Are the 4 angels bound in the Great River Euphrates about to be loosed?

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Well, actually, I can't really comment on the souls being destroyed, because I don't really fully know what that means.

Yes, I've read you signature. An interesting one it is, thank-you.

I suppose we'd have to first define what we mean by fire. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

Here's some.
Thomas 13:14 Jesus said: Whoever is near to me is near to the fire, and whoever is far from me is far from The Kingdom.
2:6 Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I guard it until the world is afire.
3:2 Jesus said: Men possibly think that I have come to throw peace upon the world and they do not know that I have come to throw a division upon the Earth, fire, sword, war. For there shall be five in a house: three shall be against two and two against three, the father against the son and the son against the father, and they will stand as solitaries.
Ok hold on, so far as I understand from the brief read I've given the book you are always linking to, those souls which don't "repent" go to the fire which is their final destruction and have no further opportunity to change?
 






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Ok so I just gave the book another brief look and am finding it quite ironic that he speaks about Oscar Wilde's "Portrait of Dorian Gray" when Oscar Wilde was a homosexual who according to the teaching of your "prophet" means he should have been stoned to death...
 






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Yeah but this whole thing about the souls being put to death and losing all possibility of changing is the spiritual equivalent of capital punishment, which to me seems like quite a barbaric practice whatever place it may have had in ancient Hebrew civilization. If you want my take on what "the fire" is, well, read my signature...
What is the rightful penalty for treason?

How is punishing criminals "barbaric"? Should habitual criminals who refuse to be rehabilitated be allowed to continue to destroy whatever they wish? And what about the prison guards who have been baby-sitting this place for the past 6000 years? Is it fair to them to allow all of this insanity to go on indefinitely?

With regard to The Fire, read the little book: The Way home or face The Fire.
 






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Ok hold on, so far as I understand from the brief read I've given the book you are always linking to, those souls which don't "repent" go to the fire which is their final destruction and have no further opportunity to change?
I don't really know for sure.

But what I do know is that no-one wants to be there for 1 minute; that I have been assured of.
 






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Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the second DEATH.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".
 






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Ok so I just gave the book another brief look and am finding it quite ironic that he speaks about Oscar Wilde's "Portrait of Dorian Gray" when Oscar Wilde was a homosexual who according to the teaching of your "prophet" means he should have been stoned to death...
There's a difference between having homosexual leanings and actually practicing it, and I think Oscar Wilde served time for it. Was it an isolated incident? I don't know.

Father has spoken through various people.

I think He's speaking through Greta Thunberg now, as strange as that might seem to some?

He has spoken through Steven Spielberg, a counterfeit Jew (Rev. 2:9), with his movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
 






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Ok so I just gave the book another brief look and am finding it quite ironic that he speaks about Oscar Wilde's "Portrait of Dorian Gray" when Oscar Wilde was a homosexual who according to the teaching of your "prophet" means he should have been stoned to death...
Concerning the message of the "Portrait of Dorian Gray"...

From: The Way home or face The Fire

3:170 God has sent many “clues” for you, about the fact that “the physical reflects the mental and spiritual”, one of which is the story, that God wrote; using the hand of Oscar Wilde; called “The Picture of Dorian Gray”, which illustrates it perfectly.
3:171 This story of Dorian Gray and his portrait, and his deal with the Devil, shows perfectly; that the physical; which Dorian transferred to the portrait, by making a deal with Satan; reflects the mental and spiritual.
3:172 Every time Dorian did something evil, the painting of himself became more and more grotesque; evil-looking; wizened and wrinkled; until he could not bear to look at his own evil soul’s effect on his body, portrayed on the canvas.
3:173 There are other “clues”, in the story of Dorian Gray, about this reflection, and also about “HOME”.
3:174 In the story, Dorian has a book sent to him, by his friend Henry. The book is about evil deeds, and how people that do evil deeds start to look evil. The reason why no-one suspected Dorian, of doing evil deeds, was because he looked so handsome; young; innocent and healthy. They did not know that Dorian had done a deal with Satan, and that the painting was looking more and more evil and sick, instead of him.
3:175 Dorian reads this book, in the evening, by the light of a single “bright star” (Rev. 22:16 / King of kings’ Bible, Rev. 30:16), until night falls, and he can not read any more. This is a “clue” about “HOME”, because the only star, that it could have possibly been, is the Morning/Evening Star (Venus), which is the brightest star in the sky, and can be seen before the sky goes dark, and all the others then appear.
3:176 Doctors, by playing at God; keeping bodies alive, when they should have died, and the soul (Being/Jinn) should have received a new body; are actually causing un-necessary suffering, by prolonging people’s illnesses, and, thereby, also their punishment, and the pain they have to suffer. IF they stopped playing at God; as they should, and let the body die, as God intended; the suffering would STOP, and the soul (Being/Jinn) would get a brand-new body (human).
3:177 As already mentioned in Ch. 2, mankind MUST live WITH nature, in order to survive and to keep the race HEALTHY. Unfortunately, AS USUAL, mankind is living AGAINST God and nature, weakening the race, and filling the world with more and more sick and crippled bodies, thereby causing the souls; that then have to use those bodies; to have to suffer unnecessarily, just so that the selfish parents can have a baby. What about the RIGHTS of the poor soul, that is then forced to have to use that baby (body), and suffer being permanently sick or crippled?

The most evil and insane people on this planet, who are temporarily running it for their master Satan, are hell-bent on wiping out over 90% of the population they refer to as "useless eaters" (consumers) through wars and vaccines.

Hopefully you can see the relevance in the above message and lessons, particularly in light of what's presently going on in China with the Corona virus and the potential "cure". Mandatory vaccinations went into effect in China on the 1st of December 2019, and a few weeks later people started dying. Coincidence?
 






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This is slightly off topic but I'm really finding it difficult to grasp why you followers of Mr Hill are so obsessed with the Bible and Quran... You believe in reincarnation, right? So far as I can tell, both the Bible and Quran contain some hints that this is a fact but don't put it in any kind of explicit form... In this case why are you not then studying the Eastern scriptures which are more explicit about it? Have you read the Bhagavad Gita? The Heart Sutra?
Jesus walked the Americas https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1021725.He_Walked_the_Americas

He is supposed to have lived in India as well https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/631227.Jesus_Lived_in_India

There's a whole lot more than meets the eye, but The Way home or face The Fire goes straight to the heart of the very urgent issue facing everyone right now.

Don't take us as the example of it; we're like everyone else here: prisoners. See what it says to you personally.
 






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The guy who made this video is another one of "the blind leading the blind". Most people have been led to believe that the 7 angels with the 7 trumpets in the Apocalypse (Revelation) are going to appear, in the distant future, at the end of time and blow their trumpets.

WRONG!

The 7 angels are 7 time periods and the first 5 have already gone, with the 6th. (Rev. 9:12) IMMINENT and the 7th being the LAST, for most of mankind. That's how asleep/spiritually blind people really are. BILLIONS have already died and people's hearts are still so rock-hard/stony that they refuse to "see" it.

Before YOU can understand the TRUTH of the Bible Prophecies, which take up 2/3 of it, or anything similarly complex, you have to decide to be TOTALLY objective and analytical about the FACTS presented and not distracted by irrelevant "clap-trap" from organised religions and "holier than thou" theories. The Bible itself warns you NOT to be led by the "blind guides" of Organised Religions and politics (Isaiah 3:12-15) (Matt. 23:13, 16 & 24).

Like reading "blue-prints" or "electrical circuit-diagrams" there is some learning to be done & fortunately the instruction for this is in the Bible, and, as you might expect, some of it is coded to stop idiots interfering with the meaning. So it is IMPERATIVE to get the BEST translation - the new "King of kings' Bible" by JAH - Authorised by God; or use the previous best - the king James 1611 original, which is the only human-kingly Authorised Version and not modernised Satanically corrupted translations done by successive churches.

Let's take a look at some of the codes to get you started, so you may agree when you look up the chapter and verse, if you care to check it out.

SUN - The Throne of David - (Psalm 89:36) - which is the British Throne. The "Stone of Scone" is Jacob's Pillar and Israel's Throne of David.

MOON - Reflects the light of the SUN. The SUN is the British Throne and the "Commonwealth" reflects her light and power (like the moon does to the sun).

STARS of heaven - U.S.A. (50 on their flag, "STAR spangled banner" etc.)

HEAVENS - Political systems (above the mountains).

MOUNTAIN - Government - (Micah 4:1, Isaiah 2:1, Matt. 21:21).

EARTH - Downtrodden people (oppressed and poor).

EARTH-QUAKE - Great upheaval of the EARTH (as above).

SEA - Restless, moving people who are not as oppressed and are free to move around (Psalm 65:6,7, Isa. 17:12-13).

WATERS - Peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues (languages) (Apocalypse/Revelation 17:15).

HORN - kingdom

UNICORN - Unique horn - "One Kingdom, world without end" - God's Kingdom on Earth - soon.

OLIVE - The "House of Israel" - (people not country - Zech. 4:11-14)

FIG tree - Jews (Matt. 21:19-20), Christ cursing Judaism for ever in verse 19.

DAY - Year in prophecy (Num. 14:34, Ezekiel 4:6) (Revelation 9:15).

MONTH - 30 years in prophecy (Rev. 11: 2-3 - 42 x 30 = 1260).

SEVEN - The number of completeness in Scripture.

You need to use your common-sense to see what is logical and sensible and whether the words are to be interpreted in their normal way or in God's code. A perfect example of this is when Christ said, "IF, you have enough faith and you say to this mountain, fall into the sea and it will (Matt. 21:21)", it obviously did not mean an actual mountain and the sea. It was coded. It is obviously possible for God to cast a mountain into the sea but why should He want to destroy a beautiful mountain that He Himself has created? It means government (mountain) and restless dis-satisfied people (sea).

Think about it. A mountain (govt.) towers over and looks down upon the sea (people) and the sea looks up at the mountain. The sea (people) cannot remove the mountain (govt.) without a tidal-wave. IF you have enough faith and tell the people the TRUTH of God's Perfect System of Government and Laws, you can create that tidal-wave with God's help, for everyone's benefit. SIMPLE.

Excerpt above from: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and the Two Witnesses

With what's been shared above in mind, look at the 7 trumpets again, realizing that 5 of them have already passed, and the 6th and 7th are now imminent.

1 WW1 - began in 1914, and was the first time that automatic weapons were used and bombs rained down from above using airplanes.

2 The Bolshevik Revolution - 1917. The great "mountain" was the Russian czar being overthrown into the "sea" (people) which resulted in a third of the world adopting red communism (blood). Over 20,000,000 Russian Christians were murdered.

3 Chernobyl (Wormwood) -1986.

4 The decolonization and decline of the British Empire from 1945-1997, coupled with many of the U.S. overseas territories or occupations gaining independence after WW2. Examples include: the Philippines (1946), the Panama Canal Zone(1979), Palau (1981), the Federated States of Micronesia (1986), and the Marshall Islands (1986).

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

5 Woe #1: WW3 – Phase 1: The Invasion of Kuwait

6 Woe #2: WW3 – Phase 2: East v. West - Russia & China v. the U.S. & U.K., which the U.S. and U.K. LOSE

7 Woe #3: The Reaping (Matt. 24:28, Rev. 14:15-16)

This is where we actually stand - on the precipice of the second phase of WW3 - if anyone cares to take notice. And with regard to the rest of us who are still here today (see Rev. 9:20-21), how many have actually REPENTED of their sins? How many even know what that means?

Sin = the transgression (breaking) of The Law that God gave us, found in the first five books of the Bible (see 1 John 3:4 for the definition of sin).

The ONLY Way someone can truly repent of their sins is to STOP SINNING/BREAKING THE LAW.

IF everyone did that, there would be no reason for all of these horrific measures being allowed, all of which are to get us to take notice and stop this insanity. WOE, WOE, WOE!

Before anyone comes along and complains that this should be in the religious section just because there are a few quotes from the Bible, it needs to be understood that the Bible is NOT a religious book, at least not in the sense the word "religion" is used today.

The Bible is a historical text, that also serves as an instruction manual on how to survive the final (7th) trumpet, so everyone would do well to get rid of their pre-programmed notions and superstitions, stop being so stupid and selfish, and start listening and DOING what our Creator has COMMANDED us to do for our own benefit. Those who don't will NOT survive.


This is so enlightening, it's scary...
 






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Like..what a nice, cozy, warm fire?
And this - John the Baptist speaking about Christ Jesus ... as I know you know.

Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, and [with] fire:
 






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What is the rightful penalty for treason?

How is punishing criminals "barbaric"? Should habitual criminals who refuse to be rehabilitated be allowed to continue to destroy whatever they wish?
I wouldn't say death because capital punishment under all circumstances is absurd. Of course, as you have made abundantly clear, you do support it, including in the case of adults performing consensual acts within their own bedroom. Via the means of throwing stones.

And what about the prison guards who have been baby-sitting this place for the past 6000 years? Is it fair to them to allow all of this insanity to go on indefinitely?
In the angelic resources department of heaven...

RAPHAEL: Now the next order of business is the prison planet "earth". How are things going down there?

ANAEL: Not so good I'm afraid. The humans are failing to even recognize that they are being punished for treason and continue acting in all kinds of reprehensible ways.

RAPHAEL: Sounds like a lot of work for the angels...

ZACHARIEL: Yes that's true, Uriel says they're working 14 hour shifts, and nobody likes being stuck out there in that far flung corner of the universe.

RAPHAEL: So what's the plan?

ORIFIEL: Orders from upstairs are just to give up on the project and execute them all.

RAPHEAL: Come again?

ORIFIEL: Execute them all. By fire.

RAPHAEL: That doesn't sound quite right to me... Maybe in another ten thousand years they'll figure it out... Can't they just stay in the earth prison until they wake up from it? After all, most of them don't even understand their position.

ORIFIEL: Well you know, if the big boss says...


... Anyway, I don't know if you are familiar with the whole notion of Kali Yuga or planetary dark age, or the Buddhist notion of the era of the degeneration of Dharma. Basically what is happening is a part of the process, it's supposed to happen.

I would say that you should stop focusing on returning to some paradise realm and start considering how it might be possible for human beings to live harmoniously on earth.
 






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There's a difference between having homosexual leanings and actually practicing it, and I think Oscar Wilde served time for it. Was it an isolated incident? I don't know.

Father has spoken through various people.

I think He's speaking through Greta Thunberg now, as strange as that might seem to some?

He has spoken through Steven Spielberg, a counterfeit Jew (Rev. 2:9), with his movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
All I'm saying is that it's lucky that no-one stoned Oscar Wilde to death before he had the chance to write that book...
 






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I wouldn't say death because capital punishment under all circumstances is absurd. Of course, as you have made abundantly clear, you do support it, including in the case of adults performing consensual acts within their own bedroom. Via the means of throwing stones.
So you think that it's much better to let criminals run wild indefinitely, with little or no consequences for their actions, and that somehow, magically, people will learn to do the right thing under that system? What a joke!

The entire purpose of human life here on planet Earth is to learn SELF-CONTROL. Do you get that please?

When a spirit-Being/Soul has lost control of the human they live inside of to the extent that they murder another human, the very best thing that can happen is for their human to be lawfully executed, according to The Law our Creator gave us. That way the families of the victims are not further punished for the crimes that have been committed against them, and the penalty for the criminal offense is severe enough it should PREVENT the crime. A win-win for everyone involved, including the spirit-Being who committed the murder, who has their memories erased, along with all of the evil they've done in that lifetime, and is then placed in a new body.

The same goes for all of the other capital offenses. They're capital offenses for a reason. And if anyone is actually stupid and selfish enough to think that adultery and sexual perversion "stay in the bedroom", then they're sound asleep spiritually. Open your eyes and look at this world. Thanks to adultery, it's literally FILLED with broken homes, with billions of children growing up with absolutely no idea of what love, fidelity and team-work really are.

The same goes for the sexual perverts and child predators. It's literally destroying the family unit, which is the basic building block of a healthy, civilized society. Is that what you're condoning? You think we should wipe out the family unit, wipe out decency, privacy, and morally upright behavior in favor of eternal "tolerance" for every sexual deviant, adulterer and murderer?

The reason we are being given all of these warnings to change our evil ways is because time is rapidly running out, AS WE'VE BEEN WARNED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

With regard to your attempt to be clever, everyone who is guarding this prison reform school knows full well that this insanity will not be allowed to go on indefinitely, because we would literally kill each other off completely if left to our own devices.

We've been allowed to get to this point, to physically show us our own insanity in a manner that leaves NO DOUBT that we were, and still are, IN THE WRONG. We clearly aren't capable of managing this one tiny planet--which we have almost destroyed--much less the entire universe, as we sought to do.

Perhaps you really can't see where this world is headed on its current path. We are headed toward the total destruction of planet Earth, along with all life on it, including the humans. Right now your human can still breathe air, so it thinks everything will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday. But it won't, as the real you (the spirit-Being inside) intuitively knows.

This war in the Middle East that's about to enter its most deadly phase, is going to destroy a third of mankind. Billions will die. And billions more will be murdered through other means as well, including vaccines, as we've likewise been warned about. ALL thanks to a bunch of unpunished and unrepentant habitual criminal who we are "tolerating" in positions of so-called authority. And all proof that the system of tolerance you're advocating simply can NEVER work.

And even when all of this happens, exactly as we've been warned, most will still refuse to humble themselves and admit we do not know better than our Creator. That's how insane this place really is, and why WE are bringing this destruction upon ourselves. Stop looking to blame others. It isn't anyone else's fault but ours.

... Anyway, I don't know if you are familiar with the whole notion of Kali Yuga or planetary dark age, or the Buddhist notion of the era of the degeneration of Dharma. Basically what is happening is a part of the process, it's supposed to happen.

I would say that you should stop focusing on returning to some paradise realm and start considering how it might be possible for human beings to live harmoniously on earth.
There's only one way for that to happen: for all of us to admit we're in the wrong, remember who and what we really are (and why we were sent here), and return to The Law that our Creator gave us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free.

Logically, as long as there are as many opinions of what is right and wrong as there are people on this planet, there will NEVER be peace and harmony. Only when everyone UNITES under a single standard, will there be peace and harmony, and the freedom, justice, safety and security that go hand-in-hand.

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So you think that it's much better to let criminals run wild indefinitely, with little or no consequences for their actions, and that somehow, magically, people will learn to do the right thing under that system? What a joke!

The entire purpose of human life here on planet Earth is to learn SELF-CONTROL. Do you get that please?

When a spirit-Being/Soul has lost control of the human they live inside of to the extent that they murder another human, the very best thing that can happen is for their human to be lawfully executed, according to The Law our Creator gave us. That way the families of the victims are not further punished for the crimes that have been committed against them, and the penalty for the criminal offense is severe enough it should PREVENT the crime. A win-win for everyone involved, including the spirit-Being who committed the murder, who has their memories erased, along with all of the evil they've done in that lifetime, and is then placed in a new body.

The same goes for all of the other capital offenses. They're capital offenses for a reason. And if anyone is actually stupid and selfish enough to think that adultery and sexual perversion "stay in the bedroom", then they're sound asleep spiritually. Open your eyes and look at this world. Thanks to adultery, it's literally FILLED with broken homes, with billions of children growing up with absolutely no idea of what love, fidelity and team-work really are.

The same goes for the sexual perverts and child predators. It's literally destroying the family unit, which is the basic building block of a healthy, civilized society. Is that what you're condoning? You think we should wipe out the family unit, wipe out decency, privacy, and morally upright behavior in favor of eternal "tolerance" for every sexual deviant, adulterer and murderer?

The reason we are being given all of these warnings to change our evil ways is because time is rapidly running out, AS WE'VE BEEN WARNED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

With regard to your attempt to be clever, everyone who is guarding this prison reform school knows full well that this insanity will not be allowed to go on indefinitely, because we would literally kill each other off completely if left to our own devices.

We've been allowed to get to this point, to physically show us our own insanity in a manner that leaves NO DOUBT that we were, and still are, IN THE WRONG. We clearly aren't capable of managing this one tiny planet--which we have almost destroyed--much less the entire universe, as we sought to do.

Perhaps you really can't see where this world is headed on its current path. We are headed toward the total destruction of planet Earth, along with all life on it, including the humans. Right now your human can still breathe air, so it thinks everything will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday. But it won't, as the real you (the spirit-Being inside) intuitively knows.

This war in the Middle East that's about to enter its most deadly phase, is going to destroy a third of mankind. Billions will die. And billions more will be murdered through other means as well, including vaccines, as we've likewise been warned about. ALL thanks to a bunch of unpunished and unrepentant habitual criminal who we are "tolerating" in positions of so-called authority. And all proof that the system of tolerance you're advocating simply can NEVER work.

And even when all of this happens, exactly as we've been warned, most will still refuse to humble themselves and admit we do not know better than our Creator. That's how insane this place really is, and why WE are bringing this destruction upon ourselves. Stop looking to blame others. It isn't anyone else's fault but ours.


There's only one way for that to happen: for all of us to admit we're in the wrong, remember who and what we really are (and why we were sent here), and return to The Law that our Creator gave us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free.

Logically, as long as there are as many opinions of what is right and wrong as there are people on this planet, there will NEVER be peace and harmony. Only when everyone UNITES under a single standard, will there be peace and harmony, and the freedom, justice, safety and security that go hand-in-hand.

The terms Buddha and Christ Explained
But there are consequences for our actions, the planet will become difficult to live on and people will have to find some kind of system of governance which allows us to survive. Anyway, what you are saying is that we need to learn to live properly in order to return to some other planet, you're rejecting the life on earth while claiming that your laws will make this planet a happy place. Laws which were created for a particular people at a particular time in history, and which if universally applied in these times would simply be barbaric.

Your idea that capital punishment prevents crime is simply untrue. It's been shown that it doesn't have a deterrent effect.

There are tons of people out there believing in all kinds of weird interpretations of Biblical prophecies. One of the major differences between the Abrahamic and Eastern religions is that in the East there is no "last judgement", there is no final condemnation of the "unrighteous" to everlasting destruction or torment. Rather there are cycles, points at which the mass of humanity is more virtuous, points where the general level of culture is lower. Don't panic...
 






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So you think that it's much better to let criminals run wild indefinitely, with little or no consequences for their actions, and that somehow, magically, people will learn to do the right thing under that system? What a joke!

The entire purpose of human life here on planet Earth is to learn SELF-CONTROL. Do you get that please?

When a spirit-Being/Soul has lost control of the human they live inside of to the extent that they murder another human, the very best thing that can happen is for their human to be lawfully executed, according to The Law our Creator gave us. That way the families of the victims are not further punished for the crimes that have been committed against them, and the penalty for the criminal offense is severe enough it should PREVENT the crime. A win-win for everyone involved, including the spirit-Being who committed the murder, who has their memories erased, along with all of the evil they've done in that lifetime, and is then placed in a new body.

The same goes for all of the other capital offenses. They're capital offenses for a reason. And if anyone is actually stupid and selfish enough to think that adultery and sexual perversion "stay in the bedroom", then they're sound asleep spiritually. Open your eyes and look at this world. Thanks to adultery, it's literally FILLED with broken homes, with billions of children growing up with absolutely no idea of what love, fidelity and team-work really are.

The same goes for the sexual perverts and child predators. It's literally destroying the family unit, which is the basic building block of a healthy, civilized society. Is that what you're condoning? You think we should wipe out the family unit, wipe out decency, privacy, and morally upright behavior in favor of eternal "tolerance" for every sexual deviant, adulterer and murderer?

The reason we are being given all of these warnings to change our evil ways is because time is rapidly running out, AS WE'VE BEEN WARNED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

With regard to your attempt to be clever, everyone who is guarding this prison reform school knows full well that this insanity will not be allowed to go on indefinitely, because we would literally kill each other off completely if left to our own devices.

We've been allowed to get to this point, to physically show us our own insanity in a manner that leaves NO DOUBT that we were, and still are, IN THE WRONG. We clearly aren't capable of managing this one tiny planet--which we have almost destroyed--much less the entire universe, as we sought to do.

Perhaps you really can't see where this world is headed on its current path. We are headed toward the total destruction of planet Earth, along with all life on it, including the humans. Right now your human can still breathe air, so it thinks everything will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday. But it won't, as the real you (the spirit-Being inside) intuitively knows.

This war in the Middle East that's about to enter its most deadly phase, is going to destroy a third of mankind. Billions will die. And billions more will be murdered through other means as well, including vaccines, as we've likewise been warned about. ALL thanks to a bunch of unpunished and unrepentant habitual criminal who we are "tolerating" in positions of so-called authority. And all proof that the system of tolerance you're advocating simply can NEVER work.

And even when all of this happens, exactly as we've been warned, most will still refuse to humble themselves and admit we do not know better than our Creator. That's how insane this place really is, and why WE are bringing this destruction upon ourselves. Stop looking to blame others. It isn't anyone else's fault but ours.


There's only one way for that to happen: for all of us to admit we're in the wrong, remember who and what we really are (and why we were sent here), and return to The Law that our Creator gave us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free.

Logically, as long as there are as many opinions of what is right and wrong as there are people on this planet, there will NEVER be peace and harmony. Only when everyone UNITES under a single standard, will there be peace and harmony, and the freedom, justice, safety and security that go hand-in-hand.

The terms Buddha and Christ Explained
I do believe that we need to take some control over ourselves, yes, I am a practicing Buddhist so I understand the notion of renunciation. I also do believe in Karmic consequences, Buddha says that those who kill will have short and violent lives. Obviously their next rebirth is unlikely to be favourable.
 






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So you think that it's much better to let criminals run wild indefinitely, with little or no consequences for their actions, and that somehow, magically, people will learn to do the right thing under that system? What a joke!

The entire purpose of human life here on planet Earth is to learn SELF-CONTROL. Do you get that please?

When a spirit-Being/Soul has lost control of the human they live inside of to the extent that they murder another human, the very best thing that can happen is for their human to be lawfully executed, according to The Law our Creator gave us. That way the families of the victims are not further punished for the crimes that have been committed against them, and the penalty for the criminal offense is severe enough it should PREVENT the crime. A win-win for everyone involved, including the spirit-Being who committed the murder, who has their memories erased, along with all of the evil they've done in that lifetime, and is then placed in a new body.

The same goes for all of the other capital offenses. They're capital offenses for a reason. And if anyone is actually stupid and selfish enough to think that adultery and sexual perversion "stay in the bedroom", then they're sound asleep spiritually. Open your eyes and look at this world. Thanks to adultery, it's literally FILLED with broken homes, with billions of children growing up with absolutely no idea of what love, fidelity and team-work really are.

The same goes for the sexual perverts and child predators. It's literally destroying the family unit, which is the basic building block of a healthy, civilized society. Is that what you're condoning? You think we should wipe out the family unit, wipe out decency, privacy, and morally upright behavior in favor of eternal "tolerance" for every sexual deviant, adulterer and murderer?

The reason we are being given all of these warnings to change our evil ways is because time is rapidly running out, AS WE'VE BEEN WARNED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

With regard to your attempt to be clever, everyone who is guarding this prison reform school knows full well that this insanity will not be allowed to go on indefinitely, because we would literally kill each other off completely if left to our own devices.

We've been allowed to get to this point, to physically show us our own insanity in a manner that leaves NO DOUBT that we were, and still are, IN THE WRONG. We clearly aren't capable of managing this one tiny planet--which we have almost destroyed--much less the entire universe, as we sought to do.

Perhaps you really can't see where this world is headed on its current path. We are headed toward the total destruction of planet Earth, along with all life on it, including the humans. Right now your human can still breathe air, so it thinks everything will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday. But it won't, as the real you (the spirit-Being inside) intuitively knows.

This war in the Middle East that's about to enter its most deadly phase, is going to destroy a third of mankind. Billions will die. And billions more will be murdered through other means as well, including vaccines, as we've likewise been warned about. ALL thanks to a bunch of unpunished and unrepentant habitual criminal who we are "tolerating" in positions of so-called authority. And all proof that the system of tolerance you're advocating simply can NEVER work.

And even when all of this happens, exactly as we've been warned, most will still refuse to humble themselves and admit we do not know better than our Creator. That's how insane this place really is, and why WE are bringing this destruction upon ourselves. Stop looking to blame others. It isn't anyone else's fault but ours.


There's only one way for that to happen: for all of us to admit we're in the wrong, remember who and what we really are (and why we were sent here), and return to The Law that our Creator gave us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free.

Logically, as long as there are as many opinions of what is right and wrong as there are people on this planet, there will NEVER be peace and harmony. Only when everyone UNITES under a single standard, will there be peace and harmony, and the freedom, justice, safety and security that go hand-in-hand.

The terms Buddha and Christ Explained
Nonetheless I'm not equating the fact of Karmic consequences with any kind of justification of capital punishment by some third party. Human beings are often complicated, and the motivations behind actions cannot be simply classified in the dichotomy of Good/Evil.

Furthermore as Buddhist I believe in Compassion, though this can include sometimes the Taming of beings who engage in heavy negativity. Nowhere in this is the death of the person necessary. This applies as much to your "spiritual" notions about "the fire" as your "earthly" notions about proper governance.
 






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I do believe that we need to take some control over ourselves, yes, I am a practicing Buddhist so I understand the notion of renunciation. I also do believe in Karmic consequences, Buddha says that those who kill will have short and violent lives. Obviously their next rebirth is unlikely to be favourable.
Agreed. Karmic consequences are likewise taught in the Bible (e.g. Gal. 6:7), and the terms Buddha and Christ actually mean the same thing: the Anointed/Enlightened One.

All true teachings from our Creator involves self-sacrifice for the good of everyone.
 






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Nonetheless I'm not equating the fact of Karmic consequences with any kind of justification of capital punishment by some third party. Human beings are often complicated, and the motivations behind actions cannot be simply classified in the dichotomy of Good/Evil.

Furthermore as Buddhist I believe in Compassion, though this can include sometimes the Taming of beings who engage in heavy negativity. Nowhere in this is the death of the person necessary. This applies as much to your "spiritual" notions about "the fire" as your "earthly" notions about proper governance.
The criterion for determining right from wrong and good from evil is found in our Creator's Perfect Law which, unsurprisingly, contains the Perfect System of Justice. We don't need to carry out any "third party" rules; we need only live by and enforce our Creator's Law.

There's nothing more compassionate; in fact it is compassionate beyond human understanding that after all of these lives and all of this evil we've done, and all of the pain and misery we've caused each other, and all the destruction we've wrought against our natural surroundings, that all our Creator is asking of us is to come to our senses and STOP BEING SO SELFISH AND EVIL.

Anyone who does that WILL LIVE. Anyone who continues to refuse WILL BURN. Perfect Karma/Divine Justice.
 






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