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Besides it's not biblical but just an assumption to suppose that a third temple must be built before the great tribulation.
Nope!
Revelation‬ ‭11:1-2‬ ‭​

Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, “Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months.​
That verse on the surface seems to suggest that a third temple will be built before the great tribulation... but is this a correct interpretation ? The temple of God since Jesus Christ has not been a building but the body of believers. Also this verse seems to suggest that the Gentiles will be in control of the Old City of Jerusalem just before Jesus returns. So are the Jews going to loose or relinquish control of the Old City ? Time will tell...


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‭‭‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭​

Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.​
Again the temple of God has not been a building since Jesus Christ.
 





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That verse on the surface seems to suggest that a third temple will be built before the great tribulation... but is this a correct interpretation ? The temple of God since Jesus Christ has not been a building but the body of believers. Also this verse seems to suggest that the Gentiles will be in control of the Old City of Jerusalem just before Jesus returns. So are the Jews going to loose or relinquish control of the Old City ? Time will tell...




Again the temple of God has not been a building since Jesus Christ.
The gentiles, meaning the muslims are in control of the Temple Mount where they have their third holiest mosque. The verses in Revelation are saying that the temple builds around that mosque, they aren’t going to destroy it to have the mosque. They don’t want to upset the muslims. Plus they will only get tot build that mosque there because of a treaty..the muslims already make it hard for the Jews to ascend the Temple Mount and they can’t pray up there..so it would have to be some sort of deal in place for it to get built.

The Jews rejected Jesus so they don’t know that they don’t need a building, they do need the building to come close to God again with the sacrifices.
Daniel tells us there will be a renewed to the sacrifices so i.e. there will be a new temple to do the sacrificing from.
Daniel‬ ‭11:31‬ ‭‬‬
Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation.​
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Daniel‬ ‭12:11‬ ‭
From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.​
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The gentiles, meaning the muslims are in control of the Temple Mount where they have their third holiest mosque. ‭‭
The Jews restored control over the Old City on June 7 1967 during the Six Day War... but handed over control of the Temple Mount to the Muslims. That's right... but the two Temples of God of Israel didn't stand on the Temple Mount which was built by Herod the Great where a Roman legion camped during the time of Jesus Christ.

The two Temples stood on the Ophel in the City of David about a couple of hundred yards south of the Al Aqsa mosque. That's right... not a stone is left of the Temple of God.



The Jews rejected Jesus so they don’t know that they don’t need a building, they do need the building to come close to God again with the sacrifices.‭‭
Jesus Christ is the once and for all sufficient sacrifice for sins.

You don't seem to understand that and so you need to repent. You are lacking...



Daniel tells us there will be a renewed to the sacrifices so i.e. there will be a new temple to do the sacrificing from.
Daniel‬ ‭11:31‬ ‭‬‬​

Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation.​
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Daniel‬ ‭12:11‬ ‭​

From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.​
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These are most likely fulfilled prophecies... the first fulfilled in the time of Antiochus Epiphanes and the second fulfilled in the time of Jesus Christ. Not every prophecy is about our time you know... or didn't you know ?
 





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The Jews restored control over the Old City on June 7 1967 during the Six Day War... but handed over control of the Temple Mount to the Muslims. That's right... but the two Temples of God of Israel didn't stand on the Temple Mount which was built by Herod the Great where a Roman legion camped during the time of Jesus Christ.

The two Temples stood on the Ophel in the City of David about a couple of hundred yards south of the Al Aqsa mosque. That's right... not a stone is left of the Temple of God.
Why is the Temple Mount the holiest place to Jews then? Because the temples stood there...

Jesus Christ is the once and for all sufficient sacrifice for sins.

You don't seem to understand that and so you need to repent. You are lacking...
Sure, I know Jesus is...but the Jews don’t know and that is what I was getting at, so they do think building a temple will get them back to God.

These are most likely fulfilled prophecies... the first fulfilled in the time of Antiochus Epiphanes and the second fulfilled in the time of Jesus Christ. Not every prophecy is about our time you know... or didn't you know ?
But they aren’t fulfilled prophecies but prophecies to be fulfilled.

We could very well be the generation that sees those prophecies fulfilled. The Jews are in their land again and there’s definitely birthing pangs going on and the increase in lawlessness...in the very least we are closer than we’ve been to the return of Christ, not further.
 





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Why is the Temple Mount the holiest place to Jews then? Because the temples stood there...
The Jews don't even understand that their own Scriptures clearly point to Jesus Christ as the Messiah... they are religiously ignorant of just about anything pertaining to God.


Sure, I know Jesus is...but the Jews don’t know and that is what I was getting at, so they do think building a temple will get them back to God.
What the Jews think is not what God thinks. God is not going to accomodate the religious ignorance of the Jews. Nevertheless God will open their eyes as to who the Messiah is... because He said He will do it and so it's just a matter of time.


But they aren’t fulfilled prophecies but prophecies to be fulfilled.
A lot of prophecies have already been fulfilled. It is a mistake to suppose that every prophecy is yet to be fulfilled.


We could very well be the generation that sees those prophecies fulfilled.
For sure within months...
 





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The Jews don't even understand that their own Scriptures clearly point to Jesus Christ as the Messiah... they are religiously ignorant of just about anything pertaining to God.
Romans‬ ‭11:11, 25‬ ‭
I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.

For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.​
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A lot of prophecies have already been fulfilled. It is a mistake to suppose that every prophecy is yet to be fulfilled.
There’s a lot to be fulfilled yet.

For sure within months...
Ya never know. Which ones do you think?
 





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Romans‬ ‭11:11, 25‬ ‭​

I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.​


For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.​


And so the Jews are not to be consulted in matters of God because they are hardened and blinded by God.
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They are truly running out of time to build a third temple... besides a third temple is not necessarily the correct biblical interpretation.

Anyway time will tell...
I don’t think they are, it will be built at the right time.
It has to be built, the antichrist commits the abomination of desolation in it.
 





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No we are not, we are getting closer but we aren’t there yet.
Why do you think we are there?
We are in the middle of the 70th and last week since there is a specific timeline in the Bible given by Gabriel to Daniel which when properly understood informs us that we are in the middle of the 70th and last week.
 





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We are in the middle of the 70th and last week since there is a specific timeline in the Bible given by Gabriel to Daniel which when properly understood informs us that we are in the middle of the 70th and last week.
So what informed you that we were in the middle though?