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A "Green Sabbath" & Climate Lockdowns/Gross Green Austerity
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Because it's not about the climate or saving the earth but transforming the economic systems....in their own words!
2019
AOC chief of staff confirms: Green New Deal was not really about the climate
The chief of staff for Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stated that her signature Green New Deal was not really about saving the planet after all.
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In a report by the Washington Post, Saikat Chakrabarti revealed that "it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all ... we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing."
The revelation came during a conversation with Sam Ricketts, climate director for presidential candidate Jay Inslee. Chakrabarti further told Ricketts of the Green New Deal, "I think ... it’s dual. It is both rising to the challenge that is existential around climate and it is building an economy that contains more prosperity. More sustainability in that prosperity — and more broadly shared prosperity, equitability and justice throughout."
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^^curious intersection of events
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In March 2018, Mazzucato was contacted by two members of a progressive political movement in the US called Justice Democrats. She had no idea who Saikat Chakrabarti and Zack Exley were. “They were saying that they were trying to bring in a new wave of young politicians,” she recalls. “It was more curiosity from my side of hearing what's going on in the US, because I had sort of lost touch.”
Chakrabarti and Exley had previously worked for Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign. Chakrabarti then co-founded a political action committee with the aim of recruiting 400 working class candidates to run for Congress. “The idea was to create a new caucus within the Democratic Party,” Chakrabarti says. “We have people like Donald Trump in the White House, the Democratic Party leadership is acting as if it's still 1995. The real divide is not between left and right. It's between ambition and not ambition. We wanted an alternative vision of society that's revolutionary. What was exciting about meeting Mariana is that there weren't a lot of people in the US talking about those kinds of ideas.”
In London, at Mazzucato’s home in Camden, they told her that, in three months, they were hoping to have elected officials in Congress who would be willing to talk about big policy ideas, particularly around environmental change. One of their most promising candidates was a young bartender from New York. Her name was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
In June 2018, Ocasio-Cortez defeated 10-term incumbent Joe Crowley in the Democratic primary, shocking the political establishment and in effect guaranteeing herself a place in Congress.
A month later, Mazzucato and Ocasio-Cortez spoke over Skype for the first time. Their conversation revolved around a new, ambitious industrial policy that the Justice Democrats were calling the Green New Deal. Mazzucato had been one of the originators, in collaboration with the economist Carlota Perez. “The most important thing is to stop thinking that we should sacrifice our way of life in order to solve our environmental problems,” Perez says. “We always thought of it as an opportunity to transform our society in a way that is also fairer and socially sustainable.”
To Mazzucato, a Green New Deal could be as bold as the 1969 moonshot. “When my book came out, Bill Gates invited me to come to Seattle,” she says. “He told me that he had followed the lead of the public sector when it came to IT. And now he was concerned that he couldn’t see the public leading in green in the same way.” A Green New Deal would involve, as she puts it, “greening the entire economy”, transforming not only the renewable energy industry but every single aspect of manufacturing. It would require tax incentives and disincentives to tackle high polluters and to encourage innovation around areas like waste and durability. It would require patient, long-term finance.
On September 11, Mazzucato and Ocasio-Cortez met face to face at the Firefly restaurant, the latter’s local hangout in Sunnyside, New York. They spoke about everything from the issue of public return for public investment to the notion of market co-creation versus market fixing. “She’s quite academic,” Mazzucato says. “It was much easier to talk to her about these things than it normally is with a politician who just wants the slogans, but doesn’t really get the details behind the message.”
Ocasio-Cortez also asked the economist for advice on how to get her message across to voters. In 2009, when Obama was proposing his healthcare reform, he had to assure people that government bureaucrats weren't meddling. That was fine, but it didn’t capture the imagination of the public, Mazzucato said. He should have said that, actually, public-funded agencies were not just regulating – they were financing most of the innovation in the healthcare system. The pharmaceutical industry gets $32bn (£25bn) a year of innovation financing from the a state agency – the National Institutes of Health – condition free, and yet taxpayers still had to pay extortionate prices for life-saving drugs. It made no sense. “Get the language right,” Mazzucato told Ocasio-Cortez. “Otherwise, you're just going to be a nice social democratic, boring lefty politician.”
In February 2019, Ocasio-Cortez released her first piece of legislation as a congresswoman: a 14-page resolution on the Green New Deal, which she called the “moonshot of our generation”. A few weeks later, during a congressional hearing on the drug industry, she asked Aaron Kesselheim, a professor of medicine from Harvard: “Would it be correct, Dr Kesselheim, to characterize the NIH money that is being used in development and research as an early investment? The public is acting as an early investor in the production of these drugs. Is the public receiving any sort of direct return on that investment from the highly profitable drugs that are developed from that research?” “No,” Kesselheim replied."
This economist has a plan to fix capitalism. It's time we all listened
Mariana Mazzucato has demonstrated that the real driver of innovation isn't lone geniuses but state investment. Now she's working with the UK government, EU and UN to apply her moonshot approach to the world's biggest challenges
Chakrabarti and Exley had previously worked for Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign. Chakrabarti then co-founded a political action committee with the aim of recruiting 400 working class candidates to run for Congress. “The idea was to create a new caucus within the Democratic Party,” Chakrabarti says. “We have people like Donald Trump in the White House, the Democratic Party leadership is acting as if it's still 1995. The real divide is not between left and right. It's between ambition and not ambition. We wanted an alternative vision of society that's revolutionary. What was exciting about meeting Mariana is that there weren't a lot of people in the US talking about those kinds of ideas.”
In London, at Mazzucato’s home in Camden, they told her that, in three months, they were hoping to have elected officials in Congress who would be willing to talk about big policy ideas, particularly around environmental change. One of their most promising candidates was a young bartender from New York. Her name was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
In June 2018, Ocasio-Cortez defeated 10-term incumbent Joe Crowley in the Democratic primary, shocking the political establishment and in effect guaranteeing herself a place in Congress.
A month later, Mazzucato and Ocasio-Cortez spoke over Skype for the first time. Their conversation revolved around a new, ambitious industrial policy that the Justice Democrats were calling the Green New Deal. Mazzucato had been one of the originators, in collaboration with the economist Carlota Perez. “The most important thing is to stop thinking that we should sacrifice our way of life in order to solve our environmental problems,” Perez says. “We always thought of it as an opportunity to transform our society in a way that is also fairer and socially sustainable.”
To Mazzucato, a Green New Deal could be as bold as the 1969 moonshot. “When my book came out, Bill Gates invited me to come to Seattle,” she says. “He told me that he had followed the lead of the public sector when it came to IT. And now he was concerned that he couldn’t see the public leading in green in the same way.” A Green New Deal would involve, as she puts it, “greening the entire economy”, transforming not only the renewable energy industry but every single aspect of manufacturing. It would require tax incentives and disincentives to tackle high polluters and to encourage innovation around areas like waste and durability. It would require patient, long-term finance.
On September 11, Mazzucato and Ocasio-Cortez met face to face at the Firefly restaurant, the latter’s local hangout in Sunnyside, New York. They spoke about everything from the issue of public return for public investment to the notion of market co-creation versus market fixing. “She’s quite academic,” Mazzucato says. “It was much easier to talk to her about these things than it normally is with a politician who just wants the slogans, but doesn’t really get the details behind the message.”
Ocasio-Cortez also asked the economist for advice on how to get her message across to voters. In 2009, when Obama was proposing his healthcare reform, he had to assure people that government bureaucrats weren't meddling. That was fine, but it didn’t capture the imagination of the public, Mazzucato said. He should have said that, actually, public-funded agencies were not just regulating – they were financing most of the innovation in the healthcare system. The pharmaceutical industry gets $32bn (£25bn) a year of innovation financing from the a state agency – the National Institutes of Health – condition free, and yet taxpayers still had to pay extortionate prices for life-saving drugs. It made no sense. “Get the language right,” Mazzucato told Ocasio-Cortez. “Otherwise, you're just going to be a nice social democratic, boring lefty politician.”
In February 2019, Ocasio-Cortez released her first piece of legislation as a congresswoman: a 14-page resolution on the Green New Deal, which she called the “moonshot of our generation”. A few weeks later, during a congressional hearing on the drug industry, she asked Aaron Kesselheim, a professor of medicine from Harvard: “Would it be correct, Dr Kesselheim, to characterize the NIH money that is being used in development and research as an early investment? The public is acting as an early investor in the production of these drugs. Is the public receiving any sort of direct return on that investment from the highly profitable drugs that are developed from that research?” “No,” Kesselheim replied."
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I agree that the "left" is phony regarding this issue, but as Lynette Zang states...Because it's not about the climate or saving the earth but transforming the economic systems....in their own words!
2019
The chief of staff for Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stated that her signature Green New Deal was not really about saving the planet after all.AOC chief of staff confirms: Green New Deal was not really about the climate
The chief of staff for Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stated that her signature Green New Deal was not really about saving the planet after all.
In a report by the Washington Post, Saikat Chakrabarti revealed that "it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all ... we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing."
The revelation came during a conversation with Sam Ricketts, climate director for presidential candidate Jay Inslee. Chakrabarti further told Ricketts of the Green New Deal, "I think ... it’s dual. It is both rising to the challenge that is existential around climate and it is building an economy that contains more prosperity. More sustainability in that prosperity — and more broadly shared prosperity, equitability and justice throughout."
"Water scarcity threatens the health and development of communities around the globe. Climate change, whether you believe in climate change or you don't, is intensifying the problem, pushing governments. So many think... and my good friend David Dubyne he definitely believes this, that this is more about government control. So climate change is intensifying the problem. Pushing governments to find more innovative, collaborative ways to address water stress. What they're really talking about here is controlling your ability to access water on a global basis."
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She admits in her writing: “I was propelled into a deeper engagement with [the topic of climate change] partly because I realized it could be a catalyst for forms of social and economic justice in which I already believed.” And she hopes for “a new kind of climate movement to take up the fight against so-called free trade.” She strictly rejects highly efficient solutions, such as climate-friendly nuclear energy, because she is not at all interested in solutions within the framework of capitalism.
Klein writes that she recognizes that climate change presents a chance to “collectively use the crisis to leap somewhere that seems, frankly, better than where we are right now” and “that climate change could become a catalyzing force for positive change ... it could be the best argument progressives have ever had … to reclaim our democracies from corrosive corporate influence; to block harmful new free trade deals … to open borders to migrants.” The climate crisis could “form the basis of a powerful mass movement,” and this movement should set itself the following objectives:
- to “radically expand the commons” (i.e., state-owned property and resources)
- to introduce a “carefully planned economy”
- to “change pretty much everything about our economy”
- to introduce “new taxes, new public works programs”
- “reversals of privatizations”
- “extinction for the richest and most powerful industry the world has ever known—the oil and gas industry”
- government guidelines on “how often we drive, how often we fly, whether our food has to be flown to get to us, whether the goods we buy are built to last … how large our homes are”
- “a fundamental reordering of the component parts of Gross Domestic Product”
- “less private investment in producing for excessive consumption”
- “increased government spending”
- “a great deal more redistribution”
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As usual you are posting a lot of food for thought! I can clearly see how both "sides" are being directed to the same destination via different routes... and they are trying to pull the rest of us with them.
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The Beatles covered this topic in their song Taxman in 1966.
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Harris explains that “thousands of scientists published in peer review journals from across the world do not accept the ‘Climate Scare’.” He then drops the bombshell: “And we’re going to see actually climate lockdowns coming next.”
Harris explains that “because the government says it wants to be at zero-net emissions by 2050…the only way to do that is to massively infringe on people’s freedoms – to travel, to live, to have children…” RAIR Foundation USA has reported on this very important concept of “Net Zero,” meaning any perceived impact made by humans on the planet would have to be offset by other perceived climate-friendly strategies such as planting a tree. Al Gore created the idea of “carbon offsets” which would allow wealthy citizens to mitigate the perceived damage they did to the environment by purchasing “carbon offsets,” which would in theory zero out their impact.
“Environmentalists are thrilled with the lockdown because they say there has been the largest CO2 drop in many decades,” Harris explained:
BREAKING: Scientist Warns Climate Lockdowns to Follow Coronavirus Lockdowns (Exclusive Interview) - RAIR
"They want to have truly a complete societal shutdown almost indefinitely."
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Harris explains that “thousands of scientists published in peer review journals from across the world do not accept the ‘Climate Scare’.” He then drops the bombshell: “And we’re going to see actually climate lockdowns coming next.”
Harris explains that “because the government says it wants to be at zero-net emissions by 2050…the only way to do that is to massively infringe on people’s freedoms – to travel, to live, to have children…” RAIR Foundation USA has reported on this very important concept of “Net Zero,” meaning any perceived impact made by humans on the planet would have to be offset by other perceived climate-friendly strategies such as planting a tree. Al Gore created the idea of “carbon offsets” which would allow wealthy citizens to mitigate the perceived damage they did to the environment by purchasing “carbon offsets,” which would in theory zero out their impact.
“Environmentalists are thrilled with the lockdown because they say there has been the largest CO2 drop in many decades,” Harris explained:
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1998
Section 10.5 of the Global Biological Assessment states that in 20 to 50 years, all citizens living within reserves will be “relocated.” Tens of millions of people would be involved in this relocation.[17]
Indeed, for many, man is the enemy.
This attitude was made crystal clear by Maurice Strong, secretary general of the 1992 U.N. Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro. Just the year before, Strong had declared: “It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class—involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, ownership of motor vehicles and small electrical appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.”[4]
Some extreme environmentalists want to take us back to the Middle Ages. E. F. Schumacher, author of Small Is Beautiful, says the world was much better in medieval times, when people rarely traveled beyond the village in which they were born. Rudolf Bahro, founder of the German green movement, wants us all to live in small communities and to eliminate our cars, airplanes, computers, and most other modern devices.
Other authoritarian “defenders of the earth” would like to reduce the human population to prehistoric levels. Warren Hern says “the human species has become a malignancy, an ‘ecotumor’ that is growing out of control.”[5] David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!, agrees. “We are a cancer on nature,” he declares.[6] Earth First!’s motto proudly declares its ultimate goal: “Back to the Pleistocene.”
How do they propose we get there? National Park Services biologist David Graber suggests, “Until such time as Homo Sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along.”[7] Many extreme environmentalists are determined to end industrial civilization, one way or another.
The IUCN is the major administrative agency for the U.N.’s global environmental agenda. It includes representatives from over 800 state and federal government agencies and nongovernment organizations in 133 countries. The IUCN’s master plan for the United States is the Wildlands Program, which is presented in U.N. Global Biodiversity Assessment (Section 10.4.2.2.3). The goal of this incredible program is to turn 50 percent of the United States—including thousands of existing towns and communities—into an “eco-park” in which most human use is prohibited. According to Science magazine, the Wildlands Project calls for “23.4% of the land [in the United States] to be returned to wilderness, and another 26.2% to be severely restricted in terms of human use. Most roads would be closed; some would be ripped out of the landscape.”[15] As Marilyn Brannan, associate editor of Monetary & Economic Review, commented, “It cannot be too strongly emphasized that this is a radical agenda designed to control not just the land, but all human activity as well.”[16]
Section 10.5 of the Global Biological Assessment states that in 20 to 50 years, all citizens living within reserves will be “relocated.” Tens of millions of people would be involved in this relocation.[17]
Indeed, for many, man is the enemy.
This attitude was made crystal clear by Maurice Strong, secretary general of the 1992 U.N. Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro. Just the year before, Strong had declared: “It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class—involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, ownership of motor vehicles and small electrical appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.”[4]
Some extreme environmentalists want to take us back to the Middle Ages. E. F. Schumacher, author of Small Is Beautiful, says the world was much better in medieval times, when people rarely traveled beyond the village in which they were born. Rudolf Bahro, founder of the German green movement, wants us all to live in small communities and to eliminate our cars, airplanes, computers, and most other modern devices.
Other authoritarian “defenders of the earth” would like to reduce the human population to prehistoric levels. Warren Hern says “the human species has become a malignancy, an ‘ecotumor’ that is growing out of control.”[5] David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!, agrees. “We are a cancer on nature,” he declares.[6] Earth First!’s motto proudly declares its ultimate goal: “Back to the Pleistocene.”
How do they propose we get there? National Park Services biologist David Graber suggests, “Until such time as Homo Sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along.”[7] Many extreme environmentalists are determined to end industrial civilization, one way or another.
These two articles at GR shine a light on the extreme hypocrisy of granting the top international financial controllers the authority to direct national policies relating to our resources. If Blackrock and Citibank cared about the planet they would divest from the world's biggest polluters- the military and their suppliers like Boeing, Raytheon, Northrum Grumman, etc. Since the 1960's origins of the "climate catastrophe" agenda it has never been about people and the environment- it's about control.
How Blackrock Investment Fund Triggered the Global Energy Crisis
BlackRock Will Evade Responsibility for East Palestine Ohio Environmental Disaster
Biden’s aggressive environmental rules and BlackRock ESG investing mandates are killing the US refinery capacity. Without refineries it doesn’t matter how many barrels of oil you take from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. In the first two years of Biden’s Presidency the US has shut down some 1 million barrels a day of gasoline and diesel refining capacity, some due to covid demand collapse, the fastest decline in US history. The shutdowns are permanent. In 2023 an added 1.7 million bpd of capacity is set to close as a result of BlackRock and Wall Street ESG disinvesting and Biden regulations.
Citing the heavy Wall Street disinvestment in oil and the Biden anti-oil policies, the CEO of Chevron in June 2022 declared that he doesn’t believe the US will ever build another new refinery.
Larry Fink, Board member of Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum, is joined by the EU whose President of the EU Commission, the notoriously corrupt Ursula von der Leyen left the WEF Board in 2019 to become EU Commission head. Her first major act in Brussels was to push through the EU Zero Carbon Fit for 55 agenda. That has imposed major carbon taxes and other constraints on oil, gas and coal in the EU well before the February 2022 Russian actions in Ukraine. The combined impact of the Fink fraudulent ESG agenda in the Biden administration and the EU Zero Carbon madness is creating the worst energy and inflation crisis in history.
I don't agree with everything in the 2nd article but the point is made how reckless and hypocritical the finance industry is. BR, Vanguard, SS, etc fight relentlessly to loosen regulations on railroad safety while still being heavily invested in coal or stripping the Amazon. Do the policy makers care about the conditions of lithium mines in the Congo? Simply put the central banks and investment superpowers are just the economic strong-arm of the eugenicist tinged UN plan for global governance.
How Blackrock Investment Fund Triggered the Global Energy Crisis
BlackRock Will Evade Responsibility for East Palestine Ohio Environmental Disaster
Biden’s aggressive environmental rules and BlackRock ESG investing mandates are killing the US refinery capacity. Without refineries it doesn’t matter how many barrels of oil you take from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. In the first two years of Biden’s Presidency the US has shut down some 1 million barrels a day of gasoline and diesel refining capacity, some due to covid demand collapse, the fastest decline in US history. The shutdowns are permanent. In 2023 an added 1.7 million bpd of capacity is set to close as a result of BlackRock and Wall Street ESG disinvesting and Biden regulations.
Citing the heavy Wall Street disinvestment in oil and the Biden anti-oil policies, the CEO of Chevron in June 2022 declared that he doesn’t believe the US will ever build another new refinery.
Larry Fink, Board member of Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum, is joined by the EU whose President of the EU Commission, the notoriously corrupt Ursula von der Leyen left the WEF Board in 2019 to become EU Commission head. Her first major act in Brussels was to push through the EU Zero Carbon Fit for 55 agenda. That has imposed major carbon taxes and other constraints on oil, gas and coal in the EU well before the February 2022 Russian actions in Ukraine. The combined impact of the Fink fraudulent ESG agenda in the Biden administration and the EU Zero Carbon madness is creating the worst energy and inflation crisis in history.
I don't agree with everything in the 2nd article but the point is made how reckless and hypocritical the finance industry is. BR, Vanguard, SS, etc fight relentlessly to loosen regulations on railroad safety while still being heavily invested in coal or stripping the Amazon. Do the policy makers care about the conditions of lithium mines in the Congo? Simply put the central banks and investment superpowers are just the economic strong-arm of the eugenicist tinged UN plan for global governance.
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the guy who supposedly came up with the concept of 15min neighbourhoods