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I heard he have, a restaurant with his brother as a partner, but i dunno if it's true ...
Yup, he does. And there was a bit of controversy with jn, because his brother had to sell his car to keep the restaurant afloat during the pandemic last yr. A lot of people were pissed and wondering why jn didn't help out since he's co-owner and filthy rich.
 






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Yup, he does. And there was a bit of controversy with jn, because his brother had to sell his car to keep the restaurant afloat during the pandemic last yr. A lot of people were pissed and wondering why jn didn't help out since he's co-owner and filthy rich.
Oh wow! Didnt know about that, thats bit weird tho, why wouldnt he help his brother, do u think their manager control how they spend their money as well ?!? But still he'd have something of his own...
 






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Yup, he does. And there was a bit of controversy with jn, because his brother had to sell his car to keep the restaurant afloat during the pandemic last yr. A lot of people were pissed and wondering why jn didn't help out since he's co-owner and filthy rich.
oh interesting!

you make really good points, but I just have this feeling that for the life of me can't shake off that he's not filthy rich. he would not be in btees the way he is rn. treatment towards him would be glaringly obvious if he truly were bc SK is like that.

his family is like steel spoon at most

i also think jn has been maltreated by staff in the past, not to the extent the maknae line has, but he's not immune.
he's at the same level as yngee, maybe even below tbh.
 






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A bit random, but found the spiral symbol again their spring day behind the scenes. (on sg scarf)
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It is crazy psychologically f ed up and repulsive to literally clothe and constantly surround your personal slaves with reminders of their abuse and slavery.
Bangpd really gets off on seeing all his boys be humiliated and controlled ! Honestly he seems almost obsessed or fanatical, se#ually, by what seems to be this "fantasy" that he has. Despite my repulsion, I would be curious to know more about what is really up in his mind psychologically, like he seems to be genuinely obsessed by fully controlling all these boys, also how the managements and the bands of the company are basically exclusively male...really f d up

Also in the video you can see how the weather must have been really cold, and most of the time they were inappropriately clothed for this cold. It is said that one of the many mkultra techniques are also things like exposure to cold/heat. I am pretty convinced by now that all these photo shoots etc. are also a big part of the mk abuse. (and ofc the behind scenes stuff that we dont get to see). But if one really pays attention, there are always little moments in the shoots, where one can see conditions that are actually problematic and bordering one abuse. This is just one example. Or the cold water is another example, in an enh#pen bts video, one member complains about how the water is very cold, but it is only for like 2 secs so it is something that most ppl overlook ofc. Many other examples but I will leave it at that for now.
There's an explanation that's less conspiracy and more common than we think. When you mentioned the men working at Bh, it made me think of something. Those are the enforcers. Most idols are short and frail but the men protecting them are burly. Are they really protecting them from sasaengs or keeping them there?

This is S3jin. He's their former manager and now the head of security at Bh.
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These are other bodyguards or managers for the company.
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Here's some info about the types of pimps or sex traffickers that exist and how they treat sex slaves and trafficked people.
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It's a well known secret in SK that idols don't make as much as, let's say, actors and famous athletes. Even female idols and actresses won't give idols the time of day because they don't make much ( with a few exceptions of course ); you might think that B*S is arguably the biggest act in the world right now and they're above other idols but when i really think about it, it wouldn't surprise me if they make pennies compared to what they truly deserve to make or when you put them against western acts.
 






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she's right about the glam group, and i agree with her (re: another post on her curiouscat) that sesangs are on the company's payroll, but her ideas about other things are like way off. she's convinced not a single member in btß is gay when a whole se0kjin exists. lmao, please.
and maybe she was a joonee stan and still remembers him fondly? but yo namjoon does sh*t for the group [speaking of the 2020-2021 namj00n; he had more influence before, for sure]. he literally contributed zero lyrics to the sh*tty english songs that charted on billboard this year.

what keeps btß running is everything around them that's working like a machine - spon$ors, multiple brand deals, p*do acquiring other companies like he's gonna d*e tomorrow, pumping out merchandise constantly to milk armee as much as possible, et al. we know the drill.

disclaimer: btw if the first part of my reply sounded a little bit ranty / aggressive, it's not directed at you, strawberry, but at btstarot who uses the deck in the weirdest ways ever. i honestly believe that her best info/insight wasn't gotten "through the cards" but from her snooping around like we do.

thanks for sharing as always <3
 






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Hate this group now, but this makes me sad. He was nodding off and sleepy. Poor kid. That's really fucked up.
This is an eleven minute vid of just jk falling asleep.
I skimmed it and saw most of the clips he was underage so still growing. It's very disturbing. He would be nodding off everywhere..in the middle of photoshoots, backstage, and one clip he was falling asleep standing up at the airport, his manager had to wake him. And the comments are acting like it's cute. Like did it ever cross their pea brains that he's being overworked to the point of exhaustion and he is not getting to sleep at nights?
 






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she's right about the glam group, and i agree with her (re: another post on her curiouscat) that sesangs are on the company's payroll, but her ideas about other things are like way off. she's convinced not a single member in btß is gay when a whole se0kjin exists. lmao, please.
and maybe she was a joonee stan and still remembers him fondly? but yo namjoon does sh*t for the group [speaking of the 2020-2021 namj00n; he had more influence before, for sure]. he literally contributed zero lyrics to the sh*tty english songs that charted on billboard this year.

what keeps btß running is everything around them that's working like a machine - spon$ors, multiple brand deals, p*do acquiring other companies like he's gonna d*e tomorrow, pumping out merchandise constantly to milk armee as much as possible, et al. we know the drill.

disclaimer: btw if the first part of my reply sounded a little bit ranty / aggressive, it's not directed at you, strawberry, but at btstarot who uses the deck in the weirdest ways ever. i honestly believe that her best info/insight wasn't gotten "through the cards" but from her snooping around like we do.

thanks for sharing as always <3
No problem and you're welcome! I was just sharing to see what everyone thinks. I like some of her insights and others I don't agree with. We definitely talked about the sasaengs. They get that close because they're paid to.
It's not that different from paparazzi paid by celebrities to take pictures. Their schedule is posted online. The Korean fan culture allows fans to see them leaving shows and on their public schedules. When their schedule is private, no one's allowed to be there. The intense fan and company culture means the idols have no one to turn to. No friends in the group, family makes money from them and the company only cares about what they do for them.

The account said btees lives in Bh building. I think t×t does too. Who lives in their real home? They're like slaves.

 






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This is an eleven minute vid of just jk falling asleep.
I skimmed it and saw most of the clips he was underage so still growing. It's very disturbing. He would be nodding off everywhere..in the middle of photoshoots, backstage, and one clip he was falling asleep standing up at the airport, his manager had to wake him. And the comments are acting like it's cute. Like did it ever cross their pea brains that he's being overworked to the point of exhaustion and he is not getting to sleep at nights?
That's far from cute. It's a recognized form of torture and against humans rights. How is this different from other forms of child labor? He was a slave.
 






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Oh wow! Didnt know about that, thats bit weird tho, why wouldnt he help his brother, do u think their manager control how they spend their money as well ?!? But still he'd have something of his own...
oh interesting!

you make really good points, but I just have this feeling that for the life of me can't shake off that he's not filthy rich. he would not be in btees the way he is rn. treatment towards him would be glaringly obvious if he truly were bc SK is like that.

his family is like steel spoon at most

i also think jn has been maltreated by staff in the past, not to the extent the maknae line has, but he's not immune.
he's at the same level as yngee, maybe even below tbh.
Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn's family was not as well off as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.
 






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Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn's family was not as well as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.
What if his father lost the inheritance from his father? Their alleged chaebol grandfather had four sons. He let two run his business and the other two disappeared. There's nothing on them. It's possible he lost his money and the only thing he has is his upbringing and the way he carries himself. Another possibility is his family disinherited him. I don't lean towards that because they spent time with him as a trainee and his mom lent him dishes to cook for btees. His brother lent money for food. Something is off. He has the bearing, education and upbringing of a well-to-do young man.
 






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Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn was not as well off as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.

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Imo they aren't.
 






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Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn's family was not as well off as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.
lmao all i got from the jk situation was that he probably broke as hell, saesangs rethink your choices before you get with a broke man XD
 






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No problem and you're welcome! I was just sharing to see what everyone thinks. I like some of her insights and others I don't agree with. We definitely talked about the sasaengs. They get that close because they're paid to.
It's not that different from paparazzi paid by celebrities to take pictures. Their schedule is posted online. The Korean fan culture allows fans to see them leaving shows and on their public schedules. When their schedule is private, no one's allowed to be there
woah it's crazy how saesangs really work; comparing them to paparazzi feels very appropriate.

The intense fan and company culture means the idols have no one to turn to. No friends in the group, family makes money from them and the company only cares about what they do for them.
no wonder some idols just give up :(

The account said btees lives in Bh building. I think t×t does too. Who lives in their real home? They're like slaves.

if that's true that's so freaking sad for them all, but especially btß the biggest, most popular boyband in the world.
yo, maybe that's why hyve keeps their lights on 24/7?
 






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