Do you think God knew he would rebel I've heard people say that God did not know Satan would rebel. Which I don't agree with personally.Surely the creation and fall of lucifer has got to be worth considering in this context. Did God make him to be an enemy, or did he have free will?
A Lament over the King of Tyre
11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
You decline Gods call to mercy and repentance. You wont be able to tell him he did nothing or that there is nothing you can do about it. You may not like the terms, but just like you were brought into the world you have no say in the matter.God is the father of narcissism, megalomaniacism, egoism no wonder he is driven by it and the devil was inspired by God's personalitys. Yet! With so much power the devil still rebelled, its a shame we are all willed in God's will and there is nothing we cant do about it.
There is a whole school of speculation which asks questions like “could God create a rock so big He couldn’t lift it” etc…Do you think God knew he would rebel I've heard people say that God did not know Satan would rebel. Which I don't agree with personally.
Bull shit, it still doesnt make any sense.@voj
I don’t know if you have any kids but I think we are given a lot of insight through them.
I remember feeling overwhelmed after we had two of them and going to a talk on parenting. The speaker said something I still remember years later:
“Don’t take all the credit, don’t take all the blame”
Both my kids arrived “created” by me and my wife, but entirely their own people. We knew them so well we could often predict what they might do in certain circumstances, but we would have no real influence to “make” them say or do certain things (often with a Muslim or alarming results).
God reveals Himself as “Father” for many reasons, but I think one is that we are given our own lives, choices and families to help illustrate as we go through life just what a father means.
Perhaps the most poignant image of our state is the story of the “Prodigal Son” whose father allows his young, wayward son to choose a life that will bring him sorrow, but welcomes him back with open arms if he changes his mind and chooses to return?
Lucifer aka Satan who was once a high ranking angel. When the great plan was being prepared Lucifer wanted the glory and promised to bring all of God's children back . This is a wicked principal , because it does not allow for choice or free will. Lucifer would force all to return.