BTS discussion thread

[mimis]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/17/bts-jungkook-dating-rumours-absolutely-not-true-big-hit-entertainment-threaten-legal-action-10755309/
BigHit said the rumors are not true and that they will investigate if the pictures were taken illigaly in order to take actions, but here is the hole in BigHit theory - the pictures MUST have been taken by an insider (someone who's been with jk and the tattoo artist these days when the pictures were taken! So to me bighit knew about the dating rumors and released the information themselves. It's like predictive programing. They will feed the fans dating, drinking rumors to a point when they get used to it so when the real tea is being spilled fans won't be so shocked. Bighit knows what they are doing!!!

I think I posted this video somewhere in the threat but it is actual now. The girl (ex kpop trainee) shares what's behind the curtains. At 2:20 she explains that in most cases insiders are the ones releasing the scandals (because there are so many people working for these companies is not so surprising to find the secret mole/s) around 04:30 min she says that companies and celebrities do know when the scandal is going to be released (days or hours before) so they know about it, at 7:00 min she says that fake scandal might be created in order to hide something that is even more scandalous. So my guesses are that BigHit knew about the scandal and is releasing it in order to hide something else. (may be jungkook is dating someone but not the tattoo artist..he might be dating a kpop idol, which would be more scandalous so they have to smudge fan's eyes for the truth by releasing fake scandals so when the real scandal comes out fans will no longer believe it!)

 

[Truthteller]

just here to posts articles....koreans know about Jamal and are bringing it up

Jungkook's tattooist friend denies that they are in a relationship

7. [+212, -22] Jimin's finger flick video in Paris got buried but if you look at the type of people Jungkook hangs out with, he's very different from the type of image he portrays in public. Imagine the kind of money he makes and the kind of seductions that lurk around him. I'm scared that BTS is going to end up like Big Bang later on. If they're given a month-long vacation and this is what they cause, they're on that path.

8. [+195, -32] So this is why they asked fans to ignore them when they see them in public on vacation... so they can go around on dates with their girlfriend. Hmm... Jimin was caught at a bar giving being playful with a girl in a foreign country too. I wonder how these two aren't apologetic to the other hyungs who are working hard on their next album.

9. [+184, -13] I noticed all the flashy tattoos Jungkook's been getting on his finger and the hippy hair styles. His style's been getting weirder... just why? Please wake up.

10. [+178, -17] Come on... Armies know what kind of personality Jungkook has by now ㅋㅋㅋ he's totally not the type to get all sleazy towards a girl, he's actually a lot more introverted... so for Jungkook to be backhugging a girl in public basically means that they're already dating. He also has Mijoo's initials MJ on his fingers. He knew he'd get caught so he tried to make the M look like some house so he could have an excuse to shield himself later if he got caught.

5. [+116, -11] Jungkook-ah... is this the kind of person you really were? My image of him has really shattered after seeing what kind of people he hangs out with.. ㅡㅡ

6. [+83, -18] The hyung line goes to art exhibits, bike riding, fishing, and other wholesome vacation activities... while the maknae line... I guess they're young blood for a reason...

Many people in the world have woken up to the truth about media and the celebrity puppets among other tthings. Of course there are a lot of sheep too. I read various news outlets including very mainstream ones there are woke people in the comment sections depsite the fact they may be censored. Based on the comments, Koreans in general come across as quite clueless about these things and are perhaps more easily manipulated by mediaplay. It is just as @NotDelulu wrote. The whole thing was probably staged. Him showing off his tattoos to all the photographers and boom a couple of hours later, he is dating an androgynous tattoo artist with proof. The fact that he was there drinking with her and a manager makes it even more obvious. I just didn’t think Big$hit would go to these lengths to ward off g@y rumours, especially in a country where people seem to totally lack a g@ydar and consider some very abnormal behaviours brotherly. They will show and promote so much homo behaviour, yet will do this because of what a fansite said? Very odd... Maybe that is the only thing that will make Koreans consider it a possibility that these idols are g@y in the first. I still can’t wrap my head around how for eg TH or one-eyed recommend explicit homosexual movies and books without a problem, but this is suddenly an issue.

If only people knew Jimhoe was mediating prostitutes, let alone a male one, that would be the end of them. They really buried that didn’t they. Of course there is no guarantee that it won’t resurface.

 

[cadiz]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/17/bts-jungkook-dating-rumours-absolutely-not-true-big-hit-entertainment-threaten-legal-action-10755309/
BigHit said the rumors are not true and that they will investigate if the pictures were taken illigaly in order to take actions, but here is the hole in BigHit theory - the pictures MUST have been taken by an insider (someone who's been with jk and the tattoo artist these days when the pictures were taken! So to me bighit knew about the dating rumors and released the information themselves. It's like predictive programing. They will feed the fans dating, drinking rumors to a point when they get used to it so when the real tea is being spilled fans won't be so shocked. Bighit knows what they are doing!!!

I think I posted this video somewhere in the threat but it is actual now. The girl (ex kpop trainee) shares what's behind the curtains. At 2:20 she explains that in most cases insiders are the ones releasing the scandals (because there are so many people working for these companies is not so surprising to find the secret mole/s) around 04:30 min she says that companies and celebrities do know when the scandal is going to be released (days or hours before) so they know about it, at 7:00 min she says that fake scandal might be created in order to hide something that is even more scandalous. So my guesses are that BigHit knew about the scandal and is releasing it in order to hide something else. (may be jungkook is dating someone but not the tattoo artist..he might be dating a kpop idol, which would be more scandalous so they have to smudge fan's eyes for the truth by releasing fake scandals so when the real scandal comes out fans will no longer believe it!)

aparently the picture was CCTV footage leaked by an employee of the restaurant
What I find strange is.... Dispatch works for Bighit, so why not using them? if they did this to cover his gay rumors, dispatch was the easy choice to start rumors between JK and some female celeb

But instead.....JK was paired with this woman who looks like a man and is full of tattoos
If you look at the comments people think he into shady things because of her

9. [+113, -14] Did a woman with tattoos and piercings look cool to you? ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

4. [+99, -5] Sure, dating's fine, but it is shocking that he's dating a tattooist like her

1. [+105, -9] Jungkook-ah, please just date a female idol instead~

7. [+8, -1] I don't care that he's dating but I'm not fond of the girl... she has tattoos all over her body...

if BH planned this.... chossing a woman who looks like a man and has tattos on her face is a strange idea

I guess we will never know the truth
but what's important is that their image is finally suffering.. And people are allready comparing them to BB

 

[OvercomeItAll]

aparently the picture was CCTV footage leaked by an employee of the restaurant
What I find strange is.... Dispatch works for Bighit, so why not using them? if they did this to cover his gay rumors, dispatch was the easy choice to start rumors between JK and some female celeb

But instead.....JK was paired with this woman who looks like a man and is full of tattoos
If you look at the comments people think he into shady things because of her

9. [+113, -14] Did a woman with tattoos and piercings look cool to you? ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

4. [+99, -5] Sure, dating's fine, but it is shocking that he's dating a tattooist like her

1. [+105, -9] Jungkook-ah, please just date a female idol instead~

7. [+8, -1] I don't care that he's dating but I'm not fond of the girl... she has tattoos all over her body...

if BH planned this.... chossing a woman who looks like a man and has tattos on her face is a strange idea

I guess we will never know the truth
but what's important is that their image is finally suffering.. And people are allready comparing them to BB

Exactly, at this point, there is no purpose in trying to decipher what jk has really been doing/who he really is with, 'cause we wont know the full truth anyway, we can only make assumptions.

The good thing is that fans are starting to fall out of love, and finally starting to look at those devils the way we do. I pray things only get worse for them from here (image-wise).

 

[Truthteller]

aparently the picture was CCTV footage leaked by an employee of the restaurant
What I find strange is.... Dispatch works for Bighit, so why not using them? if they did this to cover his gay rumors, dispatch was the easy choice to start rumors between JK and some female celeb

But instead.....JK was paired with this woman who looks like a man and is full of tattoos
If you look at the comments people think he into shady things because of her

9. [+113, -14] Did a woman with tattoos and piercings look cool to you? ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

4. [+99, -5] Sure, dating's fine, but it is shocking that he's dating a tattooist like her

1. [+105, -9] Jungkook-ah, please just date a female idol instead~

7. [+8, -1] I don't care that he's dating but I'm not fond of the girl... she has tattoos all over her body...

if BH planned this.... chossing a woman who looks like a man and has tattos on her face is a strange idea

I guess we will never know the truth
but what's important is that their image is finally suffering.. And people are allready comparing them to BB

Not that it matters, but the choice makes a lot of sense. If they left it to Dispatch and a female idol it would have meant that the dating rumours are true and they wouldn’t be able to deny it. They wanted minimal damage and weren’t looking for a legit rumour, rather something that would raise those speculations but could easily be denied. So what better than a tattoo artist with a lot of idol friends she tattoos? Bet they didn’t about the connection to criminal behaviour, or maybe they did but decided to go for it anyway. Since these kind of people are known for having a certain reputation, the hug wouldn’t have to mean much either.

 

[NotDelulu]

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Not that it matters, but the choice makes a lot of sense. If they left it to Dispatch and a female idol it would have meant that the dating rumours are true and they wouldn’t be able to deny it. They wanted minimal damage and weren’t looking for a legit rumour, rather something that would raise those speculations but could easily be denied. So what better than a tattoo artist with a lot of idol friends she tattoos? Bet they didn’t about the connection to criminal behaviour, or maybe they did but decided to go for it anyway. Since these kind of people are known for having a certain reputation, the hug wouldn’t have to mean much either.

I think there is more to the story
the way there is like an organized effort to tarnish jks perfect golden maknae image. On his bday and now. He was spotless you know?
My assumption bighit is planning to launch his solo career and maybe someone from rival agency is making moves to sabotage this


Thats my concpirative ass thinking

 

[yxxllxh]

Of course they do . I am just really curious how much it will blow up this time. They tried the same thing with Jimin, and every single time they messed up. And what kind of distraction BH is going to use this time.

Edit: It has started to blow up. JK and his supposed girlfriend are trending on Korean twitter, and Korean fans are threatening translators with lawsuits from BH if they translate for international fans.

absolutely ridiculous, they are brainwashed minions.

 

[yxxllxh]

Yeah I also saw pictures.
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Even if BigHit denies it I feel like bts needs this drama. I even feel like bighit is aware of the rumors or releasing them. The company is strong enough to shut everyone who tries to expose bts but may be there is no more need of that. The boys are getting old. It will be very stupid for delusional fans to think they are dating "army"... like imagine if the boys are 30 and fans still think they are dating no one and just spending time with the group because they care about each other, and they are like a family and blah blah. It's crazy to say the least, so I have few teories.
1. Big hit is afraid no more to show bts in a bad light because they know the influence they already have over kuku fans and that it won't affect their careers!
2. Big hit gets a lot of threats from sasaengs, who want money or else they threat to release private information and the company figured it will cost less to the company to feed army bts's dirty laundry one by one member so fans don't be completely shocked and blown away when more serious shit is brought to light. (a.k.a predictive programming)
3. Bighit might seen that kpop scandals start to become a common thing and soon K army might change their mindset to idols not dating etc. (Example for that is Jennie and Kai scandal didn't ruin but boost their careers ) And so the company might try to change the rules and bring the change to kpop mentality as a whole since we all know bighit (for now) has the biggest influence over kpop fans and this might be ongoing experiment with fans, to see their reactions and then all the company has to do is say "it's not true" and lost sheep will believe it, because they believe everything bighit says or does!
BigHit is like Kim Jong-un for South Korea so I won't be surprised if they are playing games with army!!!

I agree with this they are constantly testing the waters and indeed, they play the game of letting 'scandals' leak themselves so that it is less shocking and sasaengs don't have any threats against them.

 

[yxxllxh]

Now I also thought about something lately, maybe it was already disscussed here but do you remember that one survey BigHit released in 2018 i think. Especially that one page where they asked about personal issues such as depression, etc.?
Like what is their plan with that? Many are thinking that they are making money out of the fans mental/life issues...
Thank God I didn't submit anything when it came out...

 

[JINtercession]

Not exactly BTS related, but there was discussion of sacrificing infants for their purity.
Apparently in China, they have been turning aborted fetuses into pills to be used for medicine and been importing them to South Korea.

 

[mimis]

The drama started to get recognition by major kpop related channels. The fans were so angry at first but when the company denied the news they started acting so chill as if that doesn't bother them. Just read some of the comments...
"When Junkook does get a gf, I will pray for her, I will personally pay for her security."
"Imagine if bighit wrote “yea he's dating. so what?”"
"sees Jungkook with a womanToxic ARMY: omg Jungkook is cheating on us this is unacceptable "
"Jungkook: breathes same air as another girlArmy: OMG THEYRE MARRIED" - fans already make a joke out of that drama and just as I expected bighit is preparing the soil, they will make army seem like crazy for believing fake rumors and when the real drama comes out fans won't believe it. I won't be surprised if the tattoo artist got paid for this drama or had a deal with bighit. Because her career can go either way, she might get more customers or loose prestige so no more celebrities go there to have tattoos because of the drama surrounding her, and lets not talk about the toxic fans, who might get obsssesed with her and start following her or try to hurt her. So I do feel like she has agreements with bigs*it and knew before the photos were reliesed. I imagine how they must have felt knowing they are being filmed but pretend they are having fun for the photo so they can make a fake story out of it, it must mess them up. I am sure Jk is a good friend with her but he had to sacrifice his personal space and make this releationship scam, possibly damaging both their careers and friendship.
But I mean, at the end of the day he is millionare and we are not so whatever...

 

[sandonthebeach]

bt5 are due to play in Saudi Arabia on 11 oct, although I haven’t looked into this particular date so don’t know any relevance, but what struck me when I first head they were playing in SA was how would a group with such a loud support for lgbtea community be welcome in a country with a negative view (putting it very lightly)on that community?

BTS going to Saudi Arabia, I think it has to do more with politics and money. Lgbt it's just a thing to use against the population and then, when convenient, it will be discarded.

 

[wow]

I posted this on the other related thread but am posting here too in case there are people here who aren’t on that thread.

I have a bit of a theory regarding this new souprgroup and bt5. Again, my usual disclaimer of I’m just thinking aloud and I could be way off the mark etc.

Anyway, on the subject of sacrifices, bt5 are due to play in Saudi Arabia on 11 oct, although I haven’t looked into this particular date so don’t know any relevance, but what struck me when I first head they were playing in SA was how would a group with such a loud support for lgbtea community be welcome in a country with a negative view (putting it very lightly)on that community?
So with this in mind, and this new soupergroup kicking off, what if one of bt5 is to be sacrifyced in SA and it put down to someone who has strong feelings about their lgbtea support?
Thus like JH may have been sacrifyced for BT5 success, maybe one of Bt5 is sacrifyced for new soupergroup success?
I hope I’m wrong of course, I hope nothing happens, but given the way these things work, and the same patterns cropping up, I can’t help but wonder.

i think its for their fame to die down since fans wont be happy about them performing there, or its for serving services or could be for having a ritual there since sa is very shady.

10/11/2019

1+0 + 1+1 = 3

2+0+1+9 = 3 + 9 = 12
1 + 2 = 3

3 + 3 = 6

and i oop

i can feel a huge ritual coming, can someone share an article about occult rituals on oct 11?

 

[NotDelulu]

The forum is slowly dying... but fans are slowly awakening... thats some encouraging tweet from k armys and its spreading

People see thru bh. And the reason they show so much of broken jm is cuz they lay the grounds for his solo career. Who cares if his health is broken.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1175437855729967107

 

[Truthteller]

The forum is slowly dying...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1175437855729967107

This forum is dying because they are also dying. It went faster than expected, as predicted the remaining time won’t be as smooth. Their hype has seriously died down. Probably an accumulation of things, but their recent scandals certainly did help . Happens to everyone. The hype lasts a couple of years max, and then gossip is what keeps them relevant.

 

[NotDelulu]

This forum is dying because they are also dying. It went faster than expected, as predicted the remaining time won’t be as smooth. Their hype has seriously died down. Probably an accumulation of things, but their recent scandals certainly did help . Happens to everyone. The hype lasts a couple of years max, and then gossip is what keeps them relevant.

True. Though they say there will be a big comeback in october
Probably darker than ever

 

[wow]

True. Though they say there will be a big comeback in october
Probably darker than ever

thats gonna be their last comeback, change my mind.

 

[yxxllxh]

Not to mention they come back in October, literally the most occult month of the year...

 

[asdfghjkl3]

This forum is dying because they are also dying. It went faster than expected, as predicted the remaining time won’t be as smooth. Their hype has seriously died down. Probably an accumulation of things, but their recent scandals certainly did help . Happens to everyone. The hype lasts a couple of years max, and then gossip is what keeps them relevant.

For me, I am still watching them, but I do not have the time to dig really deep. My real life is much more important to me than a boyband, and right now I have so much more to do than monitor their every step.
In terms of hype you may be right. I noticed that after JK's scandal a lot of the people I follow on social media got really quiet compared to before. All of them have been posting messages to leave him alone and that they do not care wether he dates someone or not, but their actions say otherwise. It seems that even the "laid-back" international fans are pretty hurt about this. And if my information is correct, than the Korean fans have been really upset since JM was caught in Paris. Right now, his and JK's image has been really damaged in Korea and they are both losing fans. Korean fans are fighting each other while at the same time trying to keep all searches "clean". There has been a translation ban so international fans are not really getting any information. If you look at big translation accounts on twitter, you can see that many have been posting a lot less than normal.
I am curious to see how long they will last. Especially with the concert in Saudi Arabia, their status as token boyband in the US could be over sooner than they think. Right now only fans are aware that they are performing there. But since the concert is part of a cultural event that is sponsored by the king of SA, there will be press releases. Western press has criticised almost all big artists who performed there in the past few years as far as I know, and since a performance in SA is directly opposed to the "values" BT$ promotes, Western press will probably write about it.

True. Though they say there will be a big comeback in october
Probably darker than ever

I heard that too, but I also heard that BH is behind schedule with both BT$ and T-T. So it might be even later. I do not know if this is going to be the last comeback, but I think I remember that they had planned at least a trilogy based on the book no one read.


As far as "news" go, the alleged girlfriend may have been fired. Apparently fans have been arrassing the tattoo studio where she work(ed) by calling non-stop, leaving hate messages and throwing trash at the windows and in front of the front door.
After a long silence on instagram, she has now started to like comments in English that congratulate her on dating JK, on top of deleting her "explanation" post. She also went up from just under 4000 followers to almost 100 000 in a matter of days.
BT$ are allegedly in New Zealand filming a reality show. Probably Bon Voyage.

 

[cadiz]

I think the thread dies because we have no topic of conversation lol (it's a good thing actually)

About hype being over, in my opinion when they start to enlist fame will start to fade (i imagine next year when Jinn goes)...
But even with those scandals affecting their image... they are very lucky because there is no other boyband in the market

Even nsync had BSB and One direction had the wanted (those one hit wonders). But BT-s really have no competition wich makes their road very easy ...we see where that road ends