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So basically my sis went out and I asked if she wanted to buy wollen shirts ( idk what it is caled) buuut anyways she sended me some items that I didn’t ask or like hahaha, one of them was this bts hoodie. Yo the be selling clothes now too . My sis doesnt even know anything about kpop or bts but stil. It was weird like the store was bershka yknow mainstream shop .
 

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To answer the first part: parasocial relationships. It's existed since the beginning of time, but it became more prevalent with the advent of TV and Hollywood. It seems like it's not, but idolizing someone through a parasocial relationship is entirely a selfish endeavor. You'll never know the person due to the physical barriers between you and them and their personality (your screens, your skulls), so you use them as a (mostly) blank slate and project what you want onto them and they fulfill whatever image you've constructed in your mind for them to be - for whatever you need them for. Everyone does it to varying degrees. Psychoanalysis is really interesting and I can link you an amazing video that touches on parasocial relationships in the context of YouTubers and their fans if you want.
That's very interesting. Thank you for explaining. I also had the thought that it sounds very selfish. That if you aren't genuinly interested in what the other person is feeling or thinking - it can't be a genuine relationship, because in a way, the other person doesn't even exist for you. But I'm curious, where does this need come from? Why would you need to project your perfect image onto someone? And why does someone need to be your perfect image for you to like them? It's so difficult for me to understand.
Yes please, I would love to watch the video, I'm very interested in this topic.
 
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Omg they openly said that they have alter egos. Jamal spoke about his alter ego named Alex Armanto that comes out occasionally and he even explained his full background story, could it be a glitch/mk ultra? Also, what's up with the Latin (?) name? It reminded me of a movie that was based on real events (I highly recommend you watch it, it shows us the whole truth) where some psych ward way back in time used to brainwash and experiment on women (mk ultra) and it was revealed that the elite was behind all of this. In the movie, "doctors" were in charge of creating different personas for each woman every other day and all the alters had different historic/ethnic backgrounds and genders. Those women had no idea what it was going on.
 
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astro info on V

Rising sign: Scorpio. In birth star (Jyestha).
Mind you, the rising sign is the most important aspect of one's chart.
I'm quoting/noting from a website created by a well-known astrologer.
  1. Jyeztha may be associated with cult leadership.
  2. The method of dealing with criticism is to deny it and repeat the 'revealed' claims.
  3. Jyeztha native enjoys certain darkly charismatic mentally manipulative powers.
  4. One may make a show of consulting authorities but indeed the Jyeztha native is convinced in advance of one's own righteousness.
  5. The status of Budha-Kuja (Mercury-Mars) within the Jyotisha nativity will determine the course of one's true righteousness in the dharmic (one's duty) context. Jyeztha can produce both a great saint and a manipulative fraud.
  6. Is of dark complexion. Hands and legs are weak. Is jealous, revengeful, secretive, may be a politician.
  7. Is not happy in family life; has few friends, may take up the study of magic or mysterious things, will travel much by sea.
  8. Likely to be greatly influenced by his (future) wife.
  9. Jyeztha are pre-emptive, pro-active talkers. (They don't take advice and rather speak "prophetic like messages").

His Moon is in Pisces in conjunction to Ketu in birth star (Revati)...The Moon is the spirit coming into Matter (his body). In Indian astrology, the Moon is the more important than the Sun.

Revati "the Shepherd" loves children, defends the powerless, is quite verbal, often gifted in handcraft such as musical or artistic production, and possessed of a lovely voice with which to call the flocks. A bit of a diva or 'high-maintenance personality' usually due to their high-strung Budha-engine sense of divine mission to guide the masses toward a more wise, more conscious future.

Chandra (Moon) in Revati: soothed by wayfaring rhythms protector of poetic interpretation; needs to feel wisely dreamlike = Meeting on the Path- connection, growth and increase; a shepherd and guide. excellent for scout-troop leaders, shepherds and animal herders, children's advocacy, angel guardian of the defenseless , protectors of animals and lesser beings, Pied Piper roles, trail-guides and tour-guides. Often gifted and inspirational (Guru-Jupiter) writers, speakers and singers (Budha-Mercury)...may however also lead lemmings to the sea (i.e. suicide pack).

It may not be clear that the creative expressions of Revati [but maybe to perhaps] provide specific spiritual signaling for an attuned group of followers coming up the path behind this native. But that it precisely their shepherding role in the cosmos (astrally).


Obviously this isn't a whole chart reading of V, but I intuitively felt I need to read specifically his rising and moon sign for some reason and found this info. Birth stars reveal more deeply of the person in eastern astrology unlike western astrology. His moon being in a water sign, he is needy, clingy and manipulative. He feels close to Spirit and communicates with Him astrally, and all is revealed through his music and/or creative expression as the Moon is in the 5th house of creativity/creation. His feelings does change a lot, like water; the ocean. He has strong desire and passion for children and social following/organizations as Moon aspects his 11th house. He knows his feelings yet having Ketu touching his Moon, he feels detached from them...like he is suspicious and critical to his own feelings. His own mother may not have any interest of him in general when he was born. He's very psychic though and has luck in gambling and fame (of course). He may not have his own children in the future.

He wants to be a Shepard. He needs followers. His followers connect with him astrally. It's dangerous. "Revati born persons are the most god fearing and are religiously much inclined."
 

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To answer the first part: parasocial relationships. It's existed since the beginning of time, but it became more prevalent with the advent of TV and Hollywood. It seems like it's not, but idolizing someone through a parasocial relationship is entirely a selfish endeavor. You'll never know the person due to the physical barriers between you and them and their personality (your screens, your skulls), so you use them as a (mostly) blank slate and project what you want onto them and they fulfill whatever image you've constructed in your mind for them to be - for whatever you need them for. Everyone does it to varying degrees. Psychoanalysis is really interesting and I can link you an amazing video that touches on parasocial relationships in the context of YouTubers and their fans if you want.
"BTS-ism" is para-religious too.

Celebrities and celebrity culture[,] portray a kind of theology. In this sense, celebrities are akin to the Greek gods or the saints. They exist in a mythic world of stories and tales. They’re godlike, not in the Christian Trinitarian way, but in a mythic sense. Celebrity stories are kind of like tales from Mount Olympus. When we read about celebrities, they are like us and yet not like us. They live in a sort of parallel world, which is real and yet unreal. Like Greek mythology and the stories of the saints, celebrity stories are peopled with the incredibly beautiful and the hopelessly flawed, with angels and demons, saints and sinners, the venerable and the venal. Celebrity stories are in many ways like morality tales. They portray possible ways of being good or bad, faithful or unfaithful, ideal or not ideal.

Celebrity culture is significant because it forms a part of the complex interaction between representation and identity construction. Functional equivalence may be limited as a way of understanding popular culture, but there are, perhaps, more fruitful ways of theologizing from and in relation to this shifting and constantly changing area. The key to this kind of theological work, I want to argue, lies in recognizing that there is a connection to be made between celebrity culture as a kind of religious or mythical narrative and the way that media discourses operate. So the theological content of the celebrity world is found not so much in the faith or lack of faith of celebrities or even in their religious preferences or practices. The theological content of celebrity culture is rather to be found in the way celebrity is constructed. It is in the way that celebrities are portrayed and in the structure of the media narratives that offer us celebrity news.
 
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Omg they openly said that they have alter egos. Jamal spoke about his alter ego named Alex Armanto that comes out occasionally and he even explained his full background story, could it be a glitch/mk ultra? Also, what's up with the Latin (?) name? It reminded me of a movie that was based on real events (I highly recommend you watch it, it shows us the whole truth) where some psych ward way back in time used to brainwash and experiment on women (mk ultra) and it was revealed that the elite was behind all of this. In the movie, "doctors" were in charge of creating different personas for each woman every other day and all the alters had different historic/ethnic backgrounds and genders. Those women had no idea what it was going on.
Ah, just like one of sugas alter egos "August" jm has an alter ego named Alex? Well yes, all of this demonic possession and mk ultra programming causes personality disorders. They change into their alter egos depending on what they're doing/performing just to deceive fans more. Same as when they get possessed; it looks better because it's sinful and evil, and since 99% or 100% of armys don't know God, they welcome that sinful pleasure.
 

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Ah, just like one of sugas alter egos "August" jm has an alter ego named Alex? Well yes, all of this demonic possession and mk ultra programming causes personality disorders. They change into their alter egos depending on what they're doing/performing just to deceive fans more. Same as when they get possessed; it looks better because it's sinful and evil, and since 99% or 100% of armys don't know God, they welcome that sinful pleasure.
Well said! Most Hollywood celebs have also alter egos that have fully disclosed to the public and they allegedly exist for them to distance themselves from their real personality and soul as they take on a role when on stage since art is always about selling illusions anyway. But, renowned artists have been subjected to mk ultra through torturing and they don't get to have a say when it comes to their (pre-determined) alters. Sometimes it's also more beneficial when demons enter their alters instead so as to not entirely damage their core mind.

In ancient Greece a great variety of prominent philosophers and artists spoke of "demons" (daimonion) that inspired their craft. Demons were by no means considered evil at that time (on the contrary) and the meaning of this word meant "wisdom" among other things. Art was always linked to demons back in the day (just not in the same sense as now). They believed that their voices came from God and while practicing their art, they were almost experiencing a supernatural occurrence where they weren't themselves when thinking/making art/voicing their opinion so they had "alters"so to speak. So, I think that demonic possession/alters has been happening to important and extremely intelligent figures since the ancient times, but now TBTB have discovered a way through neurology and satanism to induce it by force to some people that aren't that intelligent, making them believe that they and their talent are god sent all the while. But I can't help but wonder how Jamal was aware of his alter? Maybe he really believes that he is being guided by an entity that takes over when in need.

 
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That's very interesting. Thank you for explaining. I also had the thought that it sounds very selfish. That if you aren't genuinly interested in what the other person is feeling or thinking - it can't be a genuine relationship, because in a way, the other person doesn't even exist for you. But I'm curious, where does this need come from? Why would you need to project your perfect image onto someone? And why does someone need to be your perfect image for you to like them? It's so difficult for me to understand.
Yes please, I would love to watch the video, I'm very interested in this topic.
yea it's a sad wholly one sided dead end relationshit going nowhere in your mind and i'm pretty sure it opens portals to the demonic realm inviting them to your bed if you engage in having vivid fantasies of sleeping with them. if you do that you might as well get a self celebrating certificate that says you're married to trapping yourself in your loony head (i mean hey, if someone fully sober got married to their poor unknowing pet dog and made love to a theme park ride then why can't you go for it? nothing's surprising and impossible, you're your worst critic. instead of snapping out of it it's time to stop judging yourself if you want to be representative fodder for the beloved antichrist.) because it's no one but you with yourself slamming your head on the wall from non reciprocation and perpetual frustration, not that person but at the end of the day they know they're alone and in no relationship (unless they're straight up nuts and they DO think they're in an actual relationship damn, sasaengs come to mind like i've religiously stanned before but i'll never be in a sasaeng's shoes) except it's just some kinda relentless twisted routine they can't get themselves out of. i think depending on how much you loathe yourself (or rather don't know how to love yourself) the crazier the projection is and the need comes from having to fill the exceptional void. all rational logic goes out the door once you hit that pitch black pitfall where you do anything to justify your obsession with somebody who doesn't even know you breathe and exist. it's much worse if they think they know them to any degree when in reality they don't because in their heads that's weird imagined granted plentiful permission to continue indulging those projections and fantasies. their desperately clingy baseless thoughts inspired by their thirst and delusional mentally self inflicting behavior centering around the subject of their cold obsession are counterproductive and destructive to their very being but if they're aware of that fact then they don't care because they're most likely used to being in la la land and playing out the fantasies in their heads even though it's not mutual. it's really pitiful because anyone has the potential to find a decent partner if they're just not like that. but the problem is that's how they are going to end up if they're comfortable living in their heads.
 
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did you guys hear about the one notorious shameless sasaeng who painted her poop mixed with her bias's poop on their walls. i also heard she froze some she put in a container that she wrote cookie dough on. it's sad because if you think about it sasaengs don't have to be poop fetishists. they could be 1/16th of a more regular human being.
 
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Rm is back to KAWS I feel like he really did buy this statue and put it in his house because he has enough money there's a website that lets you buy the ones like these.

He has a ton of these figures in his room yeah they look cool but I wouldn't have bought as much as him, it's not just him but Sug has them too.


I really wonder if they are for granting spells or something more because they make me creeped out by just the faces. They look a cool design but I wonder why he chose these specifically to collect. Not just him but the hyungs all collect them.

I could promise they post about them at least twice a month. If it isn't KAWS it's selfies and I don't know why they don't talk about other things other than photos of them. Like trips they visited places they went to. I always wondered about it.
 

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Rm is back to KAWS I feel like he really did buy this statue and put it in his house because he has enough money there's a website that lets you buy the ones like these.

He has a ton of these figures in his room yeah they look cool but I wouldn't have bought as much as him, it's not just him but Sug has them too.


I really wonder if they are for granting spells or something more because they make me creeped out by just the faces. They look a cool design but I wonder why he chose these specifically to collect. Not just him but the hyungs all collect them.

I could promise they post about them at least twice a month. If it isn't KAWS it's selfies and I don't know why they don't talk about other things other than photos of them. Like trips they visited places they went to. I always wondered about it.
yeah, like whats so important about them? its so unnecessary to post figurines all the time, unless, maybe its useful for him somehow? we dont know how and why but theres gotta be a dark reason behind those, its like its their tradition/ritual to post kaws related, maybe he does put spells on them or put demons in them so he can show armys who he really is working for.
 

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Rm is back to KAWS I feel like he really did buy this statue and put it in his house because he has enough money there's a website that lets you buy the ones like these.

He has a ton of these figures in his room yeah they look cool but I wouldn't have bought as much as him, it's not just him but Sug has them too.


I really wonder if they are for granting spells or something more because they make me creeped out by just the faces. They look a cool design but I wonder why he chose these specifically to collect. Not just him but the hyungs all collect them.

I could promise they post about them at least twice a month. If it isn't KAWS it's selfies and I don't know why they don't talk about other things other than photos of them. Like trips they visited places they went to. I always wondered about it.
that kaws and weird ass crosses eyes dolls freak me out , kim k also has those dolss in her childrens playground . It is so weird like what does it symbolise that they are programmed .
 
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that kaws and weird ass crosses eyes dolls freak me out , kim k also has those dolss in her childrens playground . It is so weird like what does it symbolise that they are programmed .
im convinced that its kind of like an inside joke for mind controlled peeps, or handlers too, they hold a lot of secrets and that kaws doll is one of them, celebs just use and post them all the time, theres always gotta be a reason behind that.
 

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That's very interesting. Thank you for explaining. I also had the thought that it sounds very selfish. That if you aren't genuinly interested in what the other person is feeling or thinking - it can't be a genuine relationship, because in a way, the other person doesn't even exist for you. But I'm curious, where does this need come from? Why would you need to project your perfect image onto someone? And why does someone need to be your perfect image for you to like them? It's so difficult for me to understand.
Yes please, I would love to watch the video, I'm very interested in this topic.
Ah... I can't really encapsulate my thoughts into words properly. See here is where it would've been really helpful to have that video to link but I went to find it to link it here and instead found the youtuber (Connie Glynn) who made it deleted all her videos. The video was posted in 2018 but she was still going through some personal stuff at the time. She deleted all her stuff... sucks because it was the only video online that talked about parasocial relationships in the context of youtubers :(
 

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Omg they openly said that they have alter egos. Jamal spoke about his alter ego named Alex Armanto that comes out occasionally and he even explained his full background story, could it be a glitch/mk ultra? Also, what's up with the Latin (?) name? It reminded me of a movie that was based on real events (I highly recommend you watch it, it shows us the whole truth) where some psych ward way back in time used to brainwash and experiment on women (mk ultra) and it was revealed that the elite was behind all of this. In the movie, "doctors" were in charge of creating different personas for each woman every other day and all the alters had different historic/ethnic backgrounds and genders. Those women had no idea what it was going on.

Woowowow ! Why did j-hope even ask for his name? He knew that at This moment jm is not gonna be himself ? Even jk seems not to understand his attitude. He was so into it. I'm still a little bit surprised lol
 

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so theres freemasonry in the bible? eeekkk
most versions of the bible are corrupt but i think the reason why freemasonry and whatever is of the devil exists is to mock jesus and fecund satan uses all that numerology for himself/his army and his blasphemous purposes seeing how he mocked everything jesus did. i'm pretty sure if jesus died at 34 that would've been the highest ranking masonic degree not the number 33. satan is the copycat prince of this world because he takes whatever is originally pure and plain and defiles his shit all over it since he's not the real king.
 

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yeah, like whats so important about them? its so unnecessary to post figurines all the time, unless, maybe its useful for him somehow? we dont know how and why but theres gotta be a dark reason behind those, its like its their tradition/ritual to post kaws related, maybe he does put spells on them or put demons in them so he can show armys who he really is working for.
I think they are showing solidarity to their fellow satanic artists. There is something disturbing and mystical about these dolls, and lots of famous artists (even classic painters) were dark occultists themselves. You can check out this list of renowned artists that were satanists and their purpose as written out by the Church of Satan (many of them are my favorites unfortunately)

 
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