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From Max Blumenthal:
I found the debate to be a refreshingly honest spectacle that allowed the public to see the candidates as they truly were, both products of a gerontocratic governing class and decaying political system. A different format or moderator wouldn't have changed much between these two.
Corporate media pundits call the debate a "shitshow." They not only loathe Trump, they agonize over the erosion of American soft power as an Edward G. Robinson gangster caricature rants at a doddering, grandfatherly opponent and a world they're expected to dominate laughs.
Biden's record of gaffes and Trump's portrayal of him as a de facto cadaver set expectations so low, Trump had to provoke him into an embarrassing malfunction to gain ground outside his narrowing base. He failed. I don't see how the prevailing dynamics of the race were changed.
I found the debate to be a refreshingly honest spectacle that allowed the public to see the candidates as they truly were, both products of a gerontocratic governing class and decaying political system. A different format or moderator wouldn't have changed much between these two.
Corporate media pundits call the debate a "shitshow." They not only loathe Trump, they agonize over the erosion of American soft power as an Edward G. Robinson gangster caricature rants at a doddering, grandfatherly opponent and a world they're expected to dominate laughs.
Biden's record of gaffes and Trump's portrayal of him as a de facto cadaver set expectations so low, Trump had to provoke him into an embarrassing malfunction to gain ground outside his narrowing base. He failed. I don't see how the prevailing dynamics of the race were changed.
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On top of that, I had the impression there were moments when Joe was just citing memorised lines from his mind when he started to stare in front of him, sometimes for minutes on end, as he talked.
Read the last sentence of that transcript you posted. Now place it in context with that video the militias have been circulating for at least three months that I’ve posted here numerous times. If you still defend it/can’t figure out what it meant... your smarter then that man, so I have to ask what your motivation is unfortunately.
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But we don't want you stinkin' americans. 
nationalpost.com
Google searches for 'move to Canada' skyrocket during U.S. presidential debate
The searches hit their peak at around 10 p.m. Eastern time, right as the two candidates were locked in their grim battle
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He was.
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I thought i'd revisit Trump's comments from January.....10 months on. Voices** in the religious world: "the only thing that ever brings America together is a major crisis"
www.pbs.org
The only question that comes to my mind is, what kind of event is capable of uniting a country....unless it involves major loss of life?
**iam not Stone's biggest fan for reasons i can't detail now.
Trump says it will be hard to unify country without a 'major event'
President Donald Trump called for unity in an interview with broadcast journalists ahead of his State of the Union speech Tuesday night.
www.pbs.org
The only question that comes to my mind is, what kind of event is capable of uniting a country....unless it involves major loss of life?
**iam not Stone's biggest fan for reasons i can't detail now.
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war or asteroid or bothI thought i'd revisit Trump's comments from January.....10 months on. Voices** in the religious world: "the only thing that ever brings America together is a major crisis"
Trump says it will be hard to unify country without a 'major event'
President Donald Trump called for unity in an interview with broadcast journalists ahead of his State of the Union speech Tuesday night.
The only question that comes to my mind is, what kind of event is capable of uniting a country....unless it involves major loss of life?
**iam not Stone's biggest fan for reasons i can't detail now.
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While I believe that the election won’t happen and that there’ll be a blackout and a bunch of other things, I’ve been re-thinking the Transition Integrity Project(TIP) and their election scenarios. They’ve been so widely reported on in MSM that iam starting to question if any of their gamed scenarios are going to play out to a T.
Anyway, in warfare, an element of surprise often changes the tide of war. So iam thinking that there is going to be another surprise event. While I don’t believe that anything is going to happen to Trump or Pence, articles such as these are making me wonder if Biden is going to drop dead.
apnews.com
www.independent.co.uk
A Biden death, before the election, would be such a game changer. It also changes (slightly??) TIP’s scenarios. Some people have already voted and he is supposedly ahead in the polls. His death would certainly set off elements on both sides of the political spectrum. Would Democrat lawyers fight for a “Harris presidency” in the courts? Maybe this wasn’t a slip of the tongue afterall…
www.ibtimes.com
www.rt.com
And.....
www.justsecurity.org
Anyway, in warfare, an element of surprise often changes the tide of war. So iam thinking that there is going to be another surprise event. While I don’t believe that anything is going to happen to Trump or Pence, articles such as these are making me wonder if Biden is going to drop dead.
AP EXPLAINS: What happens if a candidate for president dies?
WASHINGTON (AP) — It's a month before Election Day and President Donald Trump is in the hospital, infected with a virus that has killed more than 209,000 Americans.
apnews.com
What exactly is the 25th Amendment and how does it work?
Very probably not, is the short answer
www.independent.co.uk
A Biden death, before the election, would be such a game changer. It also changes (slightly??) TIP’s scenarios. Some people have already voted and he is supposedly ahead in the polls. His death would certainly set off elements on both sides of the political spectrum. Would Democrat lawyers fight for a “Harris presidency” in the courts? Maybe this wasn’t a slip of the tongue afterall…
Kamala Harris' Gaffe During Virtual Roundtable Ignites Social Media Chatter
Harris' misstatement came during a virtual roundtable with small business owners in Arizona.
www.ibtimes.com
Wayne Dupree: Oops! Kamala’s ‘Harris Administration’ gaffe has revealed the Democrats’ true plans
The left-wing VP candidate might try to dismiss it as a slip of the tongue, but her comment shows what the real scheme is: that she replaces Joe Biden shortly after the election. And I see the hand of Hillary behind it all...
And.....
Trump Can’t Lawfully Use Armed Forces to Sway the Election: Understanding the Legal Boundaries
No matter how broad a president’s discretion on matters of national security, the executive does not have authority to interfere with an election. Our authors explain the constitutional and statutory limits.
www.justsecurity.org
Amazing that never even occurred to me....While I believe that the election won’t happen and that there’ll be a blackout and a bunch of other things, I’ve been re-thinking the Transition Integrity Project(TIP) and their election scenarios. They’ve been so widely reported on in MSM that iam starting to question if any of their gamed scenarios are going to play out to a T.
Anyway, in warfare, an element of surprise often changes the tide of war. So iam thinking that there is going to be another surprise event. While I don’t believe that anything is going to happen to Trump or Pence, articles such as these are making me wonder if Biden is going to drop dead.
AP EXPLAINS: What happens if a candidate for president dies?
WASHINGTON (AP) — It's a month before Election Day and President Donald Trump is in the hospital, infected with a virus that has killed more than 209,000 Americans.What exactly is the 25th Amendment and how does it work?
Very probably not, is the short answer
A Biden death, before the election, would be such a game changer. It also changes (slightly??) TIP’s scenarios. Some people have already voted and he is supposedly ahead in the polls. His death would certainly set off elements on both sides of the political spectrum. Would Democrat lawyers fight for a “Harris presidency” in the courts? Maybe this wasn’t a slip of the tongue afterall…
Kamala Harris' Gaffe During Virtual Roundtable Ignites Social Media Chatter
Harris' misstatement came during a virtual roundtable with small business owners in Arizona.Wayne Dupree: Oops! Kamala’s ‘Harris Administration’ gaffe has revealed the Democrats’ true plans
The left-wing VP candidate might try to dismiss it as a slip of the tongue, but her comment shows what the real scheme is: that she replaces Joe Biden shortly after the election. And I see the hand of Hillary behind it all...
And.....
Trump Can’t Lawfully Use Armed Forces to Sway the Election: Understanding the Legal Boundaries
No matter how broad a president’s discretion on matters of national security, the executive does not have authority to interfere with an election. Our authors explain the constitutional and statutory limits.
Makes sense
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I think it would end the Democrat’s chances of gaining the White House. A lot of people who are voting for Biden would not be so enthusiastic about casting their vote for a Harris administration (with God knows who as VP), even if that’s what we’re all expecting to happen with a year or two if it’s a Biden/Harris win. Biden’s death would put the nail in the coffin a Democratic win in November, because at least with Biden alive and running, people can pretend they’re actually voting for him.While I believe that the election won’t happen and that there’ll be a blackout and a bunch of other things, I’ve been re-thinking the Transition Integrity Project(TIP) and their election scenarios. They’ve been so widely reported on in MSM that iam starting to question if any of their gamed scenarios are going to play out to a T.
Anyway, in warfare, an element of surprise often changes the tide of war. So iam thinking that there is going to be another surprise event. While I don’t believe that anything is going to happen to Trump or Pence, articles such as these are making me wonder if Biden is going to drop dead.
AP EXPLAINS: What happens if a candidate for president dies?
WASHINGTON (AP) — It's a month before Election Day and President Donald Trump is in the hospital, infected with a virus that has killed more than 209,000 Americans.What exactly is the 25th Amendment and how does it work?
Very probably not, is the short answer
A Biden death, before the election, would be such a game changer. It also changes (slightly??) TIP’s scenarios. Some people have already voted and he is supposedly ahead in the polls. His death would certainly set off elements on both sides of the political spectrum. Would Democrat lawyers fight for a “Harris presidency” in the courts? Maybe this wasn’t a slip of the tongue afterall…
Kamala Harris' Gaffe During Virtual Roundtable Ignites Social Media Chatter
Harris' misstatement came during a virtual roundtable with small business owners in Arizona.Wayne Dupree: Oops! Kamala’s ‘Harris Administration’ gaffe has revealed the Democrats’ true plans
The left-wing VP candidate might try to dismiss it as a slip of the tongue, but her comment shows what the real scheme is: that she replaces Joe Biden shortly after the election. And I see the hand of Hillary behind it all...
And.....
Trump Can’t Lawfully Use Armed Forces to Sway the Election: Understanding the Legal Boundaries
No matter how broad a president’s discretion on matters of national security, the executive does not have authority to interfere with an election. Our authors explain the constitutional and statutory limits.
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“I want to see these beautiful young ladies dancing when they’re four years older, too.”
Can anyone else get away with saying and doing the kinds of things Biden says and does on a pretty regular basis?
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ive got to disagree here.
i think there are two voters: trump voters and anti-trump voters. people will vote for trump or ANYONE else besides trump, harris included.
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You make a good point but…. from one of the articles I posted
CAN POLITICAL PARTIES REPLACE A CANDIDATE WHO DIES?
Yes, but not this close to Election Day. Nearly 63 million ballots have already been sent to voters, with nearly 3 million votes already cast. The deadline for candidates to withdraw has passed in all but two states — South Carolina and Connecticut — and their deadlines are a few days away.
The date of the election is set by federal law — the Tuesday after the first Monday in November — which falls this year on Nov. 3. Only Congress can change the date of the election.
“It would be impossible to change ballots at this time without delaying the election and starting the voting process over again," said Richard Hasen, a law professor at the University of California–Irvine School of Law. “I don't think Congress is going to do that."
So if the ballots cannot be changed and Biden dies before or on election day, does Harris automatically take his place as flag bearer and haven't the people who already voted for Biden in effect voted for Harris?
It’s a gut feeling that another card is going to be played and it seems to me that this episode of Trump catching Covid (network news is saying he is a “super spreader”) is meant to segue us into that eventuality. Which also means that if Trump catching Covid was planned, the Biden's death was also long ago in the cards.
TBH, iam stopping myself from imagining the craziness that would erupt if something like this happens.
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I guess if dead people can vote Democrat then dead Democrats can run for president.
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I kind of agree but still think there are a good chunk of moderates/independents who would vote for Biden but not for Harris.
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why?
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I’m starting to expect this and Dems blaming universal mailing ballots. (And Russians of course)
