yiksmes
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Not everyone, i meant his disciples. I quoted the verse, expressed my view and asked a question. - I was raised by Russian orthodox belief (my mother and grandmother) and as i understood the belief is that Jesus was the son of god and it's not clear because some believe Jesus said he the son of god and continued that we are sons of god too. Unfortunately the only talks i had with my jewish side about god was me asking "Why?" when they said that they don't believe in god. (Not saying jews don't believe in god, just turned out to be like that.) Now that i think about it, it all actually started from me questioning them about the circumcision because Russian Orthodox are not circumcised. - Sorry if TMI..Yup
And the suggestion of "BrotherGod" because everyone is a god.. -.-
From reading and watching debates online on this subject, to me Jesus being creator's messenger makes the biggest sense.
I am still open to change my mind, when watching/listening/reading many different people who know the bible having a debate on this subject, i don't reject their view usually as soon as the debater who is debating anti Jesus god/trinity rejects them. I try to put myself in their shoes and ponder first. - But with all the evidence i am still not convinced.
Which brings me back to your quote:
If i am insulting anybody's intelligence, it is only my own. I am sorry but i dont feel guilty to be unintelligent especially if somebody corrects me and i learn something from them.It is nicer here when we don't insult each other's intelligence.
If i had the intention to insult someone's intelligence, it would be straight up and direct.
I'm no angel myself but watching how most people insult each other and their intelligence here on this forum is actually very inspirational,
It's an every time or day example why we shouldn't scoop to that low level and get beaten by experience. There's not fruit in that.
It's never about who's right or wrong, it's about being on a right path and that is my journey.
Every time i was in trouble and asked god for help, i always had my prayers answered when i was a kid. This is no joke, if Jesus is a messenger and i believe he is god then for me that is a big offense to god from me. And if he is god and i believe that he is a messenger then it's the same offense from me again. And i feel the same way about rejecting fully Koran, Torah and what Jesus taught. It's not about yous, its about not offending god. What if these books really are word of god, not believing is one thing but rejecting and insulting the whole religion that have strong possibilities to be a message from god. - I don't want to betray god.
Different books, contradictions? Corruption and allowance for it to happen? Sounds like a wise life test. Probably dumb to say but sounds like a psychoanalysis check of your faith and character from god.
- It would be too easy and pointless life if we all just had this truth on silver platter, we probably wouldn't even know what a question is..
The only creation that we know of that is more deceitful than a human being is a creation that lives, is spiritual and has the ability to manipulate us to do evil and deceitful deeds and actually teaches some of us to have a ph.d in lies.
If i say you Christians are all delusional or if i say that all you Muslims are terrorists and if i am convinced that the creator didn't write your book.
That doesn't mean that i was holding the candle while the creator was writing my book. None of us was there.
If you love god than you would be ashamed to say things like that because what if that book is also a word of your god to another time and place or whatever.. - What if?