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Vee withholding jm house slippers and jm has him on the ground in seconds
I thought they were play fighting at first but jm wasn't smiling,probably beats Vee up all the time
Vee is not a fighter obviously
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I think they have been, and that it's been settled quietly through mediation. With these things it's easy to claim that it was a coincidence or claim "interpolation", and then the mediator helps them settle for a set amount of money.

I haven't seen @riana Gr@nde interact with or talk about BT5 in a long time. Leads me to believe that something happened. Cause they were all buddy-buddy before.
They haven't mentioned her either. A settlement has a confidentiality agreement. I wonder what happened between them.
 

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I personally love how open and honest you are about your struggles because your story is pretty much the exact same with me lol the only difference we have is age ( I am around the same ages as the hyung line in txt). I was also a fan of TXT after BTS thinking that they would be more genuine but boy was wrong. Since listening to their music it brought so many demons into my life way worse than bts and my mental health started deteriorating ( I struggle with anxiety since I was young and it got worse when I got into kpop) and I was filled with self-hatred, low self-esteem, pornography/ masturbation addiction, family issues, and I would have thoughts about suicide and self-harm. My heart was never at peace. Now knowing what I know I see where it all came from and I am getting better and recovering. Just talk to God and be honest with him about your life struggles and worries. He cares about them and He loves you SO much no matter who you are what your sins are and says that His love for us is so wide and deep and incomprehensible that if we were to feel it it would crush us. Then ask Him to give you strength and courage to talk to your family members about what you're dealing with and what you're going through cause I'm sure they care about you. Also try attending youth groups and retreats at your local church if they have one or maybe even volunteer for a food bank to help those in need and meet new friends, that is what I am currently trying to do. And what I like to do sometimes at night before I go to bed because demons can attack us in our sleep is play bible verses for sleep on what God says about any topic, whether it be anxiety (which is what I struggle with) worrying, or his love for us. This is one of the videos. I've found that playing this helps me calm down as I subconsciously process God's word as I try to sleep.
I also recommend you get this book called Jesus Calling by Sarah Young, It's what I've been reading lately and it's been helping me so much in my relationship with Christ. And If you can't get it it's okay, there is a way you can access it online for free, just type in jesus calling then the date in the search bar on google. For example here is the passage for today. Each passage is like Jesus's tiny love letters to you for each day.

This passage spoke through me so much today because I struggle with self-loathing and self-hatred because of how weak of a person I am and all the mental struggles I deal with and I sometimes compare myself to other people who are self-sufficient and confident in themselves but I came to realize after meditating on this passage that being weak is okay, because that is how God made me and He wants to use me as an instrument to reveal His greatness through whatever vocation he calls me to.
I love you and care for you as a person and as a daughter in Christ and I will be praying for you. God bless sister.
I can honestly relate to everything you just said. when I got into kpop I would always be comparing myself to the idols. I would starve to get the "perfect body" that they had, and then it became a cycle of me binging and starving, repeat. I now hate almost everything about me, and it doesn't help when other people are confirming my thoughts. I did go to the masjid yesterday for prayer (I'm muslim) and I felt really different afterwards. I'm just going to try to start step by step and hopefully get out of kpop and establish a close relationship with God. I also stared volunteering somewhere else a couple months ago so that keeps me a little busy plus school's starting for me. the thing that kinda hurts me even more is because I know they care about me and have good intentions and I'm really lucky that most of them know about all the filth and lies going on these days, so it makes me feel guilty for feeling this way. but they're always taking their anger out on me and nitpicking at me. I have to be the "peacemaker" when my parents are fighting which is happening a lot these days. when I was younger I was bullied at school but they just brushed it off. whenever I breakdown I'm just overreacting to them (I'm sensitive to a lot of things and have a bunch of other issues). that led to me not being open with them and now that I'm older I don't tell them anything. but later in the future I'll try talking to them again. thank you very much for the recommendations! I used to recite certain Quran verses (the 3 Quls) before I go to sleep for protection but I've been forgetting lately + bad sleep schedule due to staying up late/pulling all-nighters. I'll take this as a reminder. aw, thank you so much. I just want to remind you that know that you're worth it. God thinks you're worth it. I love and care about you too and I pray that everything gets better for you. I apologize if this part seemed like a bad attempt to reassure you or something I'm not really good with words but know that I mean it. God bless you too
 

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I wonder if Tae takes JM's stuff to tease him, and JM doesn't handle teasing well at all (Libras are terrible at this) so JM smacks him around.

They have the strangest relationship. They claim to be best friends but they fight constantly. Even the other members have said they fight a lot. Their "friendship" is so toxic. It's like when JK and Jin playfight, cause that's more genuine. Tae and JM straight up shouldn't be around each other.

I often wonder how envious JM was of Tae when he did that Celine photoshoot thing. JM has always been "the model", but in the last few years Tae has taken over the "model" spot. JM had to have been wishing he was the chosen one.
The groups dynamic is really looks toxic not just them
 
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I'll go check those out. I don't have social media except for youtube, but I have been watching the videos people post here which has opened my eyes a lot. I recently deleted my weverse and vlive accounts. I thought I was obsessed with bts, but then I became a fan of txt. at first I thought they were relatable and more genuine, but after learning everything about what goes on it's not hard to see something's wrong. while their songs are stuck in my head and I do admit I'm guilty of sometimes playing one of their songs, it's not as much as I used to before when I would listen 25/8 so that's an improvement. I do kinda get scared sometimes when I got to sleep because I've had a couple really weird/creepy kpop dreams that seem very realistic. though those were last year. I haven't had a dream in a while so it surprised me. for the past year I've just lost interest in everything. my mental health isn't the best because of family issues, masturbation addiction, suicide/sh, etc. and kpop (mostly bts/txt) was the only thing that made me happy. I tend to daydream a lot as a way to escape reality (a lot of my past daydreams were related to kpop in some way). that's probably one of the only things keeping me somewhat mentally stable. I keep telling myself that they don’t actually care about me and they’re fake but even then I still subconsciously daydream about them. so the hardest part for me is getting rid of the emotional dependence and parasocial relationships I have on them. I’m really lonely and have no one to open up to about anything except for my pillow and stuffed animals, or the imaginary people I make up in my head (I have no friends and my family thinks I’m a ✨dumb✨lazy✨ungrateful✨ brat that doesn’t have feelings because I’m only 13 :)). so I’ve been trying to pray more and connect with God again because I know only He can truly free me from everything but it’s really difficult for me to be consistent in worship. but I guess it’s gonna take time and effort. sorry for the mini vent. thank you for the advice! you’re really sweet. it’s really assuring to me knowing that you and others could get out of kpop. God bless you (and everyone else too)!
ill respond to your post soon i've just been a bit busy lately. unrelated lmao but also how were you able to add more emojis?
 
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I wonder if Tae takes JM's stuff to tease him, and JM doesn't handle teasing well at all (Libras are terrible at this) so JM smacks him around.

They have the strangest relationship. They claim to be best friends but they fight constantly. Even the other members have said they fight a lot. Their "friendship" is so toxic. It's like when JK and Jin playfight, cause that's more genuine. Tae and JM straight up shouldn't be around each other.

I often wonder how envious JM was of Tae when he did that Celine photoshoot thing. JM has always been "the model", but in the last few years Tae has taken over the "model" spot. JM had to have been wishing he was the chosen one.
Something shifted during the b.utter promotions. Usually Tae has very few lines, nothing to say in interviews or is ignored. He's usually next to Sg in choreography. Now he's the face of btees and Jm is the it boy in name only. I think he got better sponsors and being close to the chaebol helped. Jm stopped giving services or there's less demand. Sg and Jh have been the breakouts for this hiatus, with lollapalooza and going on ps.y's new hit.
 

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Something shifted during the b.utter promotions. Usually Tae has very few lines, nothing to say in interviews or is ignored. He's usually next to Sg in choreography. Now he's the face of btees and Jm is the it boy in name only. I think he got better sponsors and being close to the chaebol helped. Jm stopped giving services or there's less demand. Sg and Jh have been the breakouts for this hiatus, with lollapalooza and going on ps.y's new hit.
I think being close to the Chaebol helped indeed. Tae also has an intense following, and I'm sure the demand that fans have for him aids in his popularity too.

I've heard that JM doesn't give services anymore. I've also heard rumors of him being in a relationship for the last several years, and the relationship started right before he went to Paris (that trip during their "break" where he was filmed playing a drinking game with a fan). There was also video taken by sasaengs that showed JM shopping with this guy, and there was debate about whether that was his boyfriend or not. Services from JM lessened around that time, so I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship has anything to do with it. This is all speculation though, based on what I've read elsewhere, there's no hardcore proof.
 

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I think being close to the Chaebol helped indeed. Tae also has an intense following, and I'm sure the demand that fans have for him aids in his popularity too.

I've heard that JM doesn't give services anymore. I've also heard rumors of him being in a relationship for the last several years, and the relationship started right before he went to Paris (that trip during their "break" where he was filmed playing a drinking game with a fan). There was also video taken by sasaengs that showed JM shopping with this guy, and there was debate about whether that was his boyfriend or not. Services from JM lessened around that time, so I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship has anything to do with it. This is all speculation though, based on what I've read elsewhere, there's no hardcore proof.
To clarify, "services" is sexually serving the higher ups in H^VE (or whomever they demand)? Some kind of quid pro quo for them (BTEEZ) to get privileges or preferred treatment??
 

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I think being close to the Chaebol helped indeed. Tae also has an intense following, and I'm sure the demand that fans have for him aids in his popularity too.

I've heard that JM doesn't give services anymore. I've also heard rumors of him being in a relationship for the last several years, and the relationship started right before he went to Paris (that trip during their "break" where he was filmed playing a drinking game with a fan). There was also video taken by sasaengs that showed JM shopping with this guy, and there was debate about whether that was his boyfriend or not. Services from JM lessened around that time, so I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship has anything to do with it. This is all speculation though, based on what I've read elsewhere, there's no hardcore proof.
I think all of them were in a relationship, J_hope even brought his supposed Gf at Loolapalooza
 

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To clarify, "services" is sexually serving the higher ups in H^VE (or whomever they demand)? Some kind of quid pro quo for them (BTEEZ) to get privileges or preferred treatment??
That's what I thought it was too.

Which reminds me, I wanted to mention that Sug@ seems to get a lot of preferential treatment. All these opportunities to produce for these big artists, and while P.SY said Sug@ went to him directly, I gotta wonder how many of these opportunities are from him giving out services. Bang Pedo has always had this weird fascination with Sug@ cause of his light skin, so it wouldn't surprise me at all.
 

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I think all of them were in a relationship, J_hope even brought his supposed Gf at Loolapalooza
I'm fairly certain they are all dating. J00n gets dodgy whenever he's asked about it, so I'm willing to bet he's in a relationship. He's a crappy liar. YG gets mega defensive so he's probably defending a relationship. The other guys giggle or act stupid, but still, with them it's obvious they all have partners. And like you said, HS brought his girlfriend to palooza so with him it's extra obvious.

HS has some serious balls to parade his girlfriend around in front of fans without fear of them going crazy on him.
 

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I'm fairly certain they are all dating. J00n gets dodgy whenever he's asked about it, so I'm willing to bet he's in a relationship. He's a crappy liar. YG gets mega defensive so he's probably defending a relationship. The other guys giggle or act stupid, but still, with them it's obvious they all have partners. And like you said, HS brought his girlfriend to palooza so with him it's extra obvious.

HS has some serious balls to parade his girlfriend around in front of fans without fear of them going crazy on him.
There's a video of Jk camping, I'm sure he wasn't alone in that..
 

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I can honestly relate to everything you just said. when I got into kpop I would always be comparing myself to the idols. I would starve to get the "perfect body" that they had, and then it became a cycle of me binging and starving, repeat. I now hate almost everything about me, and it doesn't help when other people are confirming my thoughts. I did go to the masjid yesterday for prayer (I'm muslim) and I felt really different afterwards. I'm just going to try to start step by step and hopefully get out of kpop and establish a close relationship with God. I also stared volunteering somewhere else a couple months ago so that keeps me a little busy plus school's starting for me. the thing that kinda hurts me even more is because I know they care about me and have good intentions and I'm really lucky that most of them know about all the filth and lies going on these days, so it makes me feel guilty for feeling this way. but they're always taking their anger out on me and nitpicking at me. I have to be the "peacemaker" when my parents are fighting which is happening a lot these days. when I was younger I was bullied at school but they just brushed it off. whenever I breakdown I'm just overreacting to them (I'm sensitive to a lot of things and have a bunch of other issues). that led to me not being open with them and now that I'm older I don't tell them anything. but later in the future I'll try talking to them again. thank you very much for the recommendations! I used to recite certain Quran verses (the 3 Quls) before I go to sleep for protection but I've been forgetting lately + bad sleep schedule due to staying up late/pulling all-nighters. I'll take this as a reminder. aw, thank you so much. I just want to remind you that know that you're worth it. God thinks you're worth it. I love and care about you too and I pray that everything gets better for you. I apologize if this part seemed like a bad attempt to reassure you or something I'm not really good with words but know that I mean it. God bless you too
Yes take things step by step, you don't have to rush it's very important. And if you fall and revert back don't beat yourself up about it, just examine what went wrong and strive to try even harder as you pick yourself back up. I'm sorry with what's happening with life at home, I know it must be tough and mentally draining. I wish I could give some advice but I since I don't know you or your family personally I guess it's best to just find complete trust and comfort in God in those situations. Bring all your troubles and burdens up to Him cause he cares. I am also sensitive to alot of things (which is one of things I don't like about myself lol) so I'm currently trying to fix that by talking to Him and telling him what's troubling me. I'll pray for you and your family as well that there may be peace and reconciliation. Thank you so much, and don't worry about it lol, I appreciated your post. God bless again and I hope your day/night is well
 

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Yes take things step by step, you don't have to rush it's very important. And if you fall and revert back don't beat yourself up about it, just examine what went wrong and strive to try even harder as you pick yourself back up. I'm sorry with what's happening with life at home, I know it must be tough and mentally draining. I wish I could give some advice but I since I don't know you or your family personally I guess it's best to just find complete trust and comfort in God in those situations. Bring all your troubles and burdens up to Him cause he cares. I am also sensitive to alot of things (which is one of things I don't like about myself lol) so I'm currently trying to fix that by talking to Him and telling him what's troubling me. I'll pray for you and your family as well that there may be peace and reconciliation. Thank you so much, and don't worry about it lol, I appreciated your post. God bless again and I hope your day/night is well
thank you, really, your messages are really helpful. I hope you also have a good day/night
 
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I think being close to the Chaebol helped indeed. Tae also has an intense following, and I'm sure the demand that fans have for him aids in his popularity too.

I've heard that JM doesn't give services anymore. I've also heard rumors of him being in a relationship for the last several years, and the relationship started right before he went to Paris (that trip during their "break" where he was filmed playing a drinking game with a fan). There was also video taken by sasaengs that showed JM shopping with this guy, and there was debate about whether that was his boyfriend or not. Services from JM lessened around that time, so I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship has anything to do with it. This is all speculation though, based on what I've read elsewhere, there's no hardcore proof.
There's credible evidence that he's with an American soccer player. I think he's bisexual but leans towards women. Men who sleep with other men for money aren't gay, but it can influence their sexuality. He's obviously fallen out of favor. The modeling went to Tae, Jk is the new it boy, and the group treats him like trash.
 

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I don't think Jimin is bi at all, I think he and JK stopped allowing themselves to be exploited like that the second they were able to tbf. I think JM is a very traditionally Busan male and hella misogynistic and thotty. And JK just looks like he's on meth and starving himself.

Tae has slept his way to the top of his circle and is probably completely fucked up in the head. Wasn't there a tarot talking about how dark his energy was? I'd love to find that and read it properly. But I see more fans calling him out for being an arrogant dick. The second he and jennie are confirmed, his fans will dip. So I feel like he's securing what he can now. But it comes across as so desperate. He's also hella fruity. That is not someone who has ever liked girls I think.

And about the Vmin relationship..Jimin is a crazy ass manipulative Libra and I think he sees through every inch of Tae's fakery which must piss tae all the way off cos he's ALWAYS acting out a part. And he probably just can't do that convincingly with Jimin.
 
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I don't think Jimin is bi at all, I think he and JK stopped allowing themselves to be exploited like that the second they were able to tbf. I think JM is a very traditionally Busan male and hella misogynistic and thotty. And JK just looks like he's on meth and starving himself.

Tae has slept his way to the top of his circle and is probably completely fucked up in the head. Wasn't there a tarot talking about how dark his energy was? I'd love to find that and read it properly. But I see more fans calling him out for being an arrogant dick. The second he and jennie are confirmed, his fans will dip. So I feel like he's securing what he can now. But it comes across as so desperate. He's also hella fruity. That is not someone who has ever liked girls I think.

And about the Vmin relationship..Jimin is a crazy ass manipulative Libra and I think he sees through every inch of Tae's fakery which must piss tae all the way off cos he's ALWAYS acting out a part. And he probably just can't do that convincingly with Jimin.
JM being with an American doesn't even surprise me. I don't know if they are still there, but a fun piece of verified info is that BigSh!t used to have photos of JM and Shannon Williams together all over the company in the non-public areas of the building. Their relationship was like the golden relationship, lol. Granted, Shannon is British/Korean but basically she's a foreigner and therefore him being with another foreigner is plausible.

I don't think JM is bi either. I think he's gay. Yes, he has been with women, but a lot of people who are gay/lesbian will date the opposite sex due to being in denial.

Tae is fake and I wish more people could see this. Like, his behavior isn't Tae being a "precious bean", it's total BS. YG even said that when he first met him he thought there was no way he was real. Tae also has conversations with himself, not a "hearing voices" sort of talking to himself, like childishly playing pretend by himself, usually while he does chores. It is super weird and for some reason the other members and his fans condone this.
 
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I don't think Jimin is bi at all, I think he and JK stopped allowing themselves to be exploited like that the second they were able to tbf. I think JM is a very traditionally Busan male and hella misogynistic and thotty. And JK just looks like he's on meth and starving himself.

Tae has slept his way to the top of his circle and is probably completely fucked up in the head. Wasn't there a tarot talking about how dark his energy was? I'd love to find that and read it properly. But I see more fans calling him out for being an arrogant dick. The second he and jennie are confirmed, his fans will dip. So I feel like he's securing what he can now. But it comes across as so desperate. He's also hella fruity. That is not someone who has ever liked girls I think.

And about the Vmin relationship..Jimin is a crazy ass manipulative Libra and I think he sees through every inch of Tae's fakery which must piss tae all the way off cos he's ALWAYS acting out a part. And he probably just can't do that convincingly with Jimin.
I think Tae is bi. He's liked and been attracted to women, especially if a woman is beautiful by the Korean beauty standards. Until this year, it was considered delusional to think he was gay, but he let his hair down in Paris. How anyone thought he was straight after the breadcrumbs he's dropped, his relationship with B0gum and his gay friends. Tae is a survivor and refuses to go back to a normal life.

I think Jm gave services until the last Cord3n show. He wasn't very cooperative and kept moving away and looked upset. Jk is too old for the sponsors. His appeal was pedobait and then he got buff and cute and female fans were into him for his masculine appearance. His tattoos and aura aren't as attractive to sponsors. There's a lot of younger idols and he's past his due date. This industry is sick how it grinds up the talent to spit it out in a few years.
 
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JM being with an American doesn't even surprise me. I don't know if they are still there, but a fun piece of verified info is that BigSh!t used to have photos of JM and Shannon Williams together all over the company in the non-public areas of the building. Their relationship was like the golden relationship, lol. Granted, Shannon is British/Korean but basically she's a foreigner and therefore him being with another foreigner is plausible.

I don't think JM is bi either. I think he's gay. Yes, he has been with women, but a lot of people who are gay/lesbian will date the opposite sex due to being in denial.

Tae is fake and I wish more people could see this. Like, his behavior isn't Tae being a "precious bean", it's total BS. YG even said that when he first met him he thought there was no way he was real. Tae also has conversations with himself, not a "hearing voices" sort of talking to himself, like childishly playing pretend by himself, usually while he does chores. It is super weird and for some reason the other members and his fans condone this.
His imaginative play is different too but btees encourages it. One in eight straight men, and 33 percent of straight women have been with the same sex but are straight. Millennials and zoomers are more open to different sexualities and explore themselves more than the older generations.

He may struggle with his sexuality because of services he was forced to give. That's a common response in people SA'd by the same gender.
 
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