A "Green Sabbath" & Climate Lockdowns/Gross Green Austerity

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When you speak of weather control I'm just reminded of a hadith where the prophet of Islam (saw) spoke of the antichrist having control over the weather. Those who obey him will get an abundance and those who reject him will face famine.

I'll share an piece of the hadith. Its long and you can find it complete here.

Then he will command the sky to rain and it will rain, and he will command the earth to produce vegetation and it will do so, and their flocks will come back in the evening with their humps taller, their udders fuller and their flanks fatter than they have ever been. Then he will come to some (other) people and call them, and they will reject him, so he will turn away from them and they will suffer drought and be left with nothing.


Off topic for the thread but along the same lines in response to your other post.

Is another fulfillment the last prophet (saw) prophesied about the anti-christ.

The Prophet (ﷺ) said about Ad-Dajjal that he would have water and fire with him: (what would seem to be) fire, would be cold water and (what would seem to be) water, would be fire. (source)

Such as the US being portrayed as the "land of the free" and everything good when in fact the opposite is true.

This is the age of deception the last prophet warned about and God knows best.
It seems religion is going to play a huge role in the climate agenda...more than we likely anticipate. I will post material on that. The language to get us all up in arms isn't strong enough so "they" have an ace up "their" sleeve. The myriad of belief systems on this planet have been taken into account...that you can be sure of.
 

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You know if they started planting big fields of hemp plants by carbon producing power generating sources you could remedy the issue with CO2 in the air
 

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"And so Covid may now have become an excuse for doing what some of our elitist leaders have perhaps dreamed of for years: putting an end to the cheap package holiday.

But while the talk now is of the need to keep expensive testing and complicated rules – in place, this undeclared war on cheap travel is unlikely to end with Covid. There will be others looking to stop the bargain-bucket Benidorm crowd for environmental reasons.

Already, powerful government advisers have mass travel in their sights as they ponder how Britain can meet the government’s legally binding target of reducing carbon emissions to net zero by 2050. For them, Covid restrictions have been a dry run for how our lifestyles might be curtailed in future for the good of the planet.

Yes, that would mean turning the clock back to the era when travel was so complicated and expensive that only the most dedicated and economically blessed among us would consider getting away. And as the numbers of putative passengers to Spain, say, fell, then there would be fewer flights, and those would be offered at higher prices. Throw in testing that costs as much as the holiday itself and suddenly, the sort of ordinary Brit who has come to depend on their annual dose of vitamin D wouldn’t be able to afford it anyway.

Keeping the masses off planes would delight well-off travellers - the sort who assuage their own guilt by buying carbon offsets and who shudder at the fly-and-flop crowd at the boarding gate.

Among those who see Covid as a dry run for restricting our freedom to travel is Dr Susan Michie, member of the Sage committee and director of the Centre for Behaviour Change at UCL.

In a Channel 5 News interview in June, she said: “We need to think about the way we plan our cities, our transport, our lifestyles – instead of going back to huge long commutes, we have more local hubs where people don’t have to travel so much – good not only for health but for the environment – the environmental crisis is the next one down the road.”

In other words, now we have conditioned the public to expect lockdowns and other restrictions, let’s use them to cut carbon emissions.

Sir David King, the former chief Scientific Adviser who set up the shadow “independent Sage” committee and the similar Climate Change Advisory Group, is another who might not want to let the opportunity slip.

Last September, he wrote in The Washington Post: “The pandemic ought to make fighting climate change easier, serving as a model for responding to the climate crisis. While it did so at a huge cost to the economy, it has proved that large swaths of the population could change their behaviour and lower the trajectory of emissions — not over decades but in a matter of weeks.”

His argument somewhat ignores an important point: the public supported restrictions on the basis it was a brief response to a disease threatening to kill large numbers of people in a short time.

However much you dress up the dangers of climate change, it isn’t going to be solved with restrictive measures over weeks or months. If a government was going to try to cut carbon emissions by announcing a ban on, say, holiday flights, it would have to stay indefinitely, or until some alternative technology was invented.

The public might be a little less keen to accept that. Except, perhaps, if they can be either put off going away (the cost, the effort) or frightened into changing behaviour (disease, global warming) forever.

So the culture war over travel has begun. Government ministers from Johnson and Sunak down are already modelling the responsible, patriotic and green style of holiday: a sodden staycation in wellies and a coat. It’s one that would suit the World Economic Forum (WEF), which carries on its website a piece by Arthur Wyns, former climate adviser to the World Health Organisation, saying: “The global health crisis we find ourselves in has forced us to dramatically change our behaviour in order to protect ourselves and those around us, to a degree most of us have never experienced before. This temporary shift of gears could lead to a long-term shift in old behaviours and assumptions, which could lead to a public drive for collective action and effective risk management.”

Can we take that as a promise that the WEF will no longer be inviting the great and good to fly to Davos in their private jets? I fear not. You can be sure the wealthy will carry on travelling, while lecturing the rest of us on climate change. I don’t doubt that, given half a chance, the PM will be jetting off to some borrowed villa in the Caribbean once again.

Covid will be used to justify interference in the lifestyles of ordinary people – by a global elite which, to judge from the fact that G7, COP26 and other beanfeasts are carrying on regardless, are immune to changing behaviour. Life is returning to normal for those important people, who get swept through empty airports without being imprisoned for 10 days at the Holiday Inn. But for the rest of us, the byzantine rules on travel and the cost of complying with them are a foretaste of what is to come."
 

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"The authors of the report state the key messages are as follows –

In addition to reducing our energy demand, delivering zero emissions with today’s technologies requires the phasing out of flying, shipping, lamb and beef, blast-furnace steel and cement.

They also state this on jobs and location –

There are two key implications for how we live our lives: first, buildings will become much more expensive because the restrictions on building which generate substantial scarcities; second, transport will become much more expensive because the limits on air travel will generate excess demand for other forms of transport.

Those who are starting secondary school now, in 2019, will be 43 in 2050. Thinking about what education is appropriate for a very different set of industries is a key question. Should we still be training airplane pilots? Or aeronautical engineers?


And they state this on implementation of the requirements –

The changes in behaviour to achieve Absolute Zero are clearly substantial. In principle, these changes could be induced through changing prices and thus providing clear incentives for behaviour to change. The alternative is that the government prohibits certain types of behaviour and regulates on production processes.

You may be wondering how on earth they are going to get the support of the public in shutting the airports and stopping the consumption of beef and lamb?

Well, we could argue they are already well on their way to ensuring the closure of many airports thanks to the draconian laws that the British people have been living under since March 2020 in the name of protecting the NHS and saving lives.
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UK medical schools must teach about climate crisis, say students

"The editorial, which is being published before the UN general assembly and the Cop26 climate summit in Glasgow this November, says: “Ahead of these pivotal meetings, we – the editors of health journals worldwide – call for urgent action to keep average global temperature increases below 1.5C, halt the destruction of nature, and protect health.

“Health is already being harmed by global temperature increases and the destruction of the natural world, a state of affairs health professionals have been bringing attention to for decades.

“The science is unequivocal; a global increase of 1.5C above the pre-industrial average and the continued loss of biodiversity risk catastrophic harm to health that will be impossible to reverse."
 
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Well, we could argue they are already well on their way to ensuring the closure of many airports thanks to the draconian laws that the British people have been living under since March 2020 in the name of protecting the NHS and saving lives."
Could you clarify which draconian laws the British people have been living under since March 2020?

If you are referring to Boris Johnsons announcement about having to stay at home - that, first of all was not a law. Completely unenforceable. They also added a bunch of excuses you could use to avoid it all together in case it wasn't already obvious for the normies in the back (it wasn't..) And I'm not defending BoJo at all. But I think it's fearmongering when you use stories you've heard in the media which are almost always exaggerated or even manufactured entirely, just to push your own points (which I'm not disagreeing with!)

Free will and everything. Even these Satanists follow natural law and will inform you about the truth, secretly albeit, before drowning you in the lies.

See, the problem that the masses and so called woke-truthers have in common that allow this nonsense to exist is that they don't understand how this game is played - all the tyranny is allowed by our own incompetence and unwillingness to practise free will. We're here to create our own reality, and if you don't want to do that then that's fine, but reality will be chosen for you by somebody else.
 

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I was looking for something on Professor Michael Barkun(Disaster & the Millennium) and i found this 2019, 30-page paper and while it has a theological bent to it, I found some gems in it that opened my eyes to what we are seeing in the press about climate change rhetoric and possibly what to expect in the future. Obviously, all the articles referenced are from 2019.
Activism for End Times: Millenarian Belief in an age of Climate Emergency

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"Other terms that have been updated, including the use of “wildlife” rather than “biodiversity”, “fish populations” instead of “fish stocks” and “climate science denier” rather than “climate sceptic”
 
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So, if the language and austerity aren't strong enough to get us all up in arms over this "crisis", appeals might be made to an "external force to step in".
Curiously and unsurprisingly some voices have already suggested this. This MSNBC clip has to be seen to be believed.

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The Pentagon announcement on UFO's last year makes ALOT of sense now. We are being set up.
 
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Bruno Latour was mentioned in the paper above. This is crazy. What does he even mean by "metaphysical confinement & deconfinement"?
It sounds like an attempt to make a religion out of climate change - metaphysics of confinement? Like the moral imperative to not leave your house or move too much? Like the logic is saying, as humans the best thing you could do is die, but since we know you don’t want to, best we can do is imprisonment
 

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It sounds like an attempt to make a religion out of climate change - metaphysics of confinement? Like the moral imperative to not leave your house or move too much? Like the logic is saying, as humans the best thing you could do is die, but since we know you don’t want to, best we can do is imprisonment
As i said a couple posts above, religion will play a bigger role in this climate agenda than we presently anticipate. It's shaping up to that. Your post makes Latour come across as pharisaic-like. :) but we'll have to wait and see what exactly it is that he means because if he is already echoing climate lockdowns like other people (NWO orgs) then it stands to reason that those "other people" espouse beliefs of "metaphysics of confinement".
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Communication Strategies for Engaging Climate Skeptics examines the intersection of climate skepticism and Christianity and proposes strategies for engaging climate skeptics in productive conversations.

Despite the scientifically established threats of climate change, there remains a segment of the American population that is skeptical of the scientific consensus on climate change and the urgent need for action. One of the most important stakeholders and conversants in environmental conversations is the religious community. While existing studies have discussed environmentalism as a factor within the religious community, this book positions religion as an important factor in environmentalism and focuses on how identities play a role in environmental conversation. Rather than thinking of religious skeptics as a single unified group, Emma Frances Bloomfield argues that it is essential to recognize there are different types of skeptics so that we can better tailor our communication strategies to engage with them on issues of the environment and climate change.
 
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As i said a couple posts above, religion will play a bigger role in this climate agenda than we presently anticipate. It's shaping up to that. Your post makes Latour come across as pharisaic-like. :) but we'll have to wait and see what exactly it is that he means because if he is already echoing climate lockdowns like other people (NWO orgs) then it stands to reason that those "other people" espouse beliefs of "metaphysics of confinement".
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Communication Strategies for Engaging Climate Skeptics examines the intersection of climate skepticism and Christianity and proposes strategies for engaging climate skeptics in productive conversations.

Despite the scientifically established threats of climate change, there remains a segment of the American population that is skeptical of the scientific consensus on climate change and the urgent need for action. One of the most important stakeholders and conversants in environmental conversations is the religious community. While existing studies have discussed environmentalism as a factor within the religious community, this book positions religion as an important factor in environmentalism and focuses on how identities play a role in environmental conversation. Rather than thinking of religious skeptics as a single unified group, Emma Frances Bloomfield argues that it is essential to recognize there are different types of skeptics so that we can better tailor our communication strategies to engage with them on issues of the environment and climate change.
I can’t help seeing parallels to a religious impulse in modern hysteria’s like climate change (and covid). They are near complete foundation myths - systems of ethics, meaning, blasphemy, moral codes, invisible powers that must be appeased, natural punishment. Like modern humans forgot about God and put all those aspects on something else. Either “pay taxes and eat less meat to make the sky less angry” or “wear this garb and take this sacrament or god covid will make you sick”.
 
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