Another Perspective On Lgbtq

Aero

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Exactly. There is a reason transexual men have to get hormones to make their voices more feminine because they have male hormones in the first place, showing that it is based on their warped brain chemistry and not their endocrine system. If they have the genitalia of a man then they are men, period.
Yeah, this topic is a pretty good example of the mind-body problem. There is a wide range of conditions that cover both sides of that equation equally. So you can pick your side, or you can select your poison.

My argument states that you wouldn't call a blind person warped just because he has eyes. Suppose a person can be born with eyes that don't work or an arm that doesn't work. Then a person can have with a dick that doesn't work.

I feel like I just won 2020 bingo. Either way, conditions like body dysmorphia don't always originate in the mind.
 

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Yeah, this topic is a pretty good example of the mind-body problem. There is a wide range of conditions that cover both sides of that equation equally. So you can pick your side, or you can select your poison.

My argument states that you wouldn't call a blind person warped just because he has eyes. Suppose a person can be born with eyes that don't work or an arm that doesn't work. Then a person can have with a dick that doesn't work.

I feel like I just won 2020 bingo. Either way, conditions like body dysmorphia don't always originate in the mind.
Whether or not they have body parts that don’t work has nothing to do with lying to yourself about being a different gender or its ok to have sex with the same sex...because that ultimately is what people are doing.
 

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Whether or not they have body parts that don’t work has nothing to do with lying to yourself about being a different gender or its ok to have sex with the same sex...because that ultimately is what people are doing.
Somehow you strung together an appeal to hypocrisy with a strawman argument that is also contradictory. The sweeping generalization where you conflated psychology with your religious mumbo jumbo is the icing on the cake. More importantly, I’m not here to play fallacy bingo with you.

In essence, you imply people lying to themselves have proper functioning brains. Yes, in Lisa’s world, everyone’s mind is warped by “sin” and “socialism.” But who can say for sure what that is even supposed to mean? Like, wow newsflash, everyone, body dysmorphia can be solved by Lisa’s version of Psychology 101. Stop lying to yourselves yall, problem solved!
 

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People used to know this and not question it...it’s a strange world where people are confused about the whole thing...
It goes back to the foolish idea of everything in society being "socially constructed", therefore everything is morally subjective according to these individuals who seek to normalize deviant behaviour. You could even argue that murdering innocent people is ok according to this philosphical belief because the idea that murder is morally reprehensible is just a "social construct".
 
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And their shennanigans make the actual transexuals (intersex, hermaphrodite, etc.), who have actual, physical abnormalities at birth, take the backseat and not enough attention.
 

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Somehow you strung together an appeal to hypocrisy with a strawman argument that is also contradictory. The sweeping generalization where you conflated psychology with your religious mumbo jumbo is the icing on the cake. More importantly, I’m not here to play fallacy bingo with you.

In essence, you imply people lying to themselves have proper functioning brains. Yes, in Lisa’s world, everyone’s mind is warped by “sin” and “socialism.” But who can say for sure what that is even supposed to mean? Like, wow newsflash, everyone, body dysmorphia can be solved by Lisa’s version of Psychology 101. Stop lying to yourselves yall, problem solved!
No...people are warped by sin...sin being lawlessness. Lawless against what God’s laws are...that’s the main boiled down problem all people have.

Ya...stop lying to yourself...problem solved. Be the gender you are..problem solved. Have sex with the opposite sex...problem solved.
 

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It goes back to this idea of everything in society being "socially constructed", therefore everything is morally subjective. You could even argue that murdering innocent people is ok according to this philosphical belief because the idea that murder is morally reprehensible is just a social construct.
Those thing aren’t a social construct as much as God saying this is good. It‘s a rebellion against God, what He created and what He calls good.
 

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Those thing aren’t a social construct as much as God saying this is good. It‘s a rebellion against God, what He created and what He calls good.
I agree, good and bad are based on what God says and not human beings. Probably should have worded this different. Am being sarcastic a bit here. I am saying that social constructionism is the foundation of those who say this deviant behaviour is normal. Yeah, was being a bit satirical. Probably should have made that more clear. Will edit my post so it is not misunderstood.
 

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...well... sure enuf... Frank B just showed me the door on his Covid thread....
...but suggested that it may be a better fit here....
...so... here's a c/p of what used to be on the Covid thread....
...just feel like some folks need to know what just happened here on my 'sending' end.... with Google and Comcast....
...directly related to what's being discussed here... it would appear... (???).... maybe...???...

... hoping this one 'fits' within the parameters of the discussion thread... (I'm sure Frank will let me know)... ;) ...
...but... hear me out folks.... this is important.... I tried to send this exact same c/p email to a bunch of my buds last nite...
...and woke up this morning to 6 (six) 'bounce-backs' saying that "the email address could not be found"....
...which has NEVER happened before with these same bud's emails....:oops:... ???...
...already heard back from two of said buds who are baffled why this would have happened.... (they have not 'blocked' me)....
...all sent from a Google Chrome laptop, which I've been using for several years, with no problems or issues....
...running thru Comcast/Xfinity as provider of wifi service... (not my choice.... HOA requirement)....:rolleyes:...
...it may appear that the below info is considered to be too 'toxic' to travel thru their electrons... ???....
...just something to be aware of, folks...
...and, Frank... if you want me to move this post to some other thread, just lemme know in 'Conversations'.... with apologies, ahead of time....


'Go and sin no more' could land you in jail
Christians warned of criminal charges for criticizing LGBT lifestyle


Christians in the United Kingdom and Canada are being warned that foundational religious beliefs and practices soon could be criminalized under laws banning the counseling of people seeking help with unwanted sexual attraction.
...more at link....

https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/go-sin-no-land-jail/
 
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Belgium to deport homophobic imam appointed by Turkey's religious authority
said that "homosexuality is an illness, causes decay and is forbidden by Islam."

this is not even "hate" speech.

Like the cancel culture, we have a deport culture? "Deport" looks more terrifying than "cancel". You are not only displaced from your job but also from your place. This is more reminiscent of the Ministry of Truth and Room 101.

If they are Muslim, they are sent to their old country. This means something to the natives of Belgium(and western world). When a Christian says this, when they can't deport you to another country, where will they send you?
 
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sickgirl15

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Nah, it is a choice to me but as long as they don't shove it down our throats or force feed the debunked mentality of "born like this". they can do whatever they want. Sexual relations of two consenting adults is none of our business.
Hi, I’m a happy bisexual woman (I know the talk is on gender variance), but I would like everyone to know that what turns me on sexually is definitely NOT my choice. This is strange, but when I was a little girl, I was a tomboy, and I distinctly remember putting toilet paper down the front of my underwear so I had a lump like a dick! (I did this at home only). My father really wanted a boy first, (my brother is 3 yrs younger than me) so he taught me how to play baseball (I was the only girl on the team, and was DESIGNATED HITTER!!) I also played second base & left field. I was a tomboy, but I also played with Barbie Dolls. (But not like an average little girl did, I promise you). I made them r*pe each other, fight, I cut their hair into Mohawks, tied them up, you name it! I remember finding a porn magazine next to a garbage can in a park. It fascinated me! I taught myself how to have an orgasm VERY young, and watched MTV and realized I was turned on by big breasted women (like me haha)! I was also attracted to men. I can go online and look at sexy brunette women with large breasts in photos or a video and give myself an orgasm. I have never done the same activity looking at naked guys. I’m telling you, this is not a choice. I’d much rather be straight or a lesbian (yeah, I’d rather be 100% lesbian that heterosexual. Heterosexual women are STILL, in the year 2021, expected to have kids, marry a man, etc. I’m ecstatic about my gorgeous dog. I used to hang out with tons of trannies & drag queens in the past! LGBT people (like me) seem to have way more fun than straight people who are STILL hiding in the closet. “Clothes are for washing, not for people hiding in!” haha)! I tried to have sex with a gay man. He could NOT get hard at all. Other guys turn him on and get him hard. Gay men/ women should not be “punished” for having a different sexual preference than anyone!!
 
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