Apocalypse Prepping

Are you a prepper?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • No

    Votes: 16 66.7%
  • Ain't sayin'

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • No but I'm keeping a list of preppers in my neighborhood

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Total voters
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cajun

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#62
As far as choices between starving or killing are concerned, a mixture of fortitude and faith might be in order.

Practice fasting now while there is no urgency. Not only is it an important part of serious prayer for believers, it is also a good discipline to accomplish two things: it will teach your mind not to panic because of the sensation of hunger and it will kick your metabolism into high gear so that you will digest food more efficiently even when times are normal.

Christians know that God is our provider. He never requires us to kill in order to get something. It is a denial of faith to do so.

We do have the right to defend ourselves, but never to kill for gain.
 





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#63
What do you mean "going to start in the Middle East"? You don't know about the genocide of the Coptic Christians and, in fact, all Christians that has been going on for almost twenty years?

That's what I can't wrap my head around. People who cannot see that in the Biblical accounts of Tribulation, only the Christians actually experience it. Everyone else is either gleefully doing Satanic stuff or they are obliviously living in an addicted stupor or they are trying to explain it all wiith economic and social theories.

What do you mean "going to start in the Middle East"?
Just what I said...Where are the events in the bible portrayed? In the Middle East. This Jesus was a Jew from the Middle East. So anything that starts will start there....This Tribulation you speak of has been harped on by Christians for who knows how long and it has not happened yet...If it does which I doubt, this Gods final judgement on Israel is part of it....You see there again it falls right back where it all started the "Middle East"! Armageddon the mother of all battles if it happens will happen there the showdown between good and evil...There again it falls right back to where it all started the Middle East!

You want to speak of how Christians have been beat down and abused and so forth but what about all the beat down and abusing Christianity did? Especially to the Pagans....DO not make out like Christianity is some virgin angel that has a clean rap sheet please...because it don't...And its not the only religion thats been abused and degraded, Islam comes to mind here. Yet its OK to bash one religion and not the other! No religion is perfect and neither are the people that practice them!

And if you sit around and wait for some higher power to step in when the shit hits the fan you may end up road kill for the buzzards because from what I have seen God if he exists does not care weather anyone dies or not....It's best you look out for you because no one else is going to!

The most dangerous word in the world is FAITH it can move mountains and start wars and its track record is a prime example of that.
 





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#64
I researched "prepping" five or six years ago. When I started making lists and contigencies I realized I needed to be a multi-millionaire and live where there is no sign of civilization within at least 50 miles of my homestead, to truly prep for everything and be able to hide or defend my supplies in a crisis and cover every contingency.

I'm an Engineer so everyday I analyze risk, plan contigencies etc, so I have some experience in this area. My conclusion is that prepping will likely end up being a waste of time and money for 95% of the people who attempt to do it. You are also going to have to be willing to kill other people if you want your prepping plan to suceed in a full blown crisis. Even If your "neighbors" don't overtake you and your supplies, then the government probably will come confiscate it anyways...

You have a slightly better chance by learning skills that will be helpful in crisis situation than relying on stocking supplies to get you through. Skills like self defence, first aid, wilderness survival, etc. Stock piles at best just delay the inevitable.
 





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#65
Compare what I'm talking about with how most Americans live.

I'm talking about having enough food and basic supplies on hand to be able to shelter-in-place for at least a few months in the event of emergency, whether it is natural disaster or civil disruption. This allows you to think and pray about what is going on while you decide if you need to stay or leave.

Most people are not prepared to last even a week without running to the grocery store and they don't know what to do when convenience foods are either no longer available or are unacceptable. They don't have the basic skills to turn a supply of shortening and flour into biscuits or to provide veggies and protein from their own garden.

The fact that all groups are historically guilty of violence against others is irrelevant, except maybe to point out the high likelihood that you will face violence yourself, no matter what you believe. And suggesting that it is foolish to prep unless you know you are facing The, Biblical Tribulation is like saying you should not seek shelter in a small tornado. If a tornado hits your house, it ain't small, even if the news only covers the one that takes out a town.

Christians have a duty to prep because we can then remain calm and available to help, even to share, in times of trouble.

My city went through a four-day water shutdown last year. The people who were panicking were the ones who were running out to the stores and demanding water. THE FIRST DAY!

Those of us who always keep some gallons of water did not panic and by the second day it became obvious that the shutdown was unnecessary because the water was not contaminated but people who were already in a state of panic could be manipulated and were manipulated. The whole thing turned out to be a political hoax.

So, what's wrong wiith prepping?
 





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Nothing wrong with prepping....Its the people who don't prepare now that may pay later...Key is you cannot prep for every disaster that comes down the pike or it will get expensive in a hurry.....
 





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#67
Well that's just being realistic. The first thing a prepper has to do is ignore the marketing and just work on a plan fitted to one's own resources, skills, and most-likely-scenarios.

For example I am in a modest residential neighborhood separated from the mainland by a canal. I would not worry too much about urban unrest or roving gangs, but I could face being cut off if the bridge is blocked.
 





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#68
I used to think the apocalypse was going to happen "any day now", but now I think they have to drain us a little bit more before that will actually happen.
 





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No. But I'm a bit fatter so I can go for a while without eating much and I figure by the time I am in need of food I'll stumble across a dead body and find out if people really taste like pork.

In reality, I'm not really in a situation where I can prep. I'm the caretaker of an elderly father, so I don't really have much money to together supplies that will just be gone in a couple of weeks anyway.
 





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No. But I'm a bit fatter so I can go for a while without eating much and I figure by the time I am in need of food I'll stumble across a dead body and find out if people really taste like pork.

In reality, I'm not really in a situation where I can prep. I'm the caretaker of an elderly father, so I don't really have much money to together supplies that will just be gone in a couple of weeks anyway.
I am very poor by American standards. I've developed a system that allows a slow build-up of supplies on a very tight budget.

First, recognize that the most basic unprocessed foods are the key to survival. Set aside one of those plastic 20-gal tubs. Each month add one bulk item to it: a 25lb sack of flour, a gallon of oil, etc. Each bulk item like that would represent at least a month of rationed supply. Once you have flour, oil, dry beans, rice, and sugars you can start tossing in the occasional can of tuna or meat. These are foods you wouldn't be tempted to eat right away like you would if you were storing up boxes of pancake mix or canned soups.

If you watch your progress over time, you'll be surprised how well you'll do by the end of one year. That full bin will provide some relief from stress even if the only emergency we face is inflation.
 





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No. But I'm a bit fatter so I can go for a while without eating much and I figure by the time I am in need of food I'll stumble across a dead body and find out if people really taste like pork.

In reality, I'm not really in a situation where I can prep. I'm the caretaker of an elderly father, so I don't really have much money to together supplies that will just be gone in a couple of weeks anyway.
Food and water are very important items and should always be considered before anything else. That said you can go longer without food than water so a good water supply is essential.
 





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