Anti-Capitalism

mecca

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Native Americans, for one, disagree. So...
No... Native Americans didn't have private property. They held land in common with the other members of their tribes. People lived off of the land, they didn't claim private ownership over it. When Europeans came to America, they stole the land and claimed ownership over it. They privatized the Native American's land through force. They claimed the right to use the land and sell the land.
When and where was this philosophy held?
Across the world for the vast majority of human history. Thousands of years. People shared land amongst their communities and everyone had equal rights to use the land. The concept of private property is recent and it was spread through colonization and imperialism. In Europe beginning around 1760 there were large scale privatizations of common lands through forced enclosure. Rich and powerful people used the government to forcefully enclose collectively managed land. They used violence against the people who were using the land so that they could take it for themselves and their own personal uses. Before then, the land was held in common by the people who used it. This was further spread through colonization.
Other than California in the 60s?
Lol, you must have a weak understanding of history. Private property is not a state of nature. In order to claim ownership over land that was once freely used by the people who lived on it, you have to take it by force and threaten anyone who tries to use it with violence. The only basis you have for claiming private ownership over land that was once collective is that you were able to use force and violence against the other people who were using it... but might doesn't make right.
 

irrationalNinja

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Capitalism literally grew directly out of feudalism and it maintained a similar structure.
It is the hierarchical structure you are complaining about. It didn’t literally grow out of anything. I heirarchical structure, at its most basic level, is what humans throughout history have found necessary to create while improving and advancing their society.

Heirarchical structures are ancient. Before “the patriarchy”, long before the slave traders, the conquistadors, before the monarchy, and even before anything was written about...God, people were forming hierarchical relationships. While beneficial in many instances, a hierarchy based on the values of the world tends toward corruption.
 
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