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I think this might be because of "cupping therapy". I don't know if you've watched the swimming competitions in the olympic, but I noticed that some of the swimmers such as Phelphs had these circular bruises on them. turns out that's what it was. I think it may be some type of pain-relieving therapy? although it is considered as a pseudoscience because there are no determined health benefits (much like bloodletting for indigestion or acupuncture)
Oh right right..
People still do that? ..
Right the shape does look like being cupped...
 





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The lg bt agenda is just too much. When I first started listening to kpop I didn't realise that I would see so many people being so positive about this.
I also saw comments on another video on YouTube where someone said something like: "I don't know why but gay couples are cuter than heterosexual ones." And I once saw a bt-$$ meme with a disgusted face: "Oh, staight people..."
And I was like: Wtf???
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate gay people. Hating someone won't change anything. I just don't like the fact that people are starting to believe that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality. I want their sake.
Well there is nothing wrong with promoting lgbt. People are born homosexual, just as other people are born heterosexual. Ofc it's not like there is a 50/50 ratio between sexualities, but it still exists and on the real there are many more gay people around us than we think there are. They are just in the closet. The lgbt agenda is positive because it makes people less homophobic and opens their minds. Among all the worst things they are doing in their agenda, I think lgbt is the less sinister one. It is scientifically proved even in animal world that homosexuality is perfectly normal, so I don't see anything wrong about it. I just think, their problem is, the lgbt agenda is becoming their main focus, just for the sake of selling the product. Especially knowing they thirst over girls at any chance they get.
 





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I found a lot of things wrong with what Suga said here:


  1. "I want to say everyone in the world is lonely and everyone is sad". FALSE!!! this group has an obsession with romantizing depression and anxiety, not everyone is lonely and sad. But BTS want their fans to feel lonely and sad because that makes them more vulnerable to their braiwashing
  2. "I think what agonize every moment is what life is" FALSE!!! Life is not about agonizing, looking at life that way means you have a pessimist view on everything and that won't help you get over your depression
  3. "I want to tell people Im anxious so are you, lets find the way and study a way together". Brainwashing!!! this means to be a suga fan and relate to his lyrics you have to be depressed too. Suga fans who don't suffer from depression won't be able to relate to his lyrics and will feel left out. What suga is doing here is promoting depression, because if you want to feel closer to him and his music you have to be depressed like him
Suga is romantizing depression and anxiety, he is trying to make his fans relate to him and feel closer to him but you can only do that if you are depressed
He is telling his fans life is all about agony and there is no way out so how can they get over their depression? Suga is not giving them a solution to their problem, quite the contrary
 





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The lg bt agenda is just too much. When I first started listening to kpop I didn't realise that I would see so many people being so positive about this.
I also saw comments on another video on YouTube where someone said something like: "I don't know why but gay couples are cuter than heterosexual ones." And I once saw a bt-$$ meme with a disgusted face: "Oh, staight people..."
And I was like: Wtf???
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate gay people. Hating someone won't change anything. I just don't like the fact that people are starting to believe that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality. I want their sake.
It is normal. You can't pick your sexuality anymore than you can your hair or eye color. A person's sexuality is just a small fragment of who they are. Educate yourselves and you'll understand better. I used to think the same way as you.
 





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now they are saying that nct will gain more fame next year I think it is possible if they make many sacrifices and you think they will be able to surpass bts
They did attend the AMAs.. And you know what.. Beetees would never skip AMAs... They would have changed their tour dates or something but never miss the AMAs..
The prediction guy must have a point there.. Because someone stopped beetees from attending the AMAs ... Because if they attended it.. People wouldn't give a glance or a single damn towards NCT..
It's all a game. All pre planned.. All will fall in the end.. The elites are just playing with their puppets by throwing some cash at them and later laughing..

nct Might have attented the after party .. Where there are all such dirty ritual stuff going on..
A singer by the name b4d bunny literally performed with an eye drawn in the middle of his forehead there.. And others throwing 666 signs and devil horns.. There's nothing good in it..

We don't keep track of nct.. Otherwise we might have gotten the idea.. Who around them died or disappeared...
 





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I found a lot of things wrong with what Suga said here:


  1. "I want to say everyone in the world is lonely and everyone is sad". FALSE!!! this group has an obsession with romantizing depression and anxiety, not everyone is lonely and sad. But BTS want their fans to feel lonely and sad because that makes them more vulnerable to their braiwashing
  2. "I think what agonize every moment is what life is" FALSE!!! Life is not about agonizing, looking at life that way means you have a pessimist view on everything and that won't help you get over your depression
  3. "I want to tell people Im anxious so are you, lets find the way and study a way together". Brainwashing!!! this means to be a suga fan and relate to his lyrics you have to be depressed too. Suga fans who don't suffer from depression won't be able to relate to his lyrics and will feel left out. What suga is doing here is promoting depression, because if you want to feel closer to him and his music you have to be depressed like him
Suga is romantizing depression and anxiety, he is trying to make his fans relate to him and feel closer to him but you can only do that if you are depressed
He is telling his fans life is all about agony and there is no way out so how can they get over their depression? Suga is not giving them a solution to their problem, quite the contrary
You're so right ..
Reading his words only gave me anxiety.. :D..
He should have given a positive message rather than a depressing one...
How in the world is his life full of agony now? It was in the past for sure if his story is true.. But how now? He is a producer.. Has money. Has gaurds.. Has drivers.. Has a supportive team.. He travels around the world.. Now in a private jet.. Still why is there agony?
That's highly unappreciating of what he has.. Instead of thanking GOD ..
 





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Hello Everyone!

It's been a while. I hope you're all doing well. I see there are new members that joined the thread-welcome!

There is something fishy about bts songs I wonder if it's something my mates here on this forum have also noticed: they make songs that focus on mainly two topics
-their successes ( very personal ones which have contributed nothing to the world : like money and fame )
-the "love yourself" thing.
They are brainwashing millions of people to believe that the only two things that should matter to you is bts and yourself.
They literally make no reference to God in their songs ,may God forgive me for saying this but it's like they deny the existence of God , and that's probably all because of the leader who's atheist... But let's just say that it's only God they deny ? Don't they also believe in love ( the sacred one ) ? Don't they also believe in good between people like friendship ? Why don't they encourage such values ? I mean if they realize the power they are given why wouldn't they give a little of themselves and address such positive messages ?
I guess that if they have good in them they would have done that, a million times with pleasure, but they don't, they rather make people believe that God don't exist, he's not there to save you, only you can save you, you are your own god... And if that isn't Satan himself speaking these words I don't know where will they come from .
The one day I will trust bts with my life again is the day they will release a song that talks about literally anything other than bragging about themselves or telling me to love myself, even if it's a song about dogs, but that would also be about them :oops:

Perhaps if they gave more freedom to the other members like Jimin, JK, Jin and V in songwriting, we might have seen a bit more diversity in terms of lyrics. I really don't see these members coming up with songs like fake love, idol, piped piper, BST, epiphany or the other creepy/disturbing lyrics. I believe we would have had more love/heartbreak songs typical of a boy band. I could be wrong though.


Now I don't remember where I saw this (this thread or elsewhere) but the rapline write their own parts and the vocal line sing whatever they're given. So they market magic shop as a song by JK for the fans, but how much of it was he involved in and how much of it was changed from the original song. Did he write the chorus for example?
Does anyone know if they talked about it?

Another thing that was mentioned here was the book into the magic shop and the song was probably inspired by the book. I don't see how JK could have been aware of this book but R M? definitely.

It's really strange. I think as long as R M and their CEO have the most influence in their song choice and production;we'll continue to see more disturbing albums.
 





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They did attend the AMAs.. And you know what.. Beetees would never skip AMAs... They would have changed their tour dates or something but never miss the AMAs..
The prediction guy must have a point there.. Because someone stopped beetees from attending the AMAs ... Because if they attended it.. People wouldn't give a glance or a single damn towards NCT..
It's all a game. All pre planned.. All will fall in the end.. The elites are just playing with their puppets by throwing some cash at them and later laughing..

nct Might have attented the after party .. Where there are all such dirty ritual stuff going on..
A singer by the name b4d bunny literally performed with an eye drawn in the middle of his forehead there.. And others throwing 666 signs and devil horns.. There's nothing good in it..

We don't keep track of nct.. Otherwise we might have gotten the idea.. Who around them died or disappeared...
Award shows are very much rituals imo it’s a platform where all celebs can meet and do the satanic stuff they do
Also everything in Kpop is planned, and every Kpop group knows it. There is no luck or individuality that makes a certain group more popular, because every group is there for a reason even rookie groups or unpopular ones
I was watching an SF9 interview and Dawon (one of the members) said that SF9 will sweep Kpop in 3 years this was December 2017. We can’t predict the future but SF9 have become very popular after their latest comeback they even got a place on billboard
Sorry this isn’t related to BTS, but BTS also had this “prediction” (a group will hit it big in 5 years) sorry was it Siwon who said that I can’t remember
It’s not just Kpop everything is planned including the leaders of our governments (Donald Trump way back in the Simpsons) and world attacks are also planned by the Elite Very Little is a coincidence
And yes what’s up with nct I mean their songs are blatantly satanic they were on Jimmy Kimmel AMAs billboard on numerous occasions and their success was very fast as they debuted not Long ago
Taeyong and a few other members give me VERY eerie vibes too and they used to be one of my fave groups but there was always something off with him especially Jaehyun seems the nicest
Sorry still not BTS but I’m wondering will they share popularity with BTS or wait till BTS dies down
 





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Another thing I'd like to add is I personally found the iisuperwomanii girl's speech at the UN much better and worthwhile than the nonsense we heard from R M. Now I don't support her, but at least she's showing her millions of fans and other youth to think about and help others. To me compared to the boys, she's much better in terms of her message.
 





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You're so right ..
Reading his words only gave me anxiety.. :D..
He should have given a positive message rather than a depressing one...
How in the world is his life full of agony now? It was in the past for sure if his story is true.. But how now? He is a producer.. Has money. Has gaurds.. Has drivers.. Has a supportive team.. He travels around the world.. Now in a private jet.. Still why is there agony?
That's highly unappreciating of what he has.. Instead of thanking GOD ..
BTS doing songs bashing haters: "I'm so popular, have so many awards and money, travelling around the world living the life I always dreamed"
BTS 2 minutes later: "I'm so sad and lonely, life it's all about agony and having no way out"

Army are products of BTS music and image: A pure mix of depression and narcissism. A fandom who act like bullies but have a victim complex too. BTS teached them to be this way
 





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I found a lot of things wrong with what Suga said here:


  1. "I want to say everyone in the world is lonely and everyone is sad". FALSE!!! this group has an obsession with romantizing depression and anxiety, not everyone is lonely and sad. But BTS want their fans to feel lonely and sad because that makes them more vulnerable to their braiwashing
  2. "I think what agonize every moment is what life is" FALSE!!! Life is not about agonizing, looking at life that way means you have a pessimist view on everything and that won't help you get over your depression
  3. "I want to tell people Im anxious so are you, lets find the way and study a way together". Brainwashing!!! this means to be a suga fan and relate to his lyrics you have to be depressed too. Suga fans who don't suffer from depression won't be able to relate to his lyrics and will feel left out. What suga is doing here is promoting depression, because if you want to feel closer to him and his music you have to be depressed like him
Suga is romantizing depression and anxiety, he is trying to make his fans relate to him and feel closer to him but you can only do that if you are depressed
He is telling his fans life is all about agony and there is no way out so how can they get over their depression? Suga is not giving them a solution to their problem, quite the contrary
Not to be a mood ruiner, but I seriously think you should chill. There is nothing wrong with having mental issues, even less to talk about them.
It can happen to anyone at anytime. Just because they are singers or millionaires doesn't mean they don't know what human emotions feel like. Yes, they do satanic shit and things we can't even think of, but still, a sad mood is inevitable for a person to experience in his lifetime. Everyone gets stressed and trust me depression happens even when you have everything else in the world. I am not necessarily saying S/g has it and we should feel sorry for him, maybe it's just a facade, and he is just milking it.

But before you point fingers, I think you should try to really understand that depressed people get bruised easily by words. Saying that someone doesn't have any reason to be depressed or to talk about struggles is exactly why these people so far aren't raising their voices. They are afraid to be judged about this behavior. It's not brainwashing, mental illness is real. Just let me remind you a name, Jonghyun.
He suffered from depression, prior to his death. Suicide or murder, you may say he had no reason to feel sad and let down, cause people loved him and he had lots of money. But he did.

People listening to depressing music, being depressed themselves, helps relieve the pain, because it feels like they relate with the lyrics. If these songs help people overcome mental problems, is it really brainwashing ? I think it is just a getaway from real life problems.

As long as they don't get attached to them and fall in the fandom, I think these songs may be help for some people. Not all people turn to religion, you know, some just like other ways to console themselves. Music is quite a method.
 





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BTS doing songs bashing haters: "I'm so popular, have so many awards and money, travelling around the world living the life I always dreamed"
BTS 2 minutes later: "I'm so sad and lonely, life it's all about agony and having no way out"

Army are products of BTS music and image: A pure mix of depression and narcissism. A fandom who act like bullies but have a victim complex too. BTS teached them to be this way
Talk about two-faced people. They know what they raising.
 





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You're so right ..
Reading his words only gave me anxiety.. :D..
He should have given a positive message rather than a depressing one...
How in the world is his life full of agony now? It was in the past for sure if his story is true.. But how now? He is a producer.. Has money. Has gaurds.. Has drivers.. Has a supportive team.. He travels around the world.. Now in a private jet.. Still why is there agony?
That's highly unappreciating of what he has.. Instead of thanking GOD ..
Because anxiety and depression come from a disorder in your brain. Having money, fame, anything at all doesn't change the chemical imbalance in the brain. He was struggle with thar for the rest if his life. I know because I do too. And I have a wonderful life.
 





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Did you notice the lgbtq propaganda? V said he wanted to sing a love song with Jimin but the director or somth said it doesn't make sense bc he should sing it with a girl so consequently the song won't be realised.

And how a fangirl reacted to this? Yes :"omg no :mad::mad::mad:what a mean man. I want this song to be realised. There is nothing wrong with the love between two men. It's even better than the one between a boy and a girl.. I mean look how cute V and Jimin are together o_O"

And also the fact he isn't bare faced in his hotel room.. it's obviously a roleplay.
So if I understand correctly, V wanted to sing a love song with Jimin but their producers told him he should sing it with a girl (obviously if it's a love song) but he chose to not release it because he couldn't sing it with Jimin????:confused:

What I want to know is did he write this song? and if yes, as a songwriter shouldn't the priority be having your song produced and released?

I mean is it that important to him to sing it with Jimin? it doesn't make sense unless there is something else he's hiding...

like maybe they wanted to make changes and he didn't like the changes..etc
 





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Award shows are very much rituals imo it’s a platform where all celebs can meet and do the satanic stuff they do
Also everything in Kpop is planned, and every Kpop group knows it. There is no luck or individuality that makes a certain group more popular, because every group is there for a reason even rookie groups or unpopular ones
I was watching an SF9 interview and Dawon (one of the members) said that SF9 will sweep Kpop in 3 years this was December 2017. We can’t predict the future but SF9 have become very popular after their latest comeback they even got a place on billboard
Sorry this isn’t related to BTS, but BTS also had this “prediction” (a group will hit it big in 5 years) sorry was it Siwon who said that I can’t remember
It’s not just Kpop everything is planned including the leaders of our governments (Donald Trump way back in the Simpsons) and world attacks are also planned by the Elite Very Little is a coincidence
And yes what’s up with nct I mean their songs are blatantly satanic they were on Jimmy Kimmel AMAs billboard on numerous occasions and their success was very fast as they debuted not Long ago
Taeyong and a few other members give me VERY eerie vibes too and they used to be one of my fave groups but there was always something off with him especially Jaehyun seems the nicest
Sorry still not BTS but I’m wondering will they share popularity with BTS or wait till BTS dies down
Based on what happened earlier .. I can say They will share.. But just not come in each other's ways..
They won't steal the spotlight from each other .. Everything will be planned in a certain way ..

Like Olympics performance by Ex0.. Beetees was also invited to perform.. But the refused saying they have a tough schedule ..
 





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Not to be a mood ruiner, but I seriously think you should chill. There is nothing wrong with having mental issues, even less to talk about them.
It can happen to anyone at anytime. Just because they are singers or millionaires doesn't mean they don't know what human emotions feel like. Yes, they do satanic shit and things we can't even think of, but still, a sad mood is inevitable for a person to experience in his lifetime. Everyone gets stressed and trust me depression happens even when you have everything else in the world. I am not necessarily saying S/g has it and we should feel sorry for him, maybe it's just a facade, and he is just milking it.

But before you point fingers, I think you should try to really understand that depressed people get bruised easily by words. Saying that someone doesn't have any reason to be depressed or to talk about struggles is exactly why these people so far aren't raising their voices. They are afraid to be judged about this behavior. It's not brainwashing, mental illness is real. Just let me remind you a name, Jonghyun.
He suffered from depression, prior to his death. Suicide or murder, you may say he had no reason to feel sad and let down, cause people loved him and he had lots of money. But he did.

People listening to depressing music, being depressed themselves, helps relieve the pain, because it feels like they relate with the lyrics. If these songs help people overcome mental problems, is it really brainwashing ? I think it is just a getaway from real life problems.

As long as they don't get attached to them and fall in the fandom, I think these songs may be help for some people. Not all people turn to religion, you know, some just like other ways to console themselves. Music is quite a method.
I never said people who have money or popularity have no right to be depressed, if I did please quote me and point to me that part

the point of my post: Suga say EVERYONE feels lonely and sad, and this is not true. People suffer from depression? yes. But saying everyone is feeling lonely and sad is not true and a way to make fans who are not feeling this way think they are not "normal"

And he said: "I think to agonize every moment is what life is" that is a very dangerous mesage he is sending to his young fans. So much negativity for what reason?

Suga can write about his depression and I have nothing against people who suffer depresion. But in that interview he is sending a pessimistic mesage to his young fans with no hope of recovery. And to me it looks like pure negativity on his part
 





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Suga is romantizing depression and anxiety, he is trying to make his fans relate to him and feel closer to him but you can only do that if you are depressed
There is a difference between romanticizing and talking bluntly about a topic. Just because he is an artist doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't feel depressed and should romanticize the feelings to gain attention. He is really depressed and he wants people like him to relate. Maybe he is not depressed irl, we never know, but what he says about depression is all true. All depressed people see life as agonizing, heavy and tiring, he is just telling the truth. It is not the best message you can find out there, but that is how depressed people see it. It's not brainwashing, it's pure illness. I don't think we should judge him at this part, depression has been, is and will still be a problem. Whether he promotes it or not, getting out of that state is harder than one may think. But talking about how bad life feels in there, eases the pain. We don't feel it, cause we haven't been through it, therefore we can't be affected by it. No song will make us depressed if we are mentally healthy. Those who are depressed will only find a door to feel better, it isn't necessarily a sinister message behind it.