2018 French Revolution/Gilet Jaunes protest

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I know you don't like Capitalism as a whole but I think private property is something that should be kept...
Anarchists make a distinction between private property and personal property though. Personal property is personal things you use like houses, cars, clothes, computers and things like that... Private property is things that are privately owned and used to create capital and generate profits... it is the means of production, like a factory or a farm.

Personal property is fine but private property is seen as bad because it is owned by one person but used by multiple people... and the owner profits off of the work of others. In capitalism, a factory is owned by a single owner but there can be 30 people working there to produce a product. The factory owner is able to own and profit from the factory even though they do not work in it... and they also own the product of the worker’s labor. The owner receives the profit from the work of others and those workers do not profit or have any control. It’s an unjust hierarchy.

Factories would still exist in an anarchist society but instead of being considered private property, they would be collective property. The means of production would be owned and managed together by the people who use it... it cuts out the middle man of a private owner who exploits the workers. Collecitve ownership allows for decentralized control by the people themselves and it lets people to own the products of their own labor. It gives control back to the people and allows for democracy in the workplace. I think it’s a better system.
 
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Anarchists make a distinction between private property and personal property though. Personal property is personal things you use like houses, cars, clothes, computers and things like that... Private property is things that are privately owned and used to create capital... it is the means of production, like a factory or a farm.

Personal property is fine but private property is seen as bad because it is owned by one person but used by multiple people... and the owner profits off of the work of others. In capitalism, a factory is owned by a single owner but there can be 30 people working there to produce a product. The factory owner is able to own and profit from the factory even though they do not work in it... and they also own the product of the worker’s labor. The owner receives the profit from the work of others and those workers do not profit or have any control. It’s an unjust hierarchy.

Factories would still exist in an anarchist society but instead of being considered private property, they would be collective property. The means of production would be owned and managed together by the people who use it... it cuts out the middle man of a private owner who exploits the workers. Collecitve ownership allows for decentralized control by the people themselves and it lets people to own the products of their own labor. It gives control back to the people and allows for democracy in the workplace. I think it’s a better system.
Lol I won't argue with you there, as you have studied this way more than I did.
 

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The French Revolution was a Rothschild plot I don’t see this as anything different tbh
Just like the whole political fat left far right nonsense
Divide and conquer
Yeah, it COULD be done by the globalists so they can bring in martial law but still.. Something HAS to be done, we cant live like this, things went out of control for europe 20 years ago.
 

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Yeah, it COULD be done by the globalists so they can bring in martial law but still.. Something HAS to be done, we cant live like this, things went out of control for europe 20 years ago.
You may be right and I really hope you are, It’s hard not to be cynical though when you learn about the elite and how they have their hands in EVERYTHING and use everything to further the agenda
And you are right Europe does need to change, I miss the old Mother Europe
 

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You may be right and I really hope you are, It’s hard not to be cynical though when you learn about the elite and how they have their hands in EVERYTHING and use everything to further the agenda
And you are right Europe does need to change, I miss the old Mother Europe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. Remove one of their puppets and they place in the next.

I'll be doing my best in a protest this saturday though. We will be yellow vesting in my town. Finally I can show my hatred towards the illuminati. But as you're saying, it will be hard to win..Let's hope David Icke is right with his "If you all go together in this, you will win and they know this and are scared of that happening" I still wish there would be more of us protesting. So many that the elite would be shaking to their very core. It doesnt really matter if they bring in martial law by now because they will bring that in anyway sooner or later so it might as well be now. We HAVE to show this isnt acceptable!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION! :cool:
 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. Remove one of their puppets and they place in the next.

I'll be doing my best in a protest this saturday though. We will be yellow vesting in my town. Finally I can show my hatred towards the illuminati. But as you're saying, it will be hard to win..Let's hope David Icke is right with his "If you all go together in this, you will win and they know this and are scared of that happening" I still wish there would be more of us protesting. So many that the elite would be shaking to their very core. It doesnt really matter if they bring in martial law by now because they will bring that in anyway sooner or later so it might as well be now. We HAVE to show this isnt acceptable!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION! :cool:
Well good luck, I wish you all the best and be careful from what I’ve seen in France protests it can get ugly
 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. Remove one of their puppets and they place in the next.

I'll be doing my best in a protest this saturday though. We will be yellow vesting in my town. Finally I can show my hatred towards the illuminati. But as you're saying, it will be hard to win..Let's hope David Icke is right with his "If you all go together in this, you will win and they know this and are scared of that happening" I still wish there would be more of us protesting. So many that the elite would be shaking to their very core. It doesnt really matter if they bring in martial law by now because they will bring that in anyway sooner or later so it might as well be now. We HAVE to show this isnt acceptable!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION! :cool:
"It doesnt really matter if they bring in martial law by now because they will bring that in anyway sooner or later so it might as well be now. We HAVE to show this isnt acceptable!"
This.
 

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Theyre talking about declaring a "State of emergency" now to stop more from dying from the riots. *swallows hard* Are we looking at martial law?

Also, check this out: It's the MIDDLE class theyre bleeding out. Not the poor. The MIDDLE class cant even afford fukn light bulbs in their homes although working double jobs! Due to the new tax. And on top of that the rich got their tax erased.


I'm starting to think the elite doesnt want 500 millions left on this earth. They wanna kill everybody. This goes hand in hand with the bible aswell saying God interfered bc if he didnt noone would survive. Theyve completely lost it. This is madness on a new level, beyond genocide..Something mankind has never seen before.
 
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Theyre talking about declaring a "State of emergency" now to stop more from dying from the riots. *swallows hard* Are we looking at martial law?

Also, check this out: It's the MIDDLE class theyre bleeding out. Not the poor. The MIDDLE class cant even afford fukn light bulbs in their homes although working double jobs! Due to the new tax. And on top of that the rich got their tax erased.


I'm starting to think the elite doesnt want 500 millions left on this earth. They wanna kill everybody. This goes hand in hand with the bible aswell saying God interfered bc if he didnt noone would survive. Theyve completely lost it. This is madness on a new level, beyond genocide..Something mankind has never seen before.
And so it begins......
 

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The French Revolution was a Rothschild plot
Sources?
If every country protests, the globalists will have to step the fuck down. Its just a matter of who's more persistant; them or us? And if we stop working, society will stop running and then how will they get their luxurious foods and their much needed staff?

They need us - We dont need them.
If it would be that easy ... if it gets really rough, I mean if the people in charge are seriously threatened, then emergency rule comes into force and the military is on the streets. If people get killed, shit is on fire and people will stay at home. Only the real idealists will give their life for change. And maybe not even them. So it's not like "okay, let's go protesting and everything will be fine".

I'm not against you, I'm with you. But let's see this rational. No real revolution without blood. And if people are successful, what next or who's next?

And if the whole system/society is on pause mode, guess who will be the first starving? The rich? People in power? No. YOU will be the one going to the next supermarket, noting that all the food and water is gone because rioting mobs are around every corner. And there will be no supplies cause people aren't working. So it's anarchy, survival of the fittest or, alternatively, police/military state.

So, the rich, they will sit down and relax in front of their fireplace in their villa somewhere in a hidden place in the woods/mountains or a lonely island, watching everything on tv like a game show. Relaxed because they know they have food and water for 1-2 years in their basement, what do you got?

This is how I think about all this "revolution" "stuff". You wanna make a change, you have to BE the change. Become a politician. But honestly, I doubt people with ideals will ever participate seriously in this globalized, modern system.
And finally: power corrupts.

To me, the only way to make a change in the first place, again, is to go to your bank, draw all your money you put in "the system" and then let's see what happens. If all people in the world would do this on the same day, you have your revolution.
 

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My second thought on this whole yellow vests-movement: isn't it practical that everyone joining the movement is running around with a bright shining yellow vest to find in nearly every trunk?
 

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Theyre talking about declaring a "State of emergency" now to stop more from dying from the riots. *swallows hard* Are we looking at martial law?

Also, check this out: It's the MIDDLE class theyre bleeding out. Not the poor. The MIDDLE class cant even afford fukn light bulbs in their homes although working double jobs! Due to the new tax. And on top of that the rich got their tax erased.


I'm starting to think the elite doesnt want 500 millions left on this earth. They wanna kill everybody. This goes hand in hand with the bible aswell saying God interfered bc if he didnt noone would survive. Theyve completely lost it. This is madness on a new level, beyond genocide..Something mankind has never seen before.
"Theyve completely lost it. This is madness on a new level, beyond genocide..Something mankind has never seen before."
Indeed. This is highlighted to me via Israels Samson Doctrine military strategy, but they aint they only players in the roulette of apocalypse. But God almighty still owns the Big Casino, so they are playing a fools gamble.......
 

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The man in this video says to expect something to happen on December 22, and it might be really bad for the protesters. He predicted the December 11th "false flag shooting" so he might be onto something here. Sorry for those who don't understand french (you can still turn on the english subtitles in the video settings though), just putting this here in case.

 

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My second thought on this whole yellow vests-movement: isn't it practical that everyone joining the movement is running around with a bright shining yellow vest to find in nearly every trunk?
The bright yellow vests do make them more easily identifiable, it sort of makes them an easy target. I don’t know if it’s more practical... it seems kind of dangerous. But I think it’s supposed to be a symbolic representation of working class people.
 

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Yellow Vest protests in Canada

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https://www.thepostmillennial.com/yellow-vest-protests-in-canada-mirror-frances-anti-government-dissent/

Is it the beginning of a worldwide revolution?
Maybe not but i'm happy to see more countries joining the movement and refusing their enslavement.

Theyre talking about declaring a "State of emergency" now to stop more from dying from the riots. *swallows hard* Are we looking at martial law?

Also, check this out: It's the MIDDLE class theyre bleeding out. Not the poor. The MIDDLE class cant even afford fukn light bulbs in their homes although working double jobs! Due to the new tax. And on top of that the rich got their tax erased.


I'm starting to think the elite doesnt want 500 millions left on this earth. They wanna kill everybody. This goes hand in hand with the bible aswell saying God interfered bc if he didnt noone would survive. Theyve completely lost it. This is madness on a new level, beyond genocide..Something mankind has never seen before.
Guess what ? our government said that we should suspend all the protests because of terrorist threats.

These guys aren't ashamed, we have potentially 20 000 radicalized islamists identified in the 'S file' who can threaten French citizens daily and the power do absolutely nothing against them but they have arrested 2000 protesters last saturday and gased journalists without any charges and they believe we will stop after that?

Of course we won't stop but M.Macron now tries to divide us as he promised wage raise that will benefits to nobody except for minimum wage workers because, as usual, the middle class is left behind.

This president continues to lie as he clearly said that he do care for us and he will do everything to appease us but at the same time he won't restore the solidarity tax on wealth.
Indeed he protects the riches, the GAFAs and companies in spite of us. Good grief what a shameless liar.

You know what's great? Medias says that yellows vesters are into conspiracy theories because of tuesday's gunman.
We said it was strange that a gunman waited tuesday in a small city of eastern France to kill 3 people when he could perpetrate a mass murder last week-end with all the protests that occured in France.

In France , when you're accused of conspiracy theory it's almost a thought crime because people assume that you're a flat earther, you're anti-science ect.
Some people here already distanced themselves from the movement saying "protesters are a bunch of low IQs who propagates fakes news."

We're witnessing this good ol' divide and conquer psy op right in front of us by the medias and our governement.

But you can trust me when I say that this movement isn't going to stop soon until Macron meet protesters demands.
People are no longer fighting for fuel taxes, they are fighting for the future of their children some interviewee cried in medias while they tried to explain their situation. The pain is real.

I'm afraid some protesters will confront police to invest the Elysee again and since we are in terror alert because of that gunman, police will likely arrest protesters whenever they want without justifications.
Or even use this as a last resort :

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7948809/french-riot-police-secret-weapon-liquid-protesters/

I guess we live in dictature already, they are no longer pretending us people should expect anything from this 'democracy'.

What happened to my country?
 
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So you're saying they should just give up cuz its never gonna get better? Good God, who's side are you ON?! Sitting down, giving up changes absolutely NOTHING! By this at least they have a chance. And besides more countries are joining in on them. We now have sweden, Canada, Netherlands and Belgium and its still spreading. Its like David Icke says: "HUMAN RACE- GET OFF YOUR KNEES!" If every country protests, the globalists will have to step the fuck down. Its just a matter of who's more persistant; them or us? And if we stop working, society will stop running and then how will they get their luxurious foods and their much needed staff?

They need us - We dont need them.

Europe have no guns, the elite do...they have technology that is so far advanced including directed energy weapons. Martial law will be implemented if things get out of control (like they want it to) and we will be in a 1984 type of world.

I'm afraid its too late.
 

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Thanks everyone for your support, I really appreciate it.

The working class in France is paying the price of 40 years of chaotic political choices that lead us to sacrifice our country for a progressive agenda of mass immigration. This agenda was supported by both the left and the right because yes, republicans in France where somehow as, if not more, Democrat than most right wings in Europe.

Jacques Chirac did the right thing when he refused to attack Afghanistan but M. Sarkozy accepted to attack Lybia and right there, the gates of chaos in Europe were opened.
We have imported terrorists and criminals in our country but our government still don't know how to manage it because we have so many immigrants here and France is the sole country where racial or religious statistics are forbidden. Plain and simple

But things went worse when we voted democrats 5 years ago, many people started to agree with far left ideas while we couldn't talk about anything anymore.

It became taboo to talk about skin colors, religions and more accurately French Arabic to a point that Arabs meant muslims in the medias.

People were so disappointed to see Marine Le Pen (far right) losing last elections that many Frenchies don't even believe in politics anymore.

More than 100 years of Laicite (or secularism) in France created a high percentage of persons who don't believe in anything except in mere humans.

When people vote for someone, you can't reason them because politics is a sort of religion in their head that's why M. Macron was voted with a bogus program that was clearly anti-france because "we need to protect our democracy, our republican model and our humanistic values against those who wish a civil war in France like the far right" they said.

French medias believe that current crisis will benefit the far right when in fact, it will benefit to nobody if this revolution happens because they don't understand that people are sick and tired of politics and they don't want to be considered as second class citizens anymore.
A growing number of people are opening their eyes about M.Macron, a man who attacked Syria for no apparent reasons when we have nothing to win in that except paving the way for arabic antisemitism in France.

I have in mind that my country is the home of freemasonry and after all, their motto is 'ordo ab chaos'.

But my country is also the place where Christians never loses faith and courage against adversity, I don't forget that the dawn come after the darkest hours of the night.
Stay safe out there french dude. Keep us updated when you can.
Sounds like the US as far as democratic culture is concerned.
 

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Say no to the globalist agenda. The elites want us all under one easy to rule dictatorship. Damn jagoffs
 
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