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Is it possible that they were trafficked in different countries or to sponsors from an early age? The maknae line acts odd sometimes. There's videos of them doing things that go beyond playing around. Have you seen how Jk puts anything in his mouth? He imitated something on a party hat that was odd for a guy his age. Jin used to perv on him, rubbing his nipples and tried it with Taehyung during the shooting of Boy in Luv.

I can see them with Jungkook but less with Tae. Which manly traits do you see with them?
for manly traits i mean wide jaws, adam's apple and so on ..
 






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Oh ye

Oh yeah Ive seen all that. They were very young at that time. Jk was too young when his parents sent him to abroad with strangers. That seemed too careless for his parents. Taes parents also did the same. I don't know much about jimin. I blame their parents for not taking care about them at first. But alot of time has past already. I understand from where you are coming from about them. But they are already grown up, all of them are age ranged 24-30 years old, they have all the sense what they are doing. I did consider about the maknae line but, dynamite and new poster is saying the maknae line also have crossed that considertion, simply saying they also have entered the next generation of abusers or starting to get into that.

Wow you put out your analysis so well!! The bisexual part reminds me of a few days what @130713wdydi other members discussed about homosexuality and duality, which can affect greatly on armys. I think they have already entered that dark age and we can see the affect in few months.
their parents were greedy and just want money ...
 






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for manly traits i mean wide jaws, adam's apple and so on ..
I thought you meant behavior lol. I see those too.
To grandmother's place without taking care of him by themselves when they were already looking after other children.
I always side eye him when he starts praising his father. They didn't raise him yet he wants to be just like him.
+Ok...I searched for more symbols after reading some of your posts and as @MariMarrie said, I also think it has bisexual theme.

Bisexual lighting mainly consists of neon pink/red, purple and blue and sometimes green shade too. They had all the color of it.
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As I compared their concept with THIS IS HOW WE DO before, that mv has bisexual theme too beside p3d0 theme.

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You can see they used floating fish here and fish itself has a very interesting meaning in urban dictionary that fits 100% with this theme.

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1. The photo I have shared above of TIHWD shows some men with women.

2. And now here, for the second meaning, from the same mv--
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2 transgender women with flat chest, holding 2 balloons, with men wearing same outfit as before, holding "the daisy" that has an disturbing meaning.

Balloon----

Notice those men and women fulfilled two conditions of the meaning fish so it means they showed bisexual men who were primarily gay.

The same photographic flashlight with bisexual lighting is in bitis concept.
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You can get some interesting meanings of it in 3 and 4 no. but I don't wanna attach here.

As @Strawberrypie said, some of them are shown in erotic pose and has p0rn0graphic theme. J!n is also shown with balloons that can have the same meaning as mentioned above.

But also they flashed suddenly yellow to red balloons too that has a scary story from the movie ''It''.
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"According to the Wiki set up to explain It and his powers, the red balloon is an illusion — one of many — that can be created to lure It's victims to their deaths. Seeing as this scary presence can take the form of anything he chooses but he chooses to become a clown, it's only fitting that It's would deploy the use of balloons. "

They could be showing how they lure children to fall for as their victim with that red balloon, as it already has p3d0 or m0l3stat!on theme. At the end j!n flew it high too just like the movie. In a nutshell they are showing p0rn0graphic, bisexual theme and MORE just like TIHWD.
The red balloons chilled my blood. Have you seen the movie It? The villain is a clown who lures children to their death. He carries a bouquet of red balloons. I personally found the first version scarier than the second. That picture reminds me of that. The yellow balloons remind me of Watchmen. That movie is about the optimism of the 40s turning to hell, seen through the loves of superheroes, some of whom hew closer to villains than saviors. The show Utopian makes use of a lot of yellow, especially in the first one. It's about a group of people who find out about plagues that a covert group is releasing. They hide clues in a comic book called Utopian. One of the main characters is a girl who was experimented on as a child. It's very good but was cancelled recently. Hate to be that person, but maybe they're trying to evoke a response or create a mood with this video? They use happy items in a very dark surrounding. It's also a possiblity they're just using our ideas. Either way, that makes them weird in my opinion.
Oh ye

Oh yeah Ive seen all that. They were very young at that time. Jk was too young when his parents sent him to abroad with strangers. That seemed too careless for his parents. Taes parents also did the same. I don't know much about jimin. I blame their parents for not taking care about them at first. But alot of time has past already. I understand from where you are coming from about them. But they are already grown up, all of them are age ranged 24-30 years old, they have all the sense what they are doing. I did consider about the maknae line but, dynamite and new poster is saying the maknae line also have crossed that considertion, simply saying they also have entered the next generation of abusers or starting to get into that.

Wow you put out your analysis so well!! The bisexual part reminds me of a few days what @130713wdydi other members discussed about homosexuality and duality, which can affect greatly on armys. I think they have already entered that dark age and we can see the affect in few months.
The group txt is under btees influence. Someone made a video showing Yeonjun doing the hip thrust from bapsae. The boys also have Tae manage them. They're starting to do a lot of the same fan service and questionable content a lot sooner than btees did.

Why would a parent let someone they don't know have their kids in a dorm, away from their family and vulnerable to predators. I saw a picture of Jk's mom. She looked very young. Maybe she didn't think about what could happen to him. The group has said they raised him. I find that very sad. A bunch of children raised themselves. Now, they're trying to do the same things to a new generation.
 






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their parents were greedy and just want money ...
They went with them to sign the second contracts. Those are grown men. There was a rumor about the parents suing because they were being filmed while sick or injured. But I didn't hear anything more about it.
 






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They went with them to sign the second contracts. Those are grown men. There was a rumor about the parents suing because they were being filmed while sick or injured. But I didn't hear anything more about it.
i talked about Jungkook in particular, he was a kid when he was a trainee and when he debuted, his parents def sold him to the industry
 






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i talked about Jungkook in particular, he was a kid when he was a trainee and when he debuted, his parents def sold him to the industry
I think all of the maknae line were sold. Has anyone ever seen an audition tape for Tae? What about Jm? I've it seen auditions for Jk, Sg and Jh. Supposedly Jin was picked off the street. That's a snowball's chance in hell of being the truth. There's a girl from a kpop group with a similar story. She's also well to do like Jin and was very homely like he used to be. What did Tae do to get into btees? What about Jm? I have a good idea and it's making my stomach hurt.
 






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I think all of the maknae line were sold. Has anyone ever seen an audition tape for Tae? What about Jm? I've it seen auditions for Jk, Sg and Jh. Supposedly Jin was picked off the street. That's a snowball's chance in hell of being the truth. There's a girl from a kpop group with a similar story. She's also well to do like Jin and was very homely like he used to be. What did Tae do to get into btees? What about Jm? I have a good idea and it's making my stomach hurt.
Their audition stories sound fake to me always, in my opinion they were already selected secretly and just played the role of normal audition boy. Not showing audition clips just proofs they had foul play in that what that b@ng is doing from the beginning. And they weren't struggling so hard as they showed. T4e's family weren't that poor moreover his parents were too greedy for money and decided to sale him. J!m!n used to attend a dance school that seemed his family's living was already wealthy enough to pay for that. I used to feel pity for their condition how they were unprotected from those perverts but now they seem to be happily accepting and gaying with it. You should read the thread thoroughly or use search engine to get more information, these were discussed before.

Squeezing all money from the fans for their idiotic behavior and pushing damaging agendas being a role model isn't a normal job for sane people. They do next to nothing hardwork now than to giggle like idiots in the shows, hundreds of people are getting their work done in that hybe building, they signed 2nd time the deadly contract for nothing. And now they are reaching the level of their handlers slowly, p***philic theme from dynamite was a huge step to progress further and of course to suck that grammy award. I don't see any sign in anyone of them of dissatisfaction with that false godly prideful life, especially jekey nowadays looks creepy and overly prideful to me, like he newly got the sweet taste of evil, Im getting his creepy vibe from the middle of last year. All of them, maknae and hyung line, are now similar with their evil and getting more downwards day by day, tbh this new concept got me speechless. I have no consideration for anyone of them anymore unless anyone really tries to get outta it openly cause showing a little depressing face or stories are like trynna get attention from their level, but that escaping from idol life sounds delusional or fanatic to me now.
 






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Their audition stories sound fake to me always, in my opinion they were already selected secretly and just played the role of normal audition boy. Not showing audition clips just proofs they had foul play in that what that b@ng is doing from the beginning. And they weren't struggling so hard as they showed. T4e's family weren't that poor moreover his parents were too greedy for money and decided to sale him. J!m!n used to attend a dance school that seemed his family's living was already wealthy enough to pay for that. I used to feel pity for their condition how they were unprotected from those perverts but now they seem to be happily accepting and gaying with it. You should read the thread thoroughly or use search engine to get more information, these were discussed before.

Squeezing all money from the fans for their idiotic behavior and pushing damaging agendas being a role model isn't a normal job for sane people. They do next to nothing hardwork now than to giggle like idiots in the shows, hundreds of people are getting their work done in that hybe building, they signed 2nd time the deadly contract for nothing. And now they are reaching the level of their handlers slowly, p***philic theme from dynamite was a huge step to progress further and of course to suck that grammy award. I don't see any sign in anyone of them of dissatisfaction with that false godly prideful life, especially jekey nowadays looks creepy and overly prideful to me, like he newly got the sweet taste of evil, Im getting his creepy vibe from the middle of last year. All of them, maknae and hyung line, are now similar with their evil and getting more downwards day by day, tbh this new concept got me speechless. I have no consideration for anyone of them anymore unless anyone really tries to get outta it openly cause showing a little depressing face or stories are like trynna get attention from their level, but that escaping from idol life sounds delusional or fanatic to me now.
There's no public audition tape for Tae, Jm and Jin. I agree that's a red flag. I've read most of this thread but will search for more about their parents selling them.

A few years ago, Jk was very different. Something has changed with him. Yes they're growing up but when you look at his eyes, there's nothing there. I have to resist babying them or falling for their manipulation. They calculate everything to gain the most attention, money and babying.

I get tired of Armys saying they work so hard. The struggle story is so false. Their success is also the success of hundreds or more employees and ghost writers. Bang was well to do when he trained btees. He chose to take care of them so cheaply. Everyone but btees is living well off their money. Do you think they signed again because he has info on them? There's rumors that one of them was at Burning Sun. Han Seo Hee said Tae was in a club with her when he was a minor. Most people accept that dispatch has or had a deal with Bh to keep their secrets. There's little incentive to keep paying if btees is on the way out. They chose to sign again with one of the worst contracts in kpop. They're benefiting in some way.
 






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I think all of the maknae line were sold. Has anyone ever seen an audition tape for Tae? What about Jm? I've it seen auditions for Jk, Sg and Jh. Supposedly Jin was picked off the street. That's a snowball's chance in hell of being the truth. There's a girl from a kpop group with a similar story. She's also well to do like Jin and was very homely like he used to be. What did Tae do to get into btees? What about Jm? I have a good idea and it's making my stomach hurt.
i think the one of Jin may be a made up story, since he's from a very rich family.. what's the name of the girl group?
 






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There's no public audition tape for Tae, Jm and Jin. I agree that's a red flag. I've read most of this thread but will search for more about their parents selling them.

A few years ago, Jk was very different. Something has changed with him. Yes they're growing up but when you look at his eyes, there's nothing there. I have to resist babying them or falling for their manipulation. They calculate everything to gain the most attention, money and babying.

I get tired of Armys saying they work so hard. The struggle story is so false. Their success is also the success of hundreds or more employees and ghost writers. Bang was well to do when he trained btees. He chose to take care of them so cheaply. Everyone but btees is living well off their money. Do you think they signed again because he has info on them? There's rumors that one of them was at Burning Sun. Han Seo Hee said Tae was in a club with her when he was a minor. Most people accept that dispatch has or had a deal with Bh to keep their secrets. There's little incentive to keep paying if btees is on the way out. They chose to sign again with one of the worst contracts in kpop. They're benefiting in some way.
they all change not just Jungkook
 






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i think the one of Jin may be a made up story, since he's from a very rich family.. what's the name of the girl group?
I think it was Umji. People bullied her, saying she's ugly. Even an article doubted she was scouted on the street. She's glowed up recently and looks very pretty.
they all change not just Jungkook
He never had a chance. Surrounded by yes men and women, doted on and worshipped by fans. That warps well adjusted adult stars. He was raised by his hyungs and exposed to debauchery. I think that applies for the whole maknae line. The group has changed a lot. They can barely be bothered to say hi to fans or look interested during interviews.
 






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I think it was Umji. People bullied her, saying she's ugly. Even an article doubted she was scouted on the street. She's glowed up recently and looks very pretty.

He never had a chance. Surrounded by yes men and women, doted on and worshipped by fans. That warps well adjusted adult stars. He was raised by his hyungs and exposed to debauchery. I think that applies for the whole maknae line. The group has changed a lot. They can barely be bothered to say hi to fans or look interested during interviews.
that's really sad
 






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Speaking of vocals, Jin mentioned about not having a vocal training for 5 years, but BH or Hybe deleted that part. I found the translation on twitter and the unsubbed video on choachan, but I'll just share both the choachan post (just search on that page "kiwi") and the direct link.



The bigger companies put more effort into training their idols. Why didn't they put some of the money back into bts to improve their singing?
 






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Speaking of vocals, Jin mentioned about not having a vocal training for 5 years, but BH or Hybe deleted that part. I found the translation on twitter and the unsubbed video on choachan, but I'll just share both the choachan post (just search on that page "kiwi") and the direct link.




I don't know what to believe because I feel they play victim to get fans more addicted
playing the victim has been part of this group forever

Jin is close to 30 years old
With all his money, why isn't he hiring a vocal teacher for himself?
after dancing for 10 years there are no excuse for being bad at it STILL

sorry if I sound insensitive, but they always use the victim card, maybe BH deleted it because it was bad for the company
But their movies are always about crying and suffering
 






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Their audition stories sound fake to me always, in my opinion they were already selected secretly and just played the role of normal audition boy. Not showing audition clips just proofs they had foul play in that what that b@ng is doing from the beginning. And they weren't struggling so hard as they showed. T4e's family weren't that poor moreover his parents were too greedy for money and decided to sale him. J!m!n used to attend a dance school that seemed his family's living was already wealthy enough to pay for that. I used to feel pity for their condition how they were unprotected from those perverts but now they seem to be happily accepting and gaying with it. You should read the thread thoroughly or use search engine to get more information, these were discussed before.

Squeezing all money from the fans for their idiotic behavior and pushing damaging agendas being a role model isn't a normal job for sane people. They do next to nothing hardwork now than to giggle like idiots in the shows, hundreds of people are getting their work done in that hybe building, they signed 2nd time the deadly contract for nothing. And now they are reaching the level of their handlers slowly, p***philic theme from dynamite was a huge step to progress further and of course to suck that grammy award. I don't see any sign in anyone of them of dissatisfaction with that false godly prideful life, especially jekey nowadays looks creepy and overly prideful to me, like he newly got the sweet taste of evil, Im getting his creepy vibe from the middle of last year. All of them, maknae and hyung line, are now similar with their evil and getting more downwards day by day, tbh this new concept got me speechless. I have no consideration for anyone of them anymore unless anyone really tries to get outta it openly cause showing a little depressing face or stories are like trynna get attention from their level, but that escaping from idol life sounds delusional or fanatic to me now.
after getting a Grammy nom with Dynamite, they will do another song in English trying to get the same attention

Their music getting worse with every album, now they are singing songs for kids, with embarrassing lyrics
their debut albums were all about criticizing the goverment, the school system. And now they are the biggest goverment puppets
the korean president loves them and keep them away from enlistment, all the other male idols are going to the Army while BTS are filming RUN shows playing with toys.
 






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I don't know what to believe because I feel they play victim to get fans more addicted
playing the victim has been part of this group forever

Jin is close to 30 years old
With all his money, why isn't he hiring a vocal teacher for himself?
after dancing for 10 years there are no excuse for being bad at it STILL

sorry if I sound insensitive, but they always use the victim card, maybe BH deleted it because it was bad for the company
But their movies are always about crying and suffering
Hi, the fans are starting to get tired of the victim and struggle story. Maybe they need a new survey to come up with another concept.
 






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There's no public audition tape for Tae, Jm and Jin. I agree that's a red flag. I've read most of this thread but will search for more about their parents selling them.

A few years ago, Jk was very different. Something has changed with him. Yes they're growing up but when you look at his eyes, there's nothing there. I have to resist babying them or falling for their manipulation. They calculate everything to gain the most attention, money and babying.

I get tired of Armys saying they work so hard. The struggle story is so false. Their success is also the success of hundreds or more employees and ghost writers. Bang was well to do when he trained btees. He chose to take care of them so cheaply. Everyone but btees is living well off their money. Do you think they signed again because he has info on them? There's rumors that one of them was at Burning Sun. Han Seo Hee said Tae was in a club with her when he was a minor. Most people accept that dispatch has or had a deal with Bh to keep their secrets. There's little incentive to keep paying if btees is on the way out. They chose to sign again with one of the worst contracts in kpop. They're benefiting in some way.
They have gone too far. They are competing with lady gaga type of s4tanic lady in america, its understandable how deep they have got into occult and sinister business. Its no more about they want it or not, its a cycle which is almost impossible to escape from. The level they have reached already they definitely have many confidential materials to be scared of, containing sexual assault on them or by them, p***philia, or any drug usage or seungri scandal type materials etc etc. I remember how dispatch was using T4e's and jk's photo on their dp continuously. Its like they were scaring bang for more cash to hide out something otherwise will expose them, altho there is no benefit for dispatch by doing that.

I also believe its possible T4e was really in that bar, its not a surprise if he himself was there or for other reason. They are being passed around way too much from debut, bang literally put on an "escort boy" written tshirt on him, how more obvious it can be. But I don't think beetes or bang will be that fool to get involved in burning sun, thats too risky when beetes is still his only ultimate cash cow.
 






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