BTS discussion thread

[arhur12]

Here's some info about Jk for you @eaisa

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Yes they are right about the solo fandoms x-0 fandom is constantly fighting between themselves because their are too many solo stans who don't support every members activities I think something similar could happen to bt5 that's why they haven't gone solo yet.

 

[Fujiko]

Yes they are right about the solo fandoms x-0 fandom is constantly fighting between themselves because their are too many solo stans who don't support every members activities I think something similar could happen to bt5 that's why they haven't gone solo yet.

Who are in Xo the most toxic solo stans?

 

[arhur12]

Who are in Xo the most toxic solo stans?

Ba3khyun and d.0 and ka1 fans I think are the most toxic ba3khyun fans are the worst they are arrogant bcz he is a million seller now. They actively hated on ka1 when he got good promo from 5m for his debut they do the same with other 5m male soloists.

 

[ScarlettRose]

Ba3khyun and d.0 and ka1 fans I think are the most toxic ba3khyun fans are the worst they are arrogant bcz he is a million seller now. They actively hated on ka1 when he got good promo from 5m for his debut they do the same with other 5m male soloists.

I wouldn’t call those people “fans”, since they hate the other people from the fandom (real fans). Detest the real fans and throw shit to the artist (the ones they don’t like) and act like saessangs.

Instead of be a true fan and support solo and group activities and see the artists happy about their personal decisions, they say mean things like when it was exposed that JongDae (Chen) was married and about to be a father, and those “”fans”” wanted to him to leave the band…

Bunch of resentful envy idiots.

This really shows how disgustingly toxic the fandoms can be, around the world, not just South Korea or Far East region.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Yes I remember reading about this but I did not know it was called milk club I think 5m and bigshit planned on clearing the way for bt5 and it could also be possible that sull1's death was a sacrifice for nct just like superm was an agenda to push them in the west. 5m is definetly involved with some occult stuff too many of their idols have mental health issues or try to commit suicide I think 5m tried to sabotage their own groups for bt5. Both x-0 and sh1nee could be big in America but in 2017 both of their careers hit a halt. With sh1nee it began with 0new's scandal which hurt their reputation among knetz I think that was staged they were probably pressuring 0new and sh1nee to disband with that scandal and then we know what happened to j0nghyun sh1nee are just a shell of their previous selves now without j0nghyun and with T@emin in the military now and other members more intrested in variety and acting I don't think they will be able to maintain their popularity for long after this.

check this X-0 were supposed to win most of the daesang awards that year but they manipulated the results for bt5 to win after this 5m and yg artists stopped going to award shows which further paved the way for bt5 worldwide success the beef only stopped in 2020 but ba3khyun still did not attend mama last year even though other 5m artists were there x-0 new song is flopping on korean charts even dcm did better than DFTF.

Was sm trying to destroy their own groups? It's rumored that companies will sabotage their artists when they want to debut new groups. What would Sm gain from that?

 

[Strawberrypie]

He was probably a sacrifice for either sh1nee or x-0 man 5m keeps killing their idols I feel bad for them

It's two of them, brothers who killed themselves the same day. It's very suspicious. Amber from fx was friends with one of them. Their friends didn't know what happened for a week. She was so affected by her friend's death, she took 6 months away from the group.

5m doesn't care about their idols they only care about money it is common for them to drop their senior artists in favor of younger groups.

That happens all the time. What's the point of SuperM? It's supposed to be a way to make money while members of the main group are away for military service.

Exo are def better than Bts , not only them but there's others underrated boy groups that from some small company that are way better

Infinite seemed pretty good. The fansite of Jk used to be L's until she exposed his dating. There's a lot of decent groups but they don't get a chance with btees. I think ex0 was purposely sabotaged to make way for btees. I don't blame them for boycotting the shows. Maybe that's why Ba+ekhyun and Tae aren't as close anymore.

Ba3khyun and d.0 and ka1 fans I think are the most toxic ba3khyun fans are the worst they are arrogant bcz he is a million seller now. They actively hated on ka1 when he got good promo from 5m for his debut they do the same with other 5m male soloists.

Leave Bacon alone! Jk lol, but he even supported Kai when he released the song Mmmh. He recently went into the military, so wondering what he will do when he's back.

I wouldn’t call those people “fans”, since they hate the other people from the fandom (real fans). Detest the real fans and throw shit to the artist (the ones they don’t like) and act like saessangs.

Instead of be a true fan and support solo and group activities and see the artists happy about their personal decisions, they say mean things like when it was exposed that JongDae (Chen) was married and about to be a father, and those “”fans”” wanted to him to leave the band…

Bunch of resentful envy idiots.

This really shows how disgustingly toxic the fandoms can be, around the world, not just South Korea or Far East region.

The situation with Chen was horrible. People saying terrible things to his baby and wife. He's old enough to do what he wants. They should be happy for him. I wasn't a fan of everyone in btees but didn't spend time hating on them. I was a Tae and Jk stan, although I started with Rm, Jh and Sg. Now I can't stand Tae. He's the gateway drug for Armys. After getting hooked, everyone finds a new bias. His personality, lack of enthusiasm and disdain for his fans are a turn off.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Guys can you look at this and tell me what is going on with jk's leg? Or is it just me needing eye surgery? his leg look so odd when zoomed inView attachment 57547

He's talked about his leg problem before. That doesn't even look like a leg.

 

[ScarlettRose]

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Leave Bacon alone! Jk lol, but he even supported Kai when he released the song Mmmh. He recently went into the military, so wondering what he will do when he's back.

The situation with Chen was horrible. People saying terrible things to his baby and wife. He's old enough to do what he wants. They should be happy for him. I wasn't a fan of everyone in btees but didn't spend time hating on them. I was a Tae and Jk stan, although I started with Rm, Jh and Sg. Now I can't stand Tae. He's the gateway drug for Armys. After getting hooked, everyone finds a new bias. His personality, lack of enthusiasm and disdain for his fans are a turn off.

Stop wondering what would BH would do when he is discharged from military service and stream DFTF !! “ψ(｀∇´)ψ ~ huhuhu!( 〃´艸｀)


I saw recent photos of him and other members and they all look good shaved! (´｡• ω •｡`) ♡ ♡ ～('▽^人) ).

He will do what he has to do when he finishes that and will have to train a bit again to get the kinaesthetic dance ability again along with signing.

I think that even if they call themselves “fans” they are not really fans because that would mean they support JD personal decisions and not be angry at him or even make criticism against the band members.

Despite of what we comment in these forums about K-Pop, the idols, and the companies, musically the X/O vocals are great and I don’t mind to listening from time to time.

And no bities member can reach their shoes in vocal technique or melismas-runs and adlibs. X/O are phenomenal at singing and trying different styles while bities are great at the hip-hop part specially, not so much as vocals.

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I knew bities in 2016 I hooked for 1 year and later I got sick of it for some years until recent months during the “19” stuff. I am not so into it as when I met them but I liked the hiphop songs and I still listen to them sometimes. I liked Suga a lot and JHope, the bias.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Stop wondering what would BH would do when he is discharged from military service and stream DFTF !! “ψ(｀∇´)ψ ~ huhuhu!( 〃´艸｀)


I saw recent photos of him and other members and they all look good shaved! (´｡• ω •｡`) ♡ ♡ ～('▽^人) ).

He will do what he has to do when he finishes that and will have to train a bit again to get the kinaesthetic dance ability again along with signing.

I think that even if they call themselves “fans” they are not really fans because that would mean they support JD personal decisions and not be angry at him or even make criticism against the band members.

Despite of what we comment in these forums about K-Pop, the idols, and the companies, musically the X/O vocals are great and I don’t mind to listening from time to time.

And no bities member can reach their shoes in vocal technique or melismas-runs and adlibs. X/O are phenomenal at singing and trying different styles while bities are great at the hip-hop part specially, not so much as vocals.

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I knew bities in 2016 I hooked for 1 year and later I got sick of it for some years until recent months during the “19” stuff. I am not so into it as when I met them but I liked the hiphop songs and I still listen to them sometimes. I liked Suga a lot and JHope, the bias.

What's the 19 stuff? I wasn't an Army for long so don't know about some of their stuff. I learned more after leaving than when I was a fan. I think Bacon will be fine. He's a strong person and very hardworking. He's improved in English and vocal abilities a lot. I love the song Paper Cuts because CX works so well together. I'm a fan of his personality but have started to pull away from all kpop. There's no innocent groups once they rise to the top. Even some of the nugus are questionable.

 

[ScarlettRose]

What's the 19 stuff? I wasn't an Army for long so don't know about some of their stuff. I learned more after leaving than when I was a fan. I think Bacon will be fine. He's a strong person and very hardworking. He's improved in English and vocal abilities a lot. I love the song Paper Cuts because CX works so well together. I'm a fan of his personality but have started to pull away from all kpop. There's no innocent groups once they rise to the top. Even some of the nugus are questionable.

“C0DïV-19”.

Yes, of course none of them is innocent as you say. But musically it doesn’t mean than I don’t like them vocally or artistically as actors for example (Dyo),, (or TaeTae vocals from “The Era of the Girls”) and that they don’t work their ass off to be the good artist and entertainents they are.

Get away from the Hallyu Wave if you feel like it, but that doesn’t mean that you don’t like some stuff from them professionally speaking. And as I say this to you is also an advice for myself. Don’t attach to it emotionally, but that does not mean that you don’t enjoy the art if it makes you feel good and inspire you to be better. And what you don’t like from other ”layers” of the person, just dispatch it.

 

[Strawberrypie]

“C0DïV-19”.

Yes, of course none of them is innocent as you say. But musically it doesn’t mean than I don’t like them vocally or artistically as actors for example (Dyo),, (or TaeTae vocals from “The Era of the Girls”) and that they don’t work their ass off to be the good artist and entertainents they are.

Get away from the Hallyu Wave if you feel like it, but that doesn’t mean that you don’t like some stuff from them professionally speaking. And as I say this to you is also an advice for myself. Don’t attach to it emotionally, but that does not mean that you don’t enjoy the art if it makes you feel good and inspire you to be better. And what you don’t like from other ”layers” of the person, just dispatch it.

There's so many names for that horrible disease. It's changed the very fabric of cultures and humankind. I can't separate the person from their art. Once I know what type of person they are, I can't listen anymore. I still listen to btees time to time but have mostly weaned myself from their stuff. That's why I don't listen to most rap music and a lot of other people who are amazing artists but horrible people. I can't support their work. I've stopped listening to artists for hitting fans, abusing women, being terrible to fans or negative people. If btees are in the occult, satanism, or masons, I can't keep listening to them. That's supporting their work. I'd rather support an artist that's not a shill for the elite.

 

[arhur12]

I wouldn’t call those people “fans”, since they hate the other people from the fandom (real fans). Detest the real fans and throw shit to the artist (the ones they don’t like) and act like saessangs.

Instead of be a true fan and support solo and group activities and see the artists happy about

It's two of them, brothers who killed themselves the same day. It's very suspicious. Amber from fx was friends with one of them. Their friends didn't know what happened for a week. She was so affected by her friend's death, she took 6 months away from the group.

That happens all the time. What's the point of SuperM? It's supposed to be a way to make money while members of the main group are away for military service.

Infinite seemed pretty good. The fansite of Jk used to be L's until she exposed his dating. There's a lot of decent groups but they don't get a chance with btees. I think ex0 was purposely sabotaged to make way for btees. I don't blame them for boycotting the shows. Maybe that's why Ba+ekhyun and Tae aren't as close anymore.

Leave Bacon alone! Jk lol, but he even supported Kai when he released the song Mmmh. He recently went into the military, so wondering what he will do when he's back.

The situation with Chen was horrible. People saying terrible things to his baby and wife. He's old enough to do what he wants. They should be happy for him. I wasn't a fan of everyone in btees but didn't spend time hating on them. I was a Tae and Jk stan, although I started with Rm, Jh and Sg. Now I can't stand Tae. He's the gateway drug for Armys. After getting hooked, everyone finds a new bias. His personality, lack of enthusiasm and disdain for his fans are a turn off.

Hey no one is saying anything bad about ba3khyun he is one of my favourites in x-0 but you can't deny that some of his so called fans are toxic.
Bt5 are fake they are as fake as these western celebrities ever since they blew up they don't ever talk about their korean idol friends in interviews they never collab with korean idols every interview they ask them who do you listen to you want to work with they always talk about western celebrities. They never promote their friends.
About chen's scandal it was horrible what they did to him but it was expected premarital pregnancy is a huge scandal in a conservative country like Korea. Western country fans don't understand it because western celebs hardly ever care about morals but as someone who also lives in a very conservative country that thing can destroy careers.

 

[arhur12]

There's so many names for that horrible disease. It's changed the very fabric of cultures and humankind. I can't separate the person from their art. Once I know what type of person they are, I can't listen anymore. I still listen to btees time to time but have mostly weaned myself from their stuff. That's why I don't listen to most rap music and a lot of other people who are amazing artists but horrible people. I can't support their work. I've stopped listening to artists for hitting fans, abusing women, being terrible to fans or negative people. If btees are in the occult, satanism, or masons, I can't keep listening to them. That's supporting their work. I'd rather support an artist that's not a shill for the elite.

Yeah the most important thing for me is their moral character no matter how good their music is if they are bad people in real life I can't listen to their music. I have mostly stopped listening to bt5 ever since I learned about the meaning of blood sweat and tears. I still listen to x-0, sh1nee, red velvet from time to time but I never buy any merch or albums

 

[queen82]

It's two of them, brothers who killed themselves the same day. It's very suspicious. Amber from fx was friends with one of them. Their friends didn't know what happened for a week. She was so affected by her friend's death, she took 6 months away from the group.

That happens all the time. What's the point of SuperM? It's supposed to be a way to make money while members of the main group are away for military service.

Infinite seemed pretty good. The fansite of Jk used to be L's until she exposed his dating. There's a lot of decent groups but they don't get a chance with btees. I think ex0 was purposely sabotaged to make way for btees. I don't blame them for boycotting the shows. Maybe that's why Ba+ekhyun and Tae aren't as close anymore.

Leave Bacon alone! Jk lol, but he even supported Kai when he released the song Mmmh. He recently went into the military, so wondering what he will do when he's back.

The situation with Chen was horrible. People saying terrible things to his baby and wife. He's old enough to do what he wants. They should be happy for him. I wasn't a fan of everyone in btees but didn't spend time hating on them. I was a Tae and Jk stan, although I started with Rm, Jh and Sg. Now I can't stand Tae. He's the gateway drug for Armys. After getting hooked, everyone finds a new bias. His personality, lack of enthusiasm and disdain for his fans are a turn off.

The rose are pretty good too, too bad they were under a shitty agency ..

 

[queen82]

Hey no one is saying anything bad about ba3khyun he is one of my favourites in x-0 but you can't deny that some of his so called fans are toxic.
Bt5 are fake they are as fake as these western celebrities ever since they blew up they don't ever talk about their korean idol friends in interviews they never collab with korean idols every interview they ask them who do you listen to you want to work with they always talk about western celebrities. They never promote their friends.
About chen's scandal it was horrible what they did to him but it was expected premarital pregnancy is a huge scandal in a conservative country like Korea. Western country fans don't understand it because western celebs hardly ever care about morals but as someone who also lives in a very conservative country that thing can destroy careers.

i remember that Hoseok was or is close friend with Eunha Kim , from the girl group The Ark, he also dished about their friendship and army said he just want protect her , i guess they're not friend anymore since she's not at his level ..

 

[ScarlettRose]

Yeah the most important thing for me is their moral character no matter how good their music is if they are bad people in real life I can't listen to their music. I have mostly stopped listening to bt5 ever since I learned about the meaning of blood sweat and tears. I still listen to x-0, sh1nee, red velvet from time to time but I never buy any merch or albums

Qantas the meaning? I don’t like the song anymore, but the Wings greaser song is good (but not the MV). And I still like some songs from the Wings album.

 

[arhur12]

Qantas the meaning? I don’t like the song anymore, but the Wings greaser song is good (but not the MV). And I still like some songs from the Wings album.

Blood sweat and tears is their initiation ritual. The concept behind the Wings album is that the jewish God is an inaccurrate depiction of God and God has both good and bad sides so if a person wants to reach their true potential through self realization they have to accept the good with the bad in the mv all members commit a sin which opens their eyes to the world.

 

[arhur12]

Very informative article exposing bt5

BTS: Generational Icons or Misogynists? | KOREA EXPOSÉ

BTS has found success around the world, but South Korean feminists contend that the all-male group, like many male musicians in their South Korea, objectifies and degrades women with their lyrics and comments.

www.koreaexpose.com

Lyrics of War of hormones
Translation
My eyes keep turning to the girls (yup)
Girls are like an equation, us guys just do them (yup)
Wear them more, your high heels I’m 18,
I know what I need to know I know that girls are the best things in the world
Yes I’m a bad boy so i like bad girl Come here baby, we’re gonna hit it off...
It’s completely ridiculous I don’t care about girls
I’ll play with once and say goodbye But I learn when I see you,
Body 101 My testosterone heavily shows up After winning a war of hormones
I’ll do some research, your existence is against the rules,
a foul If the standard of beauty is in the ocean,
you’re the Seriously Sea 1 A mini cultural asset that should be taken care of on a national level
Her hair, body, waist, legs, even her other unspeakable parts
Saying I don’t care would be ridiculous as a guy I lose it just at her tiniest gestures
Girl, your temptations keep me away from my computer every night
For her, it’s lady first
Girls are like cold ice mountains?
Let it go A female that drives me crazy, provoking me every day
After fighting my hormones again today, I’ll pop my pimple...

They made jungk00k sing this when he was a minor going through puberty.................

Supreme boi a guy who was supposed to be the 8th member of bt5 and is still close to bt5 and works for them worked with iron another problematic person on a song "rollin" which is about a man's r*pe fantasy no apology was issued despite being called out.
https://hiphopkr.com/translatedlyrics/iron-roll-feat-kidoh/
His crewmember iron was caught in drugs scandal and was arrested for beating up his gf he still supported iron. Iron commit suicide in the beginning of 2021


Bobby Chung one of HyB3's prodcucers was involved in a r*pe/suicide scandal

Bobby Chung denies connection with suicide

Bobby Chung of the Autumn Vacation duo denied rumors Wednesday evening about any connection with the suicide of his ex-girlfriend, who was a trainee singer. <br/>The singer, whose real name is Chung Dae-wook, was accused by the ex-girlfriend’s family...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

This is very recent

Bobby Chung again embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct

Singer Bobby Chung has again been embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct. The Seoul Mapo Police Station forwarded a case against Chung for alleged illegal filming and assault to the prosecutor’s office on Monday. Chung, a member of the ...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

And everybody knows about suga's jim jones controversy.
They say you are defined by who you chose to associate with if bt5 are involved with so many problematic people and have done so many shady things in the past what does it say about their character? rookie idols from small companies get cancelled for even the smallest of mistakes but no one calls out bt5 ever.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Hey no one is saying anything bad about ba3khyun he is one of my favourites in x-0 but you can't deny that some of his so called fans are toxic.
Bt5 are fake they are as fake as these western celebrities ever since they blew up they don't ever talk about their korean idol friends in interviews they never collab with korean idols every interview they ask them who do you listen to you want to work with they always talk about western celebrities. They never promote their friends.
About chen's scandal it was horrible what they did to him but it was expected premarital pregnancy is a huge scandal in a conservative country like Korea. Western country fans don't understand it because western celebs hardly ever care about morals but as someone who also lives in a very conservative country that thing can destroy careers.

I like Bacon haha. He's what Tae would have been like if he hadn't been derailed. His grandparent's deaths, the occult activities in btees, position in the group and mental health made him an empty shell next to Ba3khyun. I've heard bad stuff about Bacon, but try to find something good about him. It's because E+o was sidetracked by Sm, that makes them even more interesting. There's something going on with e+o because the president was all over Ba3khyun before Tae. There's rumors that Chen is not happy with his situation. I understand why he married her because my family is conservative. The newer generation is different but the older members of my family were very traditional. Things have changed too fast in society and it's not good. I hope he can be happy with his family and find joy in the daily things.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Yeah the most important thing for me is their moral character no matter how good their music is if they are bad people in real life I can't listen to their music. I have mostly stopped listening to bt5 ever since I learned about the meaning of blood sweat and tears. I still listen to x-0, sh1nee, red velvet from time to time but I never buy any merch or albums

When I find out negative things about celebrities, I stop listening to or watching their stuff. Media can be so influential and I don't want to be influenced by those kinds of people. I won't support anyone who looks down on me or sees me as lesser. It's well known that btees prefers their Karmys despite only talking about Western artists. Iarmys say it ok, but if a western artist did that, it wouldn't be allowed. They get away with bad behavior because people think they don't know better.

Very informative article exposing bt5

BTS: Generational Icons or Misogynists? | KOREA EXPOSÉ

BTS has found success around the world, but South Korean feminists contend that the all-male group, like many male musicians in their South Korea, objectifies and degrades women with their lyrics and comments.

www.koreaexpose.com

Lyrics of War of hormones
Translation
My eyes keep turning to the girls (yup)
Girls are like an equation, us guys just do them (yup)
Wear them more, your high heels I’m 18,
I know what I need to know I know that girls are the best things in the world
Yes I’m a bad boy so i like bad girl Come here baby, we’re gonna hit it off...
It’s completely ridiculous I don’t care about girls
I’ll play with once and say goodbye But I learn when I see you,
Body 101 My testosterone heavily shows up After winning a war of hormones
I’ll do some research, your existence is against the rules,
a foul If the standard of beauty is in the ocean,
you’re the Seriously Sea 1 A mini cultural asset that should be taken care of on a national level
Her hair, body, waist, legs, even her other unspeakable parts
Saying I don’t care would be ridiculous as a guy I lose it just at her tiniest gestures
Girl, your temptations keep me away from my computer every night
For her, it’s lady first
Girls are like cold ice mountains?
Let it go A female that drives me crazy, provoking me every day
After fighting my hormones again today, I’ll pop my pimple...

They made jungk00k sing this when he was a minor going through puberty.................

Supreme boi a guy who was supposed to be the 8th member of bt5 and is still close to bt5 and works for them worked with iron another problematic person on a song "rollin" which is about a man's r*pe fantasy no apology was issued despite being called out.
https://hiphopkr.com/translatedlyrics/iron-roll-feat-kidoh/
His crewmember iron was caught in drugs scandal and was arrested for beating up his gf he still supported iron. Iron commit suicide in the beginning of 2021


Bobby Chung one of HyB3's prodcucers was involved in a r*pe/suicide scandal

Bobby Chung denies connection with suicide

Bobby Chung of the Autumn Vacation duo denied rumors Wednesday evening about any connection with the suicide of his ex-girlfriend, who was a trainee singer. <br/>The singer, whose real name is Chung Dae-wook, was accused by the ex-girlfriend’s family...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

This is very recent

Bobby Chung again embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct

Singer Bobby Chung has again been embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct. The Seoul Mapo Police Station forwarded a case against Chung for alleged illegal filming and assault to the prosecutor’s office on Monday. Chung, a member of the ...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

And everybody knows about suga's jim jones controversy.
They say you are defined by who you chose to associate with if bt5 are involved with so many problematic people and have done so many shady things in the past what does it say about their character? rookie idols from small companies get cancelled for even the smallest of mistakes but no one calls out bt5 ever.

The rapper who called Suga and Rm out, Bfree, he's in jail for assault. The people around them have poor characters. When he says pop his pimple, he doesn't mean the one on his face does he? I don't want to think about that.

I can't stand Suga after the Jim Jones song. That man killed hundreds of people. Primarily blacks, children, elderly and poor people. The most vulnerable were taken into the jungle and murdered. They thought they were building a racial utopia. It was hell on earth. There's so many good articles and books on what happened. There's no excuse for using his voice on a song. It's also said that Suga is very nationalistic and doesn't like Iarmys.