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minnie82

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Many adults can't distinguish reality from fantasy either. I read stories of Armys in their 20-40s and up. They got into btees because something was lacking in their life or a bad relationship with their partner. Idols are the perfect boyfriend or girlfriend. They won't complain, unlimited content means they're always available, and they love you no matter. Except it's fake and they're as real as a cardboard cutout. Western media is a lot of propaganda but it's not a foreign nation indoctrinating another country's population.
Totally true
 

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Seriously how much are they goona drag this topic. They should say if they want to do or not. Their service is not finding a solution it is going round and round. And whoever that politician is trying so hard to get them free from service using that event. I heard a rumor that a politician is fan of v and daily used to visit set and take v used cloth. Weird
Here's my thought regarding enlistment: Just effing enlist.

I read an article recently that Jin said he's waiting for Hive to tell him what to do. Hive doesn't have any control over whether or not he enlists. The SK gov't does. BT5 haven't done what is required for enlistment to be waived. Just do the stupid service and call it a day.

@rmy don't even give a crap about Jin anyway. They won't care if he's there or not. Frankly, when YG was out for his "shoulder surgery" they barely cared. (Side note, that YG hologram was the weirdest thing and super creepy. I passionately hated that hologram). So Jin can go into the military, do his thing and BT5 will survive.
 
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Here's my thought regarding enlistment: Just effing enlist.

I read an article recently that Jin said he's waiting for Hive to tell him what to do. Hive doesn't have any control over whether or not he enlists. The SK gov't does. BT5 haven't done what is required for enlistment to be waived. Just do the stupid service and call it a day.

@rmy don't even give a crap about Jin anyway. They won't care if he's there or not. Frankly, when YG was out for his "shoulder surgery" they barely cared. (Side note, that YG hologram was the weirdest thing and super creepy. I passionately hated that hologram). So Jin can go into the military, do his thing and BT5 will survive.
Armys are crying so loud because if Jn serves, their faves have to serve. What excuse can Tae, Jk, Jm or the hyungs use if the oldest does his service? They have to keep him out for the exemption. Once he goes that means they all serve.
 

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Western media is a lot of propaganda but it's not a foreign nation indoctrinating another country's population
Oh, yes it is, American films specially has been about indoctrinating the rest of the world, although it was cleverly cloaked. Nowadays they just don't bother hiding it anymore.
Many adults can't distinguish reality from fantasy either.
This could be an interesting topic for another thread. Infantilization of society these days is quite obvious or people remaining stucked in the teenage mentality. Also, the atomisation of society, too many people feeling lonely and depressed and working in bullshit jobs.
American entertainment (movies and t.v.) has been horrible for decades. Most mainstream music has been crap since 1995 post grunge scene
I don't think many people are aware that the propaganda has been there for decades, not just the last 5 years. It's just that, at times it was so subtle, so well dressed as entertainment, that only people with a keen eye could see it.
"SK media might be bad, but what about the US?" It's like comparing a cat turd to a dog turd, both are sh!t at the end of the day.
Exactly, it's the same shit, just at different phases.
 

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Seriously how much are they goona drag this topic. They should say if they want to do or not. Their service is not finding a solution it is going round and round. And whoever that politician is trying so hard to get them free from service using that event. I heard a rumor that a politician is fan of v and daily used to visit set and take v used cloth. Weird
This situation is becoming awkward,are they not shameful to insist with this exemption while others idols are in the army like Ta3min,or Bacon?
 

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I am SO TIRED of those kiddie sound effects they throw in the videos for literally every single little thing! It's so ridiculous. It makes me feel like I'm watching a YT video for a 5 year old playing with clay or toys and not a grown 30 year old man. It's so weird! How can they not feel weirded out by this?? Imagine your fav 30 yo celebrity doing a vlog and add that music in.
 

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I am SO TIRED of those kiddie sound effects they throw in the videos for literally every single little thing! It's so ridiculous. It makes me feel like I'm watching a YT video for a 5 year old playing with clay or toys and not a grown 30 year old man. It's so weird! How can they not feel weirded out by this?? Imagine your fav 30 yo celebrity doing a vlog and add that music in.
Teletubbies ,and peppa pig are more mature than boys that sucks contents lol
 

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i wonder....What is JN even doing these days? he could enlist when BT5 announced their "break"

instead he is just there....waiting for what exactly? all the idols from 92 are already enlisted
and JN had the excuse of "bt5 are touring" before but what now?
Exactly
He is obviously waiting for that exemption cuz if not then why hasn't his non talented ass went to the military?? They had so much to say about enlisting in the past but now that it's right around the corner they are silent
If taemin can enlist then so can they
Instead they sitting around pretending to be innocent and child like
 

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I'm watching a YT video for a 5 year old playing with clay or toys and not a grown 30 year old man.
It's embarrasing to see a 30 year old man taking cartoon boards.
I read an article recently that Jin said he's waiting for Hive to tell him what to do. Hive doesn't have any control over whether or not he enlists. The SK gov't does. BT5 haven't done what is required for enlistment to be waived. Just do the stupid service and call it a day.
Why so much drama about this? Exactly, do the service and stop beating around the bush.
He is obviously waiting for that exemption cuz if not then why hasn't his non talented ass went to the military
If he goes, no one is gonna miss him. He's not the best dancer not the most talented singer, so, dude, cut the crap and go do the military service.
 

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It's embarrasing to see a 30 year old man taking cartoon boards.

Why so much drama about this? Exactly, do the service and stop beating around the bush.

If he goes, no one is gonna miss him. He's not the best dancer not the most talented singer, so, dude, cut the crap and go do the military service.
yes right, his presence is not necessary in the group
 
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Oh, yes it is, American films specially has been about indoctrinating the rest of the world, although it was cleverly cloaked. Nowadays they just don't bother hiding it anymore.

This could be an interesting topic for another thread. Infantilization of society these days is quite obvious or people remaining stucked in the teenage mentality. Also, the atomisation of society, too many people feeling lonely and depressed and working in bullshit jobs.

I don't think many people are aware that the propaganda has been there for decades, not just the last 5 years. It's just that, at times it was so subtle, so well dressed as entertainment, that only people with a keen eye could see it.

Exactly, it's the same shit, just at different phases.
Can you please make a post about the atomisation of society? I've read about it in sociology books, but haven't seen others talking about it.
 

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Armys are crying so loud because if Jn serves, their faves have to serve. What excuse can Tae, Jk, Jm or the hyungs use if the oldest does his service? They have to keep him out for the exemption. Once he goes that means they all serve.
This is an EXCELLENT point that I hadn't even thought of. Hive definitely don't want the maknae line to serve, so they'll do whatever they can to keep Jin out.

Here's the issue with that: He is due to go. If they make him wait too long, then he'd be commiting a crime. They can't afford that either. If that happened, it'd make their precious BT5 look bad. Or, they'll try to throw him under the bus and claim they told him to go but he refused, or pass blame to another organization. However, given how strongly Koreans feel about military service, I doubt that the latter will actually happen.

The reason the gov't and Hive are looking for ways to keep them all from serving are because of the money they bring into the country. SK sucks at marketing themselves outside of their own country. Kpop is based on Japanese shuffle groups. They can't even do their own original thing. I knew NOTHING about Koreans before I started listening to Super Junior (I'm not a fan of them anymore, fyi), and frankly, I still know nearly nothing about Koreans. Anything I know I read, and didn't get from kpop. Korean culture isn't appealing to the rest of the world, and Koreans don't like to share their culture anyway. Many old fashioned Koreans hate on other Asians, especially the Japanese, as well.

I'm still furious with JM about the shirt he wore while they were in Japan. Like, that's great, you show up to their country wanting their money for your music while wearing a shirt that celebrates the deaths of thousands of people, most of whom didn't even agree with Japan being involved in WWII. Real good look. /sarcasm
 

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The fans will say that V is hella talented but everyone and their mother knows ,including himself, that the only appeal he has is being as handsome as he is. That is basically it.

Jimin has the label of being one of the best dancers in the entire industry and an "it" boy, JK is the one with the vocals who has been the frontman. V is the worldwide stan attractor and the all time visual LOL. It's just like Eunwoo who has made hella millions off his face. But Eunwoo is fine af, Vee is aging out and his attitude is ruining him for casual observers I think.

The second something leaks about him and jennie that can't be ignored..the fans will jump ship after the first initial fake ass support.

That's why he is probably trying to create his connections and establish a name for himself outside of the OT7 cos he knows the second he goes in for military service, its a wholeeee wrap lol.
 
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