Because Jonghyun deserved better.

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Hi, sorry for bothering you, i'm a silentreader in VC.. and i really love music and have a lot passion for music,and really like music from my country also from western country,so i learned to play many instrumments like Guitar,violin,piano etc,but then i found music this day sound completely different from music in the past and the lyrics are sound so creepy and more open to sensual, so i start to lost passion to play instrument or singing.then i try to start listen some various music from other countries like korea,japan and china cause i think they are not into bad things but i think, they are the same like in my country and in western,but i dont mind it,cause i dont really understand what they said and just like the instrument.i start to like one ok rock, utada hikaru,leslie chang,michael wong,akb48 etc,then i try to found out about the best vocal in kpop and jonghyun was one of male singer that stand out cause he has vocal that almost similiar to MJ and have the most powerful vocal in kpop (in my opinion) as for female singer teyon,aile,hyorin,and boa become my favorite female singer,so i try to found out about him and i'm really enjoying Jonghyun music and just start hearing his music in december last year cause his music has various genre and vibe like R&B,Funky,soul,EDM and Jazz and he has wide vocal and can sang in some various genre too like rock,pop, and ballad. at first, i didn't knew,so i was shocked when i found out that he is already passed away in 2017.and quetioned why such a talented person like him would commited suicide? and i also found something strange with his suicide accident,so i'm starting to find evidence that could explain all things and then i found this forum from comment on YT and starting jump to conclusion for many singer who were in 27 club and the other famous singer and celebrities,so i've decided to made this account. and maybe have you ever heared rumors about singer like MJ,Tupac,Kurt cobain,elvis presley,etc that are faked their death cause they are tired being famous or maybe cause they are part of ocult and can't hide or hold anymore about ocult agenda so they(ocult)cuted them off..i'm just really curios about many things about ocult also about Jonghyun death cause and wanna try to find more evidences cause he also can fake his death but still can write book and produce music and sell it to person through his close friend or family without people(outsider)knowing and can live in other country, so i think maybe in 3 or 5 years later the truth will arise if he faked his death,but if is not ..i think, someone will speak the truth up cause we all know that we as human can't keeping something that always make us feel more burden as we live.and i have view quetion and evidence that i will post later.i hope to be welcoming here and be friends.. i'll introduce myself just for common introduction i'm a Christian and i live in southeast-asian country and it'll such a pleasure to have friends in this forum for spread the truth of God for many people sake! God bless you!:) and sorry, if my english is not so good cause I'm not a native speaker and speaking mixed english hehehe
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HI! this thread seems like a valley(JK) hehehe, here is a link of a video by a Youtuber that translate about JH last radio show and the reason why he left the radio show,just for share and maybe some of you already found this
sorry, long time with no post,cause busy with study and just have holiday..from that interview,i think,he want to be a person with his true character and try to find comfortable space work to enjoy his worklife that isn't in control or scripted.
and i have a question, is JHkey real? i found out about this insane shipper fans JHkey, when i searched about it and find many videos on YT also many threads about JHkey. i dont want make assumption about this,but in his one video on vlive,where he was cry and said " that he is afraid of people(public) judge him if he reveals his true self" and maybe it can be one thing that make him get more depressed,but yeah who knows..if he was g*y, i really apreciate it cause it doesn't matter as long as it could ,makes him happy and makes him continue his live and if he wasn't, for sure assumption its a real thing that can kill somebody. and also if someone who has PC/Laptop with OS Linux, they can search more information through dunkel(; deutsch)web, i want to do it,but sadly my PC runs OS Windows,so i'm afraid my id got leak,also there are rare PC banks with OS linux in my country,so if someone want to try it, i can make a tutorial guide for it and sent through inbox.
 





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Im a big j****huyn fan but ive heard two scenarios.He either killed himself cause he was gay and knew people wouldnt be accepting if anyone found out(blackmailed).Or he was gay for pay(executives higher ups)and that destroyed him for good... :(
sorry for your loss,i also become a fan cause i like his syle of music in his songs when he already passed away..Well yeah it could be, if he was G*y since their debut and his company was knew about his s*x orientation and keep it bottled up(like pay the blackmailer and make scandal in relationship also the fanservice with fellow members for avoiding the real issue)until he passed away. as for, g*y for pay ,i have little doubt about it cause He was from big company and his band was a succesful and talented one in SK(you can check in their salary income),so the company bill got pay back. its also the fact that in all industry you must give something for gain somthing, so its not a wonder if its true that they were sold their bodies for got $$. and in this thread some authors found some suspicious evidences in the accident place and his case is already closed without furthermore investigation like track his phone,send last message to sister,no postmortem,no photo with the casket open,in the last concert he dressed like MJ in smooth criminal ,have appointment with author friend for his thriller book etc. if he really killed him self,he wouldn't gave the letter to his friend,send message and make promise with friends before etc cause JH has really strong charecter that make him impossible to broke a promise, i said this cause i share the same zodiak like him and have some similiarity in characters and when it comes to promise, i choose to not make a promise if i canT fullfill it. Or he also can fake his death to get out from the industry, cause if he was retired in publics eyec,he will never getting out from the occult and will stuck in that gross things.
 





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sorry for your loss,i also become a fan cause i like his syle of music in his songs when he already passed away..Well yeah it could be, if he was G*y since their debut and his company was knew about his s*x orientation and keep it bottled up(like pay the blackmailer and make scandal in relationship also the fanservice with fellow members for avoiding the real issue)until he passed away. as for, g*y for pay ,i have little doubt about it cause He was from big company and his band was a succesful and talented one in SK(you can check in their salary income),so the company bill got pay back. its also the fact that in all industry you must give something for gain somthing, so its not a wonder if its true that they were sold their bodies for got $$. and in this thread some authors found some suspicious evidences in the accident place and his case is already closed without furthermore investigation like track his phone,send last message to sister,no postmortem,no photo with the casket open,in the last concert he dressed like MJ in smooth criminal ,have appointment with author friend for his thriller book etc. if he really killed him self,he wouldn't gave the letter to his friend,send message and make promise with friends before etc cause JH has really strong charecter that make him impossible to broke a promise, i said this cause i share the same zodiak like him and have some similiarity in characters and when it comes to promise, i choose to not make a promise if i canT fullfill it. Or he also can fake his death to get out from the industry, cause if he was retired in publics eyec,he will never getting out from the occult and will stuck in that gross things.
The last thig you saud its sth i hope so bad to be true.I mean him faking his death but who knows...they say the same things about a lot of stars (mj elvis) but usually ut stems from denial.In his si fuera ella live video we wore a white blouse with blood in it.So he might be scarificed after all for Bt*.
 





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The last thig you saud its sth i hope so bad to be true.I mean him faking his death but who knows...they say the same things about a lot of stars (mj elvis) but usually ut stems from denial.In his si fuera ella live video we wore a white blouse with blood in it.So he might be scarificed after all for Bt*.
Well,if its true,he faking his death it will reveal in 3 or 5 years later,but as we know,he never will be a part of shi**e again, and if he really sacrificed for B+s,its also can be true cause lesoman share the same agenda about AI thing with UesA and occult,so he can be the first project for that AI cause with his death news most people start to recognised and acknowledge him as one great idol , for B+s i think, they start bombarded whole world with kepop,and it must be start from Uesa first,cause you know Uesa is like the window that whole world see ,so it will be making their agenda more acceptable for people around the world in view years later and as you know music is one of universal language that make people united ,so no wonder when occult choose them for made it in Uesa,cause they already famous in SK and its just an easy thing when from the start you already served devil,the next is just gave some sacrifice for keep the power of fame.but its also really confusing,either is he or his family or friends know that he will be sacrificed? why didnt he just run away with his family,or at least just spread the truth even though he will be death at the end.
 





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Well,if its true,he faking his death it will reveal in 3 or 5 years later,but as we know,he never will be a part of shi**e again, and if he really sacrificed for B+s,its also can be true cause lesoman share the same agenda about AI thing with UesA and occult,so he can be the first project for that AI cause with his death news most people start to recognised and acknowledge him as one great idol , for B+s i think, they start bombarded whole world with kepop,and it must be start from Uesa first,cause you know Uesa is like the window that whole world see ,so it will be making their agenda more acceptable for people around the world in view years later and as you know music is one of universal language that make people united ,so no wonder when occult choose them for made it in Uesa,cause they already famous in SK and its just an easy thing when from the start you already served devil,the next is just gave some sacrifice for keep the power of fame.but its also really confusing,either is he or his family or friends know that he will be sacrificed? why didnt he just run away with his family,or at least just spread the truth even though he will be death at the end.
They emotionally abuse them to the point they are afraid to say anything.
 





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Hi..i found a link that some fans made for translated JHs book skeleton flower,sorry, if its not so necessary for some of you,but maybe we can found some clue from it.
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/14618484?page=2&show_comments=true&view_adult=true&view_full_work=true
 





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I think I can tell you some things about it.

I dealt with depression for many years (5 or 6 years) and I tried to commit suicide many times.
The idea of suicide becomes very attractive. It seemed to be the only way to scape from pain.
But it isn't as easy as people think. It takes you long time to take the decision even when you feel inside it's what you have to do.
You can think about it for months and tried only when you feel emotionally low. Just tried it because, as I told you, it is hard to do it. You try and try until you hurt yourself more and deeper. Thus, you stop being afraid of it. At the begging it's you trying to know how it feels. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. Then you can take 50 pills like if they were candies.

It is a whole process of "assimilation".
If Jonghyun committed suicide, there is no doubt, at least for me, that he have tried it many times before.

This is something that make you feel embarrassed. You don't want anyone to know what is happening inside of you. Also, you don't want to answer questions, you don't want others to judge you because it will hurt you even more. Most people will say bad things about you and your condition and try to explain what you feel to someone who thinks you're an idiot is devastating. You feel lonely and you isolte yourself in an attempt to protect yourself because discussions only encourages you to suicide as soon so possible.
That's why you don't talk about it to others and hide it as much as you can.

Close people don't notice it. They get use to your "unusual behavior and mood". They think you have "bad attitude or a rebel".
Actually is really hard to know if someone is depressed if the person don't talk about it. To fake you're okay is not that hard. You can smile and seem to be fine all day if you are doing something that you really like. I suppose that's why nobody in the studio noticed something unusual. He was OK because he was doing what he liked the most. He was fine when he was working on his music.
There are some moments of releif in the day, but then you become the same sad person you really are as soon as you are alone in your room.

In my personal opinion, I think it was devastating for him to leave Blue Night. It was like therapy for him. I'm pretty sure that's the reason why he was so sad when he left. After that, everything became harder for him.
Also, I think he took the worst decisions when he decided to isolate himself in that apartment. Isolation is your worst enemy when you're depressed. It you and your broken mind without anyone there to tell you that your thoughts are wrong. I did the same and I can tell you it's like a slow death. You see yourself alone, forgotten, you feel empty... it's awful.

If he would decided to go to her mother's house, probably it will never happened. It's easy to try to commit suicide when you are alone, but it's harder when you realize someone loves you.
Bless you, for taking the time to explain the thoughts he most probably had. I know that took a lot to say, I hope you are better.

I too think that leaving Blue Night was a big part of what happened to him spiralling downwards. Not crying at the concert was so unusual for him, maybe he finally found peace with what he was going to do. so sad :(
 





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The last thig you saud its sth i hope so bad to be true.I mean him faking his death but who knows...they say the same things about a lot of stars (mj elvis) but usually ut stems from denial.In his si fuera ella live video we wore a white blouse with blood in it.So he might be scarificed after all for Bt*.

But S-em surely wouldn't have agreed to that. for bee.ts, but then again they had their poster up on an advertising board stuck to the SM building... the J-I-N one alone was kinda creepy, ...AND selling their album in their store.....kinda weird after his death. oh and charcoal briquette V whose birthday was 12 days after J's death. Bless our J if that was true.....so wrong.:(:(:(:(

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I mean they saud that he drived his car around hitting the horn
If he was thinking if killimg himself why would he do that?
It seems more as if he wamted someone to save him..
Also the note was digitally made so who knows if it was him who wrote it ir someone else?
 





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I mean they saud that he drived his car around hitting the horn
If he was thinking if killimg himself why would he do that?
It seems more as if he wamted someone to save him..
Also the note was digitally made so who knows if it was him who wrote it ir someone else?
Well something def was off that day. I read he made a call about his new book in the morning and had ordered a new car. Maybe he knew what was to happen before his concerts.. That smooth criminal suit told a story for sure. The words. He was also covered up , no flesh . .. Yeh really odd.