The two are not at odds. Zionism did not begin a hundred years after communism began. They basically coincide as ideas that were born in the 19th century. "The Jewish State" that was written by Theodore Herzl was written fifty years after the communist manifesto.Where do you get your information from?
Marx was not a Zionist. Communism, which predated Zionism by at least 100 years, has as one of it's tenets the abolition of the state. Zionism is by nature a nationalist movement. You can see how they might be at odds with each other.
The question that Marx wrote a book addressing was whether or not Jews should have to repudiate their Jewishness to become free citizens. It had nothing to do with Zionism or a Jewish state. You are stretching the facts to the point of snapping if you really think Marx had anything to do with the Zionist movement.
That's not true. Again, where do you get your information? The only people I know who seriously promote this idea are neo-nazis.
You don't really believe that, do you? It's a pretty foolish premise.
Over and over again we are told that the Jewish state is propped up by the might and wealth of America. Can you think of a good reason why Zionists would want to undermine and destroy that power and wealth?
Yep. Public servants, in the public eye have invited that public scrutiny.When the governor of NJ - Christie - decided to wage a public campaign blaming all the states economics problems on public servants (teachers, police, firefighters, CPS workers etc) and pushed to raise healthcare payments by these workers to absurd levels and completely deplete their pensions... I sincerely considered staging a protest at his house - the governors mansion. I was legally advised not to because I would be arrested and charged for some pretty crazy shit due to the venue (I don't remember what anymore this was in 2010). I don't see why protesting at a politicians house is a problem, the whole point of protest is doing it somewhere that will get the most attention for your cause and hopefully make it most likely the person who can do something will see/hear what you are trying to say.
They've been trying to stop protests on all sides for years. Passing laws. Using extreme policing to break them up. This is atleast since the original occupy. No one on the right gave a shit until recently.. wonder why.
Excellent post, and I have a follow up question for you. Do you feel the recent push for Americans to sign loyalty oaths and promises not to engage in BDS activities is in the same vein as what is being discussed here?Free speech was always being threatened. No one cared until now. When swat teams broke up non violent occupy protests free speech was threatened. When they passed laws that u can't protest where secret service is present free speech was threatened. When governments started making their employees sign gag orders in exchange for a job and virtually eliminated their right to protest by dilineating approved times venues free speech was threatened. We could go on and on here. The same people calling on free speech now were applauding or atleast staying silent then.
I was concerned the whole time. Others didn't start complaining until their right to racist hateful shit came into question. Sorry if I can't overlook the hypocrisy.
Zionism Vs. Communism: Secret Allies?
April 6, 2017
Churchill was wrong when he said
Israel was the best solution for
the Jewish question.
As events unfold in Syria, we see that
Soros' Communism & Trump's Zionism
are not competitors. They are
two pincers holding humanity
in its malevolent grip.
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
It appears that the fate of the world hangs on a turf war between two branches of the Masonic Jewish Conspiracy for world hegemony.
In 1920, Winston Churchill said Communist Jews and Zionist Jews were in a "struggle for the soul of the Jewish people," a struggle "between good and evil."
Today this "conflict" is played out between George Soros and his toadies in the Democratic Party (Communism) versus Donald Trump and his dupes (Zionism).
The American people are just onlookers hoping a few crumbs will fall from the table. Now that the election charade is over, they are powerless. The same applies to Churchill's "national Jews" who, like myself, owe their first loyalty to the country in which they live.
Trump's brazenly deceitful use of the chemical attack false flag as apretext to attack Syriaplaces him squarely in the Zionist camp, and on a collision path with Russia and Iran. Americans are sick of being used as a surrogate for Zionist imperial ambitions. Trump has proven that he is a Zionist errand boy. CNN and The New York Times are applauding. This enforces fears that the Mossad own Trump.
(Mossad Blackmail- Tempering Our Expectations of Trump.)
Trump has betrayed his campaign promise to the American people to avoid interventions and defuse tensions with Russia. He has lost a considerable segment of his support, certainly enough topoison his Presidency and ensure he doesn't get re-elected.
Bashar al-Assad's father Hafez said Israel was "a knife in the heart of the Middle East." Events have proven him prophetic. The Yinon Plan aims at fragmenting Arab countries. In Benjamin Netanyahu's words, Israel is destined to be "a rising global power" while the US does its dirty work.
IS THE STRUGGLE REAL?
In 1920, Winston Churchill, left, wrote: "It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical."
However, in retrospect it seems that Judaism can't take credit for Christ. Communism and Zionism are actually different paths to Masonic Jewish (satanic) world tyranny.
Churchill began by acknowledging what few are willing to admit even today, that Communism is Jewish: "this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing... It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; ... and [has] ripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and... become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
Churchill endorsed Zionism as a counterweight and challenger to Communism:
"Zionism has already become a factor in the political convulsions of Russia, as a powerful competing influence in Bolshevik circles with the international communistic system. Nothing could be more significant than the fury with which Trotsky
has attacked the Zionists generally, and Dr. [Chaim] Weizman in particular. The cruel penetration of his mind leaves him in no doubt that his schemes of a world-wide communistic State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted and hindered by this new ideal, which directs the energies and the hopes of Jews in every land towards a simpler, a truer, and a far more attainable goal. The struggle which is now beginning between the Zionist and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for the soul of the Jewish people."
Obviously Churchill was wrong. Israel's goal is not simpler or truer. Organized Jewry, both in its Communist or Zionist form, is dedicated to sabotaging the human experiment so that it may introduce its tyranny.
According to the Protocols of Zion, their goal is: "To wear everyone out by dissensions, animosities, feuds, famine, inoculation of diseases, want, until the Gentiles sees no other way of escape except by appeal to our money and our power." (Protocol 10)
"We will so wear out and exhaust the Gentiles by all this that they will be compelled to offer us an international authority, which by its position will enable us to absorb without disturbance all the governmental forces of the world and thus form a super-government." (Protocol 5)
I have already pointed out that both Communism and Zionism are branches of Freemasonry. However, I have been unable to find additional information that would illuminate the true relationship between Communism and Zionism. Rather than competitors, they seem like two pincers holding the world in its malevolent grip. Can a reader enlighten me?
Related - Makow- Have Americans Been NeoConned?
Did Trump Cut a Deal with NeoCons in Syria?
First Comment from John C
At the end of your most recent article you asked if there was a connection between communism and zionism. Have you read the works of Moses Hess (1812 - 1875)? He was Karl Marx's teacher and also advocated for a race based socialist state of Israel. The Holy History of Mankind and Rome and Jerusalem are both dedicated to the idea of creating many national socialist states (Jewish and otherwise) that would be merged into a global socialism. He also foretold a race war between Germans and Jews.
that was an interesting time. i dont know if all of those at seattle were specifically leftists-- they were, as far as im concerned, simply informed citizens standing up for themselves. in the video, theres people flying the american flag... the only american flag youd see today on the side of the leftists is a burning one.At least the left are willing to protest against the banks and globalists.
That was a unique time. Reminds me of what you said about life before 9/11. There were 40,000 protesters at that WTO gathering (though exact numbers seem unreliable). To echo what you brought up, the march to downtown was actually organized by the AFL-CIO. So it was labor and environmental that were granted permits that the rioters subverted.that was an interesting time. i dont know if all of those at seattle were specifically leftists-- they were, as far as im concerned, simply informed citizens standing up for themselves. in the video, theres people flying the american flag... the only american flag youd see today on the side of the leftists is a burning one.
a damn shame that the police provocateurs, as usual, ruined it. the same thing happened at occupy wall street: it started out good, then the police began to undermine it, people wanting to party and riot showed up, diluting the message and the cause, and it turned into a disaster.
I have a similar story. I marched in a Occupy Wall Street rally and I can tell you it was set up right from the start. The march was OK but soon after shills started a tent city and demanded that Wall Street 'share the wealth' or they wouldn't leave. Media was all over it. The public was outraged and turned on the gimme gang. This went on for weeks. The whole purpose of the event was forgotten.the same thing happened at occupy wall street:
I might suggest that, in the USA, plenty of the members of the far right, in contrast to the leftist and anarchist antifa, are found in various militia movements (think Timothy McVeigh), in such little-reported secessionist movements as, for instance, the (excuse, here, the source ===>) Republic of Texas, and among readers of Eustace Mullins. These people are generally distrustful of any federal government, and vice-versa (think Ruby Ridge and Branch Davidian at Waco), and don't usually salute the Federal Reserve Bank's flag, so to speak. They are often both monitored by and reported upon by such influential "watchdog" agencies, on the left, as the SPLC.Let me ask this: where is the opposition to predatory globalism, Wall St., and the banks from the right? Farmers getting sheisted, whatever was left of manufacturing in these smaller cities being shipped off, teachers and fire-fighters that can't afford their medical premiums. Where is the real Tea Party? This goes back to the right-left divide but if we could all agree on a basic platform there could be a peaceful, democratic revolution.
I bookmarked the Mises institute, thanks.I might suggest that, in the USA, plenty of the members of the far right, in contrast to the leftist and anarchist antifa, are found in various militia movements (think Timothy McVeigh), in such little-reported secessionist movements as, for instance, the (excuse, here, the source ===>) Republic of Texas, and among readers of Eustace Mullins. These people are generally distrustful of any federal government, and vice-versa (think Ruby Ridge and Branch Davidian at Waco), and don't usually salute the Federal Reserve Bank's flag, so to speak. They are often both monitored by and reported upon by such influential "watchdog" agencies, on the left, as the SPLC.
Moving away from the extreme of the pole, more to the libertarian, center/right, one can listen to lectures by economists at one of their favorite coffee shops, not Starbucks, mind you , but the Mises Institute, where the so called "Austrian School of Economics" is on tap. Far from being "radical," it seems to me that the Mises Institute and related think tanks are more "reformationist," and Constitutionalist. They often do include sharp criticisms of monetary policy, certainly, but also sometimes, if rarely, take aim at the Federal Reserve Bank itself (think "audit the Fed" Ron Paul).
Anyway, these are some suggestions and things which came to mind.
I think it's called alt-light and alt-right (think "Pepe" memes). The alt-right, which has lately separated itself from what they often call the "cucked" alt-light, not only here in the States but especially in Europe, have always been more or less "identitarian," and that includes racial, tribal and national identity as well (think Victor Orban vs. George Soros in Hungary). The movement, born with feet, is lately growing legs.Part of what I was asking was about a popular movement, something at least noticeable on social media.
Do you mean fringe as in insignificant or as in extreme (or something else)? At any rate, I did place them on the American far right.The militia movement is extremely fringe IMO ...
And that they successfully did. But there was more: Trump, especially during his campaign, at times sounded reminiscent of Barry Goldwater.Essentially the true populist movement of conservative America was to defeat Clinton, and that's it.
When the Tea Party were first forming, I watched as they almost immediately transmuted from being what seemed a coalition of largely disaffected (from the "system") Democrats and Republicans, with potential, to a herd of Republican sheep with Glen Beck as shepherd. In this, I can also commiserate with @Frank Badfinger's experience with Occupy Wall Street: popular movements, whether they arise on the right or left, are often immediately co-opted -they are aborted in utero.I just looked up the tea party and their main concern today is defending their billionaire president. They have the same trite concerns generally- immigration and "evil socialism". The same narrative that's been retold on the nightly- news by Drumph for 5 years now, which is a giant distraction for the trans-national corporations and tech companies. There's no questioning of the billionaire class or the lending institutions that bleed us dry. It's a strange phenomenon the way the poor tend to deify the ultra-wealthy in this society.
They should invite Code Pink for a date: dinner and a movie .Happy to say I found a conservative group I CAN support and follow: REDNECKREVOLT.ORG
WE STAND AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACY
WE BELIEVE IN TRUE LIBERTY FOR ALL PEOPLE
WE STAND FOR ORGANIZED DEFENSE OF OUR COMMUNITIES
WE ARE WORKING CLASS AND POOR PEOPLE
WE ARE AN ABOVEGROUND MILITANT FORMATION
WE STAND AGAINST THE NATION-STATE AND ITS FORCES WHICH PROTECT THE BOSSES AND THE RICH
WE STAND AGAINST CAPITALISM
WE STAND AGAINST THE WARS OF THE RICH
WE STAND AGAINST PATRIARCHY
WE BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT OF MILITANT RESISTANCE
WE BELIEVE IN THE NEED FOR REVOLUTION
Ok the "patriarchy" part is a little off but hey none of us is perfect.
I was there and I can confirm that the protests were made up of a massive coalition of groups and organizations as well as many thousands of individuals who were independent from any collective. It was way too big to have just been left, right or center dominated. We were all united and stood side-by-side w/each other, and toe-to-toe with the man.At least the left are willing to protest against the banks and globalists. The transexuals posted aren't even antifa.