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I love your posts dont ever think that
all in all i just feel bad for all them. And it sucks especially given that the industry their in, their really isnt no way to help them like I know we all want to do. I know that they are hurting and I see it especially with t ex t's be0mgyu. I was starting to get really into them beginning of the year until God opened my eyes, and after I stopped liking them as long as kpop as a whole, I noticed that he has actually and still continues to give MANY hints and has said multiple times in their shows and such that he is suffering from depression and he doesn't know who he is anymore. What's even sadder is that their company probably doesn't even care. I just pray that they find the truth, but I also think that God had a reason for revealing the truth to us and opening our eyes to get away from kpop 
I have no doubt that He has a plan, and given all that we know, we can just pray for them and the fans who are still trapped, and God will take care of the rest. I also loved how you guys were talking about we cant judge them or gossip about them, cause we really don't know what goes on. I need to remind that to myself also no matter how much it hurts and disgusts me knowing that what they are promoting, or what they possibly could have gone through and sacrificed just to get to where they are, only God can judge them.
~God bless you all
I have no doubt that He has a plan, and given all that we know, we can just pray for them and the fans who are still trapped, and God will take care of the rest. I also loved how you guys were talking about we cant judge them or gossip about them, cause we really don't know what goes on. I need to remind that to myself also no matter how much it hurts and disgusts me knowing that what they are promoting, or what they possibly could have gone through and sacrificed just to get to where they are, only God can judge them. ~God bless you all
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Disagree compeltely. Wasn't it Jimin who called jungkook the korean equivalent of the n word? Wasn't it jimin that appropiated native culture? Wasn't it him that amde colorist remarks.
"Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But not with God. Everything is possible with God."
So they think they can't be saved, but it's a lie. That post you quoted is from three years ago, the situation might have changed now. They have shown in their lyrics that they are not satisfied despite getting what they wanted. Sometimes God does move in a person's life after people pray for them, but like you said, it's up to them which path they choose to follow. God still loves them and can turn their lives around, Jesus still died for them. So while praying for them isn't a lost cause, it shouldn't distract us from serving Him with all our hearts. It's through God's grace only that our eyes are open and our lives found and not lost, glory to God!
Yes, I'll personally try to stop visiting these forums so frequently from now on actually. But what Jesus actually said in those verses is that it's impossible for anyone to go to heaven by their good deeds. He wasn't talking about just the rich man at that point.
26 The disciples were astounded. “Then who in the world can be saved?” they asked.
27 Jesus looked at them intently and said, “Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But not with God. Everything is possible with God.”
Consider this:
"All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." Isaiah 64:6
If someone says they believe, it's reasonable to expect their actions to reflect that. But good deeds are a product of faith, not a precondition. We are saved through grace and grace only. You don't have to change yourself to get saved, God accepts you as you are and the Holy Spirit will take it from there.
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23
You are absolutely right. We wouldn't know if God is moving in their lives or not but for now, there's no reason to think that they've repented, since they show no fruits. Ofc it's good to make amends, if possible. Yet they couldn't ever erase what they have done, similar to how "regular" people also can't take back their hurtful words and actions against others. I still think it's one and the same to God how much sin you've committed, Jesus died for everyone. All sin is not equal in terms of impact, but all sin deserves the death punishment. Jesus already atoned for our sins tho, so that our sins could be washed away, by Him. Ig this is where we're going to disagree, can't do anything about it. There will come a day when even all memory of sin will be erased, by God. Then those who have believed in Christ will live forever, while those who served the devil will be forever separated from their creator.
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The only unforgivable sin is blasphemy of The Holy Spirit. Jesus said it's better for person to die (drown) then to lead children astray, but it's not unforgivable. There are far worst things happening on the earth than what BT5 is doing to fans and Jesus payed for all of those sins. All means all.
BTW what does (pbuh) mean?
just wanted to add that prayer and fasting both help in saving souls! And even if they weren't to change or repent during this lifetime, all our prayers in this lifetime will help them during judgment day. God is both just and merciful. No prayer goes wasted or unnoticed.
Pbuh means 'peace be upon him'
I honestly agree with you, like I said, there's absolutely no reason for us to think they have repented. It is very possible that they've had their changes and rejected them, still, as long as they're alive God can give them more changes, especially if/when believers pray for that. God will pour his wrath over them if they never turn from their sins, but ofc He'd much rather not do that and instead forgive them.
"The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
What they have done is indeed horrible but I agree with what @AmazingGrace said. We should not fixate on them the same way army does but that doesn't mean our prayers amount to nothing or that God can't save them bc He absolutely can, even if it seems impossible or unlikely.
I agree about fasting and the power of prayer but absolutely nothing can help an unrepentant sinner when the time comes. All will see for their own eyes that Jesus Christ is king the day He comes down with all His glory but you do have to repent and believe during this lifetime. At least that's my understanding.
"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." Joshua 24:15
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:10-11
"Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed.”" John 20:29
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"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:10-11
"Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed.”" John 20:29
The Narrow Door
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1373752970895101952/pu/vid/1280x592/B0Qramav9DXsEfMX.mp4?tag=12
what is this?? how was this allowed?
what is this?? how was this allowed?
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HELPPPPPPPP. WHAT IS THIS?? This is mocking religions. How come no armys have come forward with this?
it's from R/Ms 2015 album, a song called "God rap"
you can see the full english lyrics here... they're so obscene
Genius English Translations – RM - God Rap (English Translation)
Amen / Thank God that I can live / Thank God that I can breathe / Thank God that I can spit / Thank God that I can dream / Even though this is beautiful I can see the world I
genius.com
Oh. My. God. Guess we were right when we said they mock religions. This must be spread everywhere so that every religious people are aware of this
Bts respects religions? Everything is a facade and i pray that they're gonna exposed really soon with heavy criticism. I'm a muslim and if i had any ounce of respect towards these 'idols', then it is completely gone now. I wonder how fake they really are. This is not the only time Rm disrespected people, he also used the Nazi symbol once (and everyone forgave him of course because he apologized. Everyone knows what that symbol means but yeah sure, let's baby those grown men in their middle 20s because they are soooo adorable. This issue concerns everyone who believes in one of the abrahamic religions
He really thinks he is a God, huh? I bet Suga does think so too. Maybe every idol out there. This is evilness to the core. And no Rm, you ain't nothing; we are only guests in this world and even if you have money which reaches the sky, you won't take it with you to your grave. Why is nobody thinking about death and the fact that even celebs and rich people die? Nothing matters when the time has come up
All of the maknae line in particular are severely delusional, I don't blame them at all, because they've been brainwashed since they were literal children and sometimes people need to remember that. Jungkook was 13 years old being told he is nothing without his fans, and given scripts on how he is supposed to act. Now he has an ARMY tattoo on his hands that I'm sure any of his peers in America would laugh at. A tattoo of the same people that dragged him for said tattoo, gaining 10 pounds, and having a bad hair period. Taehyung pretended to be an ARMY to seek validation from them. During his depressive periods he lives on weverse just to get attention. Jimin bases his self esteem on how much he is liked by the fans. It's all very sick and twisted what bang PD has done with these men, who were then boys. He has ruined the minds and self esteem of these men forever. These are scars that can not be easily erased. The older ones like Jin, you can tell aren't so dependent on the fans, and even they have their issues. It's all just very sad to watch. People can have their opinions, but I will always sympathize with the maknae line (and all of them for that matter, because I still believe they are victims in some way). Their parents should feel shame.
Lol at least they know. They know, and unlike most celebrities it is one of the most glaringly obvious deals with Satanism I've ever seen, so fans have no choice but to mention it, but are also forced to make a joke of it. It's serving The Weeknd can't feel my face, except the weeknd didn't get away with it as easy. A lot of the GP were onto the shit at the time, but it was swiftly swept under the rug as usual.