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yes I was pointing out the fact they are not aware of their situation actually at all. They like it or not, their situation is worse than they believe. They are sold bc of their actions, because they accepted to worship satan. I believe there is freedom of choice. Yes they can be saved but that's what I was saying: it might be too late then.. after 7 years to turn back to God. Where there is no good roots from young age there is little chance of changing. These are the forming years of a man.

And do you think someone that rejected God in the first place and didn't ever believed in Him will believe that He is the savation? Weak chances.
I was just wondering .. Just a little theoretical thought..
If they backed out of the C..
How would there be the so called sacrifices.. Right.
 





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Their souls dont own satan even they make a deal with him...if they believe that their souls are buy by satan they are dumb. Your soul is not a computer or something like that the soul cant be sell.
Satan want that you think like that. But what you can sell or give them is your humanity that whats make you as human.
They have a chance to break up they are still a life they have a mouth and a brain. But maybe they see their situation as hopeless. But it isnt that hopeless. God have the power they should trust god and comeback to him. The only one that can save them and listen to them and know them and love them more than their parents more than a fan can love them is God!
And also we dont know what its in their hearts is. You can maybe act satanic but in your heart you can believe in god.
Also we have sometimes this discussion about that we sometimes see them as good and sometimes not. Maybe that is their good side that have showed their "real side."
In the end they make their deal some of them maybe forced and some not. That's a difference.
Hmmm yes..
Right

Some might be forced. Some not..

By the way pretty sis did you see j1n hs taken place of h0b1 in not throwing any signs at all..
No v sign.. No horns.. Just the okay one in the choreo of id0l..
But other than that he doesn't throw it..
There is going to be a change soon.. I feel like it..
Because it's a war of survival ...
 





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signed with bighit for 7 more years


bighit statement say "based on mutual trust and affection" maybe trying to sell the family image?

But isn't 7 years a long time? jin will be quite old when the contract is over...and boybands don't keep the popularity for so long



poor Yoongi, bighit just signed them for 7 more years. He looks so sad now imagine 7 years later
Hmmm...Has it been said when they actually renewed their contracts :confused:?
If the content of the video below are true and they are planning things 1-2 years in advance then, it could be possible that they might have signed it prior or just after their first billboard award...

 





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I was just wondering .. Just a little theoretical thought..
If they backed out of the C..
How would there be the so called sacrifices.. Right.
Good question.
There is an example of a person that turned back to God after being an wisard. He became a big saint afterwards.
"Saint Cyprian lived during Emperor Diocletian (284-305). Saint Cyprian was a wizard, philosopher and servant of the pagan god Apollo of Syria's Antioch.

Saint Ciprian - bounces the witchcraft and becomes a bishop
From the story of his life, we find out that a young pagan, Aglaid, fell in love with Justina and wanting to marry her, ask for the help of the wizard Ciprian because he was rejected by the virgin. Ciprian sent successively to the Justina devils to kindle the bodily lust for Aglaid. But the spells of Ciprian were out of effect, for she banished them with prayer, fasting, and the sign of the holy cross. After these futile efforts, Ciprian knew the deception he was in and was baptized. He was ordained a priest, and later a bishop in Carthage. Saint Cyprian died as a martyr on October 2, 304 with Saint Justina."

An interesting confesion of his: "being perfect in all wickedness: sorcerous and charming, soul-losing, great friend and faithful servant of the ruler of hell, with whom only one face in front and great honor from him was worthy. For this he confessed himself, saying, "Believe me that I alone have seen the devil, because by sacrifice I have prayed and kissed him and talked to him and to those who are at his side and they loved me and praised my understanding, and before everyone said "Here is the new Amvri, fast to our obedience, temporarily to our fellowship." And they promised me they would make me boyar after my death, and as long as I have to spend on the earth, they all help me and give me a group of devils for my service. And when I came out of him, he cried out to me: "Courage ".
I was totally given to him, submitting to all his command. "This is what Cypriot himself said after returning to God. ".

It seems the devil promises you only good things after death. I will give in detail some details from his life if you want to read.

Also when he found out the Devil was just fooling him: "
Knowing that the sign of the cross and the name of Christ overcame them, he woke up and said to the devil, "The piercing and all the deceiver, the owner of all the uncleanness and deceit, I have now known your helplessness , that if the ones who make the sign of the cross you can't defeat, then what will you do when Christ alone will come upon you?

I know now that you are nothing, and you can not do anything, and you have no power of prosperity, I have deceived myself, the wicked, by listening to you and believing in your deception, so depart from me, damn you, go away, that it is now up to me to pray the Christians that they will have mercy on me, that it is up to me to run to the faithful to save me and to take care of my salvation: Go, go wrong, enemy of truth, and the hated and hateful of all the world! "

When they heard them, the devil rushed to Ciprian to kill him, and, diving on him, began to strangle him, beating him.
And Ciprian had no help from anybody, and he did not know how to help him and save himself from the terrible devilish hands, and, alive, he remembered the sign of the holy cross by which Justina resisted all the devilish power, and said, "God of Justina, help me also!" Then, raising his hand, he made the sign of the cross and the devil immediately as a long arrow perished from him.
And he, being cold and getting bold and calling the name of Christ, meant the sign of the cross, and so he resisted the devil, reproached him and cursed him. The devil stood far from him and dared not approach, for the sign of the cross and the name of Christ, which scared him and terrified him, saying, "Christ will not bring you out of my claws!" And, angry with him, he roared like a lion, and went away.

The way he got saved: Praying and crying for his mistakes.
"Ciprian, taking all the books of his sorcerers, ran to Antim, the Christian bishop, and, falling at his feet, prayed to have pity on him and give him the Saint Baptism. And the bishop, knowing him a great sorcerer, thought he had come to him with deceit and rejected him, saying, "Many evils you do among the pagans and do not do it among Christians too" . And Ciprian, weeping, told the bishop all his wickednesses and gave him his books to burn them.

Seeing the bishop his humbleness, he showed him and taught him the holy faith and commanded him to prepare to receive the Holy Baptism. And he burned his books in front of all the Christians of the city. Then, with humiliated heart, Ciprian was crying for his sins, sprinkling ashes on his head and repenting, shouting to the true God, and praying for the cleansing of his transgressions.

Also he was not baptized that easily. He had to prove he wants to become a christian following the priest's tips.

"The next day, entering the church, listening to the word of God with comfort and joy, standing among the faithful. And when they called the deacon, he ordered them to come out, saying, "How many are called, come out!".Others went out, and Ciprian did not want to come out, but said to the deacon: "The servant of Christ I am, please let me stay" ( at that time the non-baptized christians could not assist the saint liturgy).

And the deacon said to him, "Since you are still incomprehensible and you don't have the Holy Baptism, for this you ought to go out." And he said, "Christ is my God, who kept me away from the devil, and the pure Justinian guarded and loved me, so do not drive me out of the church until I am a real Christian" .

Then the deacon told the bishop about this and the bishop, knowing his mercy and the warmth of the heart for faith in Christ, called him to himself and immediately baptized him in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Hearing this, Saint Justin's great thanksgiving exalted himself to God, and many kindreds he gave the poor and princes to the church.
And on Ciprian, the bishop read it on the eighth day, on the twentieth day he made him ipodiacon, and on the thirtieth day he made him a deacon, and after a year he ordained the priest.

Ciprian, changing his habit, day by day, straightened his way of life, always crying for his evil deeds before, and went from power to power and kindness to kindness. Then he was soon appointed bishop, and in that place he showed a life similar to that of many great saints, and well pastorated the flock of Christ.

And the holy Justina made her a deaconess and entrusted her with a monastery of virgins, making her an abbot on those Christian virgins.
And pagan people, through his image and his teaching, from the idol worship, turned them back, earned them and united them with the Church of Christ. And the idolatry glory was dull, and the glory of Christ multiplied."


All in all, I know it's pretty long but the idea is that if they turn back to God and want to save their souls.. there should be much determination, persistance and struggle because their past was very dark.
 





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signed with bighit for 7 more years


bighit statement say "based on mutual trust and affection" maybe trying to sell the family image?

But isn't 7 years a long time? jin will be quite old when the contract is over...and boybands don't keep the popularity for so long
Don't know how to feel about this, a part of me hopes and prays that maybe at least one of them will come to their senses and give this all up or something to happen to have a reason to disband in order to stop all this madness for the sake of their souls and the souls of innocent people. Dang, I'm seeing how the "love of money" is a bad root and can really ruin a person's sound judgement.

Even if they'll soon go into the military enlistments, which will come up soon for J!n, they are still in gonna be in contract?
 





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Don't know how to feel about this, a part of me hopes and prays that maybe at least one of them will come to their senses and give this all up or something to happen to have a reason to disband in order to stop all this madness for the sake of their souls and the souls of innocent people. Dang, I'm seeing how the "love of money" is a bad root and can really ruin a person's sound judgement.

Even if they'll soon go into the military enlistments, which will come up soon for J!n, they are still in gonna be in contract?
some fans are saying the enlistments years are not included in the contract and that mean they have 9 years more in bighit but I don't know if it's true

But popular boyband like one direction left their contract as soon as it ended and one of the members Zayn left the group at the peak of popularity
Other kpop idols like sully, Hyuna, SNSD members left their contracts too so for me there is no excuse for BTS. They want to stay with bighit for as long as possible because they love fame and money
In the end is not worth it, they will be has beens by the time the contract is over and already replaced by the new hot thing
 





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some fans are saying the enlistments years are not included in the contract and that mean they have 9 years more in bighit but I don't know if it's true

But popular boyband like one direction left their contract as soon as it ended and one of the members Zayn left the group at the peak of popularity
Other kpop idols like sully, Hyuna, SNSD members left their contracts too so for me there is no excuse for BTS. They want to stay with bighit for as long as possible because they love fame and money
In the end is not worth it, they will be has beens by the time the contract is over and already replaced by the new hot thing
Yes those are not included ..

That's why when the contracts will end all of them will be in their 30s.. H0b1 rm. 33.. K00k 30.. And so on with the others ..
 





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TBH i can't help but to think how these BT21 characters are so darn cute but at the same time, with already having the knowledge of what the boys are secretly(?) up to and involved with these days, keeps me in a constant tug of war to not to get too fixated and guard myself from the craze. and P.S, though he's not picture here, that Van character is so unnecessary and disturbing, makes me angry of why he's associated with this whole branding. Anyone feel the same?
Van represents army in general
Army have duality some are good and some are toxic
Also can head represents the globe and how half army is sleeping and the other half is awake
Van is watching over bt21
Just like how army watches BTS most of the time
 





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I DONT KNOW IF YOU ALREADY SEE IT BUT................................................REALLY........


wtf THE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY I NEVER THOUGHT THIS WAS TO HAPPEN (they are very possessed by them now treat them by the gods of beauty?
I will feel sorry for him when he regrets.. Right not it's his choice and he's content i guess.. But he looks no where near his fav idol..
 





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signed with bighit for 7 more years


bighit statement say "based on mutual trust and affection" maybe trying to sell the family image?

But isn't 7 years a long time? jin will be quite old when the contract is over...and boybands don't keep the popularity for so long



poor Yoongi, bighit just signed them for 7 more years. He looks so sad now imagine 7 years later
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signed with bighit for 7 more years


bighit statement say "based on mutual trust and affection" maybe trying to sell the family image?

But isn't 7 years a long time? jin will be quite old when the contract is over...and boybands don't keep the popularity for so long



poor Yoongi, bighit just signed them for 7 more years. He looks so sad now imagine 7 years later
"Mutual trust and affection" duh. It obvious that the boys doesn't want to continue for another 7 years but the lie that repeat itself becomes true and sadly blind army is believing this lie
 





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Hmmm...Has it been said when they actually renewed their contracts :confused:?
If the content of the video below are true and they are planning things 1-2 years in advance then, it could be possible that they might have signed it prior or just after their first billboard award...

Oh well i guess this didn't work out the way some people thought about it..
B4ng pd has strong hands and support on his back.. So no body dares to question his wealth..
And again it's for the so called Army that boys didn't breakup.. I doubt army is the reason they're together ..

Many army are saying that beetees kept their promise and they will be with us for more time.
I wonder when did they make this promise... Never heard of it before
 





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"Mutual trust and affection" duh. It obvious that the boys doesn't want to continue for another 7 years but the lie that repeat itself becomes true and sadly blind army is believing this lie
It's impossible none of them had a different vision of life for their future ..
It's been mentioned in the video too that i just quoted.. That bands like tvxq and kara.. All broke up because they had different futures planned..
But beetees wants no future i guess..
They're acting as robots.. A possession..

Beetees are breaking another record of being the first group to stick with a company for 14 yrs.. Hmm
 





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Van represents army in general
Army have duality some are good and some are toxic
Also can head represents the globe and how half army is sleeping and the other half is awake
Van is watching over bt21
Just like how army watches BTS most of the time
Those are some good points you got there, but other than the duality concepts of the good vs toxic/sleeping vs awake, you think its also a double meaning that shows the whole one-eye symbolism and duality nature that the !llumin@+i represents? Sorry was just wondering, I'm sure this has already been talked about here before.
 





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Those are some good points you got there, but other than the duality concepts of the good vs toxic/sleeping vs awake, you think its also a double meaning that shows the whole one-eye symbolism and duality nature that the !llumin@+i represents? Sorry was just wondering, I'm sure this has already been talked about here before.
Yeah right ... i think of it more as the handler person behind them.. They're just hiding it behind the name. Of the army.. Like they hiding their success..
One eye.
Duality
Their vehicle
Always looks upon them
Changes in size like a d3m0n would .. And that single horn on its head opens up to make the 2 d3vil horns..
Just a summary of the old posts about Van ..
 





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They used nicki to get into that list i guess... Pop/duo i guess..
Nobody can say anything to them or their genre now.. They're official at unicef and spoke in UN .. So why not grammy... Suga wanted one anyways.. What he wants he gets it..
If someone points at them they will be called racists and would get fired..

I even heard they would even be nominated for the peace nobel prize soon :D..