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Your opinions were well said. I of course don't agree with that they shouldn't be held accountable for the content they now show their impressionable young audience. If this was a few yrs back when the older fans made up armies I'd see what you're saying.

And I'll bring one last thing up if you don't mind. I would not have any issues if they were in a normal adult relationship as you and some have said. I only brought them up because of the possible grooming I think was involved with an underage jk. I'm seeing the signs of a relationship that evolved from a predator/victim one. I mentioned the signs in previous posts so I won't go into them again. And these signs were strong enough that I stopped being a fan of jn. Of course I could be wrong and I hope I am. However, I can't help what I see and feel.
There’s probably no way of knowing if anything happened while anyone was underage. I’ve seen similar comments on videos analyzing them and a lot of people seem to shy away from that thought - obviously, it makes them uncomfortable to face the possibility that there was a wild power imbalance and inappropriateness going on with their faves, and in order to remain fans, they have to tell themselves everything was definitely legal - but there are definitely those that question it. The consensus seems be that if someone was underage, the company and other members would have had to condone it, which is meant to imply that surely not.

This is terrible logic because
1) the company and other members aren’t parents and guardians, they would not be in the business of prioritising someone’s emotional and physical well-being in a relationship, not unless it threatened to derail the money-making aspect,
2) to not condone it would mean the company et al have a good sense of ethics and morals, and while I’m not saying they’re completely unethical and immoral, I am saying they don’t seem like they’re saints either - anyone who enters the entertainment industry thinking management is going to be ensuring the talent remain virginal, abstinent, drug-free, teetotaller, impartial, respectful etc etc individuals is too naive to be in the industry. This is of course a popular image for celebrities to impart in some way, but generally no one can stop anyone from doing anything behind the scenes, least of all management. At the end of the day, if their off-camera activities come to light and mar their image, management can always just cut them loose,
3) let’s say the company and other members knew (and I think they did, it’s hard to miss if you look back on earlier footage that they’ve always had a thing for each other) and told them it was wrong because of current age or whatever, and told them not to, who is to say they listened?? Horny young people living together in close quarters, crushing on each other, and the fans are saying they held back and waited until everyone was an adult? It’s just a bit unrealistic, isn’t it?

I will reiterate again that there’s no way anyone apart from them know. I don’t like to use the g word or see it being thrown around because that’s a serious accusation with serious implications, and I’m definitely not suggesting anything of that nature happened here. Rather, I’m just stating potential what-ifs and also stating that those who say the company could keep a relationship from happening is absurd regardless of who it was between.
 






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Their fans really think btss/kpop can show western artists how to put on a show and I'm like where tf do yall think the stole it from? America or more accurately black america

Beyonce,prince, janet jackson,chris brown, james brown and michael jackson all american entertainers and set the bar for what a performance is

Also bruno mars and britney(so glad she got her freedom btw!)

Ain't nothing they can show us about how to put on a great performance

Also I know chris brown is a shitty person but in his prime he was a pretty decent performer/singer/dancer

And as for successful boy bands there was the jackson 5,new edition,NKOTB,backstreet boys,n'sync, b2k and one direction and they were all western artists
 






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We have a lot of shipping talk at the moment, so I guess I will have to participate.

Well to be honest I really don’t believe anyone of them are together like that. Some of them are better friends which can make their ship seem more realistic, but in my opinion it is just for the fans.

If you look at the groups Bigbang, Shine or EXO you can see that they did a lot more fanservice then BTS and none of it turned out to be real.
And yes, I have no doubt that they have been instructed in how to do it by the company to make it seem as real as possible.

Here is an example where Jungkook shows he too can be quite good at… uhm groping someone.

 






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this kind of exposed how they dont fly as glamorous or treated equal like they portray? and of course armys cant fathom that their company wont ever remotely mistreat or control the members or favor one above the other


i know its creepy and DOES invade privacy, so i wont justify her getting up and taking pics of jimn, but armys are so annoying accusing anyone that gets near bt$ a sasaeng, as though regular people dont travel and can end up being in the same plane as bt$? they are not the only ones travelling! she was literally THERE with them! like why would a random woman bring up about where they were seated if there wasnt an issue? you are supposed to stay silent when you see something fishy?

but others say the plane they were in was just business, no first class... which is still a good seat so its not like jimin was punished or treated cruel, and i get it hes grown and can sit alone, but when were talking about privacy and safety that wouldnt be logical to be left alone.

{edit: dont know where are the photos of jmin but this does confirm that it WAS first class!}
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here you see tae on the right side, meaning jin was on the left, and both were in the second row. yoongs was on the first row.
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and since its a selca, when you mirror it, you see tae is in fact on the right and jin on the left.
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idk,....strawberrypie or whoever, investigate and help lol!
 






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Maybe they expressed their true emotions behind the scenes...

Maybe they could not show those raw emotions in front of the camera... because they will be a mess if they cried with Vee... and they will be "scolded..."

I'm guessing, when the cameras were off, they hugged him...and cried with him... all these emotional pains must've bonded them closer together... they are still humans, afterall...
they should do on camera , if they're really care not off camera..
 






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Seriously, this couldn’t be the fartherest thing from the truth…everything between is staged prior to going on camera….and I hate to disappoint you all that feel like kJ and Jin are a couple but just hard for me to believe that people are this delusional…stop shipping them because jk isn’t worried about Jin nor any other member in that way and people just don’t want to except that the one member that Jungkook is the closest to is Jimin and he’s not in a relationship with him nor Tae….I’m sure the members get a good laugh out of people constantly putting them together and thinking that they really know what’s going on with them but some of the things you guys say are so outlandish that I wonder about some of you guy’s mental health…seriously!!!
We have a lot of shipping talk at the moment, so I guess I will have to participate.

Well to be honest I really don’t believe anyone of them are together like that. Some of them are better friends which can make their ship seem more realistic, but in my opinion it is just for the fans.

If you look at the groups Bigbang, Shine or EXO you can see that they did a lot more fanservice then BTS and none of it turned out to be real.
And yes, I have no doubt that they have been instructed in how to do it by the company to make it seem as real as possible.

Here is an example where Jungkook shows he too can be quite good at… uhm groping someone.

I would hope it is all fake. I personally think the fanservice and shipping nonsense is way over the top and often times disgusting. All of the b*s content these days seems to be for the shippers. The soup show for example from what I've seen is just various clips where one of the members comes at jk with fanservice. How boring and weird.

Now the only thing I was concerned about is the possible abuse of a minor. But jk is a grown a** man now and from what I can see a messed up one at that..it is what it is. I pray for this new generation of young people under hype.
 






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I'm surprised too. There's so many Indian comments under every single post or video. Indians who hate kpop or the crazy fandom call them out on Reddit and IG. I don't understand how so many Indians follow them, when the Indian music and movies industries are bigger than SK's. Japan is the most lucrative market outside of SK. I'm surprised they weren't the first entry. The saddest is black women. They're stanning a musical genre that steals their own, repackaged it and added some racism.
I am from India, and I love my bollywood better than kpop. Bollywood atleast has songs that are so relatable.. our songs have a poetic flair that captures the essence of human emotions and other relatable things in life.

When I was an army, I also though BTS was good, better than bollywood. Now that I am not a bts stan anymore, I am so so lucky that our music industry is good.
 






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this kind of exposed how they dont fly as glamorous or treated equal like they portray? and of course armys cant fathom that their company wont ever remotely mistreat or control the members or favor one above the other


i know its creepy and DOES invade privacy, so i wont justify her getting up and taking pics of jimn, but armys are so annoying accusing anyone that gets near bt$ a sasaeng, as though regular people dont travel and can end up being in the same plane as bt$? they are not the only ones travelling! she was literally THERE with them! like why would a random woman bring up about where they were seated if there wasnt an issue? you are supposed to stay silent when you see something fishy?

but others say the plane they were in was just business, no first class... which is still a good seat so its not like jimin was punished or treated cruel, and i get it hes grown and can sit alone, but when were talking about privacy and safety that wouldnt be logical to be left alone.

{edit: dont know where are the photos of jmin but this does confirm that it WAS first class!}
View attachment 65551View attachment 65552

here you see tae on the right side, meaning jin was on the left, and both were in the second row. yoongs was on the first row.
View attachment 65554

and since its a selca, when you mirror it, you see tae is in fact on the right and jin on the left.
View attachment 65555



idk,....strawberrypie or whoever, investigate and help lol!
I want to know what's going on too. That's bs if they made him ride in business class. It's possible something happened and they overbooked the ticket. Army is pissed and calling Bh out. Anything the company does pisses them off.
 






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this kind of exposed how they dont fly as glamorous or treated equal like they portray? and of course armys cant fathom that their company wont ever remotely mistreat or control the members or favor one above the other


i know its creepy and DOES invade privacy, so i wont justify her getting up and taking pics of jimn, but armys are so annoying accusing anyone that gets near bt$ a sasaeng, as though regular people dont travel and can end up being in the same plane as bt$? they are not the only ones travelling! she was literally THERE with them! like why would a random woman bring up about where they were seated if there wasnt an issue? you are supposed to stay silent when you see something fishy?

but others say the plane they were in was just business, no first class... which is still a good seat so its not like jimin was punished or treated cruel, and i get it hes grown and can sit alone, but when were talking about privacy and safety that wouldnt be logical to be left alone.

{edit: dont know where are the photos of jmin but this does confirm that it WAS first class!}
View attachment 65551View attachment 65552

here you see tae on the right side, meaning jin was on the left, and both were in the second row. yoongs was on the first row.
View attachment 65554

and since its a selca, when you mirror it, you see tae is in fact on the right and jin on the left.
View attachment 65555



idk,....strawberrypie or whoever, investigate and help lol!
Their company is so freaking cheap that they would jeopardise their safety on a long flight like this! Where's The private plane they were bragging about a couple of yrs ago? Guess that was a rental and just for show like everything else with them. And the members were wearing expensive clothes sure but it was mostly from their endorsements, fila and louis V.
 






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I am from India, and I love my bollywood better than kpop. Bollywood atleast has songs that are so relatable.. our songs have a poetic flair that captures the essence of human emotions and other relatable things in life.

When I was an army, I also though BTS was good, better than bollywood. Now that I am not a bts stan anymore, I am so so lucky that our music industry is good.
It's really good. Foreign actors go there to act in films. It's sad how people put their own country down to stan kpop. I like the music in a lot of the films. Do you know why there's so many fans in your country? I'm interested in the reason.
 






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Their company is so freaking cheap that they would jeopardise their safety on a long flight like this! Where's The private plane they were bragging about a couple of yrs ago? Guess that was a rental and just for show like everything else with them. And the members were wearing expensive clothes sure but it was mostly from their endorsements, fila and louis V.
They don't own anything. It's like Motown or rap labels in the 90s. The company gives them what they want to. They made so much money, and should have a jet and cooks, the best of everything. Why don't they? Where's the money they made Bh? This isn't beneficial to the guys.
 






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Their company is so freaking cheap that they would jeopardise their safety on a long flight like this! Where's The private plane they were bragging about a couple of yrs ago? Guess that was a rental and just for show like everything else with them. And the members were wearing expensive clothes sure but it was mostly from their endorsements, fila and louis V.
And thats a fact, theor clothes, specially the one that are worn on the shows, places were they're filmed, is mainly sponsor's, didnt call em walking adv panel for no reason, which is quiet sad tbh, them being treated like products isnt a good thing at all, also Park being the only one in a business class, we were just talking few days ago bout him being the fav,(or him having money more then the others or whatever the reason is) and although, his privacy was invaded, which im against it, is fishy.
 






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And thats a fact, theor clothes, specially the one that are worn on the shows, places were they're filmed, is mainly sponsor's, didnt call em walking adv panel for no reason, which is quiet sad tbh, them being treated like products isnt a good thing at all, also Park being the only one in a business class, we were just talking few days ago bout him being the fav,(or him having money more then the others or whatever the reason is) and although, his privacy was invaded, which im against it, is fishy.
Maybe he is no longer the favorite or maybe he never was. Or maybe they used rock, paper, scissors to decide who would get the bad seat.
 






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Will say this..
When their fave in SK airport be like..
The amount of people surrounding them and all armies said was have a safe flight, a joke! They know they can sh!t on Americans and the U.S. because the majority of them aren't from here. I saw some of these idiots complaining about slow Wi-Fi in the U.S. and how a group live will be cut off a million times. No one asked them to come here! Lol and last time their live was cut off in N.Y. because one of their staff was caught spreading crap about jm online. So where do we go from here.
 






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Taejin is also a ship and these shippers all see what they want to see...if you look hard enough all of them can be shipped with each other cuz they all do some suspect shit which is fan service imo

Also why do armi keep lying saying that btss are the first asians to be nominated for grammys when Bruno mars,HER,Anderson paak and amerie are all half asian grammy winners? Amerie is half korean and anderson is 1/4 korean while Bruno and HER are half Filipino

I guess only full blooded east asians count as asians now huh

Edit: amerie is a two time grammy nominee which is still great
 






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It's really good. Foreign actors go there to act in films. It's sad how people put their own country down to stan kpop. I like the music in a lot of the films. Do you know why there's so many fans in your country? I'm interested in the reason.
It's really good. Foreign actors go there to act in films. It's sad how people put their own country down to stan kpop. I like the music in a lot of the films. Do you know why there's so many fans in your country? I'm interested in the reason.
It sure is! In bollywood, we have actors from eastern europe, America, Uk and many other.

As to why there are many fans in India for BTS, there are quite a few reasons that I have observed personally. First, our songs are slow and poetic, and quite romantic in nature. Its these slow songs that bore youngsters (teens and pre teens and even young adults).. BTS songs are quite upbeat and fast, which fans in India seem to prefer.

Secondly, when BTS spoke or have spoken HINDI, indian fans tend to go crazy ans think of them as our "own".. Like these are our people too, and they care about our country too.

Third, I think BTS's "fake" personality seems to have resonated. with the Indian fans. Many seem to "relate" to their personality - introvert, extrovert etc..

Fourth, the increase of investments in India for Spotify and massive streamings seem to have generated a lot of fans..

These are just my personal observations...
 






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