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Instead of arab like you contend...
You're not making any sense. Arab? Jewish? I showed you Encyclopaedia Britannica's definition of Semitic peoples. Therefore, it should be obvious, to even a pupil in primary school, how the meaning of "anti-semitism" should be understood to be, as to mean people who are being anti/against "Semitic peoples" (Semites). And Semitic peoples also include Arabs, which was just being pointed out to you, as well as Israelites and true Jews.

However, antisemitism is NOT the topic of this thread, which you have derailed. The topic is British Israel, so please stop making off-topic posts about antisemitism in a thread that has nothing to do with it.
 





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1.) Like sexual sin is a western thing...you obsess over sexual innuendo in your comments.

2.) The trinity wasn’t a doctrine for Jesus? What? Ya..I can’t understand where we get the trinity doctrine from...:rolleyes:
‭‭John‬ ‭15:26‬ ‭​

When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me.


3.) You want to see that the Jews are the scourge of the earth..so you see it. That they were given this and that...but the truth is...there were 6 million Jews that were killed in the concentration camps in WWII..where was all their power then? They didn’t have any, they didn’t have any before that and they don’t have any now. They barely keep a hold of the tiny sliver of land that they have that muslims are hateful that they own..a tiny sliver in a sea of extremist muslim fanatics.

4.) You don’t back up anything with reality.

The Bible tells us that the Jews will again be in the land God gave them for a permanent possession in His covenant with Abraham and they are in that land now. People can say that they aren’t the real Jews all day long but that doesn’t negate the fact that they are are the real Jews who are back in their land..that not only are they back in their land they kept their land from larger armies amassed against them and even took more land from those armies...God is certainly watching over them and keeping them there for His purposes.

Yep, they are still unbelievers in the land..but that also figures into prophecy as well...

5.) I don’t believe I said that the parents make the children throw the stones..but they sure aren’t stopping them or trying to protect them from getting seriously hurt or killed. That’s the parents duty to teach their kids right from wrong and to protect them...the muslim parents don’t do anything to protect their precious children from getting hurt by throwing stones at the tanks...and like I said, its almost like they want them to die...

No one bows to Israel..
UN chief proposes military force to protect Palestinians from Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-chief-proposes-military-force-to-protect-palestinians/

6.) Hitler was an anti Semite..a hater of Jews, nothing more and nothing less.

7.) Yep, the antichrist and the world will persecute Christians. And they will have a treaty with Israel for 7 years where Israel will build another temple and reinstate sacrifices to God. In the middle of the treaty the anti will break the treaty, stop the sacrifices and persecute the Jews...all in Israel. Where there happens to be Jews living. Where they just happen to have the plans and the prefab walls for the 3rd temple. They’ve trained the priests, made their cloths and have all the utensils for the sacrificing. They are just waiting on finding an unblemished red heifer so they can do the sacrifices...they can’t do them without the unblemished red heifer. When they actually get an unblemished red heifer..than I think we will see a great push for the rebuilding of the 3 temple. When that happens then watch out because that means the countdown has started!!
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You can believe all you want about me, but its all false. I am a Christian and I know what I’m talking about Biblically speaking. And your foul rants don’t add to your argument..to bad you can’t keep your cool, and its sad, because its typing...you don’t have to type those things.

1) the bible uses a lot of sexual language....so i'm probably more true to the bible than you are LOL.
2) The trinitarian doctrine is very specific, it states that the holy spirit and son, are co equals with The Father in GODHEAD!!
The quote you gave, along with many others blatantly provides a heirarchy where the holy spirit has 'nothing' on the Son..'he takes from me'. Just as Jesus said that the SON can do NOTHING without THE FATHER.
So you are following a bs doctrine....that ironically comes from the CATHOLIC CHURCH...and you call them pagans, so wtf are you? seriously im tired of christian bs. you guys have no clue what theology is, you just make it up as you go along, constantly contradicting yourselves.
3) christians/europeans are the real murderers of jews...whether the Holocaust was real or not, the massacre of jews is from your people..not muslims. Like i said before, something you chose to purposely and deceipfully ignore here, is that jews lived with muslims for the majority of islam's history..and only exist because islam saved them in a time when the byzantines were killing them with the intent to wipe them out completely (in revenge for the jewish revolt against heraclius and for murdering christians).
Israel is a european/christian colonial project..that's why the BRITISH gave palestine to jews. The arabs fought against and remain fighting against the colonial machine. The colonial machine, is ROME (the feet of iron and clay). The colonial powers were all former roman colonies and christian, this connects with Revelation 6, the whire horse conquering.
The red horse represents DEATH..and the consequence of colonialism ws WAR.
However it is still deeply offensive for you to masturbate over the holocoast but forget that 40m CHRISTIANS were murdered by bolshevik jews.
You cant use the Holocaust to buy sympathy for jews, when they killed that many christians in another place.
i dont use the sins of some people, against the majority..eg i dont believe the german/polish jews deserved to die because of the sins of russian jews...but i do believe it was a consequence of bolshevism and the control jews had over germans in germany. This isnt a justification, but at the very least, a reason behind it.
You were using the holocoast to deny the wealth of elite jews and their power. Yet, the jewish bankers/rothschilds or the bolsheviks are a seperate story. Israel is owned by the house of Rothschild and former soviet jews.
4) actually, the Quran too, in surah 17, states that the ISRAELITES will return there near the end of time (messianic israel).
There is no denying messianic israel..i believe in it as much if not more than you.
The problem is, Revelation 11 also tells us about the antichrist...
The NT tells us the antichrist will stand in the temple..
there is no temple there yet. The third temple will be built by israelites.
Zechariah 11 tells us the worthless shepherd will rule the land..and will betray his people.
Revelation tells us the antichrist will hate the prostitute and bring her to ruin.
Rev 11 also calls jerusalem 'the city figurately known as Sodom and egypt'

Messianic israel will be a land without borders, walls, weapons etc. Ezekiel 38 tells us when they return, there will be no borders/walls/weapons etc and Gog & Magog will attack them etc.
So to me it is crystal clear that current israel, which is owned by the rothschilds, hosts gay parade in jerusalem and has masonic/illuminati symbolism all over it (inc the pyramids), this is UNGODLY and part of the antichrist deception.
I suspect israel is a decoy created by the beast system (christian european)..
as it says in Revelation, that the whore will ride the beast..and the beast will hate her and destroy her when it reaches it's destinatin. So jews are being used by the BEAST/Rome and the antichrist will be the cause of Israel's destruction...
the trick is that he will play the role of saviour by destroying the economic/political system and introdicing a global system.
You can see the right wing pro nationalism movements all over the world. this is planned.

You dont know shit lisa, you are delusional and once again lack the ability to draw from scripture on this stuff.
I have also proven to you that jews have 'returned' in the past, and yet were kicked out...
returning doesnt make it messianic. jews have lived in the holy land for the past 1400 yrs. They didn't 'return', they were already there.
the people who arrived there are ashkenazi jews, they are not real jews. Everyone knows they are khazarian jews, part of gog and magog.

5)
israel murders family members and destroys homes. you dont know their thoughts whilst they throw stones. there are brothers and fathers murdered...
if my father was murdered by a foreign occupier, throwing stones as a last resort would be an act of bravery..
fyi...palestinians arent just muslim, they are christian too. 6% are christian and in fact there are many examples of christian palestinians struggling with muslims when they've been invaded by the IDF.
do some fking research please, im sick to death of your willfull ignorance.

6) again, no justification for the holocoast, but an understanding the environment at that time is necessary to understand why someone like hitler rose to power and why the holocoast happened.
the bolshevik revolution in russia, massacred germans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
there would be no hitler if germany wasnt being raped by jews economically from the west too (france, britain, usa). it was bankrupt.
read about the Treaty of Versailles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles

7)
if christians were persecuted by the antichrist next year, you would be on the side of the antichrist..saying 'dey not even da real xtians tho'
the bolsheviks massacred 40m christians
yet you said 'they werent real christians' and that was it..that was your contribution to the topic.
says it all.
 





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1) the bible uses a lot of sexual language....so i'm probably more true to the bible than you are LOL.
2) The trinitarian doctrine is very specific, it states that the holy spirit and son, are co equals with The Father in GODHEAD!!
The quote you gave, along with many others blatantly provides a heirarchy where the holy spirit has 'nothing' on the Son..'he takes from me'. Just as Jesus said that the SON can do NOTHING without THE FATHER.
So you are following a bs doctrine....that ironically comes from the CATHOLIC CHURCH...and you call them pagans, so wtf are you? seriously im tired of christian bs. you guys have no clue what theology is, you just make it up as you go along, constantly contradicting yourselves.
3) christians/europeans are the real murderers of jews...whether the Holocaust was real or not, the massacre of jews is from your people..not muslims. Like i said before, something you chose to purposely and deceipfully ignore here, is that jews lived with muslims for the majority of islam's history..and only exist because islam saved them in a time when the byzantines were killing them with the intent to wipe them out completely (in revenge for the jewish revolt against heraclius and for murdering christians).
Israel is a european/christian colonial project..that's why the BRITISH gave palestine to jews. The arabs fought against and remain fighting against the colonial machine. The colonial machine, is ROME (the feet of iron and clay). The colonial powers were all former roman colonies and christian, this connects with Revelation 6, the whire horse conquering.
The red horse represents DEATH..and the consequence of colonialism ws WAR.
However it is still deeply offensive for you to masturbate over the holocoast but forget that 40m CHRISTIANS were murdered by bolshevik jews.
You cant use the Holocaust to buy sympathy for jews, when they killed that many christians in another place.
i dont use the sins of some people, against the majority..eg i dont believe the german/polish jews deserved to die because of the sins of russian jews...but i do believe it was a consequence of bolshevism and the control jews had over germans in germany. This isnt a justification, but at the very least, a reason behind it.
You were using the holocoast to deny the wealth of elite jews and their power. Yet, the jewish bankers/rothschilds or the bolsheviks are a seperate story. Israel is owned by the house of Rothschild and former soviet jews.
4) actually, the Quran too, in surah 17, states that the ISRAELITES will return there near the end of time (messianic israel).
There is no denying messianic israel..i believe in it as much if not more than you.
The problem is, Revelation 11 also tells us about the antichrist...
The NT tells us the antichrist will stand in the temple..
there is no temple there yet. The third temple will be built by israelites.
Zechariah 11 tells us the worthless shepherd will rule the land..and will betray his people.
Revelation tells us the antichrist will hate the prostitute and bring her to ruin.
Rev 11 also calls jerusalem 'the city figurately known as Sodom and egypt'

Messianic israel will be a land without borders, walls, weapons etc. Ezekiel 38 tells us when they return, there will be no borders/walls/weapons etc and Gog & Magog will attack them etc.
So to me it is crystal clear that current israel, which is owned by the rothschilds, hosts gay parade in jerusalem and has masonic/illuminati symbolism all over it (inc the pyramids), this is UNGODLY and part of the antichrist deception.
I suspect israel is a decoy created by the beast system (christian european)..
as it says in Revelation, that the whore will ride the beast..and the beast will hate her and destroy her when it reaches it's destinatin. So jews are being used by the BEAST/Rome and the antichrist will be the cause of Israel's destruction...
the trick is that he will play the role of saviour by destroying the economic/political system and introdicing a global system.
You can see the right wing pro nationalism movements all over the world. this is planned.

You dont know shit lisa, you are delusional and once again lack the ability to draw from scripture on this stuff.
I have also proven to you that jews have 'returned' in the past, and yet were kicked out...
returning doesnt make it messianic. jews have lived in the holy land for the past 1400 yrs. They didn't 'return', they were already there.
the people who arrived there are ashkenazi jews, they are not real jews. Everyone knows they are khazarian jews, part of gog and magog.

5)
israel murders family members and destroys homes. you dont know their thoughts whilst they throw stones. there are brothers and fathers murdered...
if my father was murdered by a foreign occupier, throwing stones as a last resort would be an act of bravery..
fyi...palestinians arent just muslim, they are christian too. 6% are christian and in fact there are many examples of christian palestinians struggling with muslims when they've been invaded by the IDF.
do some fking research please, im sick to death of your willfull ignorance.

6) again, no justification for the holocoast, but an understanding the environment at that time is necessary to understand why someone like hitler rose to power and why the holocoast happened.
the bolshevik revolution in russia, massacred germans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
there would be no hitler if germany wasnt being raped by jews economically from the west too (france, britain, usa). it was bankrupt.
read about the Treaty of Versailles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles

7)
if christians were persecuted by the antichrist next year, you would be on the side of the antichrist..saying 'dey not even da real xtians tho'
the bolsheviks massacred 40m christians
yet you said 'they werent real christians' and that was it..that was your contribution to the topic.
says it all.
1.) No, you aren’t more true to the Bible because you talk filthily about woman. You may be true to your prophet and your god..but you aren’t true to Christianity to speak like that. I was watching this video and thought of you..

2.) Catholics are pagan’s and that verse does link the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as does..
John‬ ‭1:1-4, 14‬ ‭
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.

And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1-2‬ ‭
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.​
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Genesis‬ ‭1:26‬ ‭
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

3.) The holocaust was real..
https://www.thoughtco.com/biography-of-corrie-ten-boom-4164625
http://www.hitlershell.com

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries

Sorry, the Jews aren’t the killers of Christians or anyone..they barely keep their own land and were wanderers on the earth after Jerusalem was conquered until 1948.

4.) I actually know quite a bit. The temple institute seems to think its going to build another temple..
https://www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm#top-header

5.) You showed a picture of a young child throwing stones at a tank...where is that child’s parents..and why wouldn’t they stop him from doing something that could get him killed or seriously hurt? Why don’t they protect their children? That is all I see when I look at that picture.

They probably are catholics not actual Christians...but I don’t think they are sending their kids out to get killed...

6.) Ya, I know about why Hitler rose to power..but why did he find it necessary to gather up Jews and not just in Germany to have them killed off? That was quite sick really. And how did the German people not know what he was up to?

7.) The bolsheviks were atheists.
The Soviet Union was established by the Bolsheviks in 1922, in place of the Russian Empire. At the time of the 1917 Revolution, the Russian Orthodox Church was deeply integrated into the autocratic state, enjoying official status. This was a significant factor that contributed to the Bolshevik attitude to religion and the steps they took to control it.[1] Thus the USSR became the first state to have as one objective of its official ideology the elimination of existing religion, and the prevention of future implanting of religious belief, with the goal of establishing state atheism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union

The antichrist won’t be here next year though...

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1.) No, you aren’t more true to the Bible because you talk filthily about woman. You may be true to your prophet and your god..but you aren’t true to Christianity to speak like that. I was watching this video and thought of you..

2.) Catholics are pagan’s and that verse does link the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as does..
John‬ ‭1:1-4, 14‬ ‭​

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.​


And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.​


‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1-2‬ ‭​

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.​
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Genesis‬ ‭1:26‬ ‭​

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.​


3.) The holocaust was real..
https://www.thoughtco.com/biography-of-corrie-ten-boom-4164625
http://www.hitlershell.com

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries

Sorry, the Jews aren’t the killers of Christians or anyone..they barely keep their own land and were wanderers on the earth after Jerusalem was conquered until 1948.

4.) I actually know quite a bit. The temple institute seems to think its going to build another temple..
https://www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm#top-header

5.) You showed a picture of a young child throwing stones at a tank...where is that child’s parents..and why wouldn’t they stop him from doing something that could get him killed or seriously hurt? Why don’t they protect their children? That is all I see when I look at that picture.

They probably are catholics not actual Christians...but I don’t think they are sending their kids out to get killed...

6.) Ya, I know about why Hitler rose to power..but why did he find it necessary to gather up Jews and not just in Germany to have them killed off? That was quite sick really. And how did the German people not know what he was up to?

7.) The bolsheviks were atheists.
The Soviet Union was established by the Bolsheviks in 1922, in place of the Russian Empire. At the time of the 1917 Revolution, the Russian Orthodox Church was deeply integrated into the autocratic state, enjoying official status. This was a significant factor that contributed to the Bolshevik attitude to religion and the steps they took to control it.[1] Thus the USSR became the first state to have as one objective of its official ideology the elimination of existing religion, and the prevention of future implanting of religious belief, with the goal of establishing state atheism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union

The antichrist won’t be here next year though...

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1) nothing wrong with lust at all..it's natural...and that video you posted is just empty trolling.
it is typical faux christian trolling when the bible is full of sexual references. That's why i laugh at faux christians and their fake hypocrisy. The act of sex isnt even remotely wrong. Lust is good, without lust none of us would be born.
Where it is wrong, is when it is abused.
in practice you guys are the kings of sexual promiscuity and perversion.
islam is not a religion that paints us as saints..it paints us as sinners...whilst also reminding us that Allah is ALL MERCIFUL AND ALL FORGIVING!!
The bible says the same. God is not harsh.
Faux christians on the other hand just project evil onto others...because it is an inherent evil of their own.
That's why you have transexual problems and the rest of the world is forced to submit to your way of life.

2) again, the trinitarian doctrine states that the holy spirit is co equal with The Son and with The Father.
YOU don't really believe that anyway..since in john 16 Jesus blatantly said that the holy spirit 'takes' from the son..and has nothing of his own...and Jesus said the same about the Son with regards to the Father.
So your doctrine totally pisses on the NT, it betrays it completely. It is a clear cut roman pagan doctrine that misinterprets the NT.

3) when the hell did i deny the holocoast?
stick to the context here...i spoke about the massacre of 40m christians.
as for 'jews didnt kill anyone'
Jesus said "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
yet again i have exposed you as a faux christian.

when christianity began, jews massacred christians.
When jews revolted against Heraclius and established the jewish-sassanian commonwealth state...they massacred christians.
When christians took it back, they decided to wipe out the jews once and for all, then islam came and saved jews.
Umar RA, the second caliph of islam, conquered jerusalem..
the christians told him "please promise to never let jews step foot on the holy land"
and Umar allowed Jews to return.
jews have lived in jerusalem ever since...probably not after the first crusade, but def after the second crusade.

you have created your own fake history..whereas i know the real history far better than you.
even the jews have no problem being open about the real history

jewish website
https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/so-what-did-the-muslims-do-for-the-jews-1.33597
So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?

Islam saved Jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth. The argument for it is double. First, in 570 CE, when the Prophet Mohammad was born, the Jews and Judaism were on the way to oblivion. And second, the coming of Islam saved them, providing a new context in which they not only survived, but flourished, laying foundations for subsequent Jewish cultural prosperity - also in Christendom - through the medieval period into the modern world.

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4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.


Zechariah 11
15 Then the Lord said to me, “Take again the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16 For I am going to raise up a shepherd over the land who will not care for the lost, or seek the young, or heal the injured, or feed the healthy, but will eat the meat of the choice sheep, tearing off their hooves.


17 “Woe to the worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!
May the sword strike his arm and his right eye!
May his arm be completely withered,
his right eye totally blinded!”


Revelation 11
the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial.


13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

these events havent been fulfilled yet...so what does this say about israel?
remember, gay parade and masonic symbolism
not just any symbolism
but THIS





the eye or horus/ra is associated with the sun-god..which is called the 'solar logos' by masons..and is the diety they worship...satan.

Here's what the Quran says about sun-worship in the past
(5) I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of Allah; and Satan maketh their works fairseeming unto them, and debarreth them from the way (of Truth), so that they go not aright;
(سورة النمل, An-Naml, Chapter #27, Verse #24)


here's what islam believes about the false messiah/antichrist
(1) Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape.

this matches Zechariah 11.
muslims oppose the building of the third temple..israel wants it..and therefore you want it.

once again, it's clear you're on the sun-god/satan worshipping or athiestic, gay parade celebrating 'we want to build a third temple' side that's building it for the antichrist.
you clearly aren't on the side of Truth.

5) i forgot to actually emphasise this point
why are IDF killing kids armed with stones? wtf are tanks doing there in the first place?

YOU don't know where their parents are or what they've taught their kids. you just dont know..you are guessing and generalising..but what we do know is that grown men (and women) point their tanks at kids with stones...

that is who YOU support.

6) when bolsheviks were massacring germans/poles on the western front...look at a map, germans was the closest to soviet territories..they suffered heavily on their eastern border..they were being massacred every day..
so yeh, they fought back..
the holocoast was evil..but it was within the context of the bolshevik revolution, something you never mentioned until i did.
you are seriously flawed beyond belief to not understand this

after the treaty of versailles, germany went bankrupt. The Rhineland's (the industrial, wealthiest part of germany) was taken over by the french/british (jews). The country suffered economic collapse to the point where germans were living off potatoe peels..
all whilst being massacred by jewish bolsheviks.

7) bolsheviks were ethnically jewish. many israelis are in fact athiest...
athiesm was just the narrative they used...
the plan was to massacre christians and bankrupt the nation

if you have a heart at all, you would consider the poverty russians experienced and still experience because of communism...a jewish conspiracy from day dot.
russia was ridicilously wealthy before that.

let me give you an example
did you know that the British east india trading company was co-owned by House ROTHSCHILD????
did you know that the british east india trading company looted $45 trillion worth (in todays money) from India?

so when i talk about the wealth behind israel..and how the rothschild's own israel and how the soviet era jewish billionaires live in israel...
to me that is UNGODLY
in fact, honestly...as a muslim when i read about the massacres of 40m christians, regardless of any religion...it is shocking beyond belief
and it makes perfect sense why in Revelation it says

Your merchants were the world’s important people.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”


go look at the wealthiest people in the world, majority are jewish.
'magic spell' (think of hollywood, tv, media, music..and even porn, jew owned)
blood of prophets and God's holy people...that was the jews (Jesus said so)
ALL who have been slaughtered on earth....
when you think of the bolshevik revolution and the consequences of that...mao's atrocities..the looting of india and all the deaths that came from it, right down to the partition and present day india vs pakistan which could turn nuclear. colonialism itself was heavily financed by the rothschilds, it is a fact...eg they did own the East india trading company which owned india and china.
even the holocoast is because of them...the contexts that led to it that is.

present day..
for example, syria and iraq? egypt next..
this is all about the creation of 'greater israel' albeit the unmessianic antichrist version.

how blind are you lisa? seriously..
just think about it..

the bible tells us the messianic kingdom will be a land without borders, walls, weapons etc.
etc.
then you have gay parade and clear cut masonic symbolism all over it.
it's owned by the house of rothschild, if you're unsure, here is the balfour declaration


who's name is that?

this is the house of rothschild
https://ronaldwederfoort.wordpress....s-that-of-worlds-top-8-billionaires-combined/
read uip on them, this is a christian website


this is who owns israel.

hence
'the synagogue of satan'

how on earth can you not see this? again..how blind are you?
you have to be completely lost to still not only support israel in a secular sense, but actually think it is a messianic kingdom.
you think Jesus is with these people?

fyi im aware that one day a REMNANT will follow Jesus...but you do not know who the remnant is, if even they live in israel. they only need to be bloodline jews who are chosen by God.

furthermore, i am not a jew hater at all...i cant be because the old testament is a book i not only believe in, but i even admire jews like the Macabees. Jesus and the apostles were jewish.

here are some verses from the Quran

(4) O you who believe! Be you helpers (in the Cause) of Allah as said 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), to the Hawariyyun (the disciples): "Who are my helpers (in the Cause) of Allah?" The Hawariyyun (the disciples) said: "We are Allah's helpers" (i.e. we will strive in His Cause!). Then a group of the Children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious (uppermost).
(سورة الصف, As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #14)


just think about this..
there were many jews who became christian, who werent killed..who raised families
where are they today? where are the bloodlines? God knows..in fact even palestinians have jewish blood in them.
So you dont know who the real remnant is...but they will be persecuted for real...and there is no way God has them on the antichrist side.

(4) And We said unto the Children of israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.
(سورة الإسراء, Al-Israa, Chapter #17, Verse #104)


This is the real messianic kingdom..it wont only be jews, but the 10 lost tribes too. it will be complete...the 'nation of israel' not just the jews..

you can attempt to diss islam but you have zero chance. islam is in line with the real biblical message on all of this.
everything i say about israel today is influenced largely by the bible, by the book of revelation, zechariah, Ezekiel etc.

best of luck to you on your worship of israel though..
 





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1.) I wasn’t trolling..I thought the man made some good points especially how men should behave around women...I was hoping you’d get the hint, guess not.

muslims don’t have all the problems the rest of the world has...I doubt that!! Lol! Its the Bible that talks about us being sinners so Christians know everyone is a sin..no projection needed.

2.) I do believe that the Holy Spirit is co-equal with the Father and the Son, otherwise why would Jesus tell us to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

3.)You said this...
whether the Holocaust was real or not,
4.) Just because some end times events haven’t happened yet..doesn’t mean they won’t..you do know about the birthing pains?

I clearly say that the Jews that are in the land are non believers. But that won’t stop them from building a third temple..in fact its in their favor that they will want a third temple...as non believers they are sinners.

5.) I guess we look at that picture totally differently. Since the child is more mobile..he’s the one that is there trying to attack the tank with his stones. His parents should parent him and not let him be in that position. No one thinks a kid with a stone can win against an armed tank..so what does that kid really think he is doing? He’s not actually defending himself..that would be running away.

6.) I agree that the treaty that came down hard on Germany was the cause for the rise of Hitler..but I don’t agree that the Bolshevik’s were anything other than hateful atheists.

7.) The communists wanted to take over and run the country without a king and bring in atheism.

Perhaps you should just blame the Rothchild’s not all Jews?

Whether or not Israel is owned by some evil “Jew” they are still there because of prophecy..God brought them back into the land at the correct time to be a part of the prophecy that the Bible says will happen in the end times, which is the Jews will inhabit their land again. And we see that has happened. They won’t be believers since they will want to build a temple..and we see that too.

I don’t worship Israel, but I understand their role in the end times prophecies from the Bible, where you clearly don’t.
 





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1.) I wasn’t trolling..I thought the man made some good points especially how men should behave around women...I was hoping you’d get the hint, guess not.

muslims don’t have all the problems the rest of the world has...I doubt that!! Lol! Its the Bible that talks about us being sinners so Christians know everyone is a sin..no projection needed.

2.) I do believe that the Holy Spirit is co-equal with the Father and the Son, otherwise why would Jesus tell us to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

3.)You said this...


4.) Just because some end times events haven’t happened yet..doesn’t mean they won’t..you do know about the birthing pains?

I clearly say that the Jews that are in the land are non believers. But that won’t stop them from building a third temple..in fact its in their favor that they will want a third temple...as non believers they are sinners.

5.) I guess we look at that picture totally differently. Since the child is more mobile..he’s the one that is there trying to attack the tank with his stones. His parents should parent him and not let him be in that position. No one thinks a kid with a stone can win against an armed tank..so what does that kid really think he is doing? He’s not actually defending himself..that would be running away.

6.) I agree that the treaty that came down hard on Germany was the cause for the rise of Hitler..but I don’t agree that the Bolshevik’s were anything other than hateful atheists.

7.) The communists wanted to take over and run the country without a king and bring in atheism.

Perhaps you should just blame the Rothchild’s not all Jews?

Whether or not Israel is owned by some evil “Jew” they are still there because of prophecy..God brought them back into the land at the correct time to be a part of the prophecy that the Bible says will happen in the end times, which is the Jews will inhabit their land again. And we see that has happened. They won’t be believers since they will want to build a temple..and we see that too.

I don’t worship Israel, but I understand their role in the end times prophecies from the Bible, where you clearly don’t.

1)
Christians believe they are saved by Jesus already.
Muslims acknoledge our sin..
for me it isnt even about that..seriously..

when you saw tanks pointing at children, your response was "why are the children throwing stones at tanks? don't their parents tell them off?"
you didnt question the ones controlling the tanks..you didnt question why kids would even need to throw stones at TANKS.
tanks are sent to destroy homes and kill people..
kids throwing stones is the last line of defense. that's when they've accepted their fate and only want to display defiance.
you are purposely ignoring the murders committed by the IDF in plain sight, caught on camera, for decades.

to me, you're pretty fking unbelievably evil to see things in this way.
dumb deaf and blind.

2) being baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit, doesnt mean they are coequals in Godhead.
furthermore, you could have just considered related verses in the Gospel's which clearly prove the Son is not co equal with the Father..and the Holy spirit is not co equal with the Son.
why are you pretending? you know im right here lol.

3) my argument is built around the premise that the holocoast happened and was real. it is not a problem for me if it was real, if anything it supports my wider argument about jewish bolshevik atrocities against german and polish people.
for that reason, you didnt need to pull up the argument that 'it was real' against me.
however that doesnt mean that the possibility of it being a hoax isnt there.
afterall it says in Rev 18 that the 'by her magic spell the world was intoxicated' and jews control most of the news, tv channels and movies..
your links dont convince me of anything. they arent credible sources.

4) you know full well from Zecheriah 11, that the worthless/foolish shepherd willb e JEWISH.
the SHEPHERD is a reference to messiah..
so there are 2 messiahs..
the true one (Jesus) and the false one (the worthless shepherd). As per zech 11, the jews rejected Jesus so are given a false shepherd who will abandon them.
as it says in Rev 17, the beast will hate the prostitute and bring her to ruin.

"16 For I am going to raise up a shepherd over the land"
this means he will be jewish.

17 “Woe to the worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!


if the antichrist is non-jewish then he is not a shepherd and likewise the jews cant be his flock.

you didnt think this through did you?

5) Since the child is more mobile..he’s the one that is there trying to attack the tank with his stones.
lmfao a tank cant be hurt by stones. the tank driver doesnt need to charge at kids with stones.
you know what it takes to destroy a tank?

6) most of the bolshevik party, were ethnic jews..
how did that just happen?
they were part of the bigger Menshevik party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks
see the list of people on the right, click on them, most are jewish
do the same with the Bolsheviks
you say they were athiests..so? 40% of jews in israel are athiest.
the fact remains bolsheviks massacred 40m orthodox christians..and they were ethnic jews? you mean that isnt suspect at all?

in the context, im only talking about bolshevism in relation to the holocoast which you cite as the perfect reason why israel was formed..
you tried to use the holocoast card, but i dont buy that at all..
israel was bankrolled on one side by britain and house rothschild..and the other supported by bolsheviks..and that's why the inheritors of russia's wealth are billionaires in israel.

7)
you SUPPORT israel though.
im one of those people who believes in messianic israel...and what i have read in the bible, it is an ideal that is unmatched...a land that has GOD as it's sole protector, the Shekinah..that will once again protect israel like it did once before.
it will be a land with no borders, no walls, no weapons

so when i see a state that calls itself israel..and yet it has a satanic symbol on it's flag...has gay parade, satanic symbolism all over, ruled by house Rothschild, with post-bolshevik jewish billionaires
i know that isnt at all Godly..it is the total opposite, it is satanic.

you use prophecy in ignorance. in your mind, you have always thought israel was unique, that there was never anything like it before
yet i showed you that not only have jews lived in palestine throughout the history of islam, i even proved that islam 'saved jews from extinction' and even showed you a jewish link that says that..so it isnt coming from me.
I told you about history you never knew existed, such as the jewish-sassinian commonwealth state of the 7th century.

fact is jews were always there..
it is only that you associate jews with your own skin complexition, therefore hate the brown skinned palestinians who have jewish blood in them...yet cant get past supporting the white jews..even though they are ashkenazi gog and magog jews.

before Jesus, there is the false messiah, who is JEWISH...that is who you're supporting.
 





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1.) No, you aren’t more true to the Bible because you talk filthily about woman. You may be true to your prophet and your god..but you aren’t true to Christianity to speak like that. I was watching this video and thought of you..

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The Arabs are your cousins. Have a good look at the above picture https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/british-israelism.6680/page-4#post-250939

The counterfeit "Jew" leadership (Rev. 2:9 3:9) has done a marvelous job of conning the west, about who they really are, via the evangelical churches and other.
 





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1)
Christians believe they are saved by Jesus already.
Muslims acknoledge our sin..
for me it isnt even about that..seriously..

when you saw tanks pointing at children, your response was "why are the children throwing stones at tanks? don't their parents tell them off?"
you didnt question the ones controlling the tanks..you didnt question why kids would even need to throw stones at TANKS.
tanks are sent to destroy homes and kill people..
kids throwing stones is the last line of defense. that's when they've accepted their fate and only want to display defiance.
you are purposely ignoring the murders committed by the IDF in plain sight, caught on camera, for decades.

to me, you're pretty fking unbelievably evil to see things in this way.
dumb deaf and blind.

2) being baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit, doesnt mean they are coequals in Godhead.
furthermore, you could have just considered related verses in the Gospel's which clearly prove the Son is not co equal with the Father..and the Holy spirit is not co equal with the Son.
why are you pretending? you know im right here lol.

3) my argument is built around the premise that the holocoast happened and was real. it is not a problem for me if it was real, if anything it supports my wider argument about jewish bolshevik atrocities against german and polish people.
for that reason, you didnt need to pull up the argument that 'it was real' against me.
however that doesnt mean that the possibility of it being a hoax isnt there.
afterall it says in Rev 18 that the 'by her magic spell the world was intoxicated' and jews control most of the news, tv channels and movies..
your links dont convince me of anything. they arent credible sources.

4) you know full well from Zecheriah 11, that the worthless/foolish shepherd willb e JEWISH.
the SHEPHERD is a reference to messiah..
so there are 2 messiahs..
the true one (Jesus) and the false one (the worthless shepherd). As per zech 11, the jews rejected Jesus so are given a false shepherd who will abandon them.
as it says in Rev 17, the beast will hate the prostitute and bring her to ruin.

"16 For I am going to raise up a shepherd over the land"
this means he will be jewish.

17 “Woe to the worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!


if the antichrist is non-jewish then he is not a shepherd and likewise the jews cant be his flock.

you didnt think this through did you?

5) Since the child is more mobile..he’s the one that is there trying to attack the tank with his stones.
lmfao a tank cant be hurt by stones. the tank driver doesnt need to charge at kids with stones.
you know what it takes to destroy a tank?

6) most of the bolshevik party, were ethnic jews..
how did that just happen?
they were part of the bigger Menshevik party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks
see the list of people on the right, click on them, most are jewish
do the same with the Bolsheviks
you say they were athiests..so? 40% of jews in israel are athiest.
the fact remains bolsheviks massacred 40m orthodox christians..and they were ethnic jews? you mean that isnt suspect at all?

in the context, im only talking about bolshevism in relation to the holocoast which you cite as the perfect reason why israel was formed..
you tried to use the holocoast card, but i dont buy that at all..
israel was bankrolled on one side by britain and house rothschild..and the other supported by bolsheviks..and that's why the inheritors of russia's wealth are billionaires in israel.

7)
you SUPPORT israel though.
im one of those people who believes in messianic israel...and what i have read in the bible, it is an ideal that is unmatched...a land that has GOD as it's sole protector, the Shekinah..that will once again protect israel like it did once before.
it will be a land with no borders, no walls, no weapons

so when i see a state that calls itself israel..and yet it has a satanic symbol on it's flag...has gay parade, satanic symbolism all over, ruled by house Rothschild, with post-bolshevik jewish billionaires
i know that isnt at all Godly..it is the total opposite, it is satanic.

you use prophecy in ignorance. in your mind, you have always thought israel was unique, that there was never anything like it before
yet i showed you that not only have jews lived in palestine throughout the history of islam, i even proved that islam 'saved jews from extinction' and even showed you a jewish link that says that..so it isnt coming from me.
I told you about history you never knew existed, such as the jewish-sassinian commonwealth state of the 7th century.

fact is jews were always there..
it is only that you associate jews with your own skin complexition, therefore hate the brown skinned palestinians who have jewish blood in them...yet cant get past supporting the white jews..even though they are ashkenazi gog and magog jews.

before Jesus, there is the false messiah, who is JEWISH...that is who you're supporting.
1.) Why do children need to get involved in adult things and aren’t shielded from that by their parents?
Kids throwing stones is no defense..just a pathetic photo op...

2.) No, you are totally wrong here..if the Holy Spirit wasn’t a co equal the verse would say baptize in the name of the Father and Son..but it doesn’t, it adds the Holy Spirit...the trinity.

3.) You’re the one that questioned if it was real..I was just trying to show you that there is no question..the holocaust was real!
What a shock...my sources..both women who went through the holocaust, one a Jew and one a Christian aren’t credible to you? The Jewish lady just died either this year or last too.

4.) Doesn’t sound like a Jew to me..
Daniel‬ ‭9:26‬ ‭
Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
‭‭5.) Right..the tank can’t be hurt by stones..so why is the child throwing stones at it? Photo op anyone?

6.) Isn‘t the holocaust the reason the Jews were given their own land? A place to finally be safe in this world? Amazing that its also the land that God gave to them and they didn’t turn it down being in the middle of all their enemies..

7.) I don’t see how I support them...I just don’t hate them and maybe that‘s the same thing in your eyes.

Sounds like your talking about the millennium..its a time to come.

And again..I acknowledge that they aren’t following God..so I wonder why you keep bringing it up?

I don’t ’use‘ prophecy in ignorance..I have studied the Bible about the end times most of my life.

I just believe that they are God’s chosen people..I don’t think thinking them unique had anything to do with it.

I thought the muslims said that the Arabs were always there and not the Jews?

I think you confuse what the quran says about the end times with what the Bible says about them and you are off on your speculations.
 





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The Holy Spirit is NOT some third character in an overtly pagan 3=1 deity, as the Roman Catholics teach. The Holy Spirit is our spiritual connection to Father, i.e. our hotline to The Almighty (YHWH, the "I AM", aka God/Allah - The King Ruler of the Universe and our Creator).

THROUGH the Holy Spirit, each of us can receive guidance directly from Father every step of The Way , in every situation, to separate the truth from the lies.

Organized religion of every kind MIXES a bit of truth in with a bunch of lies, and then sells that confusion to its unwitting(?) followers for profit. It's the same thing that Satan has been doing since the Garden, when he conned Eve into eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good AND evil, and we've been dying ever since in confusion between what is right/good and what is wrong/evil. That's why Christ called the leaders of every organized religion, including Christianity, "the blind leading the blind".

Would counterfeit "Jews" murder other counterfeit "Jews"? Of course they would. They've been doing it for centuries.

"Thus craftily inspired and coached by his financial-advisers, the Warburgs, the Rothschilds, and all the Illuminati masterminds; he blamed the Jews for the hated "Versailles Treaty" and for the financial ruination that followed the war. The rest is history. We know all about the Hitler concentration-camps and the incineration of hundred of thousands of Jews. Not the 6,000,000 nor even the 600,000 claimed by the conspirators; but it was enough. And here let me reiterate how little the internationalist bankers, the Rothschilds, Schiffs, Lehmans, Warburgs, Barouks, cared about their racial brethren who were the victims of their nefarious schemes. In their eyes; the slaughter of the several hundred thousand innocent Jews by Hitler didn't bother them at all. They considered it a necessary sacrifice to further their Illuminati one-world plot just as the slaughter of the many millions in the wars that followed was a similar necessary sacrifice. And here is another grisly detail about those concentration-camps. Many of the Hitler soldier-executioners in those camps had previously been sent to Russia to acquire their arts of torture and brutalization so as to emphasize the horrors of the atrocities."

- Myron C. Fagan from "THE ILLUMINATI AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS"

And would counterfeit "Jews" murder REAL Jews? Of course they would. It's job #1 for the counterfeit "Jews" (them that say they are jews, but are NOT - Rev. 2:9, 3:9), to eliminate TRUE Israel - the British and American people.

EVERYTHING about the Ashkenazis is counterfeit, including their false, Zionist claim to be Biblical Jews and Semites. They are, as their name clearly states, descended from ASHKENAZ, the grandson of Noah's son Japheth (through Japheth's son Gomer), NOT Noah's son Shem/Sem. So the AshkeNAZIS are Japhethites, NOT Semites and thus have NO Biblical right to one-inch of the land of Israel, that they've stolen by fraud from TRUE Israel,with their Rothschild sponsored and co-authored Balfour Declaration, to set up their counterfeit-Jewish state. The same state that Adolf Hitler was the mid-wife of, because, without him and their scam, there would be no counterfeit-Jewish state in the land of Israel today.

It is also why they are acting like the Nazis did in Germany towards the Palestinians in Palestine, because they are AshkeNAZIS and it’s in their evil Zionist nature.

So their incapacitating slur of “anti-semitism” is a complete load of nonsense and a bare-faced LIE, because it is the AshkeNAZIS that are anti-semitic – just think about what they're doing to the Palestinians, who are real Semites. The Ashkenazis absolutely HATE TRUE Israel, the British and Anglo-Saxon Americans, all of whom are likewise Semites, and thus have set out to enslave and destroy both nations through their banksterism and murderous war profiteering.

Because of the corruption of Christ's teachings by the so-called Christian religions, nothing has changed, except for the worse. It was the predecessors of the Illuminati in the Sanhedrin that had Jesus the Nazarite, the revolutionary, crucified.

Stop listening to the "blind guides" of organized religion, and start doing your own research. There is a mountain of evidence, both physical and scriptural, to confirm to those who genuinely love the truth not only who the Israelite people are, but where they are today.
 





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Then why did some Germans become nazi’s?
Good question.

Probably duped, just like the west has been duped into thinking that they are gentiles when they are true-Israel. But:

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in "the dust of the earth" (Gen. 13:16; 28:14) shall awake, some to Everlasting Life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.