BTS discussion thread

[Truthteller]

The reason some people here find themselves constantly running into BT$ material is because you keep searching or have searched on them ALOT. That is simply how the youtube, fb, instagram and even google ad algortihms work, they suggest material related to your searches. It is technically not because they are everywhere. In fact their social media following is much smaller than many other celebrities and half of those are supposedly fake. That means on a global scale 99% of people including most young people are unaware or indifferent to them. Sure there are some kpop fans at your school and they may be very loud but the reason you notice it so much is because you are hyper sensitive to it. Pop refereces exist everywhere, if one takes notice you will see people sporting Guns n Roses or Nirvana T shirts all the time, even sold at giant chain stores like H&M and the masses buy them. This is on a much more massive scale than Kpop yet you don’t notice because you don’t care for it. Simple as that. My advice, stop searching for them and look for new content, and they will stop popping in your feed. It is all part of the psychology, if all you watch is Bt$ related or their fans suddenly you will get a false perception that the world revolved around them, when in reality it doesn’t. Another trick that gets the fans hooked...

 

[ThisGirlWoke]

i understand and feel sorry for you!!
When i was in high school, there was there bts name or some kpop stuff written on table and it's really annoyed me
Tbh hopefully there was not many koreaboo in my school, they are just very loud about their passion.
That weird to use only computer 0_0, are you in Informatic school? Or some stuff like economy and finance require tecnology

You know how in this generation, technology is basically what everyone uses? Well my high school requires Chromebooks for us to use during class. Of course, we use paper. Actually, we use both of them but mainly we use Chromebooks to check our grades. We have a site where we can check all of our classes, and check if there's any updates or messages from teachers or the principal and also you can see your grade and percent, and what you've turned in and what you didn't turn in. That's actually good so we can see how high our percentage can go up or down sadly.

Example, I have a 100% in my English class let's say, so it'll show that and it'll also show an A. I happen to do a test and got a 25/30 so for said test, it'll show my percentage dropped down to maybe 97.5 I guess, it depends on how much points your work is worth, but it'll still show an A.

That's how our school works. The grading system is trash though. In my last year, I had a C in Biology but I failed a test and that 79% dropped down all the way to a 50% which is an F and every other work I've done only made my grade go up one percent so I ended up keeping that F and I had to go to summer school to retake it. That's something I highly dislike about how my school works.

 

[OvercomeItAll]

wow where are u from? Like in my school there is only a few kpoppers.

I live in the middddle of nowhere haha but there are still real die-hard fans here. I remember my friend's whole grade skipped school (the teacher had to postpone their test) the day BS&T was released solely to stream it! It was an all-girls school ofc.

The reason some people here find themselves constantly running into BT$ material is because you keep or have searched on them ALOT. That is simply how the youtube, fb, instagram and even google ad algortihms work, they suggest material related to your searches. It is technically not because they are everywhere. In fact their social media following is much smaller than many other celebrities and have of those are supposedly fake. That means on a global scale 99% of people including most young people are unaware or indifferent to them. Sure there are some kpop fans at your school and they may be very but the reason it is so is because you are hyper sensitive to it. Pop refereces exist everywhere, if one takes notice you will see people sporting Guns n Roses or Nirvana T shirts all the time, even sold at giant chain stores like H&M and the masses buy them. This is on a much more massive scale than Kpop yet you don’t notice because you don’t care for it. Simple as that. My advice, stop searching for them and look for new content, and rhey will stop popping in your feed

It's true that their fan-base may not be so large, but these fans are def. one of the most vocal and hardcore (and vulnerable too bc of their age). Every time an epidose of Run BT$ airs, they're trending. A member grew out his hair? Trending. I dont see that type of obsessive following and hype around others artists. I search and watch many other successful singers, how come they're not every where I look? I can't remember the last time a singer trended solely for holding a concert, let alone have them trending for everrry time they held a concert.

 

[ThisGirlWoke]

The reason some people here find themselves constantly running into BT$ material is because you keep searching or have searched on them ALOT. That is simply how the youtube, fb, instagram and even google ad algortihms work, they suggest material related to your searches. It is technically not because they are everywhere. In fact their social media following is much smaller than many other celebrities and half of those are supposedly fake. That means on a global scale 99% of people including most young people are unaware or indifferent to them. Sure there are some kpop fans at your school and they may be very loud but the reason you notice it so much is because you are hyper sensitive to it. Pop refereces exist everywhere, if one takes notice you will see people sporting Guns n Roses or Nirvana T shirts all the time, even sold at giant chain stores like H&M and the masses buy them. This is on a much more massive scale than Kpop yet you don’t notice because you don’t care for it. Simple as that. My advice, stop searching for them and look for new content, and they will stop popping in your feed. It is all part of the psychology, if all you watch is Bt$ related or their fans suddenly you will get a false perception that the world revolved around them, when in reality it doesn’t. Another trick that gets the fans hooked...

Yeah I agree. Dang, so in the past when I used to like 'em...that's why I keep seeing them everywhere, though I just did a test. I typed in "bts" simply once on YT, and then I clicked on a video and then clicked off. I went to watch something else and what do ya know, before the video starts I suddenly receive an ad about bts. The test is proven correct. Great.

 

[ShiningCarat14]

NO, I DIDN'T DISRESPECT YOUR RELIGION. NOT EVEN CLOSE. I just offered you an obvious truth you simply can not accept cause you are brainwashed to the core from religion. I'm not saying don't believe in God, I'm saying LEAVE YOUR GOD OUT OF THIS THREAD.

If you want everyone to respect you, stop shoving the Bible down others throats and just state the facts and the theories that need to be said. You don't need to "pray, pray, pray" in every fucking post. This thread is NOT A RELIGIOUS SHRINE YOU CAN PRAY TO, ITS A BTS DISCUSSION THREAD. If you want to discuss religion make some analysis out of it and try to correlate it with the mvs and other theories regarding the boys. We don't fucking care whether you pray or not.

Also, many of yall make this thread a pain in the ass. It's pretty much inhabitable to try to survive here. You just can't accept someone with different points of view like yours, just like those annoying kpop thread members that hate on other groups to support their faves.

I am literally one of the most attacked members on this thread since the beginning of my posts, just because I have alternative views. I get called out for lgbt rights, feminist views, sexuality matters and being a non religious person. Why ? Cause you want everyone to be like you.

Fuck, y'all hypocrites. If you really were that devoted to god, you would have never fallen for kpop on the first place. You would have noticed the obvious symbols since the very start and snapped out of it. You had that choice, and you betrayed your god for temporary comfort. What makes you think you are better than me ? I am not saying I am a saint, but at least I see through things I have wrong and don't try to hide behind the "innocent veil" of the so-called religion.

Get over yourselves, if god loved you that much he would not leave you suffer from these boys. God didn't do shit to save you in this situation. You left kpop cause of this thread, not God. Stop giving him credit more than he deserves. Humans are explorative and egoistic in nature, and none of you is different. You fell for this mess, cause you liked it. Each of you is a sinner like everybody else. It's not "devil's fault" you are human.

Im sorry but your posts are very blasphemous and many religious posters on this thread will be offended by it. I really dont appreciate you mocking God even if you dont believe in God. You are on a social platform right now with many users sharing and I just feel like you should present yourself in a more polite way as swearing and using foul language wont get your point across more than expressing in a politer way
You will probably start off on me but but its my opinion and I cant make you stop im just sharing my thoughts
Also religion is the centre of this whole illuminati business. Disregarding God and losing faith in God is the exact connection to finding love in greed fame and satan

 

[Scars512]

Has anyone been able to figure out what in the heck V's Winterbear song is about? Because it almost seems like someone put a monkey on a computer with Google translate open and this is how the song was written.

"She looks like a blue parrot"? What girl wants to be compared to a blue parrot? Does she have a big nose that resembles a beak?

"Sleep like a Winter Bear"? You mean put on extra weight and go into hibernation for a few months?

How can Army be excited about crap like this? I could see praising it if he were a 7 year old, but that "song" (using that term very loosely here) is absolutely shite. Is V really as dumb as his persona makes him out to be and this is like some kind of massive intellectual accomplishment for him?

I'm really confused

 

[gisellex]

Okay honestly, I'm tired I'm sorry. I need to do a mini rant on here, and the only reason I'm doing it on here is because y'all are the only ones who will understand, so please bare with meh.

I just- everywhere I go I see MULTIPLE things that involves bts. It seems like EVEN I can't escape them because there's always some kind of reference especially "Jimin, you got no jams" LEGIT ANNOYING AFudge. Then I see people with profile pictures of them especially tea of course!
....( ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°)

And then I see army's always bullying people who DON'T like bts, I mean seriously, there's even a girl in my class (well, before summer break ofc) that has a bunch of bts stickers decorated all over her laptop.

I can't go ANYWHERE without seeing SOMETHING that represents them! I'm tired of seeing their faces and the only way I can avoid it is if I don't use any technology but I'm gonna have to because my school requires us to use laptops to do our work.

(Yeah we don't really use paper, exclude maybe English, and PE but you know in these times it's all about tryna get people brainwashed with technology; social media)

So even if I do give up using my phone a lot, I'm still gonna see them anyways once I go back to school and use my laptop. (Sigh)

And I only tolerate seeing them on THIS WEBSITE just so we can continue analysing and hoping army's (hopefully not rude ones, but that hope is dead for me at least) will come here and we can continue exposing them. Other than that...

Ugh, help meh. (T_T)

idk for me i never heard of them until i got a twitter stan account for them. and youtube if you search their name otherwise i never see them.

 

[Red Rose]

Why do you have to be so rude to someone who's new here and just bc they aren't hateful like you? Or because they think a bit differently than you?

Thank you, I was cringing just reading the comment

 

[Hopeful]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1161456694804672513

He threw all the possible i11umin4ti signs he could throw in a minute long clip.. At first he is goofing around trying to show everything is normal but then towards the end he throws...

1 finger salute which shows status and power and he used these a lot in yesterday's clip..

The shh sign which shows secrecy.. Silence and often sexual abuse

The 666 sign for anti christ which shows they are a willing member to spread elites agenda..

The v and a subtle horn sign at the end used to meet and greet other s4t4nists..

Looks like he's falling deeper into the dark hole and not wanting to find a way back...

 

[Hopeful]

Has anyone been able to figure out what in the heck V's Winterbear song is about? Because it almost seems like someone put a monkey on a computer with Google translate open and this is how the song was written.

"She looks like a blue parrot"? What girl wants to be compared to a blue parrot? Does she have a big nose that resembles a beak?

"Sleep like a Winter Bear"? You mean put on extra weight and go into hibernation for a few months?

How can Army be excited about crap like this? I could see praising it if he were a 7 year old, but that "song" (using that term very loosely here) is absolutely shite. Is V really as dumb as his persona makes him out to be and this is like some kind of massive intellectual accomplishment for him?

I'm really confused

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/post-225245
I did a little post on it.. That's what i think.. The blue purple color is related to a condition called Livor Mortis in the dead.. So maybe that's why the blue is in there .. And i really think even some armies. He's talking about his grandma.. So yes basically it's about dead people who are on a Long sleep

 

[Hopeful]

idk for me i never heard of them until i got a twitter stan account for them. and youtube if you search their name otherwise i never see them.

I had never seen them.. Never heard of them.. Until my youtu.be kept pushing me to watch jh0nghuns funeral again and again.. And i clicked on it and ended up knowing about Beetees... A very weird way of finding out about kp0p huh.. No Thanks to YT..

 

[Scars512]

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/post-225245
I did a little post on it.. That's what i think.. The blue purple color is related to a condition called Livor Mortis in the dead.. So maybe that's why the blue is in there .. And i really think even some armies. He's talking about his grandma.. So yes basically it's about dead people who are on a Long sleep

Thanks, sorry I must have missed your post. It is really creepy if this is about his grandma.

 

[Scars512]

@Hopeful I loved your explanation.It does make sense with all that imagery.
And it was released as a tribute on 3rd anniversary of his grandma's passing,it seems.
So,he was indeed talking to her in that song and saying that she sleeps peacefully.
I think he finally made peace with the guilt of sacrificing her.(some may not agree with this sacrifice part).
And the part where everything is shown backwards may represent the desire to turn back time,you know like how superman undoes his dear ones' death in the movie.

However,nothing with these occultists could be so straightforward.So,I looked into the symbolism and found this.
Parrots symbolise fire and Sun in Mayan civilisation and believed to play a role in Mayan creation myth.They also symbolise fertility in many religions,hence,revered in occult circles.
Blue colour symbolises Egyptian God Osiris,who is believed to be the other name for baphomet/pan/lucifer/satan.
Osiris is depicted to have blue skin to represent the colour of the dead.Blue also represents egyptian goddess of fertility,Hathor and egyptian god of creation,Amun.So,mention of se* rituals.
There is a mention of flying like a blue parrot in the song.It is a reference to horus,who is believed to fly to and from sun god with info.
I do agree that the mention of winterbear could be a reference to the dead.And,in osiris myth,he is killed by his brother.While some stories say that he came back to life,others say that he remained dead.
So,in another interpretation,tea is singing the song to osiris/lucifer saying that when the devil is around,he doesn't have any bad time anymore.This kind of lyrics is commonly seen in many artists' work to show that they don't regret about the deal.
Not a surprise because when they sing about a girl,it is usually about lucifer/lucy.

You are welcome to have your own interpretation of this.

Interesting. I knew there had to be some kind of symbolism being used here, but I couldn't make much sense of it. Thanks for the interpretation.

 

[Truthteller]

Has anyone been able to figure out what in the heck V's Winterbear song is about? Because it almost seems like someone put a monkey on a computer with Google translate open and this is how the song was written.

"She looks like a blue parrot"? What girl wants to be compared to a blue parrot? Does she have a big nose that resembles a beak?

"Sleep like a Winter Bear"? You mean put on extra weight and go into hibernation for a few months?

How can Army be excited about crap like this? I could see praising it if he were a 7 year old, but that "song" (using that term very loosely here) is absolutely shite. Is V really as dumb as his persona makes him out to be and this is like some kind of massive intellectual accomplishment for him?

I'm really confused

I don’t get the impression that he is stupid, in fact I think he is one of the smarter ones in the group together with One-eyed, candyman and Jin, of course not on the level of the first two. I can discuss why he is actually very smart if anyone is interested. His other self-composed solos had decent lyrics, but they were written in Korean. Maybe this song sounds stupid because he tried to write in English and from my understanding One eyed helped him? One could say lost in translation. I do know that in many cultures animals used as metaphors, and I think that is what he was going for but the end product failed to deliver. He should just keep singing in his native tongue or learn English properly.

https://twitter.com/statuses/1161456694804672513

He threw all the possible i11umin4ti signs he could throw in a minute long clip.. At first he is goofing around trying to show everything is normal but then towards the end he throws...

1 finger salute which shows status and power and he used these a lot in yesterday's clip..

The shh sign which shows secrecy.. Silence and often sexual abuse

The 666 sign for anti christ which shows they are a willing member to spread elites agenda..

The v and a subtle horn sign at the end used to meet and greet other s4t4nists..

Looks like he's falling deeper into the dark hole and not wanting to find a way back...

They throw these signs, especially the circle to show that we are in “club” as well. Most mainstream artists, especially Kpop artists do it in one form or another, almost as if it is an obligation. The most frequent use of it which i have seen is by JYP artists, every single one them keeps throwing the sign in almost every music video or performance. Even their newer groups with very young members, it is all incorporated in the choreagraphy. This MV is a prime example, I think I lost track of how many s@tanic hand signs were thrown.

Twice also throws the devil horns/ILY, exactly the same as BT$. Fun fact: song released around the same time.

Another example of one eyes symbolism hidden in in an MV. jump to 1:30

Bottom line: they are all in this club and show obedience to their masters. They may or may not know the exact implications, but they sure as hell know they must do it to succeed.
It is the price they have to pay for fame and fortune.

 

[ThisGirlWoke]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1161456694804672513

He threw all the possible i11umin4ti signs he could throw in a minute long clip.. At first he is goofing around trying to show everything is normal but then towards the end he throws...

1 finger salute which shows status and power and he used these a lot in yesterday's clip..

The shh sign which shows secrecy.. Silence and often sexual abuse

The 666 sign for anti christ which shows they are a willing member to spread elites agenda..

The v and a subtle horn sign at the end used to meet and greet other s4t4nists..

Looks like he's falling deeper into the dark hole and not wanting to find a way back...

You know... he just looks creepy that's all ima say.

 

[ThisGirlWoke]

I don’t get the impression that he is stupid, in fact I think he is one of the smarter ones in the group together with One-eyed, candyman and Jin, of course not on the level of the first two. I can discuss why he is actually very smart if anyone is interested. His other self-composed solos had decent lyrics, but they were written in Korean. Maybe this song sounds stupid because he tried to write in English and from my understanding One eyed helped him? One could say lost in translation. I do know that in many cultures animals used as metaphors, and I think that is what he was going for but the end product failed to deliver. He should just keep singing in his native tongue or learn English properly.
They throw these signs, especially the circle to show that we are in “club” as well. Most mainstream artists, especially Kpop artists do it in one form or another, almost as if it is an obligation. The most frequent use of it which i have seen is by JYP artists, every single one them keeps throwing the sign in almost every music video or performance. Even their newer groups with very young members, it is all incorporated in the choreagraphy. This MV is a prime example, I think I lost track of how many s@tanic hand signs were thrown.

Twice also throws the devil horns/ILY, exactly the same as BT$. Fun fact: song released around the same time.

Another example of one eyes symbolism hidden in in an MV. jump to 1:30

Bottom line: they are all in this club and show obedience to their masters. They may or may not know the exact implications, but they sure as hell know they must do it to succeed.
It is the price they have to pay for fame and fortune.

Yes, please explain why he's very smart because when I was first introduced to all of them, I suddenly grew a false connection with tea (no surprise there) and he would just act stupid and goofy. Then I seen him actually acting like an adult. Even if he is smart, satanic wise, he isn't smart life wise as to give away his freaking soul just for the materialistic things of this world, honestly. -_-

But yes, I'd like to hear from your perspective please.

 

[Navy]

@Hopeful I loved your explanation.It does make sense with all that imagery.
And it was released as a tribute on 3rd anniversary of his grandma's passing,it seems.
So,he was indeed talking to her in that song and saying that she sleeps peacefully.
I think he finally made peace with the guilt of sacrificing her.(some may not agree with this sacrifice part).
And the part where everything is shown backwards may represent the desire to turn back time,you know like how superman undoes his dear ones' death in the movie.

However,nothing with these occultists could be so straightforward.So,I looked into the symbolism and found this.
Parrots symbolise fire and Sun in Mayan civilisation and believed to play a role in Mayan creation myth.They also symbolise fertility in many religions,hence,revered in occult circles.
Blue colour symbolises Egyptian God Osiris,who is believed to be the other name for baphomet/pan/lucifer/satan.
Osiris is depicted to have blue skin to represent the colour of the dead.Blue also represents egyptian goddess of fertility,Hathor and egyptian god of creation,Amun.So,mention of se* rituals.
There is a mention of flying like a blue parrot in the song.It is a reference to horus,who is believed to fly to and from sun god with info.
I do agree that the mention of winterbear could be a reference to the dead.And,in osiris myth,he is killed by his brother.While some stories say that he came back to life,others say that he remained dead.
So,in another interpretation,tea is singing the song to osiris/lucifer saying that when the devil is around,he doesn't have any bad time anymore.This kind of lyrics is commonly seen in many artists' work to show that they don't regret about the deal.
Not a surprise because when they sing about a girl,it is usually about lucifer/lucy.

You are welcome to have your own interpretation of this.

You genius!!!... Amazing!!!! Also for those trying to stop seeing btess everywhere here's something : For YouTube I used to have that problem alot but I found a solution You need to clear your "search history" then clear your "watch history" after that a few might pop up so when they do you can click "don't recommend channel ". Also unsubcribe to any channel related to them this will help. I did a couple of weeks ago now I go on YouTube and nothing!! Sometimes a little devil tries to pop up! I have tried with Instagram but I've failed and I ended up deleting and starting new. I had no problem doing that because I even deleted their music from my phone too! I don't have twitter or Facebook so it's easy for me to not see them anymore.

 

[Scars512]

I don’t get the impression that he is stupid, in fact I think he is one of the smarter ones in the group together with One-eyed, candyman and Jin, of course not on the level of the first two

I always assumed that playing dumb was just the role he was assigned, but the lyrics of that song made me question it. I think you are probably correct in that he was trying to have this deeper meaning but it got lost somewhere in translation. Or maybe it didn't. Maybe the song means a lot to people in the know and the rest of us, it doesn't really matter. All I know is that this song makes him look dumb -- even some Army have to secretly be thinking "WTF V?".

I just can't understand how Army can rave over it when it comes across as pure nonsense. The tune itself is okay, but did he write that part or just the lyrics? If the lyrics were just fan translated (as most of their stuff is), I wouldn't really have given it much thought. It is hard to translate properly if you don't have a good grasp of both languages and the people doing the translations aren't getting paid for it, so you take what you can get. But he sang in English. Shouldn't someone have helped him a little more with his English? Couldn't BH hire someone to translate for them? So many questions ...

 

[OvercomeItAll]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1161456694804672513

He threw all the possible i11umin4ti signs he could throw in a minute long clip.. At first he is goofing around trying to show everything is normal but then towards the end he throws...

1 finger salute which shows status and power and he used these a lot in yesterday's clip..

The shh sign which shows secrecy.. Silence and often sexual abuse

The 666 sign for anti christ which shows they are a willing member to spread elites agenda..

The v and a subtle horn sign at the end used to meet and greet other s4t4nists..

Looks like he's falling deeper into the dark hole and not wanting to find a way back...

Yikes.

Is there a reason why tea is the one throwing up the signs the most? At bbmas, he couldn't stop flashing them the min he arrived while the others only did it subtly and fewer times. Is it cus of his role in the group? His higher power?


Also found these recently. JH tryna tell us tea's real form lmao

 

[JINtercession]

Hmmm... Maybe Tea's folks were teaching him English...? Look behind him in this childhood photo and you can clearly see a chart with the alphabet. Also, remember the letter Jimin's dad sent in ENGLISH you discussed about a while ago? Man that still bugs me. He (if not staff) recently commented on Weverse in perfect English. (About hugging the fan of course)

Another honourable mention is jungle book oppars beloved English covers. Candy is also said to be close to Namzi's level but too shy to talk as much as him. Idk about Jean and JH. I wonder if their parents know English and have some... international connections? I also wonder if they're more connected then we think, with all their talk of their meeting and forming a group being...fated.