Back to the Mandela Effect, weird evidence

Sibi

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Number 2) Again around the early 2000 I read up about the false memory organization. The short story is while a lot of child abuse (both with actual children, and adults remembering previous abuse) was showing up in the 1980s, this organization formed to show there were many cases of people having memories of abuse PLANTED by unscrupulous mental heath professionals.

Could that have happened? Sure -- there are always fakers among the real thing. So when I first heard about this organization formed to combat fake abuse stories, I didn't think too much of it.

Later on (those early 2000s again) I discovered that many of the founders of that organizations were in fact accused of not only being abusers themselves, but organizers of larger networks of abuse, or directly associated with those organizers. Plus they would often use these type of little details (not sure if Berenstain Bears came up, but these kind of little childhood memories were often related in past abuse stories) to "disprove" the accusers.

Again, from whom ever I gleaned this information had a bigger point to make. Besides not accepting any news from any sources without some cold hard skepticism, like @Sibi said again, some of these "little misremembered" details may in fact be attempts to confuse and distract the general public from some of the internecine nastiness going on in the background.
Yes! The False Memory foundations were created by men who were accused of abuse. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders does not include "false memories."

The False Memory Foundation was founded by Peter Freyd who was accused of sexually abusing his daughter.
"According to Philadelphia Magazine, Peter Freyd said that someone in the Freyd household would have been aware of the alleged abuse, because the Freyd's dog would have barked due to the commotion elicited by his alleged abuse " - source


Quotes from FMF website
  • "Psychological studies have shown that it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between a real memory and one that is a product of imagination or some other process." (Loftus, 2002) "
  • "For me, your work has performed a miracle: transforming a baffling personal nightmare into a comprehensible and challenging social problem. Building on the literature you have assembled, I am now able to reach out to enlist other family members to help my daughter. A Dad "
  • "We quite literally ’make up stories’ about our lives, the world, and reality in general. Often it is the story that creates the memory, rather than vice versa. (Hastie and Dawes, 2010) "
Accusers:
92 percent are female.
74 percent are between ages 31 and 50.
31 percent have education beyond college.
60 percent report memory of abuse prior to age 4.
Accusations:
62 percent accuse fathers of abuse.
30 percent accuse both mother and father of abuse.
18 percent include allegations of satanic ritual abuse.
71 percent of siblings do not believe the accusations.
 

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What do YOU remember? Kraft or Stouffer's
(This "original" was owned by General Mills, and that MIGHT make sense, but still.....)

 

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This may have already been said, but it is simple facts that companies DO in fact use different branding/logos for various marketing campaigns.
For example I have been to places that sold Edy's Ice Cream, but that EXACT SAME BRAND was sold in a different state under Dreyer's. Or the Arnold's bread brand
is/was also known as Brownberry in other areas.

We also know companies merge, get bought out, etc., and so change names. The Arnold/Brownberry is one of those.
My recent favorite was two rival grocery store chains: Safeway and Albertsons. I reminded me of the whole Target vs Walmart "wars" with their classic Red vs Blue branding.

The company that purchased Safeway bought out Albertson's around 2015.
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I didn't know this until 2019. I picked up a Safeway ad, and thought for sure I had slipped into an alternate dimension because that grocery store ad had BOTH Safeway and Albertson's on the title line.
The only alternate dimensions here was a corporate buyout.

I was informed about this one as well:

This is a Canadian incarnation of Kraft, who markets KD's (Kraft Dinners).
I was told that Canadians and American's that have NOT been informed on the market differences are often confused by the other's reference to KD's or mac and cheese, but everyone knows about the little "blue and white" boxes.
 
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Having stated that, it is very easy using information like that to confuse loads of people who might not know all the intricacies of corporate negotiations, some times unintentionally.
Some times, very deliberately.
 

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Another favorite of mine is F/fry's.

Fry's is/was a very large electronic store, like Best Buy, but even bigger.
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According to the above article, they officially shut down in February 2021.
I''ve know about Fry's since they sold online as www.outpost.com.


In 2019, I discovered this
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Notice how similar that logo? The font is spikier, there is the capital and small f's, but even that long bar that completes the F is in the same place the world "electronics" appears, and in bright bold red letters?
I strongly suspected this could not be an accident, and I was right. Turn's out they are from the same family.

These brands have been around for a long time, but I only discovered them because I happened to be in the different places at different times where they were both prominent. Who knows when that wikipedia page was created, but how easy would it have been to figure out why there are seemingly two identically named stores that sell completely different stuff,
unless you were an economics or library science major?
 

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simple question if it's all false memories/misremembering
and made up names/jingles/movies,w/e for the me's

how does it spread globally?

example in a small town like mine if one person is
"misremembering"making "false memories"whoever
they were speaking to mentioning the mr or fm would
surely correct and show that person it's not what they're
mr/fm it is actually this

one would expect specially since most Peoples like to
prove the fact that what they're saying is correct/they're
right,why does no one correct the fm/mr person then?

so how then do Ya get Peoples having the same mr/fm word
for word even without hearing about the me phenomena
how does it spread like that across language barriers and
all

not to mention the obsessed about details Peoples everywhere
 
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peridot

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simple question if it's all false memories/misremembering
and made up names/jingles/movies,w/e for the me's

how does it spread globally?

example in a small town like mine if one person is
"misremembering"making "false memories"whoever
they were speaking to mentioning the mr or fm would
surely correct and show that person it's not what they're
mr/fm it is actually this

one would expect specially since most Peoples like to
prove the fact that what they're saying is correct/they're
right,why does no one correct the fm/mr person then?

so how then do Ya get Peoples having the same mr/fm word
for word even without hearing about the me phenomena
how does it spread like that across language barriers and
all

not to mention the obsessed about details Peoples everywhere
I sincerely believe there is both going on.

@redqueen
I am related to many of those "must correct at all cost" folks. The problem is, sometimes they are flat wrong. Some times, of course, they ARE right, But because of the force of their personality, many people just ignore both them and the issue because they have more pressing things to do than fight the obnoxiousness. And because of the circumstance under which they relinquished that fight, they neither know or care. In those cases, you never really know which was correct.
The trouble is, how many people actually went back and checked? A lot of these ads came out pre internet, and pre digital phones/cameras, so how many were actually paying attention that closely, or at least can prove it now? How many of us have those old polaroid's, 35mms, or other film formats? And given how expensive it was for film, most people were not going to waste in on a box of Stouffers (or a Berenstain bears book, etc)?
That is in fact the real question: how much of this is "misremembering?"

Because we all ALSO know that there are people would absolutely change ads and print materials. Forget Mandela for a sec, how many products were changes in the last 3 years due to being CANCELLED. (I'm thinking specifically of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and the Indian Lass on the Land O Lakes products). Or because of a lawsuit, trademark violation, family company split off, etc? Those things were absolutely CHANGED, but at least for now, we know why. What happens when isn't headline news, or even if it is, 5 or 6 years later when most people have forgotten the details?


If that happens for KNOWN reasons, I have no doubt that can be used for "other reasons." And given the human propensity for bad memory anyways, it is a very easy way just to pretend all is normal and no, nothing sinister is happening.
 

redqueen

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Your correct @peridot all of that is Truth
it happens all the time

as Peoples We do forget tptb have been
dumbing Us down for that reason so nothing
sticks in Our memories or holds Our attention
long enough to matter,they count on that
as apart of hiding in plain sight of Us

I have no idea about what's happening if its
mr/fm or nrec tearing open portals in Our World
to bring what they're trying to bring through w/e

that they have TOLD all of Us they're trying to bring
through,its nothing to Help Us as a whole just them

look at how much tptb tell Us that's Truth but it
just goes overhead cause the way they have socially
engineered Us in their system that unfortunately atm
they're in control of everything in

a Truth I do Know We unfortunately have sinister
evil beings ruling over Us in control of Our World
right now,that love to divide Us when ever they can
using designed divides while their True intentions
are hidden behind designed divides

A Truth I Know is that now that I'm awake I look/
See things in a different way and I will not discount
anything anymore just because tptb throw out a
term to label/divide Us by example mis/disinformation

if evil is telling Ya to look over here Your eyes better
stay tuned to what's going on in the opposite direction

it's easier to get someone to dismiss something especially
when it calls for Ya to question what Ya Know to be True
than it is to Know someone is Speaking Truth that Ya cannot
ignore

ignorance is bliss,I Know I've wished I could go back to sleep
in Our shared nightmare of this World right now rather than Know
what's happening to Children/Peoples even as I sit here typing it's
happening

who would want to Know they've been duped or lied to and fell for it
hook,line and sinker,We Seen that over and over the last few yrs

nope I'll stay Asking questions especially if the answer doesn't sit right
in my guts or msm/tptb wants me to look here and not ask questions
just to dismiss someone as crazy ctheorist outright
 

redqueen

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not happy at all right now

found my interview with a vampire book
it's now "the"

this crap is too much I read that book and
saw the movie more than once,I was obsessed
with ane ryce when I was younger I have a lot of
her stories

even ryce says it's a,think I'll Believe the person
that actually created the book
 

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“For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God” (Exod. 34:14).

if"gods"name was/is jealousy
it's not Our Light that's being spoken of imHo


Lots of what they say are what is paraphrased then taken as the literal words written...Such as the rod spoil the child one. Which is in proverbs pretty clear
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
 

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“For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God” (Exod. 34:14).


Lots of what they say are what is paraphrased then taken as the literal words written...Such as the rod spoil the child one. Which is in proverbs pretty clear
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
For centuries people have tried to remove words from the Bible or add them. While mauled manuscripts exist, they don’t negate the genuine ones. This “Mandela Effect” Back to the Future narrative is a modern (and slightly flakey) attempt to sow doubt and uncertainty in the minds of those who would otherwise read and understand. I wouldn’t waste time on the idea.
 

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@Maldarker
I remember the jealous part but not that's the name
@Red Sky at Morning
I don't think of the book as anything more than a book
since it's now been written by men who We Know are corrupted/evil

the m,effect I do Believe

there is something going on,I don't Believe it's back to the future
or the memories of the Peoples who do remember differently
being false/misremembered

I personally Believe it's like a side effect of other things
being done in Our World by tptb such as harp/nrec etc..We have absolutely
no idea of what is really done at any of these places despite them telling Us
what they want Us to think they're doing

not to mention there are secret labs and such that are completely hidden from
even being public Knowledge that who Knows what's happening in
 

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@Maldarker
I remember the jealous part but not that's the name
@Red Sky at Morning
I don't think of the book as anything more than a book
since it's now been written by men who We Know are corrupted/evil

the m,effect I do Believe

there is something going on,I don't Believe it's back to the future
or the memories of the Peoples who do remember differently
being false/misremembered

I personally Believe it's like a side effect of other things
being done in Our World by tptb such as harp/nrec etc..We have absolutely
no idea of what is really done at any of these places despite them telling Us
what they want Us to think they're doing

not to mention there are secret labs and such that are completely hidden from
even being public Knowledge that who Knows what's happening in
See what saying couldn't find it in my KJV thats why was going with equating the commands with name. We know how easy it is to trick people etc. So idk about that interesting ;)

Yeah something is going on even time feels strange. Project looking glass?
 

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@Maldarker
I remember the jealous part but not that's the name
@Red Sky at Morning
I don't think of the book as anything more than a book
since it's now been written by men who We Know are corrupted/evil

the m,effect I do Believe

there is something going on,I don't Believe it's back to the future
or the memories of the Peoples who do remember differently
being false/misremembered

I personally Believe it's like a side effect of other things
being done in Our World by tptb such as harp/nrec etc..We have absolutely
no idea of what is really done at any of these places despite them telling Us
what they want Us to think they're doing

not to mention there are secret labs and such that are completely hidden from
even being public Knowledge that who Knows what's happening in
This 100% I agree with, it's deff something going on with the things they're doing... I remember like almost a decade or more ago reading an article about that CERN thing in Switzerland and Hawkings saying stuff bout. He said sumin like he's against the things they're using it for, that they're literally tearing holes in our into other dimensions and it's having horrible effects on our world, and they need to stop because they're dancing on the gates of Hell... I'm paraphrasing him I'm 100% sure that was the gist of what he said. After they "discovered" the God particle with it, they prolly started trying to find literal portals to their "god" and its literally messing with our time and space in our reality
 
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