have can’t even dye their hair as their own decision. You took it to a point where it’s not even believable anymore. I saw someone saying something about jín being in the occult because he posted a picture with an umbrella. What type of proof is that???? It’s ridiculous.

They were tricked into this dark world like a lot of artists did and they’re staying because they want to. I strongly believe they could get out of they wanted to. It’s hard to do that, maybe that involves dying, but they could. They’re not robots, bíghít doesn’t control their every move. They do things because they want to, not because they’re forced to. They have feelings like everyone else does. So when I say I feel sorry for them is because they’re miserable. Some let that show more than others. They do feel pain. And just because they look like they’re happy doesn’t mean they really are. I think feeling sorry for them is a natural thing. Some of y’all about them like you hate them. That’s not healthy.

I heard all that about being born into the occult. That is possible. But what you’re saying is that they have no way out, so they’re destined to go to hell, which I don’t believe in. I would not worship a God who would let that happen. Jesus died for every single person out there. Everyone has a choice.

I had a talk with my dad and he said something interesting. Satan HAS to say what his plans are. They can’t stay hidden. Just like God put all his plans in the Bible. That’s the reason for all the hand signs, covered eyes, numerology and reversed talking. They have to say who they’re worshipping in one way or another. The signs are purely for that. They don’t affect your life. That’s them saying “Hey, I’m still in the occult”. But it’s good to know what they stand for. The music is a totally different thing. Music can literally control your daily life and turn you into a different person. It’s even been scientifically proven. That’s why we should stop listening to it altogether.

The point is, theories are interesting and addicting but in your desperate way to find proof you don’t make sense. Btś are not robots. And we may act like we know what’s going on but in reality we don’t. We have no solid proof for most things. Maybe they really are evil people, but maybe they’re struggling and they want out. Don’t listen to their music anymore, I don’t. But they’re still human beings so they deserve salvation like everyone else.

God bless.
Hey.. I understand what you mean.. but tell me, do you believe in God?
I guess you do, but this means that you know He loves everybody; so He cares about BTS too. This means He tryed to show bts what they do is not right, and this is the reason why they are still not dead: God waits for them to turn back to Him, to the right path. Meaning that yes, there is a chance, they are not completely lost.

Assuming things isn't the best thing to do, in the way you told us we do when we share theories. However, you also assumed that they are not robots, but mkultra literally means this: being controlled 24/7; and if you read more about this you'll see it really is present in the music industry.
Anyway, this thread isn't a scientific documentary. We share thoughts here and not everybody believes the same. It's a nice place to let go of your thoughts and feelings.

Coming back, God let people have their own choice in life. Do u think God is this not fair to let some innocent be part of a satanic group against their wish? No.. this is not possible. God and their angels try to save them, but the freedom of choice they have distroys them.
There aren't many people like this in this word; not for nothing there are only 7. Not everybody is willing to do this, but they did.

It's hard to believe in their recovery; praying means nothing for a stone-cold heart that doesn't want to receive God's light and kindness. Freedom of choice is what leads people to hell. It's a weapon we use wrong, against us..
 

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Hey.. I understand what you mean.. but tell me, do you believe in God?
I guess you do, but this means that you know He loves everybody; so He cares about BTS too. This means He tryed to show bts what they do is not right, and this is the reason why they are still not dead: God waits for them to turn back to Him, to the right path. Meaning that yes, there is a chance, they are not completely lost.

Assuming things isn't the best thing to do, in the way you told us we do when we share theories. However, you also assumed that they are not robots, but mkultra literally means this: being controlled 24/7; and if you read more about this you'll see it really is present in the music industry.
Anyway, this thread isn't a scientific documentary. We share thoughts here and not everybody believes the same. It's a nice place to let go of your thoughts and feelings.

Coming back, God let people have their own choice in life. Do u think God is this not fair to let some innocent be part of a satanic group against their wish? No.. this is not possible. God and their angels try to save them, but the freedom of choice they have distroys them.
There aren't many people like this in this word; not for nothing there are only 7. Not everybody is willing to do this, but they did.

It's hard to believe in their recovery; praying means nothing for a stone-cold heart that doesn't want to receive God's light and kindness. Freedom of choice is what leads people to hell. It's a weapon we use wrong, against us..
See that’s exactly it. I’m pretty sure that by now they know exactly what they’re doing. They know they stand on the wrong side. But my point is, we don’t know if they want out or not. We just assumed they don’t. Also it’s not like a book club or anything, they can’t just leave. I’ve met people who tried for years to get out of the occult but satan sticks to them like glue. It’s not that easy. I’ve seen stuff like that on my own and if someone didn’t personally they cant talk about it. It’s hardcore stuff that words cannot describe.

And I agree with what you said but here is where we don’t see eye to eye. I guess it’s because maybe my idea of God is different than yours. I believe all of us will have to justify our actions because in the end they say they decide if we go to heaven or hell. If those people are controlled 24/7 they have no free will. And if they have no free will how will they take responsibility for their doings? That’s why all the mk ultra stuff is hard to digest. My God is righteous and just. It wouldn’t be just to send some people to hell because someone else made decisions for them.
 

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See that’s exactly it. I’m pretty sure that by now they know exactly what they’re doing. They know they stand on the wrong side. But my point is, we don’t know if they want out or not. We just assumed they don’t. Also it’s not like a book club or anything, they can’t just leave. I’ve met people who tried for years to get out of the occult but satan sticks to them like glue. It’s not that easy. I’ve seen stuff like that on my own and if someone didn’t personally they cant talk about it. It’s hardcore stuff that words cannot describe.

And I agree with what you said but here is where we don’t see eye to eye. I guess it’s because maybe my idea of God is different than yours. I believe all of us will have to justify our actions because in the end they say they decide if we go to heaven or hell. If those people are controlled 24/7 they have no free will. And if they have no free will how will they take responsibility for their doings? That’s why all the mk ultra stuff is hard to digest. My God is righteous and just. It wouldn’t be just to send some people to hell because someone else made decisions for them.
Well, this programming is done when you get in the occult.
See source: https://www.igdid.com/h84-color-coding
In the past when christians had to get rid of their religion to escape alive they were asked to spit on the Cross and step on it and do such sort of dirty things willingly to prove they don't worship God anymore. I guess they had to show their wish to obey to the new religion to be able to get in, before getting programmed.

About people leaving.. idk how hard it is to leave it but two old members of the thread left it.. and I even saw mkultra victims escaping.. I guess if you really want to you can do it.
 

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Well, this programming is done when you get in the occult.
See source: https://www.igdid.com/h84-color-coding
In the past when christians had to get rid of their religion to escape alive they were asked to spit on the Cross and step on it and do such sort of dirty things willingly to prove they don't worship God anymore. I guess they had to show their wish to obey to the new religion to be able to get in, before getting programmed.

About people leaving.. idk how hard it is to leave it but two old members of the thread left it.. and I even saw mkultra victims escaping.. I guess if you really want to you can do it.
I'd like to add.. Iron, an ex-trainee of bighit, shared from his experience that idols (or trainees) stay in row to satisfy staff's dirty wishes to get money and privileges.
Imagine accepting for example being a sexual sclave for money during trainee days.. This happens in romanian music industry (my country). I know a very popular person that left after her debut because she was asked to satisfy their sexual wishes ( this was kept secret.. a friend of hers happened to share it with me).
 

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See that’s exactly it. I’m pretty sure that by now they know exactly what they’re doing. They know they stand on the wrong side. But my point is, we don’t know if they want out or not. We just assumed they don’t. Also it’s not like a book club or anything, they can’t just leave. I’ve met people who tried for years to get out of the occult but satan sticks to them like glue. It’s not that easy. I’ve seen stuff like that on my own and if someone didn’t personally they cant talk about it. It’s hardcore stuff that words cannot describe.

And I agree with what you said but here is where we don’t see eye to eye. I guess it’s because maybe my idea of God is different than yours. I believe all of us will have to justify our actions because in the end they say they decide if we go to heaven or hell. If those people are controlled 24/7 they have no free will. And if they have no free will how will they take responsibility for their doings? That’s why all the mk ultra stuff is hard to digest. My God is righteous and just. It wouldn’t be just to send some people to hell because someone else made decisions for them.
But you always have free will! Yes, there may be people trying to bend you into doing sth against your will but till the last second you have a choice to say no. Just as @deniiiiXD's example above. If you trust in God and want to be with Him, it'll even cost your life. But the moment you choose to save your life, that means you prefer the things of this world. Those boys simply don't want to just do music and "express" themselves. If they wanted that, they wouldn't go into such companies that put you in a frame. This is hypocrisy! So it clearly shows you what they are after - fame and money. This is what they want and they keep pushing themselves wilfully into this. Personally, I don't believe that mk ultra exists in such form in kpop. They just tell you you have to work hard to succeed. I recently watched the first 2 eps of Yg's new show and you can see how it's done. After spending years into this, they just don't want to leave because they'll look like losers in their family and friends' eyes. Aka they look for the approval of this world. And how does the world judge you as successful? Well, you're considered as such if you are a boss, have the highest authority and even be on TV. And believe me, they want all of it. Just because you see them tired, doesn't mean they want to be out. Actually, they exhaust themselves for their own striving of the things above. There's no such thing as them not having a free will. They have one constantly!
Matthew: 19:24 "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”
 
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