“Peace to Prosperity”?

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Trump's peace team is heading back to Israel next week

A senior US administration official confirmed to The Jerusalem Post on Sunday that US envoys Jared Kushner, Jason Greenblatt, Brian Hook and Avi Berkowitz will travel to the region next week, in an attempt to keep the momentum of the Economic Plan.

The four will visit Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia,Qatar and the UAE during the first week of August.

According to the official, the goal of the visit is to finalize the economic component of the peace plan, and to discuss possible resources to fund the administration's vision.

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The deal of the century demands that the Gazans/ New Palestine not have a standing army.

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^^^The people we are supposed to trust to have the Palestinians best interests at heart. Whispering in Pompeo's ear is the Israeli ambassador who i will henceforth call Dangerous Dermer. Also widely known as Bibi's brain.

Dermer: “the principle of two states for two peoples is a childish solution to a complicated problem.”
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Red, i will move our other conversation to another thread.
 





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Iran warns of 'disastrous results' if Israel involved in US-led Gulf operation

Any Israeli involvement in the US-led naval operation into the Strait of Hormuz would have “disastrous consequences" for the region, the Iranian Defense Ministry warned Thursday.

In a discussion with defense officials from Qatar, Kuwait, and Oman, Defense Minister Amir Hatami reportedly added that the "military coalition that America is seeking to form with the excuse of securing maritime transport will only increase insecurity in the region."

The warning comes as Washington ramps up pressure on the Islamic republic following a string of incidents that have stirred tensions in the Gulf, including Tehran's capture of a UK oil tanker last month and the downing of a US drone over the Strait of Hormuz earlier in the summer.

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Iran warns of 'disastrous results' if Israel involved in US-led Gulf operation

Any Israeli involvement in the US-led naval operation into the Strait of Hormuz would have “disastrous consequences" for the region, the Iranian Defense Ministry warned Thursday.

In a discussion with defense officials from Qatar, Kuwait, and Oman, Defense Minister Amir Hatami reportedly added that the "military coalition that America is seeking to form with the excuse of securing maritime transport will only increase insecurity in the region."

The warning comes as Washington ramps up pressure on the Islamic republic following a string of incidents that have stirred tensions in the Gulf, including Tehran's capture of a UK oil tanker last month and the downing of a US drone over the Strait of Hormuz earlier in the summer.

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Iam not one to hypocritically call out news sources or persist with the double standard (you know, the whole: “it’s okay when I do it but it’s wrong when you do it”), its not my intent here but this is a friendly reminder on who owns Israel Hayom and how iam supposed to digest the contents of the article. Iam simply copy-pasting Serveto’s post. The owner of the paper, in his own words....

Also, it’s the same paper that leaked the “Deal of the Century” for reasons yet unknown. There’s been considerable speculation surrounding the intent of the leak.
 





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Iam not one to hypocritically call out news sources or persist with the double standard (you know, the whole: “it’s okay when I do it but it’s wrong when you do it”), its not my intent here but this is a friendly reminder on who owns Israel Hayom and how iam supposed to digest the contents of the article. Iam simply copy-pasting Serveto’s post. The owner of the paper, in his own words....



Also, it’s the same paper that leaked the “Deal of the Century” for reasons yet unknown. There’s been considerable speculation surrounding the intent of the leak.
I think that there are a lot of games being played in all directions. Nobody is unbiased in this negotiation! I am trying to go with The advice of Polonius and “give many thine ear and few thy tongue”...

Eventually, the “truth will out...”
 





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PA President Abbas: ‘Millions Of Fighters’ Will Take Over Jerusalem

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas threatened this week that "million of fighters" would swarm Jerusalem and topple the Jewish state's capital city, warning that "no matter how many houses and how many settlements they declare that they [plan to build] here and there—they shall all be destroyed."

Abbas, in an Arabic language speech at Jalazone Refugee Camp near Ramallah that was heavy with threats of destruction, doubled down on the Palestinian government's policy of using public money to pay convicted terrorists and their families, telling his audience, "We will not accept their designation of our martyrs as terrorists. Our martyrs are the martyrs of the homeland."

Abbas went on to rally those in attendance to swarm the city of Jerusalem and destroy all Jewish people living there. His remarks are the clearest sign to date that the leader has no interest in playing a role in a revamped peace process spearheaded by President Donald Trump's White House.

"To Jerusalem we march, martyrs by the millions!" he was quoted as saying, according to a translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, a media watchdog site.

"We shall enter Jerusalem—millions of fighters! We shall enter it! All of us, the entire Palestinian people, the entire Arab nation, the Islamic nation, and the Christian nation," Abbas said. "They shall all enter Jerusalem."
 





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Nasrallah: We are prepared to enter 'occupied Palestine'

The leader of the Lebanese-based terror group Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, claimed over the weekend that his organization was in possession of a large amount of military intelligence on Israel and warned that his forces were prepared to enter "occupied Palestine" at any time.

"[We] are threatening them and we will enter occupied Palestine," Nasrallah was quoted by an Arabic-language daily on Friday.

"We have abundant information, unprecedented in fact, about all events and developments occurring on the enemy side, using both public and secretive measures," Nasrallah continued.

"We have very good intelligence and very good oversight," he added.

In other news...

 





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Can Jared’s millennial ‘mini-me’ bring peace to the Middle East?

"Before his promotion this week to a leading role in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, 30-year-old Avi Berkowitz filled a number of odd jobs in the West Wing. They have included shepherding distinguished visitors — the likes of Kim Kardashian, Jeff Bezos, Sheldon Adelson — around the White House, and hanging onto Jared Kushner’s phone while Kushner is in meetings, a duty that sometimes had Berkowitz responding to messages on his boss’ behalf..."

“...He is in the service of Jared, not Trump,” this person said. “Some people are scratching their heads to watch this guy go from keeping Jared’s schedule and secrets to brokering peace in the Middle East. It’s a big leap...”

"..This spring, when Netanyahu found himself unable to assemble a governing coalition, Dershowitz said Berkowitz sought his advice in follow-up phone calls, as the administration weighed delaying the plan’s release in response to Israel’s political turmoil..."

"...Dennis Ross, who served as Bill Clinton’s Middle East envoy, interpreted Greenblatt’s departure as a sign that the Trump administration does not expect its forthcoming peace plan -- which is set to be released at some unspecified point after Israel’s Sept. 17 elections — to lead even to follow-up negotiations."
 





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From a completely non religious perspective it appears to me that the KJV is an instruction manual for psycopaths. Just from the text quoted in this video it does nothing but promote death and destruction.

People who get indoctrinated by this no longer have control of their own minds, they think that they do, but they don't.
As in 2 Peter 3 (KJV ;-)

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 





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PA President Abbas: ‘Millions Of Fighters’ Will Take Over Jerusalem

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas threatened this week that "million of fighters" would swarm Jerusalem and topple the Jewish state's capital city, warning that "no matter how many houses and how many settlements they declare that they [plan to build] here and there—they shall all be destroyed."

Abbas, in an Arabic language speech at Jalazone Refugee Camp near Ramallah that was heavy with threats of destruction, doubled down on the Palestinian government's policy of using public money to pay convicted terrorists and their families, telling his audience, "We will not accept their designation of our martyrs as terrorists. Our martyrs are the martyrs of the homeland."

Abbas went on to rally those in attendance to swarm the city of Jerusalem and destroy all Jewish people living there. His remarks are the clearest sign to date that the leader has no interest in playing a role in a revamped peace process spearheaded by President Donald Trump's White House.

"To Jerusalem we march, martyrs by the millions!" he was quoted as saying, according to a translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, a media watchdog site.

"We shall enter Jerusalem—millions of fighters! We shall enter it! All of us, the entire Palestinian people, the entire Arab nation, the Islamic nation, and the Christian nation," Abbas said. "They shall all enter Jerusalem."
Ezekiel 38 anyone?
 





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@Red Sky at Morning These words mean nothing to me. I find it very tedious when people just cut and paste bible text as some type of response to quite a simple statement.

I would have thought somebody with your intellect and literary ability would have an opinion of their own....hasn't your response just proves my point perfectly?
 





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@Red Sky at Morning These words mean nothing to me. I find it very tedious when people just cut and paste bible text as some type of response to quite a simple statement.

I would have thought somebody with your intellect and literary ability would have an opinion of their own....hasn't your response just proves my point perfectly?
The thing is @Awoken2 there is no other way to present it. You appear to “scoff” at anyone who believes the Bible to be reliable, or the KJV being the best preserved Bible in English. I could go to great lengths to try to help you realise that both propositions have some merit. If that’s something you are interested in engaging with, I have all the time in the world (while I’m here) to talk it through with you. On the other hand, if you are a true “scoffer”, then any such discussion will be of no interest to you. Up to you...
 





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The thing is @Awoken2 there is no other way to present it.
It doesn't need presenting. If somebody wants to read it they will go and read it.


You appear to “scoff” at anyone who believes the Bible to be reliable, or the KJV being the best preserved Bible in English.
Reliable?....what for exactly?.....division?....hatred?.....death?... destruction?.....falling stars?....tidal waves?.... blah de blah

. I could go to great lengths to try to help you realise that both propositions have some merit.
Thanks but I'm fine. I don't need your help to help me realise anything. Did you not watch the video that @DavidSon posted? I see psycopaths....what do you see?
 





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I see psycopaths....what do you see?
I see people trying to justify their egotism with old scriptures while they violates most (I think all) their mosaic laws concerning strangers.
Pharisees back then or talmudic jews today there is nothing new under the sun.

Ps: I think it is a biased video though because I doubt that some zealots here or other psychopaths there represents them all.
 





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I see people trying to justify their egotism with old scriptures while they violates most (I think all) their mosaic laws concerning strangers.
Pharisees back then or talmudic jews today there is nothing new under the sun.

Ps: I think it is a biased video though because I doubt that some zealots here or other psychopaths there represents them all.
This. I'm sure that's the message Green is trying to relay, and I agree with his conclusion.

The reason that "peace" was never a real option is because (some %) of their religious leadership literally believe that the Palestinians are Philistines, that God decreed them the land 3500 years ago, etc. etc. The Old Testament might be a source of wonder and study for someone like me, but interpreting these tales into modern political terms is some scary, evil stuff.

I think it's outrageous that anyone in 2019 would hold this historical narrative as a political compass. If anything it's surprising the liberal/secular majority of Judaism isn't calling for some type of reparations to make amends for the campaign against the former inhabitants of Canaan. :D

The video isn't biased. These are facts about an extremist arm of their culture, CHABAD, who are obviously influential. Believe it or not, some have said that weirdo-boy Kushner is possibly their Messiah.
 





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