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BTS came on Good Morning Britain.... why why why why?? :( and they sang Harry Styles. Why would Good Morning Britain, a show that focuses on politics and social issues with a totally different audience think it was a good idea to bring a Kpop group on. First Monsta X now them.
After i heard that their Love yourself is studied on university and they will have a role about public health i am not surprised anymore lol
 

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After i heard that their Love yourself is studied on university and they will have a role about public health i am not surprised anymore lol
I just had a thought...what if they brought them into public health
So, ... if the microchip thing happens, they have bts the face of it and telling people to do it
And then the young fans will listen...
 

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Hello, everyone. Nice to meet y’all.

I have been lurking on this forum since two years now but never really felt a need to make an acc until now.

I have read all the messages and so far I’m really liking the fact that no insane Stan/army has invaded this forum/thread like they always do when someone dares to question bts and some of their problematic behavior/actions.

The reason why I made an acc was because I really wanted to talk about V and his latest behaviour/actions. As many already have noticed it here he seems to be over the group/idol life. There’s no light in his eyes anymore like in the past.

Especially after seeing this video of him singing along on Dynamite. If you compare his singing along with the other members , you can easily see that he puts in the least effort of being enthusiastic and singing/dancing like the others. You know it’s real when even Suga puts in more effort of being enthusiastic than V.

I know that most of the members, or atleast I suspect, don’t like Dynamite and the way , musically at least, they are going.

Dynamite and all the other songs that they have put out in the past couple years like ON, Idol, DNA, Boy with Luv and now Dynamite, are not the songs that made them famous and beloved with their fans. It was mostly the hip hop/RnB and even the Dark concepts like Wings that made them stand out musically and put them at the map. Not this heavily autotune/pop music.

What y’all think? Do y’all really think that he’s just done with idol life and want to go acting or in some other industry like many here have been suspected or that he is just done with the industry in general and want to be a farmer or something like that where there isn’t much pressure?
Video of him:
 

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Please scroll to 1:32-40 in the video that I posted above and notice his expressions/face. It looks very creepy almost as if he’s scared of something.

And I know that people have been mostly talking about Jimin’s changing looks through this era of Dynamite but to me V looks kinda different, especially in the video that I have posted. It kinda looks to me that he gained weight, which explains his fuller face. Or maybe it could be the blonde hair that really washed out his features and does nothing for his face.
 
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Hello, everyone. Nice to meet y’all.

I have been lurking on this forum since two years now but never really felt a need to make an acc until now.

I have read all the messages and so far I’m really liking the fact that no insane Stan/army has invaded this forum/thread like they always do when someone dares to question bts and some of their problematic behavior/actions.

The reason why I made an acc was because I really wanted to talk about V and his latest behaviour/actions. As many already have noticed it here he seems to be over the group/idol life. There’s no light in his eyes anymore like in the past.

Especially after seeing this video of him singing along on Dynamite. If you compare his singing along with the other members , you can easily see that he puts in the least effort of being enthusiastic and singing/dancing like the others. You know it’s real when even Suga puts in more effort of being enthusiastic than V.

I know that most of the members, or atleast I suspect, don’t like Dynamite and the way , musically at least, they are going.

Dynamite and all the other songs that they have put out in the past couple years like ON, Idol, DNA, Boy with Luv and now Dynamite, are not the songs that made them famous and beloved with their fans. It was mostly the hip hop/RnB and even the Dark concepts like Wings that made them stand out musically and put them at the map. Not this heavily autotune/pop music.

What y’all think? Do y’all really think that he’s just done with idol life and want to go acting or in some other industry like many here have been suspected or that he is just done with the industry in general and want to be a farmer or something like that where there isn’t much pressure?
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Welcome, Ahh yes V is the most interesting member for me haha. The others apart from J-Hope are pretty easy to decipher but he’s so mysterious. He was my bias so he was always the one I payed attention to but when he began to change I was so sad as a fan of him because to me it seemed like he was suffering from depression ( a lot of users here hated him so I began to question if he was really that innocent? To me he was the least satanic but my opinion has kind of changed)
The above video you sent, he does that expression at 1:32 because he falls and so he makes that face. But he also does the call me sign again here

I actually think V knows a lot about the occult compared to Jungkook and Jimin who are not innocent at all but under a lot of drugs. V is probably a moonchild and I think he is a practicing magician. If you look at the wings and coming of age storyline he is the most evil. However I think this whole lifestyle was forced upon him. I don’t think he ever had a passion to be part of BTS. He seems to have a very different vibe... he dresses in a lot of vintage clothes and has an old style. He seems to be a very spiritual and sensitive person. That’s why when he lost people in his life you could see how different he became. I think Bighit brought him in thinking he’d be perfect for their agenda as he’s part of an occult family and that’s why they groomed him and hid him before debut. He I think was the leader behind the scenes of the group because of this reason but now I don’t think his heart is in BTS. I think he wants to get away from Bighit ASAP but because he is a very popular member Bighit can’t let him leave. Giving him acting roles and allowing him to be friends with Bogum was a way to compromise with him but also make sure his actor friends kept him in check. I think he’s tired of being a slave and that’s why he’s become sarcastic. He’s also tired of putting on the goofy, funny extroverted Tae persona so he just doesn’t do it. His relationship with his members seems very fragile too. I think he has a lot of beef with jk and jm. I think they are very jealous of him. I think he would still stay in the industry as an actor because I still believe he loves the rich and famous life (maybe : idk lol)

He seems way more evil now. He’s done something horrible and he knows it. It’s so obvious he’s living with something guilt - tripping/traumatic
 

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Also I want to talk about the members and rumors on their sexuality/relationships and how it affects skinship in the group.

As someone who really loves reading and hearing about tea aka gossip on celebrities, politicians etc. I frequently visit gossip forums and one thing that has stood out to me is that the rumors on bt$ and their alleged relationships/sexualities have been quite consistent in the past 3-4 years before Kpop went ‘mainstream’ and we had to deal with all these immature 13-years old stans attacking you for simply stating something about their fav.

The one thing that really stood out to me is how JK doesn’t have much experience with dating women and had one long term relationship with a woman before breaking up with to focus on bT$.

What has this to do with his sexuality and his relationships with fellow members? Well one very reliable rumor is that Jk started to only hang out with the other members especially J1m.in. Rumor is that he started to develop a crush on J1min.

I’m not someone who believes all rumors just because I’m hungry for tea but this sounds believable to me only because their actions look too real to be only considered skinship/friends. It doesn’t look like acting to me or playing it up for the camera. While I have never believed the popular ship of V x Jk and was thus never surprised when the former went on W£Verse to put an end on this ship.

Also the consistent rumors are also that both V and J1min are the players of this group and have dated a lot and I also believe this rumor especially on the latter because he really loves flirting on camera and to me it also looks very natural and not playing it up for the camera. One of the most persistent rumor on J1min is at he dated a female idol from a very popular girl group (Tw1ce) and rumor is that he did something very bad and that’s why the female idol can’t stand him and if you look at the interactions of them together, it looks like she always ignores him and not even acknowledging him.

Also on the allegedly sexualities of the other members, I have never heard or read of bi/gay rumors on RM and H0bi and I never had any suspicion that they both swing that way so I also believe the rumors of them being straight. Matter of fact one of the very popular and persistent rumor is that RM is another fuckboy with a preference for foreign women and who loves to do one night stand/quick relationships as opposed to long term relationships.

While H0bi , Atleast the tea is that he’s very serious when it comes to a relationship and only wants something serious/stable and I also believe this cause he gives me serious vibes only.

And $uga, while this is the most veritable one with actual receipts from his real snapchat before deleting it after being leaked. There’s still screenshots of them so if I can find it I will post it. Basically he bragged on his SC that he loves getting sex and that he and his then gf (with whom be broke up but there was a scandal Involving this ex gf of him because she regularly posted anti Japan things and the Japanese fans got wind of it) were having lot of sex. His ex gf posted pictures of them on her IG so that’s why I for 100% know that this rumor is real. There’s some screenshot of her IG and her pictures with $uga so if I can find it, I will post it.

I only post this because one of the main posts is their pro LGBT stance. My humble opinion is that this is another gimmick with them ‘supporting’ LGBT to gain more mainstream acceptance while wanting nothing to do with actual LGBT people/causes. Afterall SK is a homophobic country and Most people don’t really understand it and find it unnatural as many believe the purpose of life is having children.

Matter of fact, I remember reading that Bt$ were allegedly not happy on their collobaration with H@lsey, cause they were worried what SK would think of them performing with an bisexual woman.

Also the only members I really Suspect of being bi/gay are $uga and Jk.
 

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Welcome, Ahh yes V is the most interesting member for me haha. The others apart from J-Hope are pretty easy to decipher but he’s so mysterious. He was my bias so he was always the one I payed attention to but when he began to change I was so sad as a fan of him because to me it seemed like he was suffering from depression ( a lot of users here hated him so I began to question if he was really that innocent? To me he was the least satanic but my opinion has kind of changed)
The above video you sent, he does that expression at 1:32 because he falls and so he makes that face. But he also does the call me sign again here

I actually think V knows a lot about the occult compared to Jungkook and Jimin who are not innocent at all but under a lot of drugs. V is probably a moonchild and I think he is a practicing magician. If you look at the wings and coming of age storyline he is the most evil. However I think this whole lifestyle was forced upon him. I don’t think he ever had a passion to be part of BTS. He seems to have a very different vibe... he dresses in a lot of vintage clothes and has an old style. He seems to be a very spiritual and sensitive person. That’s why when he lost people in his life you could see how different he became. I think Bighit brought him in thinking he’d be perfect for their agenda as he’s part of an occult family and that’s why they groomed him and hid him before debut. He I think was the leader behind the scenes of the group because of this reason but now I don’t think his heart is in BTS. I think he wants to get away from Bighit ASAP but because he is a very popular member Bighit can’t let him leave. Giving him acting roles and allowing him to be friends with Bogum was a way to compromise with him but also make sure his actor friends kept him in check. I think he’s tired of being a slave and that’s why he’s become sarcastic. He’s also tired of putting on the goofy, funny extroverted Tae persona so he just doesn’t do it. His relationship with his members seems very fragile too. I think he has a lot of beef with jk and jm. I think they are very jealous of him. I think he would still stay in the industry as an actor because I still believe he loves the rich and famous life (maybe : idk lol)

He seems way more evil now. He’s done something horrible and he knows it. It’s so obvious he’s living with something guilt - tripping/traumatic
Thank you so much for this interesting post and observation. I know that many here and on other platforums don’t like him cause they think that the ‘new’ him is arrogant and have become too ‘sassy’. I really like how he puts delusional fans/army’s in their place regarding the popular Taekook ship and kindly reminding them that everything happens in their head an not in real life. Yes, he actually said this on WeVerse and got lots of hate comments on it.

What’s the reason why you think that Jk and J1min hate him? I have never believed Taekook and liked his relationships/friendships with other members the most like Jin and Jhope.

I also think compared to Taekook, J1min and JK’s Ra/friendship is more natural and not forced unlike Taekook.
 
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Omg link pls!


Thank you so much for this interesting post and observation. I know that many here and on other platforums don’t like him cause they think that the ‘new’ him is arrogant and have become too ‘sassy’. I really like how he puts delusional fans/army’s in their place regarding the popular Taekook ship and kindly reminding them that everything happens in their head an not in real life. Yes, he actually said this on WeVerse and got lots of hate comments on it.

What’s the reason why you think that Jk and J1min hate him? I have never believed Taekook and liked his relationships/friendships with other members the most like Jin and Jhope.

I also think compared to Taekook, J1min and JK’s Ra/friendship is more natural and not forced unlike Taekook.
Yh haha a lot of people think he’s evil here too... even worse than Namjoon and Yoongi - can you believe this. Worse than one eye creepy guy :0 To me he’s pretty stupid and irresponsible but that’s a topic for another day

I was a huge Vmin fan as Jimin was my bias wrecker and I loved them both so much (not as a shipper but I loved their friendship) and at first it was very genuine. They seemed like the best of friends really but now since around 2018, they just seem so forced when they’re together or interact. This whole soulmate facade is a bunch of crap! If you watch them, you can see in the expressions that they don’t like each other. They don’t make eye contact often, and their expressions are very off putting when they’re together. Look at how they interact here. You can feel the tension. I’ve rarely seen a genuine moment between them since 2018. Same with Jk and Tae. Can’t stand each other too but I feel like Tae hates jimin more than he hates jk lol. But again, a lot of tension between them. Whatever happened I think happened between jk and V and jm may have taken jks side.. idk lol I’m not an expert in their weird relationships. Yh I think V has the best relationship with RM tbh. But even then not so much. He seems very excluded from the group dynamic and doesn’t behave the same with them. He’s friendly with the rest like co workers but he’s got something going on with his maknae buddies
 
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Decoding Bts On, christian version. I have a degree in art and as a painter I have to study religious, christian art as well, because a good part of painting and sculpture has a christian subject. And doing art at a professional level I can see symbols and understand them even this symbols are not so obvious for the rest of fans. So this is my part of decodind the symbols. First of all we see the vexillium, that was a flag used by roman army, in the first place but with the time passing by it became a religious flag, used especialy by Christian Roman emperor Constantine I, who replaced the usual spear point with the "Chi-Rho" symbol, meaning Jesus Chist. And related to this, also the conch used by Jookook is a vexillium conch, a snails, snails that are predatory and venomous. So they want to say that on the battlefield, a christian battle have occured, who left many victims. Also in the battle a dove was killed with a hawk's feather in the arrow's nock. The dove is reffering to christians and the hawk to the pagans, the fighters against the God. It may be reffering to the Holy Spirit as well. Next we see Joonkook with a thorn crown around his wrists, like handcuffs. They want to say that some people might find christian religion enslaving, not giving them absolute freedom but they want this freedom to be against all the christian values. Joonkook is running away from Jesus Chirst and arrive to a river, probabli someting similar to Jordan River, but I think it is the Styx, the river from Hell. So Joonkook want to escape from Jesus Chist, so he baptized himself in the river of hell, the river of absolute freedom. The vexillium conch also represent divination, sorcery, fortune teller and it is a witchcraft item used in wicca. So some people will say that the wicca is the new religion that sould spread around the world.The part with clown and drums is really creapy, could it mean human object of entertaining, yes it could probably. Also another religious scene is when V is crucified alongside a thorn bushes refering also to Jesus Crist but V crucification is on the ground meaning that without Jesus Christ we are slaves of the clay, incapable of elevation. Also in the bushes there are white and black feathers meaning that each of us is surveiled, is guided by guardian angel or by the demon, and it is all the time a fight between the angel and the demon, to whom to win over the body and especially the soul of the human. Next is the Ark of Noah but instead of a dove we see a parrot, who is used as a evil totem. It mean that at the end of the world the dove will be switced with the parrot, the people will chose Satan instead of Jesus Christ. Also we see that are animal, like horse, zebra, elephant, without a pair. In the end we see the vexillium, like giant cloths, that mean that the war will begin. Also in the end is the vexilllium conch, meaning the wicca, the witchcraft and the sorcery.
Wowee thanks for this analysis!!! Very interesting indeed. And I actually see the truth in it.
 
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Hello, everyone. Nice to meet y’all.

I have been lurking on this forum since two years now but never really felt a need to make an acc until now.

I have read all the messages and so far I’m really liking the fact that no insane Stan/army has invaded this forum/thread like they always do when someone dares to question bts and some of their problematic behavior/actions.

The reason why I made an acc was because I really wanted to talk about V and his latest behaviour/actions. As many already have noticed it here he seems to be over the group/idol life. There’s no light in his eyes anymore like in the past.

Especially after seeing this video of him singing along on Dynamite. If you compare his singing along with the other members , you can easily see that he puts in the least effort of being enthusiastic and singing/dancing like the others. You know it’s real when even Suga puts in more effort of being enthusiastic than V.

I know that most of the members, or atleast I suspect, don’t like Dynamite and the way , musically at least, they are going.

Dynamite and all the other songs that they have put out in the past couple years like ON, Idol, DNA, Boy with Luv and now Dynamite, are not the songs that made them famous and beloved with their fans. It was mostly the hip hop/RnB and even the Dark concepts like Wings that made them stand out musically and put them at the map. Not this heavily autotune/pop music.

What y’all think? Do y’all really think that he’s just done with idol life and want to go acting or in some other industry like many here have been suspected or that he is just done with the industry in general and want to be a farmer or something like that where there isn’t much pressure?
Video of him:
Hellloooooo New Poster :)
Firstly I think there is something wrong with Taes eye, is it me or does anyone else noticed his eye does that weird popping thing it always does but here its very slight?

Also u can feel his energy, as I always say energy is emitted through screens as well and he looks like hes doing it because he HAS to though it seems he has no interest in it at all and looks like he would prefer to not be there at all
 
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Please scroll to 1:32-40 in the video that I posted above and notice his expressions/face. It looks very creepy almost as if he’s scared of something.

And I know that people have been mostly talking about Jimin’s changing looks through this era of Dynamite but to me V looks kinda different, especially in the video that I have posted. It kinda looks to me that he gained weight, which explains his fuller face. Or maybe it could be the blonde hair that really washed out his features and does nothing for his face.
Ya I see what ur talking about . He does look scared or even just being forced. I dont know what to make of it. Iv said in my previous posts also that Tae looks very different to me these days. In the dynamite video his jaw seemed really big in some scenes and very square which looked very odd to me. Maybe hes over all this witch craft shit and hates idol life
 
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Yh haha a lot of people think he’s evil here too... even worse than Namjoon and Yoongi - can you believe this. Worse than one eye creepy guy :0 To me he’s pretty stupid and irresponsible but that’s a topic for another day

I was a huge Vmin fan as Jimin was my bias wrecker and I loved them both so much (not as a shipper but I loved their friendship) and at first it was very genuine. They seemed like the best of friends really but now since around 2018, they just seem so forced when they’re together or interact. This whole soulmate facade is a bunch of crap! If you watch them, you can see in the expressions that they don’t like each other. They don’t make eye contact often, and their expressions are very off putting when they’re together. Look at how they interact here. You can feel the tension. I’ve rarely seen a genuine moment between them since 2018. Same with Jk and Tae. Can’t stand each other too but I feel like Tae hates jimin more than he hates jk lol. But again, a lot of tension between them. Whatever happened I think happened between jk and V and jm may have taken jks side.. idk lol I’m not an expert in their weird relationships. Yh I think V has the best relationship with RM tbh. But even then not so much. He seems very excluded from the group dynamic and doesn’t behave the same with them. He’s friendly with the rest like co workers but he’s got something going on with his maknae buddies
Thank you for link. How forced was Tae when he said army we miss u soooo much lol he said it then sat back and switched off. He really looks over all this crap. Also none of them seemed that enthusiastic?
 

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Yh haha a lot of people think he’s evil here too... even worse than Namjoon and Yoongi - can you believe this. Worse than one eye creepy guy :0 To me he’s pretty stupid and irresponsible but that’s a topic for another day

I was a huge Vmin fan as Jimin was my bias wrecker and I loved them both so much (not as a shipper but I loved their friendship) and at first it was very genuine. They seemed like the best of friends really but now since around 2018, they just seem so forced when they’re together or interact. This whole soulmate facade is a bunch of crap! If you watch them, you can see in the expressions that they don’t like each other. They don’t make eye contact often, and their expressions are very off putting when they’re together. Look at how they interact here. You can feel the tension. I’ve rarely seen a genuine moment between them since 2018. Same with Jk and Tae. Can’t stand each other too but I feel like Tae hates jimin more than he hates jk lol. But again, a lot of tension between them. Whatever happened I think happened between jk and V and jm may have taken jks side.. idk lol I’m not an expert in their weird relationships. Yh I think V has the best relationship with RM tbh. But even then not so much. He seems very excluded from the group dynamic and doesn’t behave the same with them. He’s friendly with the rest like co workers but he’s got something going on with his maknae buddies
Yeah he regularly gets excluded from the group and BH. Matter of fact there was some scandal on WeVerse where RM posted a pic of all members except V at the Grammy’s and V posted : where am I/why aren’t I on the pic?

I think it’s bizarre why he is getting mistreated by the group and BH while he’s one of the most famous members in the whole group and one of the main reasons why people love them, because his visuals and mature voice was one thing that really attracted me to him and ultimately the whole group.

I also read that he regularly smokes and drinkes. Probably because of the stress.

What do you think of him and Jhope? Is the latter serious with being friends to V or is everything to him only professional?
 

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Yh haha a lot of people think he’s evil here too... even worse than Namjoon and Yoongi - can you believe this. Worse than one eye creepy guy :0 To me he’s pretty stupid and irresponsible but that’s a topic for another day

I was a huge Vmin fan as Jimin was my bias wrecker and I loved them both so much (not as a shipper but I loved their friendship) and at first it was very genuine. They seemed like the best of friends really but now since around 2018, they just seem so forced when they’re together or interact. This whole soulmate facade is a bunch of crap! If you watch them, you can see in the expressions that they don’t like each other. They don’t make eye contact often, and their expressions are very off putting when they’re together. Look at how they interact here. You can feel the tension. I’ve rarely seen a genuine moment between them since 2018. Same with Jk and Tae. Can’t stand each other too but I feel like Tae hates jimin more than he hates jk lol. But again, a lot of tension between them. Whatever happened I think happened between jk and V and jm may have taken jks side.. idk lol I’m not an expert in their weird relationships. Yh I think V has the best relationship with RM tbh. But even then not so much. He seems very excluded from the group dynamic and doesn’t behave the same with them. He’s friendly with the rest like co workers but he’s got something going on with his maknae buddies
Jimin and V doesn't seems a real friendship...no eye contact...it seems they are forced to be together but they can't wait that this moment ends...there are problems with them it's obviously
 
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Yeah he regularly gets excluded from the group and BH. Matter of fact there was some scandal on WeVerse where RM posted a pic of all members except V at the Grammy’s and V posted : where am I/why aren’t I on the pic?

I think it’s bizarre why he is getting mistreated by the group and BH while he’s one of the most famous members in the whole group and one of the main reasons why people love them, because his visuals and mature voice was one thing that really attracted me to him and ultimately the whole group.

I also read that he regularly smokes and drinkes. Probably because of the stress.

What do you think of him and Jhope? Is the latter serious with being friends to V or is everything to him only professional?
Jimin and V doesn't seems a real friendship...no eye contact...it seems they are forced to be together but they can't wait that this moment ends...there are problems with them it's obviously
Yes you guys are right... I’m glad I’m not the only one. I’m actually planning a post about the “Dark side of Boy Groups” to write here and even though I will talk about one direction, backstreet boys, NSYNC etc the reality is the same as what BTS are going through... I’ll talk about V and his smoking as well as Jimin and other members drinking problems in that post

As for J-Hope and V, apart from researching for this thread I don’t keep up with BTS so it’s hard to pinpoint how every member interacts with the other. When I was a fan they all seemed pretty close but things have changed since then but I’ll look through some vids and give my opinion. Honestly from the recent vids I’ve seen of them only V and Rm seem to have an ok relationship. You can dm me privately if you want to talk in more detail
 

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Yeah he regularly gets excluded from the group and BH. Matter of fact there was some scandal on WeVerse where RM posted a pic of all members except V at the Grammy’s and V posted : where am I/why aren’t I on the pic?

I think it’s bizarre why he is getting mistreated by the group and BH while he’s one of the most famous members in the whole group and one of the main reasons why people love them, because his visuals and mature voice was one thing that really attracted me to him and ultimately the whole group.

I also read that he regularly smokes and drinkes. Probably because of the stress.

What do you think of him and Jhope? Is the latter serious with being friends to V or is everything to him only professional?
When V said "we miss you soooo much" this part is very creepy....also he didn't sang with the others....J hope talked about Dynamite in a good way and said it is a songs good but he did masonic sign(the cutting throat)...and V tone when he talks to Armys seems like someone disappointed and who wants to hide his real feeling
 

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Yes you guys are right... I’m glad I’m not the only one. I’m actually planning a post about the “Dark side of Boy Groups” to write here and even though I will talk about one direction, backstreet boys, NSYNC etc the reality is the same as what BTS are going through... I’ll talk about V and his smoking as well as Jimin and other members drinking problems in that post

As for J-Hope and V, apart from researching for this thread I don’t keep up with BTS so it’s hard to pinpoint how every member interacts with the other. When I was a fan they all seemed pretty close but things have changed since then but I’ll look through some vids and give my opinion. Honestly from the recent vids I’ve seen of them only V and Rm seem to have an ok relationship. You can dm me privately if you want to talk in more detail
Yes please it will be interesting and useful to understand other groups situations because bts seemed really united and friends..but after seeing these posts and the last videos i really doubt about it...also V and Jimin friendship after watching Festa video seems fake...
 
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