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Yes please it will be interesting and useful to understand other groups situations because bts seemed really united and friends..but after seeing these posts and the last videos i really doubt about it...also V and Jimin friendship after watching Festa video seems fake...
Yes it’s really sad what happened to these groups. I felt like crying because I was a fan of
One D and had no idea about all this. This is just what they have said. Worse things have happened to groups under the elite which is unimaginable.

Guys, I know what we talk about here is hardcore but we have to believe that there is always good. Today I felt very sad because today the Christchurch shooter, was sentenced to life in prison for shooting at a mosque last year. It was a day I won’t forget and today I have hurt in my heart because even though he gets life in prison, those who lost their loved ones will never get them back. This world is cruel. People are being killed for their religion, for their race, for fame. But this life is for the evil. No matter how bad things get God is watching and even if we are killed at least we have no fear to stand before God. I feel very sad today after seeing all this and researching about the industry too but I don’t ever want to give up exposing the truth. I won’t be silenced and I refused to be controlled but the elite. They will also die. No one is immortal. I wonder how they will face God for the heinous crimes
 
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The hidden and Dark truth of Boy Groups in the Entertainment Industry : One Direction and BTS (Part 1)

Boy groups are heavily promoted for their charisma, concepts and brother - like relationships. This marketing strategy has been a huge distributor in attracting predominantly young fans and creating worldwide sensational success. But these marketing strategies created by companies and above them the elite, not only affects brainwashed fans but participates in the deterioration of the boy group members. This is just the surface and takes into account actual and true stories. Behind the scenes, there is a high chance these slaves are tortured, groomed, and forced to do unimaginable rituals to maintain success and bring money and power to their companies and the elite.

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Boy groups are known and loved not just for their music but for their personalities which are praised to be genuine and attractive. However this is the complete opposite. These personas are created entirely by their management to fit a certain brand and to increase likeability of a group. Harry from One Direction was only 16 when he joined the group and was not only made to date women older than him, but was scouted for this persona of a sexual man and womaniser. Similar to Jimin who is branded the sexy or seductive member of BTS, this oversexualisation not only created members to lie about who they are and pressured them to fit a certain physical stereotype, but also heavily supports p***philia and dangers these members to sexual exploitation when they are minors. Jimin is known to be very insecure and when you have a management who controls your diet, what you wear etc it is no surprise. Zayn was known as the dark and mysterious one when he was the opposite in real life. His persona was met with heavy criticism from fans and encouraged racist and islamophobic remarks because he was “unfriendly” like the others. Both Suga and Zayn suffer from mental health and although this is coincidental, their personas thrive off their mental difficulties. Liam like RM was portrayed to be the daddy/responsible member and even behind cameras had to sort out group dynamics because his management forced him to. Liam speaks out about how this made him the “boring one” in front of fans and because of this gained less popularity. Louis changed his persona when initially he was seen as the funny clown of the group. However his aggressiveness and partying later in his one direction was exploited as his new persona and branding. Simon Cowell, the record producer of this band would privately talk and make Louis fly when this persona was “taken too far.” Louis himself says in a song lyric “playing someone I was heard I was supposed to be” In the case of V this is very similar as he also changed his persona from goofy to mature with no regards to how detrimental this could be to his mental health. This is not the only form of control. Companies basically control everything these groups do, from public appearances, what they wear, hair colour and what they eat. Liam himself states that he was never allowed to wear anything striped because that was Louis brand and he had no stop button in the band. He said that after award shows they would fly to another country and only had 2 weeks to record albums. Their stadium tour tickets were released before they even created albums and they were expected to have albums prepared. Zayn echoed his ex band mate by
Stating that he had no musical creativity and he was only allowed to write if there were 4 other songwriters. He also stated that he was woken up in the middle of the night to record an album. Similarly even though BTS thrive on being self producing artists, there are actually ghostwriters because these artists are given no creative freedom to do anything.

Anyways guys, hopefully I will talk about what else one direction have talked about tmrw because it’s late here lol and I’m tired. For part 2 I will talk about how this control impacted mental health of these groups and how due to this members suffer from eating disorders, self esteem issues and depression and suicidal issues . For Part 3
I will talk about groups under Lou Pearlman, how he sexually molested these boys and overworked them.
Also everything I wrote about the one d members is a 100% true and comes from their own mouths. Imagine all the other horrific stuff they’ve been through they can’t talk about. Ill link sources at the end of part 3 If you want to know more
 
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Guys i did a strange dream about bts...i don't know what to think..i was crying and i told to them emotional things but Suga was very cold and seemed to mocking me and at the end laughed at me...anyone of you had the same experience?What does it mean?
 

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Guys i did a strange dream about bts...i don't know what to think..i was crying and i told to them emotional things but Suga was very cold and seemed to mocking me and at the end laughed at me...anyone of you had the same experience?What does it mean?
Sometimes I get weird dreams like that. It's a sign of how they really are as a person and giving you insight, I hear they can go into your heads with music. When you disagree, they send bad spirits to your head. So maybe, their energy has passed through from their recent song.

I think we should all be careful with this, and listen with precaution. I do not like suga, because ever since 2019, his true persona has come through with the greed about money, etc. He dreams about pigs and that means tons of it, you can see through it.

I also once had a dream a year ago, Jkook had this black hood on, and he came straight from the occult.He said to me 'I am from the illuminati' I also had a bad dream about a few of them, where they would get really angry at something small. They'd turn into a dark persona.



The four pillars, Rm figure KAWS, Monkey see monkey do. This is where he stores his spells. :oops:
 
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Sometimes I get weird dreams like that. It's a sign of how they really are as a person and giving you insight, I hear they can go into your heads with music. When you disagree, they send bad spirits to your head. So maybe, their energy has passed through from their recent song.

I think we should all be careful with this, and listen with precaution. I do not like suga, because ever since 2019, his true persona has come through with the greed about money, etc. He dreams about pigs and that means tons of it, you can see through it.

I also once had a dream a year ago, Jkook had this black hood on, and he came straight from the occult.He said to me 'I am from the illuminati' I also had a bad dream about a few of them, where they would get really angry at something small. They'd turn into a dark persona.



The four pillars, Rm figure KAWS, Monkey see monkey do. This is where he stores his spells. :oops:
 

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Sometimes I get weird dreams like that. It's a sign of how they really are as a person and giving you insight, I hear they can go into your heads with music. When you disagree, they send bad spirits to your head. So maybe, their energy has passed through from their recent song.

I think we should all be careful with this, and listen with precaution. I do not like suga, because ever since 2019, his true persona has come through with the greed about money, etc. He dreams about pigs and that means tons of it, you can see through it.I don't know about Suga and i didn't listen his songs but i will search in this forum...

I also once had a dream a year ago, Jkook had this black hood on, and he came straight from the occult.He said to me 'I am from the illuminati' I also had a bad dream about a few of them, where they would get really angry at something small. They'd turn into a dark persona.



The four pillars, Rm figure KAWS, Monkey see monkey do. This is where he stores his spells. :oops:
They are wizards??Or it is Band pd to do these spells?Really i never did a dream about them...and it was very strong...i was with my friends and i was emotionally involved and i told them good things and Suga was so rude...i can't understand why i dreamed Suga because my bias was Taehyung.. i never had an affection for Suga...the statue is creepy i don't like it...
 
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They are wizards??Or it is Band pd to do these spells?Really i never did a dream about them...and it was very strong...i was with my friends and i was emotionally involved and i told them good things and Suga was so rude...i can't understand why i dreamed Suga because my bias was Taehyung.. i never had an affection for Suga...the statue is creepy i don't like it...
When I was on this thread a lot about 2 years ago I dreamt of V telling me to help him a lot. I always had these dreams where he would cry and say he hates his life. Then when I started to no feel as sorry for him I had one dream where he was moody. But when I stopped coming on this thread and forgot all about them I never had any dreams

I think it’s our subconscious putting these dreams in our heads because of the perceptions we already have of each person. If you’re always on this thread stating how evil V is it will be in your subconscious so you’re more likely to have a negative dream about him than a positive and vice verse. Dreams would be more realistic if none of us knew who BTS were and had a dream out of nowhere. These type of dreams are more reliable I think!
 
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When I was on this thread a lot about 2 years ago I dreamt of V telling me to help him a lot. I always had these dreams where he would cry and say he hates his life. Then when I started to no feel as sorry for him I had one dream where he was moody. But when I stopped coming on this thread and forgot all about them I never had any dreams

I think it’s our subconscious putting these dreams in our heads because of the perceptions we already have of each person. If you’re always on this thread stating how evil V is it will be in your subconscious so you’re more likely to have a negative dream about him than a positive and vice verse. Dreams would be more realistic if none of us knew who BTS were and had a dream out of nowhere. These type of dreams are more reliable I think!
I also believe that. I often dream about things I thought of that incorporates what happened in my day, or whatever I thought of as I was falling asleep, or whats been on my mind. Dreams come from God, Satan or ur own mind and I think some people read too much into BTS dreams not realizing its their own minds manufacturing them.
 

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They are wizards??Or it is Band pd to do these spells?Really i never did a dream about them...and it was very strong...i was with my friends and i was emotionally involved and i told them good things and Suga was so rude...i can't understand why i dreamed Suga because my bias was Taehyung.. i never had an affection for Suga...the statue is creepy i don't like it...
I believe it's all a ton of each I understand if suga was rude because I get negative energies off him, there are tons of bad things going on. One thing I noticed was that k00k saying ''bismillah'' I thought back to a few things. I believe he is going to another religion, but sometimes I hear these are said to go against one side of it all, the devil.

maybe it is somebody else, that we aren't putting all our attention in. I think they are making spells, because of their song crystal snow, I thought the song had nothing to do with crystals and that it reminded me of those used in rituals etc. I don't see how fans don't see them the way we do after all this. They surely all haven't been awoken, so I'm waiting for it all to collapse

I think JK is big with spells because when he was in brain washing phase, he had a sword which is used within the Wicca magic. I have also seen Vee with one of these similar tools in one of the concept photos and I very rarely see it, which is a bit too weird. From a young age, they were all in a circle of related occultists.
 

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The Hidden and Dark truth of Boy groups in the Entertainment Industry: One Direction and BTS (part 2)


Further control and manipulation

If the public appearance control and branding wasn’t enough, One Direction were sabotaged by their own management. Articles written to jeopardise one member were purposefully allowed to be written to gain media attention on the boys. Dating scandals were also fabricated by Syco records. Niall’s mic was cut off several times because he wasn’t fit for the brand at that time and there was unfair distribution and promotion between members because Certain members fit the agenda more. Like Niall and Louis, V and Jin are also highly mistreated by Bighit in many ways. From being cut out of pics and broadcasts, releasing less screen time of members and having little say in solo projects or lyrical lines in the group. However to stop these boys from speaking out, manipulation and brainwashing is needed. It’s a given that if you see you are being mistreated to speak out but members are bribed to stay in the company and be a good slave. In the case of V seeing his mistreatment was painful so to quieten him, Bighit gave him an acting opportunity in Hwarang, only so that he wouldn’t complain about mistreatment. Whenever a member is given these type of opportunities there are ulterior motives. Not only were their whole lives controlled by Simon, they were not allowed to leave and explore a country when they were on tour. Liam himself states “being by yourself in a country where you can’t go anywhere”. Their twitter accounts were handled by managers and sometimes managers wrote tweets members didn’t approve of . Similarly BTS are only allowed to go anywhere if they are accompanied by their managers/handlers. Bighit were praised for letting JK have his own GCF series when his films directly go into the companies revenue. Similarly his whole scandal with tattooing was only allowed by his company because they want to change his persona to an edgy American boy to fit With Hollywood. This is the type of agenda Bighit are reinforcing. Overworking is a huge factor in boy groups with members having little to no rest. At a very young age they are signing contacts with no idea who runs the industry and what exactly they’re getting into. From touring to making albums for years straight makes these boys money making robots.

The Damaging Effects
Because of this lifestyle, members of these groups develop mental issues. For example Liam turned to alcohol and became an addict Because of the stress and trauma he had to endure. He would drink and be drunk on stage but was able to hide it well because he was told to take epilepsy drugs to balance his highs and lows. These caused other side effects during interviews where he was sensitive to light and disoriented/confused. V smokes a lot which now looking back is a way of him coping with whatever stress the management have inflicted upon him. This is the same for Jimins drinking problems and Sugas mental health issues. He said the “level of loneliness nearly killed him” which is the same problem V and Jimin from BTS struggle with. In the Run era, when BTS weren’t as famous as now, Taehyung talked about not seeing friends for over 2 and a half years because of his work. This has been intensified as he is now in the biggest boy group in the world like one direction once were. Both Jimin and Zayn suffered from eating disorders. Zayn didn’t eat for 2 or 3 days straight because of his hectic schedule. He felt like this Was the only thing he had control of whilst he was in the band. Jimin never used to eat for 10 days straight for insecurity issues directed by Bighit for the start. With their CEO calling Jin fat to them being forced to maintain abs and a physique to attract fans, there is no surprise some members have these issues. Instead of helping and supporting members, companies force them to carry on whilst struggling in such a heightened atmosphere where the whole world watches your every move. Niall had a severe knee problem that Simon Cowell forced him to forget about as he was still needed to carry on with his job and Harry threw up multiple times from exhaustion. Bighit not only cause physical health issues they dramatise this on burn the stage to gain more money whilst members are collapsing from exhaustion.

Their Distaste for their CEO’s

Because BTS are still binded by contracts and probably under programming, they are unable to talk about their relationship with their boss Bang Sihyuk, but as one direction are free from Simon Cowell members have talked about feeling anxiety because of him. Although due to confidentiality and probably fear of their lives they haven’t said anything more, their body language when interacting with him show signs of anger and anxiety. They used typical coping mechanisms when they were around him like licking lips and touching their face to lessen the anxiety. They are clearly uncomfortable around him. Similarly as there aren’t any record of BTS speaking up against Bang PD apart from V on Weverse lol I decided to look at interactions where V “jokingly” says he would ignore him at debut whilst Suga says again “jokingly” the ceo lied to him about what the group will be. He never knew he had to dance because that was never part of the contract. There is a clip where RM eats with Bang PD and his expressions say it all. He fidgets and looks visibly nervous. When receiving awards with their boss they pretend to laugh and smile when you can see some of them are very nervous to be there.

That was part 2 - here are some sources you guys can check out if you’re interested! I hope this showed how bad this is and like I said this is literally just a prick. These ceos are most likely pedophiles and abusers but will never get caught because they are rich and powerful. I felt so sad and cried a bit writing this because this is so messed up. Honestly reading this made me feel so bad for them


- a video talking in more detail about what I talked about

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37833903/zayn-malik-reveals-he-had-eating-disorder-while-in-one-direction - Zayn talks about his eating disorder

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/liam-payne-alcohol-addiction-sober-therapy-one-direction-cheryl-bear-a9228926.html?amp - Liam talks about his alcohol addiction

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/im-lucky-to-be-here-liam-payne-opens-up-about-suicidal-thoughts-and-relationship-with-cheryl-11860279 - Liam talks about being lucky he’s alive and suicidal thoughts
 

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I believe it's all a ton of each I understand if suga was rude because I get negative energies off him, there are tons of bad things going on. One thing I noticed was that k00k saying ''bismillah'' I thought back to a few things. I believe he is going to another religion, but sometimes I hear these are said to go against one side of it all, the devil.

maybe it is somebody else, that we aren't putting all our attention in. I think they are making spells, because of their song crystal snow, I thought the song had nothing to do with crystals and that it reminded me of those used in rituals etc. I don't see how fans don't see them the way we do after all this. They surely all haven't been awoken, so I'm waiting for it all to collapse

I think JK is big with spells because when he was in brain washing phase, he had a sword which is used within the Wicca magic. I have also seen Vee with one of these similar tools in one of the concept photos and I very rarely see it, which is a bit too weird. From a young age, they were all in a circle of related occultists.
Oh yes i saw a video about crystals and i was shocked,they were used in a bad way...i don't know this song but i will listen because i want to understand...
I found photos about V...he was doing meditation and yoga...occultists do this practice.
 
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Break the silence is coming out soon. We will see what else their stupid company is going to come up with to sell this “brothers who will
Always be BTS” rhetoric. It’s getting so tiring and they look tired of promoting the same crap themselves. When Jin leaves they should just all have a break but Bang PD wants to milk them even more as he’s never satisfied.

I acc love Vs sarcasm lmao
 

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Break the silence is coming out soon. We will see what else their stupid company is going to come up with to sell this “brothers who will
Always be BTS” rhetoric. It’s getting so tiring and they look tired of promoting the same crap themselves. When Jin leaves they should just all have a break but Bang PD wants to milk them even more as he’s never satisfied.

I acc love Vs sarcasm lmao
They lookes pissed off and like they were doing something boring but it is work so they need to repeat these words and fake enthusiastic feelings
 
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I want to say that its so hard to keep secrets, how these people keep secrets of who they are?
They also lie about who they are
That vow of silence thing
They are victims of abuse, most likely mk. It shuts them up if they remember anything. They have a script. It’s literally so intense. If they make one move wrong. If they even try to say something they will be killed. Sulli tried it, so did Paul Walker and MJ. This industry is pure evil. They groom these celebs from a young age. It’s horrible. It becomes second nature for them to lie because if they don’t their fate is way worse
 
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But apart from these celebs the people who are sane and practice it willingly they surely have different psychology. I wonder how these people exist.there is a complete diversity. Im sometimes speachless
Ahh yess, there are two type of celebs. Those who are fully controlled and those who enjoy everything about what they’re doing. It’s very easy to see who’s who. In BTS even it’s so obvious to see which ones just go along because they have to and those who love every part of being a slave because it makes them famous. But mainly BTS are slaves. It’s artists like Beyoncé, Madonna, Adele, John legend who are not that controlled and don’t have to be overworked and are part of the high occulting services. Whilst people like JB, Britney, One Direction, Disney stars are all slaves
 
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