You misquoted me right at the outset: they want people enforcing the law to also be accountable to that same law. This shouldn’t be a contentious position to hold.
You are right.. Sorry. But I also said, this seems to be a juridical question, not an executive one. I heard people say, this "chokehold" is common practice in the US (or at least in some states). So it would have been reasonable to just wait for the outcome of the process.. if there even was even wrong doing or even racism.
No one ever argued Floyd was innocent. But what he was guilty of wasn’t a capital offense and even if it was cops are not judge jury and executioner. There none of those things..
You are right. And thats one of the things, I admire the most about the united states. In Germany, a cop can accuse you for almost anything, and any refusal to comply will give em more (juridical justifiable) reason to enforce their way.
But nonetheless... this special case doesnt seem to be a justifiable reason for protest against anything else! Like I mentioned before... in Germany some refugees protested (or, like the media put id "had a party") against discrimination. It really boggles my mind, how some people can see racism in everything we (western people) do, but arent able to put themselves to the same standards.
You say there is just "fraction" of protest, which became violent.. fine. But would you say, that these violent fractions are lawless radicals, who should be judged for there spark of unrest and put to the same standards, these "stupid mask deniers" are hold up to?
capitalism needs to be regulated or abandoned. Sorry if that offends you. The way our system is right now to few people benefit at the expense of way too many who suffer.
Well..nowadays this seems to be common ground. I'm used to it and dont know how real capitalism would be like. In fact, nobody from the last few decades knows what real capitalism means.
Every huge enterprise, every bank, every tech giant endorses these kinds of restrictions and "regulations". Because they are hurdles for potential competition. But that also makes me wonder... Werent the US a magnet for immigration, because of that? The american way? What happened? Whats the reason, that makes you abandon this way to success? There was a time, where these ideals were the primary export of the west. This idea, this cultural thing, called individualism. Do you really believe, that russia and china were right, all the way?
I don’t understand how you can attribute police brutality to a judicial problem. Please explain.
Well.. thats pretty straightforward, if the perpetrators dont have to fear consequences, they will behave like "apes in the jungle". It is pretty common, that official functionaries often get away with their crimes. You might take Trump as an example. But I guess, by the same standards, you would get Obama and the Clintons as much as likely.
I believe the last such incident was Rodney King in 1992, which sparked huge protest, just one year after the event occured and the judgement was made. This time, there is outrage without any investigation. Why is that?
Ipeople have been complaining about those structural issues for a very long time, way before trump got the idea to enter politics. No one is blaming him solely or is stupid enough to not realize these issues are long standing. He is being held to account for his contributions only, you’d know that if you turned off the talking heads on tv and actually asked someone.
For slavery? For racism? What did I miss?
I live in germany, and although we are very, very very progressive on such matters, the same narratives are being pressured through our press (and TV, supposably - I stopped watching TV a few years ago). And all of a sudden traffic lights are racist, and everything we believe is a lie... you know, if they said, we (the still white majority) held some prejudices here and there, which should be overcome.. i would be fine with it. But, as this gay writer Douglas Murray put it: They dont want to take part in our society anymore, they want to create a new one.
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Threepwood