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Regarding the Antichrist, let's not make the mistake of thinking he/she is just one person.
Fact is, there are MANY antichrists of various kinds all around us-
"Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour" (1 John 2:18 )

It's a kind of "spiritual sickness" that infects thousands around the world.
"To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled" (Titus 1:15)
"..every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus, is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world" (1 John 4:3)

"Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist, he denies the Father and the Son" (1 John 2:22/3)

Antichrists are everywhere spreading their poison, in politics, science, the Church, the media, films and TV schools and colleges etc-
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist" (2 John 1:7)
Yes..there is an antichrist spirit..but it all ends up in the form of an actual person...its an actual person who exalts himself and takes a seat in the temple of God..the new temple the Jews will be building...not a spirit.

‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
 

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Yes..there is an antichrist spirit..but it all ends up in the form of an actual person...its an actual person who exalts himself and takes a seat in the temple of God..the new temple the Jews will be building...not a spirit.

‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

Whoever the Antichrist and his/her followers will be, Jesus told us how we can spot all Antichrists-
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.You will know them by their fruits... every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit...Therefore by their fruits you'll know them" (Matt 7:15-20)

For example we could say that Obama and Hillary are antichrists for giving Iran permission to build nuclear weapons which might lead to World War 3..
 

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Whoever he/she will be, Jesus told us how we can spot all Antichrists-
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.You will know them by their fruits... every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit...Therefore by their fruits you'll know them" (Matt 7:15-20)

For example we could say that Obama and Hillary are antichrists for giving Iran permission to build nuclear weapons which might lead to World War 3..
Sure..but there is going to be an actual human antichrist that will take over the whole world..he will come from the sea..you know Revelation 13.

Revelation‬ ‭13:1-10‬ ‭​
And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority. I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast; they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?” There was given to him a mouth speaking arrogant words and blasphemies, and authority to act for forty-two months was given to him. And he opened his mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, that is, those who dwell in heaven. It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. If anyone has an ear, let him hear. If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.
 

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Sure..but there is going to be an actual human antichrist that will take over the whole world..he will come from the sea..you know Revelation 13.

Revelation‬ ‭13:1-10‬ ‭​
"And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names.."

Yes, Revelation is full of symbology, metaphor and analogy and is therefore open to wide interpretation and speculation.
For example several nations have submarines capable of firing nuclear missiles from under the sea, here's a typical nose cone of a missile being assembled which contains several nuclear warheads reminiscent of a diadem or crown-

 

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Yes, Revelation is full of symbology, metaphor and analogy and is therefore open to wide interpretation and speculation.
For example several nations have submarines capable of firing nuclear missiles from under the sea.

Its not speculation..there will be a person who will be called the antichrist. We will know exactly who he is when he walks into the third temple...sits in the temple and declares himself God. He will also provide that no one can buy or sell without his name..has to be a person...or the number of his name 666 on the right hand or forehead. He will also overcome and kill Christians...by beheading them.

Revelation‬ ‭13:7‬
It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

Revelation‬ ‭20:4‬ ‭
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
 

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Its not speculation..there will be a person who will be called the antichrist. We will know exactly who he is when he walks into the third temple...sits in the temple and declares himself God..

Ah, but the "temple" could also be the human mind, and the antichrist could be satan..:)
We know he's already walked into empty nonchristian heads to bend their wills to his, that's why the world is a mess because he's using them as ventriloquist's dummies and puppets-

Jesus said- "When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it.
Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.'
When it arrives, it finds the house empty, swept clean and put in order.
Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there" (Matt 12:43-45)

 

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Ah, but the "temple" could also be the human mind, and the antichrist could be satan..:)
We know he's already walked into empty nonchristian heads to bend their wills to his, that's why the world is a mess because he's using them as ventriloquist's dummies and puppets-

Jesus said- "When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it.
Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.'
When it arrives, it finds the house empty, swept clean and put in order.
Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there" (Matt 12:43-45)
There will be an actual temple with actual sacrifices...and an actual antichrist who makes a from covenant with many.
Daniel‬ ‭9:27‬ ‭
And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.
 

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The beast from the sea looks like a leopard... with feet like a bear and mouth like a lion.

These are three world powers coming together into one world power...


Study the description of these beasts in Daniel 7 and understand that the lion is the british empire and the bear is the russian empire and the leopard is the german empire... and they all lost their empire as the vision says but these three make up the beast from the sea.

As an interesting note during WW1 the kings of these three world powers were cousins. Family.
 

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You've probably heard a lot of bible scholars say that the coming new world order is the revived Roman empire... or something like that.

Yes it is... but what they didn't tell you or they don't know... is that the Roman empire was revived as the holy Roman empire and revived again as the German empire and revived again as the Third reich... and will be revived again as the revived Third reich.

Look the leopard got 4 heads... the holy Roman empire and the German empire and the Third reich and the Fourth reich.


Will you be utterly amazed if you see the Third reich revived ?
 

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You've probably heard a lot of bible scholars say that the coming new world order is the revived Roman empire... or something like that.

Yes it is... but what they didn't tell you or they don't know... is that the Roman empire was revived as the holy Roman empire and revived again as the German empire and revived again as the Third reich... and will be revived again as the revived Third reich.

Look the leopard got 4 heads... the holy Roman empire and the German empire and the Third reich and the Fourth reich.


Will you be utterly amazed if you see the Third reich revived ?
The holy Roman empire divided..
The pope and the patriarch
 

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So what about the ten horns or ten toes ?

Ten kings without kingdoms... who hate the harlot who reigns over the kings of the earth and will burn her and so reign for one hour with the beast from the sea instead.

Who can make any sense of this ?
 

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So what about the ten horns or ten toes ?
Ten kings without kingdoms... who hate the harlot who reigns over the kings of the earth and will burn her and so reign for one hour with the beast from the sea instead.
Who can make any sense of this ?

Nobody can mate, but it's fun making guesses..:)
Revelation is a weird book, it begins fairly normally with God telling John to get in touch with various church groups to tell them to shape up, but then it's as if God says to John "while I'm here let me just run some scenes from the future past you to show you what's in store for this planet".
John of course can't put into human words what he's being shown, but he nevertheless has a shot at it.
 

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The ten horns or ten toes that is ten kings without kingdoms... will work for the beast and burn the great city which reigns over the kings of the world.

Who reigns over the kings of the world today ? That's right... the United Nations. Where is the UN hq ? That's right. New York City.
 

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Why has US governments for so long neglected the US ?

Well it's gonna burn that's why and they know it.
 

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Who's the Christ ?

Dan 9 25“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks;"



The Christ comes after seven 7-year cycle pluss sixty-two 7-year cycle... counting from the word to restore and build Jerusalem.


Jerusalem was still in ruins when king Artaxerxes of Persia on Nisan in his 20th year gave Nehemiah permission to rebuild it.

So the Christ comes 7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks counting from Nisan 444 BC... which completes on Nisan 33 AD.


The Christ is the one who rides into Jerusalem on a donkey on Nisan 33 AD to be cut off.
 

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Who's the Antichrist ?

Dan 26And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;



The Antichrist comes after seven 7-year cycle... counting from the word to restore and build Jerusalem.


Jerusalem was still in muslim control when the israeli general staff during the Six Day war on June 7 1967 ordered it restored to jewish control.

So the Antichrist comes 7x360 weeks counting from June 7 1967... which completes on Sept 23 2015 the Day of Atonement.


The Antichrist is the one who in his own name confirms a covenant with many after Sept 23 2015.





Thank you for your kind words. Once again, following a tradition by which I feel honored, the Secretary General of the United Nations has invited the Pope to address this distinguished assembly of nations. In my own name, and that of the entire Catholic community, I wish to express to you, Mr Ban Ki-moon, my heartfelt gratitude.

The adoption of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development at the World Summit, which opens today, is an important sign of hope.


 

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2 Thess 2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.



This man of sin is not God.

He is not God nor is he sitting in the temple of God.


But it is as if he is God sitting in the temple of God.



Do you understand the difference ?
 

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Luke 21 20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.



Jesus foretold that the jews would be led away captive into all nations... but he also foretold that the gentiles would not control and trample Jerusalem forever...

When the times of the gentiles were fulfilled... then the jews would get Jerusalem back.


In hindsight we see that the great apostasy or falling away coincided with the jewish restoration of Jerusalem.
 

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Just half a century ago we were still upholding the Ten Commandments... the times have truly changed.


Now if you're not a queer... your not getting anywhere. And abortion is not only approved but recommended.

It's as if God just left us to our own desire and demise...



Does anybody know any christian anymore who uphold God's law ?
 
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