America - Mystery of Babylon/Zionism - The Occult Guild Of Antichrist A Christian Perspective

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Revelation 17 NIV

Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast

1One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. 2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

3Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5The name written on her forehead was a mystery:

BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9“This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

12“The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

15Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

Revelation 18 NIV

Lament Over Fallen Babylon

1After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2With a mighty voice he shouted:

“ ‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ a
She has become a dwelling for demons
and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
3For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment

4Then I heard another voice from heaven say:

“ ‘Come out of her, my people,’ b
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5for her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.
6Give back to her as she has given;
pay her back double for what she has done.
Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
7Give her as much torment and grief
as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
‘I sit enthroned as queen.
I am not a widow; c
I will never mourn.’
8Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
Threefold Woe Over Babylon’s Fall

9“When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:

“ ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
you mighty city of Babylon!
In one hour your doom has come!’
11“The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

14“They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ 15The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn 16and cry out:

“ ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
17In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’
“Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off. 18When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, ‘Was there ever a city like this great city?’ 19They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out:

“ ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
where all who had ships on the sea
became rich through her wealth!
In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’
20“Rejoice over her, you heavens!
Rejoice, you people of God!
Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
For God has judged her
with the judgment she imposed on you.”
The Finality of Babylon’s Doom

21Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:

“With such violence
the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
never to be found again.
22The music of harpists and musicians, pipers and trumpeters,
will never be heard in you again.
No worker of any trade
will ever be found in you again.
The sound of a millstone
will never be heard in you again.
23The light of a lamp
will never shine in you again.
The voice of bridegroom and bride
will never be heard in you again.
Your merchants were the world’s important people.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
24In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”





 

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Revelation 17 NIV

Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast

1One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. 2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

3Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5The name written on her forehead was a mystery:

BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9“This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

12“The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

15Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

Revelation 18 NIV

Lament Over Fallen Babylon

1After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2With a mighty voice he shouted:

“ ‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ a
She has become a dwelling for demons
and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
3For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment

4Then I heard another voice from heaven say:

“ ‘Come out of her, my people,’ b
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5for her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.
6Give back to her as she has given;
pay her back double for what she has done.
Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
7Give her as much torment and grief
as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
‘I sit enthroned as queen.
I am not a widow; c
I will never mourn.’
8Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
Threefold Woe Over Babylon’s Fall

9“When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:

“ ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
you mighty city of Babylon!
In one hour your doom has come!’
11“The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

14“They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ 15The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn 16and cry out:

“ ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
17In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’
“Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off. 18When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, ‘Was there ever a city like this great city?’ 19They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out:

“ ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
where all who had ships on the sea
became rich through her wealth!
In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’
20“Rejoice over her, you heavens!
Rejoice, you people of God!
Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
For God has judged her
with the judgment she imposed on you.”
The Finality of Babylon’s Doom

21Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:

“With such violence
the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
never to be found again.
22The music of harpists and musicians, pipers and trumpeters,
will never be heard in you again.
No worker of any trade
will ever be found in you again.
The sound of a millstone
will never be heard in you again.
23The light of a lamp
will never shine in you again.
The voice of bridegroom and bride
will never be heard in you again.
Your merchants were the world’s important people.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
24In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”





I agree that Dana Ashlie may be right. Certainly makes a compelling argument in any case.
 

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I agree that Dana Ashlie may be right. Certainly makes a compelling argument in any case.
Time is so short, I really do hope and pray that God gives those who are his enough time to get out if they can. I know that it will have an dominos affect on us all. Apparently the mountains is the best to flee to according to Matthew 24:20

16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29“Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it e is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown

36“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, f but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45“Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 

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Zionism - The Occult
Guild Of Antichrist
A Christian Perspective

By Alton Raines


Right now, across the globe, born-again, fundamentalist, bible-believing, evangelical Christians are being led down a path to destruction through a Satanically calculated deception, the roots of which were cultivated in ages past set forth for the final conflict between good and evil on earth. They haven't a clue they are deceived, in fact, they have filled themselves with the cancer of religious pride so as to become perfectly deluded, thinking themselves the correctors of the foolish and those in error. While wrapped up in useless controversies over denominational dogma or mesmerized by modern Christian media with 'end-times' speculations such as 'The Rapture,' a far more sinister undertow of self-imposed blindness drags the Church closer and closer toward the 'great falling away', or 'final apostasy.'

Part and parcel to the Zionist objective by more than one faction of the religio-political movement is the establishment of a third temple in Israel,[1] to be erected on the site of the former temple (destroyed in 70 A.D) on the mount of David, presently occupied by the Islamic 'Dome of the Rock,' which enshrines what they believe to be the stone upon which Abraham was to offer up his only son Isaac as a sacrifice.

This grand desire for a new temple in Jerusalem is shared, as well as financially and politically bolstered, by tens of thousands of evangelical churches (there are actually more non-Jewish Zionists in the world than Jewish due to the overwhelming number of pro-Israel Christians). Repeated attempts by various parties to lay a foundation stone and claim to the holy site since the 60s has always met with extreme opposition by both Islamic and secular Israeli factions, sometimes resulting in riots and bloodshed. The elusive 'third temple' appears to be just beyond the grasp, held at bay by remarkable forces, both seen and unseen. The question is, who is more frustrated... those who presume themselves to be laborers for Christ, or those who are of the occult guild of Antichrist?


What is the purpose of this third temple & who will it serve?

"We should not forget... that the supreme purpose of the ingathering of (Jewish) exiles and the establishment of our state is the building of the temple. The temple is at the very top of the pyramid" [1]

There is only one purpose or need for a third temple, and that is for Jews to return to the full Mosaic Law and temple services which involve animal sacrifice for sins. Equally, there is absolutely no use or need for a temple if there is no Ark of Covenant, upon which the blood must be offered, which has been curiously missing since before the time of Christ. It seems highly unlikely that the present guild of priests in training for temple services[2] would even exist if there were not reliable knowledge of the whereabouts of this centerpiece of the temple and its primary function. All other necessary artifacts for temple service, including the Shemen Afarshimon [3] - an original vial of anointing oil for the high priest - and the reappearance of the red heifer (the ash of which is vital to temple services) are in the possession of these Jewish priests today. The anticipated 'High Priest' is ultimately the awaited Messiah himself. For the Jews, his first appearing. To Christians, his Second Coming from heaven. But in both cases prophecy says first will come the deceiver, The Son of Perdition -- Antichrist.

The prophet Daniel foretold the time of the coming of Messiah, noting that he would appear after seventy weeks of years (as Hebrews counted time) from the signing of a decree to free the Jews from captivity in Babylon to return and rebuild Jerusalem and the temple. This took place in 444 B.C. [4] when Artaxerxes Longimanus, king of Persia (464-423 BC), signed such a decree and allowed the Jews to return. Exactly as according to the prophecy of Daniel, Y'shua of Nazareth (Jesus) presented himself before the people and to the temple as Messiah and King -- only to be rejected by the ruling religious authorities who had conspired against Him from the time of his equally foretold birth.

During the ministry of Christ, he declared publicly, "Tear down this temple and in three days I shall raise it up again," confounding the religious leaders and rabble alike. He was, of course, speaking not of the temple of stone and mortar, but of his own body as the final temple and final sacrifice for sins, as well as his triumphant resurrection from the dead (three days and nights in the tomb) -- forever putting away the need or use of the temple sacrifices of animals, which were merely a representative propitiation until the Messiah should come, offering his own life and blood as the price paid in full, acceptable unto God. The redemption of mankind from spiritual oblivion was not forged in the earthly elements of temples and rituals, but in the very person of Christ, made manifest in the flesh, bringing eternal reconciliation, putting away forever those material elements which merely foreshadowed His fulfillment and accomplishment in the incarnation.

He presented himself to the temple on the same day the Pascal (Passover) lamb of sacrifice would be brought in and examined by the chief priests as to whether it was worthy and fitting for the task (being without spot or blemish). Not realizing it, they examined the true and final lamb of offering in the court of the temple when facing Jesus, "the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world," and despite finding no error in him, and being utterly silenced by his wisdom and authority, unable to truly judge him wanting, they nonetheless rejected him and proceeded to enact the final skullduggery which would result in his midnight arrest through the betrayal of his disciple Judas, the conviction in a kangaroo court of the Sanhedrin, and subsequent crucifixion at the hands of the Roman judiciary, which occupied Judea at that time.

Even Pontias Pilate, the appointed governor of the region, found no fault in Jesus and sent him back to the Jewish religious authorities, under King Herod (a Jewish puppet of the occupying Roman regency). In the end, the chief priests who conspired against Jesus resorted to the lowest level of psychological and political terrorism in order to force Pilate's hand, which he quickly washed publicly in a basin to proclaim that he had no blood on his hands in the matter of the death of Jesus of Nazareth. Pilate even went so far as to make use of a special appeasement to the people, as it was the time of the feast of Passover, and offered the people their choice between a convicted zealot insurrectionist, Barabbas, or Jesus, to be set free. The crowd, urged on by the ruling class of Jews, cried out for the crucifixion of Jesus, and the release of Barabbas. (Oddly enough, the name Barabbas means "son of the father" in Hebrew, and many have speculated that the Romans did not comprehend that the people were actually calling for Jesus, who called himself the 'Son of the Father' in his ministry).

Nonetheless, it was Jesus who was sentenced to the cross and Barabbas freed. And as was prophesied, and as He often told his followers, he would rise from the dead on the third day. Christ Himself was the true and final 'temple.' Even as His apostle to the gentiles, Paul, later declared to the Athenians, "God, that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made by human hands" (Acts 17:24). It is little understood that when Christ died, the great veil in the temple which enshrouded the Holy of Holies from sight was rent from top to bottom by an unseen force, thus revealing to the people both that access to God's grace was thrown wide open to all, and that the temple service which had been carried out by the Jews was a sham -- for the Ark was not present for the sacrifices and had not been for some time. This was another way of revealing that Christ was the substance/fulfillment of everything put forth symbolically according to the Law, including the Ark, which was itself a picture or type of Christ.

It is only upon the true altar of God, through Christ, by his own blood, that God is satisfied with the final propitiation for sins. As scripture states, "...there remains no further sacrifice for sins."(Hebrews 10:26). Thus, the Ark of Covenant has no purpose and cannot serve God or any human being in any way, shape or form.

However, it CAN be used to deceive -- and that is exactly what is planned.


Everything Old Is New Again

Powerful forces again seek to re-establish what should never be again, what was destroyed and left desolate (without the Spirit); they seek to re-enact services and sacrifices which, if offered, are utterly and entirely Satanic in the eyes of God and a grievous blasphemy...

"Of how much sorer punishment, do you suppose, shall he be thought worthy, who has trodden under foot the Son of God, and has counted the blood of the (new) covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and has done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" (Hebrews 10:29) and "But Christ being made an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle (temple), not made with human hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies to the purification of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?" (Hebrews 9:11)

Knowing this will result in the greatest of blasphemies, nonetheless, millions of Christians seek and look forward to the a third temple and support various Jewish organizations which also desire a return to sacrifices! There appears to be a form of Christian madness in these times whereby many believe that the hand of God can be forced, the events of prophecy summoned, bringing about the end -- not realizing that by even attempting such, they place themselves in the role of the agency of evil. The patience Christ and the Apostles exhorted for all believers regarding the Second Coming has been replaced by a zealous, unbiblical anxiety for what they perceive as the Lord's delay. There is almost an air of contempt that they are being made to suffer in this sinful world so long, as though this were something unusual or peculiar. Jesus even spoke to this, and gave stern warnings for such foolishness. But today it falls on deaf ears, tickled and dulled by candy-coated Gospel pablum, as well as deceptive teachings such as the 'pre-tribulation rapture' of the church, which has lulled millions worldwide into a sense of false security and distorted prophetic understanding. This has been a multi-billion dollar enterprise of brainwashing through contemporary Christian media. Quite a number of those chiefly involved in the 'Pre-Trib' message have ties to occult figures who are clearly working for the dark side.

To return to a temple made with human hands, to the Ark, to the services, to the sacrifices of animal blood is to commit a phenomenal blasphemy. It is to count as unworthy, as unclean, as insufficient and useless the blood sacrifice of The Christ, as Paul declares plainly in Hebrews 9 & 10. This is the desire, goal and plan of Antichrist, to fulfill by Satan that original vanity-driven claim for which he was cast out of the abode of God: namely, that he would seize the throne of God.

The Ark of Covenant is a throne [5], its lid of gold is called the Mercy Seat whereupon God, appearing in the form of the Shekinah Glory, appeared in the days of the tabernacle with Moses -- a copy or replica of the heavenly Ark or throne of Christ, who in his incarnation, when he ascended to the true Heavenly tabernacle, offered his blood once for all, then sat down at the right hand of Majesty on High. It was over this heavenly Ark that Satan at one time was called 'the anointed cherub who covers'; he is quite familiar with the substitutionary role which, under the sway of his intense vanity, drove him to seek worship of himself. But that role was stripped from him.

Untold millennia ago, even before this present world was formed, the great archangel of God to whom was given the highest of all positions and responsibilities was cast "as profane" from the heights of the dwelling of God for his grievous sins and subsequent violence. He seduced nations of angelic beings to worship him, profaned his sanctuaries and was filled with wrath upon his banishment. So skillful was he in his masquerade of the pre-incarnate Christ (the image of the invisible Godhead), being the most glorious of all created beings, that he brought confusion among the angelics, leading many astray to follow him. These were banished to the black darkness of the lower heavens, 'wandering stars' for whom the final eternal gloom of a final hell is reserved in the day of judgment of the ungodly. These beings are referred to by Paul as "principalities and powers in celestial realms above" who, in league with Satan, are manipulating events to culminate in this final blasphemy involving a 'temple of God.' There, through the agency of the final Antichrist, "... that man of sin (shall) be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God." (2 Thessalonians 2:4). The 'seat' he will take must be the Ark of Covenant, as it is the only legitimate 'throne' for such a temple.

Consider then the implications of that seat being occupied by the prefect representative of Satan, in the person of the 'Son of Perdition.' That throne has been taken away, perhaps hidden, until a transition takes place. For Christ will at some point leave the true throne of heaven and descend to the earth to remove the unholy abomination, "whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming" (2 Thess. 2:8).

Thus, it is the desire and will of the architects of eternal evil, the grand Illuminati, to construct this third temple, not for God, but for Satan -- in the mad belief that if that throne can be occupied by the absolute unholy, Satan can fulfill his original, willful, declarative rebellion:

"For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High (God)." (Isaiah 14:13)


A Sucker Punch

Somehow, Christendom has fallen under a spell of delusion, believing that aiding the Jews in this endeavor for a third temple is a good thing. Yet, the Jews presently have no God, as it is declared, "Who is the liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. Whosoever denies the Son, the same does not have the Father either: he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also" (1 John 2:22). Neither do they have a covenant, for the first was abolished and the New Covenant, with new blood, with "better promises" was established in Christ Jesus, who is Lord, Messiah and King.

The Zionist Occult empire operates by the same condemned racist lie perpetrated by their forefathers, the lawyers and the self-absorbed ruling Jewish class that dominated all of Israel; those sociopathic, self-serving legalists who perpetually devised schemes above, around and even within the Law, in order to line their own pockets, subjugate the masses under religious tyranny and fear, and as Christ said, 'do the will of (their) father, the devil.'

The lie of the 'chosen people' was first challenged by John the Baptist to the faces of the religious rulers, who often prided themselves as the children of Abraham for a boast; John upbraided them for their self-righteousness and borrowed piety on the back of Abraham and all the faithful, saying God could raise children of Abraham from mere stones -- for Abraham according the flesh meant NOTHING -- and later by Jesus as well, in several altercations face to face with chief priests who invoked the name of Abraham to justify their deceit, faithlessness and evil deeds. Jesus told them, "Before Abraham was, I AM."

There was, and remains, a 'chosen people,' but they are not by race, or culture or even religion. Rather, as John wrote, "Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:13) and this, the Israel of God, is defined clearly this way: "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision (Jewishness) availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God." (Galatians 6:15-16). This transition of who and what true Israel is was also declared by Christ when he told the parable of the Vineyard owner in Matthew 21, afterwards saying plainly "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." (Matthew 21:43).

Zion in the world walks entirely contrary to this truth; it defies it, opposes it and is the enemy of it, forever. As shown in the arrogance of Menachem Begin (Israeli Prime Minister, 1977-1983) who stated boldly, "Our race (speaking of the Jews) is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Menachem Begin." Now imagine if any non-Jew of reputable influence ever said such a thing in the 20th century! Imagine the outcry and ramifications! Does this sound like the 'Israel of God' of which Paul spoke? Begin merely uttered what millions of zealous Jewish Zionists believe in their hearts, and example in their Apartheid rule of the land of Palestine today.

The "Zion" which Christians should be embracing is not of this world:

"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." (Hebrews 12:22).

We are told time and time again in the scriptures, we are sojourners in this world; that we should not seek the things of the world, for it is quickly passing away; that the great exemplars of faith as recorded in Hebrews 11 sought a "better country" -- not meaning any material land on earth, but the Kingdom of God itself, and "a new heaven and a new earth," forthcoming, "wherein righteousness dwells."

By this deceptive clinging to a claim of Abrahamic inheritance and descent, this one, tiny, corrupt tribe among the 12 tribes of Israel, which in times past usurped the temple sanctuary and controlled a phony priesthood, serving in a temple that had become nothing more than a tomb, unrecognized by God as anything more than an empty shell and a lavish testament to their unpardonable sin, (if only for the faithful few for whom it was a house of prayer) demands to be recognized as "Israel," even to the vexation of Torah true Jews who know better. Vainly the Jews gave lip service to the former greats of the tribe of Judah, such as King David, and even raised Abraham to the status of a demi-god in their revolting syncretism influenced by the Helenization, and their envy of pagan philosophy and a more pleasing, self-serving spiritual cosmology; all the while killing the prophets and stoning those sent to her for salvation time and time again. So polluted were they that they could not even recognize their true King when standing face to face with him despite the vast record of the prophets which described Him in unmistakable terms; when he would come, where he would be born, how he would be born, that he would heal the blind, restore hearing to the deaf, make the lame walk and even raise the dead. And the clearest picture of all, that he would offer himself up as a sacrifice for sins.

Nonetheless, they were absolutely corrupted to the core, and either could not see, or would not see and rejected Him outright. Their vain claim to Abraham and the theft of his righteousness is rooted in their greed and devotion to the world of the flesh, of money, of power and control; misunderstanding that Abraham's seed were not counted as such according to race, or anything of the flesh, but according to faith and the promise given to that faith, which they feigned in ghastly religious piety according to rudiments of Law twisted to their own advantage (which has since resulted in the cult of 'Judaism'), not realizing in their zeal for law, "...It (the law) was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come (Christ) to whom the promise was made" (Galatians 3:19). The more they sought to rob the righteous of the chosen status by the Law, the more the Law judged them and condemned them to eternal death. Nevertheless, according to God's gracious choosing and election, a precious remnant was always preserved -- the faithful. These were the children of promise, of faith. Mystically ordained, even foreordained in eternity past, predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. It had nothing to do with race. These of the faith were and remain the only 'chosen people' of God who have any claim to any inheritance, and only through Christ.

It was said by God unto Abraham that he would be the father of nations, numbering as the sands of the sea and the stars of the heavens at a time when he was of advanced age and his wife far past her ability to conceive. Do the Jews number such in this world? Have they ever? No, they never have. Not even close. Put your thinking caps on... the mystery of the ages is unraveled, and quite evident.

This single tribe, most of which is not even authentic today being Askenazi Jews and their descendants, is not 'Israel' -- neither do they have any right to lay claim to it by name or locale -- like Esau trying to buy back his birthright which he sold for a single meal, "For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears." (Hebrews 12:17). The Zionist Jews who occupy that land of Palestine are nothing more than squatters, placed there by a world conspiracy orchestrated by the British and the United Nations. They have simply taken the seat of an ancient Royalty which is no more of this world, for it was completed with Christ Jesus, a Jew of the Royal house of David, whose throne is heavenly (that is, of the incorruptible and eternal), not earthly (the corruptible), until all his enemies are put beneath his feet.

Zionist Jews today are no different than the ruling class of Jews in Christ's time, and make the same outrageous, wicked claims for the express purpose of stealing an inheritance which is not theirs, in the form of the land of Palestine and every benefit thereby derived. Worse, they openly and boldly manipulate the world, and law, and through extortion seek an absolute Teflon status in the political world system, as a recent Kinesset ruling demonstrates -- a global illegality in questioning any element or fact of the Holocaust! One by one, Israel is working to have these laws adopted around the world under the phony banner of 'hate-speech' legislation. The Anti-Defamation League has even gone so far as to suggest that the New Testament Gospel is hate literature, seeking now to make every Bible believing Christian a criminal under "hate-crime" legislation, with support of US State Department.

These are the same Zionists these evangelical Christians have been in bed with for generations. It must be a rather rude awakening!


It's A Slow Dance Of Death

So what is driving Christian evangelicals to support antichrist Zionist Israel in spite of all this? Hoodwinked by many false converts from Judaism, who so over-emphasize the Jewish roots of Christianity to a complete dominance (naturally reducing the Christian experience to mere religion as is the result of the Judaistic poison), as well as by a myriad of Tele-evangelists/Preachers who feed their spiritually starving congregations with a litany of Old Covenant 'types and shadows' obsessions (some even going so far as to lead their congregations back to practices under the Mosaic ordinances, from observing Passover to various feasts and rituals), as well as the "Jewishness" obsessed 'Messianic' Christians (Jews who have converted to Christianity but who retain a varying degree of Jewish culture and religious tradition and fleshly pride, some to the dissolution or subordination of Christ's accomplishments at the cross -- some overshadowing the Christic New Covenant ordination and rebirth) hinging everything on a single element of prophecy - - the 'rebirth' of National Israel.

One would be hard pressed to find any evangelical Christian that does not fully believe that the UN creation of the nation of Israel in 1948 was fulfillment of major Biblical prophecy, and regard it as a wonderful thing. Yet, it escapes their grasp, that what happened in '48 was not the prophesied rebirth of Israel, for the prophets state plainly that ALL Israel will be restored to the land, not merely the singular tribe of Judah, and certainly not what is presently there, being largely Askenasi Jews (Turkish converts to Judaism). Pining over the furthest prophesies of a golden-age Millennium where the Messiah rules and reigns over the entire earth from a throne in Jerusalem, evangelicals have allowed themselves to be swallowed whole by the fraudulent Zionist contingent, which is today nothing more than what Paul called "the concision" 2000 years ago -- "Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we (believers in Christ) are the (true) circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." (Philippians 3:2).

Nothing has changed. They remain the same, anti-christ, worldly, greedy, extorting, violent, carnally rooted, spiritless, godless workers of iniquity about which a good portion of the New Testament letters give ample warning. But apparently to no avail among the evangelical churches today, punch drunk on Zionism (or a mixture of Zionism and "Dominion Now" theology which urges Christians to regard themselves as masters of this world on behalf of Christ and place a strong emphasis on worldly politics, power and control), somehow driven by guilt or a ruse into a false humility towards the Jews; still clinging to dead mandates (such as taking the Gospel "to the Jew first, then the Greek," which was accomplished and ended when Paul finally realized their judgment was complete and gave up on them), blind to their support and political allegiance to that which is fully anti-christ and which seeks the ultimate blasphemy against the God of Heaven, these churches, these Christians empower the greatest evil on earth today.

The warnings are clear -- To have no union with them, to watch for their devises and schemes always -- who better to know of such things than a member of that very religio-political mafia than Paul himself, in both the flesh and in the mind?

"Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinks that he has reason that he might trust in the flesh, I more so: Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ." (Philippians 3:4).

He knew them well, for he knew himself, and his experience on the road to Damascus, when he was changed from Saul into Paul, from a murderer of Christians in his Zionist zeal, to a follower of the ever-living Christ and conformed to a man of peace, he made plain the warning about the "enemies of the cross."

The churches are without excuse in this despicable pro-Israel politic, which is stained in the world with much blood, rooted in the corruptions of the flesh, hopeless for reformation, condemned to the eternal grave, drowning in sin and founded upon the unpardonable blasphemy of the Spirit of Grace.


Notes
[1] Rabbi Shlomo Chaim Hacohen Aviner, cited in Grace Halsell, Forcing God's Hand (Washington: Crossroads International, 1999), p. 71.

[2] http://bayzan.net/article_view.php?id=200 (See 5.3.1 Training the Priests - The Temple Mount Yeshivas)

[3] October issue, 1989, National Geographic Magazine. Discovered April, 1988 in Cave 13, Qumran/ location of many of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

[4] Some scholars place the decree at 457 BC, or distinguish between two different decrees, one to return to rebuild the city, and a second to rebuild the temple. Either way, Y'shua of Nazareth (Jesus) is the only person to appear at that time which fulfilled all of the Messianic prophecies to the letter.

[5] http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/ark.html - Its upper surface or lid, the mercy-seat, was surrounded with a rim of gold; and on each of the two sides were two gold rings, in which were placed two gold-covered poles by which the ark could be carried (Num. 7:9; 10:21; 4:5, 19-20; 1 Kings 8:3,6). At each end, there were two cherubim over the ark, with their faces turned toward each other (Lev. 16:2; Num. 7:89). Their outspread wings over the top of the ark formed the throne of God, while the ark itself was his footstool (Ex. 25:10-22; 37:1-9).

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Revelation 2:9-11 NIV

9I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.

11Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

Revelation 3:9-13 NIV

9I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. 13Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
 

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America is not the Prostitute in Revelation 17. In the Bible a woman represents a Church. In Revelation 12:1-6 a pure woman, clothed with the sun, is depicted. There is more scripture in the Bible to show us that a pure woman symbolises God’s pure church, which is faithful to her husband, Jesus.

"For as a young man marries a virgin, So shall your sons marry you; And as the bridegroom rejoices over the bride, So shall your God rejoice over you" (Isaiah 62:5).

"I have likened the daughter of Zion to a lovely and delicate woman" (Jeremiah 6:2).

“I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes, I will betroth you to Me In righteousness and justice, In lovingkindness and mercy" (Hosea 2:19)

"For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ" (2 Corinthians 11:2).

"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Saviour of the body" (Ephesians 5:22-23).

"Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” " (Revelation 19:7).

Throughout the Bible also a harlot, prostitute or whore represents a corrupt church. Read the whole Chapter of Ezekiel 16.

“But you trusted in your own beauty, played the harlot because of your fame, and poured out your harlotry on everyone passing by who would have it" (Ezekiel 16:15)


" “You erected your shrine at the head of every road, and built your high place in every street. Yet you were not like a harlot, because you scorned payment. You are an adulterous wife, who takes strangers instead of her husband. Men make payment to all harlots, but you made your payments to all your lovers, and hired them to come to you from all around for your harlotry. You are the opposite of other women in your harlotry, because no one solicited you to be a harlot. In that you gave payment but no payment was given you, therefore you are the opposite.” " (Ezekiel 16:31-34).

"When the Lord began to speak by Hosea, the Lord said to Hosea: “Go, take yourself a wife of harlotry And children of harlotry, For the land has committed great harlotry By departing from the Lord.” " (Hosea 1:2).

Babylon is described in Revelation 17:5 as the “mother of harlots,” which refers to apostate religious systems or churches. If the Church is the chaste woman faithful to her husband, then Babylon is the opposite: that system of worship that is unfaithful to God, has a mystery religion, and teaches and practices abominations. The harlot daughters must then represent those churches that follow her false teachings and subject themselves to her rule or, even worse, officially accept her leadership as authoritative.

The description of Babylon given in Revelation 17 clearly identifies Babylon as the Church of Rome. Rome claims to be the mother of all the churches. At the entrance of St. John Lateran Cathedral in Rome there is a huge Latin inscription Sacrosancta Lateranensis ecclesia omnium urbis et orbis ecclesiarum mater et caput, which translated into English reads, “Sacred Lateran Church. Church mother and head of all the churches of the city and the world.”

The Catechism of the Catholic Church calls the Church, “Mother and Teacher”.

The "Dominus Iesus" faith declaration says, “It must be always clear that the one, holy, catholic and apostolic universal church is not the sister, but the mother of all the churches.” “Dominus Iesus” (August 6, 2000).

Of course there is more evidence to prove this is a Church and its the Roman Catholic Church.


The USA is written about in end time prophecy but in Revelation 13. It is the second beast. Beasts in prophecy represent kingdoms, governments, political powers. Daniel 7:17, 23.

We must always let the Bible interpret itself.
 
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We must always let the Bible interpret itself.
Isn’t that what you’re doing in this thread instead of “We must always let the Bible interpret itself?”

I don’t play by the double standards of
“do as I say not as I do”

You’re more than welcome to your “own” private interpretation, that I strongly disagree with and vehemently oppose because the vatican is a part of Mystery Babylon. My view includes them both. Though, the pope and the Vatican are to me small fish to fry, in contrast to looking at the real enemies. The pope, the Vatican Catholic church is nothing more than the false prophet maybe; which I don’t think they even fit the biblical description accurately, so I just lumped them together because they both share in the spirit of the AntiChrist.

Just like Christians who Jesus consider to be the body of Christ and Abba father resides within our bodies that are considered temples of the living God. The AntiChrist is on his way, and he too has his spirit called the spirit of the AntiChrist and it resides in all those who worship Lucifer the light bearer. He is the light bearer to his people just as Jesus is ours.

It really is that simple.

In all honesty, it is not fair or right of you to come into a thread with your own personal interpretation and then say that we should just take your view at face value. I’m not overly fond of spoon feeding people the truth. It is everyone’s responsibility to check to see if it what I say or anyone for that matter should take it upon themselves to pray and ask for some serious discernment and keep searching the scriptures. Also, I don’t believe Relevation to be in Chronological order, God is way too intelligent to have made it that easy for Satan to truly accurately know the scriptures.

Acts 17:11 NIV

11Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. 12As a result, many of them believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.

2 Peter 1:12-21 NIV

Prophecy of Scripture

12So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. 13I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. 15And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.

16For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” b 18We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.

19We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

1 Peter 1:12 NIV

12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.
 
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Isn’t that what you’re doing in this thread instead of “We must always let the Bible interpret itself?”

I don’t play by the double standards of
“do as I say not as I do”

You’re more than welcome to your “own” private interpretation, that I strongly disagree with and vehemently oppose because the vatican is a part of Mystery Babylon. My view includes them both. Though, the pope and the Vatican are to me small fish to fry, in contrast to looking at the real enemies. The pope, the Vatican Catholic church is nothing more than the false prophet maybe; which I don’t think they even fit the biblical description accurately, so I just lumped them together because they both share in the spirit of the AntiChrist.

Just like Christians who Jesus consider to be the body of Christ and Abba father resides within our bodies that are considered temples of the living God. The AntiChrist is on his way, and he too has his spirit called the spirit of the AntiChrist and it resides in all those who worship Lucifer the light bearer. He is the light bearer to his people just as Jesus is ours.

It really is that simple.

In all honesty, it is not fair or right of you to come into a thread with your own personal interpretation and then say that we should just take your view at face value. I’m not overly fond of spoon feeding people the truth. It is everyone’s responsibility to check to see if it what I say or anyone for that matter should take it upon themselves to pray and ask for some serious discernment and keep searching the scriptures. Also, I don’t believe Relevation to be in Chronological order, God is way too intelligent to have made it that easy for Satan to truly accurately know the scriptures.

Acts 17:11 NIV

11Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. 12As a result, many of them believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.

2 Peter 1:12-21 NIV

Prophecy of Scripture

12So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. 13I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. 15And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.

16For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” b 18We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.

19We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

1 Peter 1:12 NIV

12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.
I wasn't being patronising when I said we should always let the Bible interpret itself. What I meant was when it comes to symbolic language in the Bible we should always study and research the Bible to see if its used in other parts of the Bible and compare it with what we are reading. In fact everything we read in the Bible should be compared with other scripture. Perhaps I should have explained myself better.

Also the Bible is always in unison and if symbolic language means something in one part of the Bible it will mean the same in all of the Bible. So the woman of Revelation 17 cannot be anything other than a corrupt Church. In fact she rides a beast in verse 3 which suggests she is involved in politics too.

The Bereans would do exactly what I'm saying here. They would study and research similar symbology, language and subjects in the entire Bible and compare scripture with scripture.
 
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I wasn't being patronising when I said we should always let the Bible interpret itself. What I meant was when it comes to symbolic language in the Bible we should always study and research the Bible to see if its used in other parts of the Bible and compare it with what we are reading. In fact everything we read in the Bible should be compared with other scripture. Perhaps I should have explained myself better.

Also the Bible is always in unison and if symbolic language means something in one part of the Bible it will mean the same in all of the Bible. So the woman of Revelation 17 cannot be anything other than a corrupt Church. In fact she rides a beast in verse 3 which suggests she is involved in politics too.

The Bereans would do exactly what I'm saying here. They would study and research similar symbology, language and subjects in the entire Bible and compare scripture with scripture.
Everything will be proven in it’s proper time,but your point of view is still welcome just as anyone else and anyone who differs is more than welcome to prove adorable Miss Dana Ashlie wrong, since it is not I who is in the video. I just share her views, finding someone who is like-minded. I don’t have the energy to debate, however, I do love to discuss. All we can do is go with what we got.

It’s the whole iron sharpens iron, but more importantly,

2 Timothy 2:15-26 NIV

15Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

20In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for special purposes and some for common use. 21Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.

22Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
 

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Everything will be proven in it’s proper time,but your point of view is still welcome just as anyone else and anyone who differs is more than welcome to prove adorable Miss Dana Ashlie wrong, since it is not I who is in the video. I just share her views, finding someone who is like-minded. I don’t have the energy to debate, however, I do love to discuss. All we can do is go with what we got.

It’s the whole iron sharpens iron, but more importantly,

2 Timothy 2:15-26 NIV

15Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

20In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for special purposes and some for common use. 21Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.

22Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
But I have told you the truth. It is the truth of the Bible. We are living in end times and there is no more time for proving truth. Right now God is just waiting for more people to realise the truth and so be saved.

All I want is to present the truth according to the Bible but its up to you whether you accept it or not.

God bless.
 

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But I have told you the truth. It is the truth of the Bible. We are living in end times and there is no more time for proving truth. Right now God is just waiting for more people to realise the truth and so be saved.

All I want is to present the truth according to the Bible but its up to you whether you accept it or not.

God bless.
Ditto!!!!

1 Corinthians 3 NIV

1Brothers and sisters, I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly—mere infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings?

5What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. 6I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.

10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.

16Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

18Do not deceive yourselves. If any of you think you are wise by the standards of this age, you should become “fools” so that you may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness” a ; 20and again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” b 21So then, no more boasting about human leaders! All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas c or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God.

God bless you too!
 

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1 Corinthians 12:12-26 NIV

Unity and Diversity in the Body

12Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13For we were all baptized by c one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

15Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

Romans 12:3-21 NIV

3For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. 4For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. 6We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your a faith; 7if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; 8if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, b do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

Love in Action

9Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. c Do not be conceited.

17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” d says the Lord. 20On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.” e
21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
 

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Revelation 17 18And the woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”


What great city rules over the kings of the earth ?

Is it Rome or Jerusalem or London or Moscow or Beijing or Washington or Tehran or... No ! They are all ruled by the United Nations from New York City !
 
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Zionism - The Occult
Guild Of Antichrist
A Christian Perspective

By Alton Raines
That was one long piece of neo nazi garbage.


Do you know why anti Zionism or anti Israeli propaganda is so persistent and widespread in a world which just genocided 30% of Jews ? That is because the beast whose head was healed is the Third reich also known as the Nazis !

Nazis were just shipped to the US Britain Soviet and elsewhere after the war... where they continued. Oh Yea and many of them took on new Jewish identities ! Pretending to be Jews !

How does a Nazi hide from the Jews ? By pretending to be a Jew !
 
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Very good summary of the world we live in. She is good at connecting the dots...I would love to think we all know all that by now...Sigh...
I couldn’t agree with you more. I would love it if everyone was on the same page and just try to see things they way they are and yes she is commendable brilliant mind of hers!!!
I always enjoy Dana’s pep talks!!! I look up to her as a real proverbs 31 woman, I try to learn from her, hoping to pick up better social skills! She really is exemplified in my eyes! Her and gentlewhispering are my two role models on how to be a proper woman of the Lord.

God bless you @Vytas
 

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I always enjoy Dana’s pep talks!!! I look up to her as a real proverbs 31 woman, I try to learn from her, hoping to pick up better social skills!
Fuk social skills ! If you want to be a proverbs 31 woman you better delete your copy pasted neo nazi piece of trash right now !
 

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God did not cry when the Nazis burnt up one third of His people nor did He fell a tear when the Muslims attacked His restored people. No He is patiently waiting for the appointed time to explode in fierce fury and righteous rage over the persistent mistreatment of His people !
 

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Fuk social skills ! If you want to be a proverbs 31 woman you better delete your copy pasted neo nazi piece of trash right now !
Does your rubber knee ever get tired of genuflecting to Zionist Stars of David? Thank God there are still Christians who know that the Jewish "Christ," or Messiah, is the Christian Antichrist, and one need not be either a Nazi or neo-Nazi to oppose Jewish apocalyptic ends in the Middle East. Your apparent dichotomy, that all those who oppose organized Jewish apocalyptic ends is a neo-Nazi, is not only simple minded but also tiresome.
 
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