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This art project is called "Butterfly" (mk ultra) . Sug@'s photo has those obvious satanic signs in the background and the route 66 logo. They aren't hiding it at all, it's just that people don't want to listen. Someone pointed out their satanic references, in the comments. Also, Jin wears badges that are related with the masonic floor and the Star of David. There is a smiley face next to J00n which is a p*dophile symbol. I am so disappointed, especially with Sug@, cause he was my bias and I regarded him as the only idol who was truly genuine and had no fear of expressing himself. He also had a real passion in music/rapping and I believe that he hated being in a "flowery" pop band, especially now that their concepts are leaning toward a softer sound. So, what happened to him? I can't see him enjoying their current genre, yet he keeps on putting up a false image, pretending to be someone he is not. I know he is greedy and has never hided it but he really wanted to be taken seriously as an artist - more than anyone else among them- but he literally sacrificed his passion, for some easy money, I don't get him. What do you guys think about him? I am very confused with his behavior.
 






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I am so disappointed, especially with Sug@, cause he was my bias and I regarded him as the only idol who was truly genuine and had no fear of expressing himself. He also had a real passion in music/rapping and I believe that he hated being in a "flowery" pop band, especially now that their concepts are leaning toward a softer sound. So, what happened to him? I can't see him enjoying their current genre, yet he keeps on putting up a false image, pretending to be someone he is not. I know he is greedy and has never hided it but he really wanted to be taken seriously as an artist - more than anyone else among them- but he literally sacrificed his passion, for some easy money, I don't get him. What do you guys think about him? I am very confused with his behavior.
I posted about Benzino a few pages ago
He made it clear that in order to debut in BT$ you had to do whatever Bang PD tells you, including having plastic surgery

For me, both RM and SG sold out long ago
Maybe for RM was easier but if you look at SG current looks, he is playing the game just like the others
SG is very greedy in all his songs he always talked about money, wanting the fame, bragging about billboard

I think his love for fame is bigger than his love for music
 






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This comment says it all, I'm so glad that more people are finally waking up to the truth.
very true. I noticed this especially with RM

The first time they went to grammys he went on stage and said " thank you to our fans to make our wish come true, and we will be back"
it was very out of place because they were presenting an award for other person




and with their recent tweets about concerts is the same "I want concert", "I want grammy nomination", "I want this and that"
But I think it has to do with the law of atraction too...speaking it into existence
 






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I am so sorry for the events the occurred in your life, I can't even begin to imagine what you must have gone through and the wounds that have been left.

You are right, I am retracting my previous statement. If I think even about recent events - England is now forcing not just homosexual sexual education on children, as a transformation tool into becoming gay, but worse, "transsexual" sex education, although it's a whole bullshit calling it transsexual. It's gender dysphoria, a mental disease. So they are manipulating children into becoming mentally disabled and encouraging them into early sexual activities. The government. Same in the US.

Regarding Iron, I have searched on the internet, admittedly not for a long time, couldn't find anything. I believe it fully, this is only to show how things get scraped from the internet.
I did found people remembering his interview on allkpop, posting no 167
The member points out to the fact that all of them had surgery, with the possible exception of Taehyung, which is obvious just a case of the ugly duck turned pretty. It happens very often with boys, very often vice versa as well. I kinda have the feeling that Bang PD let Taehyung on purpose without plastic surgery probably he thought he would get uglier.
No don't feel sorry. I'm fine. I've already gotten past it. When I recount these events from my past it's not out of sadness or to garner pity. I've worked through it so I only use it for context. The fact I can talk about it so frankly on here means the wounds have healed. But thanks for the kindness.

Also the current events in the UK make me so freaking mad. I suggest anyone who wants to know more about trans stuff following a youtuber called "Blaire White". I'm tired of the trans community trying to push the false narrative of "gender euphoria" which is basically just being a tomboy/girly-guy. Gender euphoria is not a medical concept, it's just a concept created to push an agenda and spare people's feelings. It's bullshit. And now they're also encouraging young kids to get transitions instead of waiting it out to see if it's just a phase or them confusing liking opposite sex things with being a different gender. Children shouldn't be making decisions at that age. My opinion is that you absolutely should not undergo transitions if you are not feeling gender DYsphoria and I feel like every person and child who claims to be trans should get a brain scan to affirm this (to protect the kids with psycho parents mainly, but I'd rather kids just be banned completely from being allowed to transition). Because even neuroscientists have noticed differences in the brains of trans people and non-trans which just proves that it's a mental issue, the same way people with depression, autism, schizophrenia, etc have different brains than neurotypical brains. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling transgenderism a mental disorder but people don't want to because it doesn't sound PC enough. I was talking to someone online who suffers gender dysphoria and they said it's like having a tic (is that how you spell it? like tourettes syndrome basically). Like a nagging, unshakeable feeling everytime you look in a mirror that something is wrong, paired with extreme dysphoria. I'm sorry but if that isn't the definition mental illness, I don't know wtf is. rant over, lol.

I really wish I could go back and find the Iron posts on this forum. Do any OGs know roughly which page? There's too many :( I might end up rereading the entire thread over next month anyways, I'll try find it then
 






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No don't feel sorry. I'm fine. I've already gotten past it. When I recount these events from my past it's not out of sadness or to garner pity. I've worked through it so I only use it for context. The fact I can talk about it so frankly on here means the wounds have healed. But thanks for the kindness.

Also the current events in the UK make me so freaking mad. I suggest anyone who wants to know more about trans stuff following a youtuber called "Blaire White". I'm tired of the trans community trying to push the false narrative of "gender euphoria" which is basically just being a tomboy/girly-guy. Gender euphoria is not a medical concept, it's just a concept created to push an agenda and spare people's feelings. It's bullshit. And now they're also encouraging young kids to get transitions instead of waiting it out to see if it's just a phase or them confusing liking opposite sex things with being a different gender. Children shouldn't be making decisions at that age. My opinion is that you absolutely should not undergo transitions if you are not feeling gender DYsphoria and I feel like every person and child who claims to be trans should get a brain scan to affirm this (to protect the kids with psycho parents mainly, but I'd rather kids just be banned completely from being allowed to transition). Because even neuroscientists have noticed differences in the brains of trans people and non-trans which just proves that it's a mental issue, the same way people with depression, autism, schizophrenia, etc have different brains than neurotypical brains. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling transgenderism a mental disorder but people don't want to because it doesn't sound PC enough. I was talking to someone online who suffers gender dysphoria and they said it's like having a tic (is that how you spell it? like tourettes syndrome basically). Like a nagging, unshakeable feeling everytime you look in a mirror that something is wrong, paired with extreme dysphoria. I'm sorry but if that isn't the definition mental illness, I don't know wtf is. rant over, lol.

I really wish I could go back and find the Iron posts on this forum. Do any OGs know roughly which page? There's too many :( I might end up rereading the entire thread over next month anyways, I'll try find it then
gosh i totally forgot which page, but for all i know is that he could be one of RM's underground rapper friends who got invited to join bigshit along with him, basically RM had an underground rapper group (i think it consists 4 or 5 members?) and they got invited by bang to join bigshit, but most of them disagree, leaving only RM to accept bang's offer maybe Iron was one of them. or he could accepted bang's offer and is the rumoured 8th member of btshit, but left during trainees because of the rules and contracts, he didnt sign that contract for a reason, and we all know why.

theres also this other guy who also had the same issue, i forgot his name but he made a diss track about bigshit and RM (im not sure about the RM diss track, my memories sometimes are not reliable haha) and i forgot the guy's name.

is anyone ever gonna mention supr3me boy? he was literally in ever song btshit composed but now he is gone? we dont see his name writing and composing the song everywhere, whatever happened to him? for all i know, he is the 8th member of btshit.
 






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I posted about Benzino a few pages ago
He made it clear that in order to debut in BT$ you had to do whatever Bang PD tells you, including having plastic surgery

For me, both RM and SG sold out long ago
Maybe for RM was easier but if you look at SG current looks, he is playing the game just like the others
SG is very greedy in all his songs he always talked about money, wanting the fame, bragging about billboard

I think his love for fame is bigger than his love for music
Yeah, you are completely right, Sug@ was very upfront with his love for money,it's just I tend to think that if he could become rich while going the underground route, he would have done it instead of putting up with this fake persona and being part of a group that goes against his "morality" in terms of music. I don't understand his current role in the band when it comes to the dark occult, it seems like Vee is in the high ranks, J00n follows next but where does he stand himself? In the new mv he is being portrayed as a satanic leader, I believe that he is pretty materialistic, shallow and non-spiritual so he maybe obeys the rules just for the money as you mentioned, unlike Vee and J00n who seem to really be under the misconception that they are on their way to some sort of spiritual ascension in the meantime.


gosh i totally forgot which page, but for all i know is that he could be one of RM's underground rapper friends who got invited to join bigshit along with him, basically RM had an underground rapper group (i think it consists 4 or 5 members?) and they got invited by bang to join bigshit, but most of them disagree, leaving only RM to accept bang's offer maybe Iron was one of them. or he could accepted bang's offer and is the rumoured 8th member of btshit, but left during trainees because of the rules and contracts, he didnt sign that contract for a reason, and we all know why.

theres also this other guy who also had the same issue, i forgot his name but he made a diss track about bigshit and RM (im not sure about the RM diss track, my memories sometimes are not reliable haha) and i forgot the guy's name.

is anyone ever gonna mention supr3me boy? he was literally in ever song btshit composed but now he is gone? we dont see his name writing and composing the song everywhere, whatever happened to him? for all i know, he is the 8th member of btshit.
That group of their friends is way too problematic. They were involved in drug scandals, not to mention that it was revealed that Iron beat up his girlfriend. Also, Supr3me Boi took part in a song by another member of the group that basically was a r*pe fantasy. These people hang out with Bt€ and that contradicts their contrived persona.In my country there is a saying that goes" Show me your friends so that I can tell you who you really are". This is not a good look for them but it goes to show you how much fans can overlook in order to keep safe the image they have of them on their minds.
 






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No don't feel sorry. I'm fine. I've already gotten past it. When I recount these events from my past it's not out of sadness or to garner pity. I've worked through it so I only use it for context. The fact I can talk about it so frankly on here means the wounds have healed. But thanks for the kindness.

Also the current events in the UK make me so freaking mad. I suggest anyone who wants to know more about trans stuff following a youtuber called "Blaire White". I'm tired of the trans community trying to push the false narrative of "gender euphoria" which is basically just being a tomboy/girly-guy. Gender euphoria is not a medical concept, it's just a concept created to push an agenda and spare people's feelings. It's bullshit. And now they're also encouraging young kids to get transitions instead of waiting it out to see if it's just a phase or them confusing liking opposite sex things with being a different gender. Children shouldn't be making decisions at that age. My opinion is that you absolutely should not undergo transitions if you are not feeling gender DYsphoria and I feel like every person and child who claims to be trans should get a brain scan to affirm this (to protect the kids with psycho parents mainly, but I'd rather kids just be banned completely from being allowed to transition). Because even neuroscientists have noticed differences in the brains of trans people and non-trans which just proves that it's a mental issue, the same way people with depression, autism, schizophrenia, etc have different brains than neurotypical brains. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling transgenderism a mental disorder but people don't want to because it doesn't sound PC enough. I was talking to someone online who suffers gender dysphoria and they said it's like having a tic (is that how you spell it? like tourettes syndrome basically). Like a nagging, unshakeable feeling everytime you look in a mirror that something is wrong, paired with extreme dysphoria. I'm sorry but if that isn't the definition mental illness, I don't know wtf is. rant over, lol.

I really wish I could go back and find the Iron posts on this forum. Do any OGs know roughly which page? There's too many :( I might end up rereading the entire thread over next month anyways, I'll try find it then
I really like Blaire White, she makes so many points!! I hate when people mistake social constructed behaviors with being trans. All people have a feminine and a masculine side. Those in power strive to confuse kids that don't specifically fall under a stereotypical boys=blue girls=pink category that are, in fact, trans. Sadly, this thing has also affected many women globally, due to misogynism and patriarchy. Many of them want to discard any sign of their femininity bc they unconsciously believe that this is the only way for them to be respected and recognized as a human being, there are many articles about this issue,so I believe that it's not only a medical condition but a psychological condition too, at least in some cases.
I know the channel. But still...it’s a mental disease. Being used as a currency to dig deeper into the homosexual and pedophiliac agenda.
A mental disease affecting gay people, which very often is romanticized.
First step into recovery- admitting that you have an issue. When you know that you are suffering from gender dysphoria, you know that it’s not real, you understand the problematic. You want to get better. By transforming yourself, even with “only” surgical procedures not affecting genitalia, taking hormones and all sorts of medicine, it’s not a progress. It’s doing more harm to the condition while the government, doctors, Pharma Companies are making millions.
People like BTS are promoting all of that. Wearing woman’s clothing, make up, getting waves, girly hairstyle. Just a little example. This whole - no more genders, no age limit to sexual contact.
An invitation to lots of bad and perverted things starting now as young as 3.
The thing is that many trans people aren't even gay to begin with, that is what baffles me. Also, the majority of gay people hate in reality that trans people are being included in their community because their beliefs are, many times, contradictory. They also made the community to be all about themselves now . I have plenty of friends who are gay and even though I'm straight, I consider myself bi-romantic, so I am kinda associated with the gay community in a way. Tbh, I sometimes feel sorry for the trans people as I presume that they know about all the possible implications - and studies have shown that that excessive amount of hormones can result in serious illnesses in the long run- but because of their mental condition, they are willing to put their health at great risk.
 






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Wow, its amazing how this forum took a differrent turn in a few days.

So I'm gonna just shove in a small tiny opinion here.

I searched up this forum to find out more about the evil in kpop, I knew kpop was satanic before getting into it but....due to that 'youtuber' i got sucked into it. The forum was very informative and interesting in the begging since I've never found a page or video that discussed the bad side of kpop or bts. And I loved that there was freedom of speech without criticism. Although when it came to their sexuality part....and all that stuff being discussed....it grossed me out. A lot!!! That ish left a scar in me -_-

I don't follow up on the trans kpop pages mainly cause it confuses me when I see normal looking people, when a women seems more masculine I have that mentality that their probably trans or something and I dont like that so I only stick to forums that discuss what I'm interested in for instance bts....mainly jungkook and there isnt much tea on him here...

I'm not gonna lie, I like Jungkook, tan Jungkook. Like he is hot...gorgeous infact (this is sooo cringe) And I feel that he is straight for some reason.

Mainly cause I saw videos of him flirting with girls off camera and staring at some girls butt during the vmas and looked away when the camera was on him.

So in conclusion......this forum does shape peoples views in someone and I hope that this hate train on them could stop. First it was V...now he is a victim...now it is Jin and he used to be the victim. Then its Jung kook...then he is a victim.

Its confusing, so I think its should be fair that we hold each member accountable, their all victims of abuse and thats as far as we ever know.

Well atleast till the world ends:)

I'm craving for some real tea guys
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I made whole bts shipping thread. Please check it out and share some of your reasoning.
Okey, thank you
 






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The song about the r*pe was definitely by iron and it's pretty bad because he also took part in it. He's more friends with Rm, suga jhope. So I wonder if they're in this at all because at the time, RM made that song expensive girl and that just sounds wrong looking back.

On a website in 2015 I saw a fan hyping up the 'I need u' MV but it was very creepy. Thinking back to the time you'd think there was so many fans but there was no stan twt then compared today it was dead like a eerie silence. The way I saw that music video it looked like a spray paint at a gas station in silence wih NJ on the background. Weird how far they progressed.

I heard bighit changed the videos in the glitch season but back then it was offputting how silent it was in the start and endings how it went about 5 minutes. It was very very quiet. If the fans weren't here they would definitely not have as many tickets :oops:
 






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And when it comes to Jin, Vee is really the only one I notice that kinda controls their fan service stuff. View attachment 34151View attachment 34153View attachment 34154View attachment 34152
So, taejin is really fan service only? Waks :'v the other think that blow my mind so much is Vope. Because, I for sure remember that green is J-Hope fave colour, but now Tae's mic is green. But, I think that Vee is also always wearing red colour accessories, like bandana, string, and shoes. That immediately refers to J-Hope that his mic is red. It's just my opinion but I triggered since I drawn my self into taejin (but now I'm struggling to get out from shipping) then I started to think, vope is real. argh. :'( stop myself.
 






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So, taejin is really fan service only? Waks :'v the other think that blow my mind so much is Vope. Because, I for sure remember that green is J-Hope fave colour, but now Tae's mic is green. But, I think that Vee is also always wearing red colour accessories, like bandana, string, and shoes. That immediately refers to J-Hope that his mic is red. It's just my opinion but I triggered since I drawn my self into taejin (but now I'm struggling to get out from shipping) then I started to think, vope is real. argh. :'( stop myself.
Same.. vhope i was absolutely convinced because vee has a whole series of pictures dedicated to hob1 called "oh". He said it's because when he looked at him all he could think was oh.

So one of the theories is that BeTeS was a planned success, so do you think their earliest fan service is more fake or is possibly real? I get in this forum its said that everything is fake, but just in case that gets proven wrong, and it was just a coincidence that they became so successful. I like to also theorize about it being real and differentiate how their "fan service" changed after their popularity.
 






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Same.. vhope i was absolutely convinced because vee has a whole series of pictures dedicated to hob1 called "oh". He said it's because when he looked at him all he could think was oh.

So one of the theories is that BeTeS was a planned success, so do you think their earliest fan service is more fake or is possibly real? I get in this forum its said that everything is fake, but just in case that gets proven wrong, and it was just a coincidence that they became so successful. I like to also theorize about it being real and differentiate how their "fan service" changed after their popularity.
I become more realistic now :v it's open my eyes. I don't even know what taejin have done, it's just for fan service. It seems to be real in some of analysis, but I keep to think that we never know the truth if they don't reveal themself. And, I started to think that jinkook is real. Ok, it's enough to make me disappointed about taejin, so I can move on from idol shipping :'D it sucks. Cus, I don't like other ships except taejin wkwk
 






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